Can A PRS Out Les Paul ....A Les Paul?
Вставка
- Опубліковано 14 лип 2019
- ►►Get My Free Fretboard Decoder Course! - goo.gl/vw6My6
►Tabs are HERE -
►►Guitar Lesson Packs HERE goo.gl/eNE5cc
►Find My Music HERE - urlzs.com/H88hx
►become A Member HERE goo.gl/euQnRb
►But Can You Play This?► goo.gl/KwBaZq
►Guitar Lesson Packs HERE goo.gl/eNE5cc
►►Guitar Collection Video - goo.gl/nDJcNk
►► Amp Collection Video - goo.gl/Y8vzo5
►► Studio Tour Video - goo.gl/PHmqtU
►SUBSCRIBE
ua-cam.com/channels/fev.html...
►SKYPE LESSONS
rbaker_lessons@yahoo.com
►OFFICIAL WEBSITE (TABS!!)
robertbakerguitar.com
►Business Inquiries
rbaker_lessons@yahoo.com
FOLLOW ME ON
Facebook RobertBakerGuitar
Twitter rguitar5150
Instagram / robertbakerguitar
PROUD USER OF
Acacia Guitars
www.acaciaguitars.com/
REVV Amps
revvamplification.com/
Dragon's Heart Guitar Picks.
www.dragonsheartguitarpicks.com/
ClearTone Strings
www.cleartonestrings.com
Hosa Edge Cables
hosatech.com/product/cgk-000/
in my experience a PRS is always a lil more "hifi" sounding and a different feel, doesn't sound to me like fender or gibson but different in subtle ways
it does have a lil more clarity but people who want the lespaul want the specific character, the people who want the PRS want the hifi clarity
just my observations and opinions
When I got Les Paul I thought it was the best. When I first played a PRS, I knew that it was for me. They both sound great. I love the feel and versatility of the PRS better.
Les Paul sounds like butter and has a thicker sound. That is a really great sounding Les Paul! I think the PRS sounds a lot thinner. I believe this is directly due to the scale length. a better comparison would be the PRS 594, due to being closer to the Les Paul scale. Great Playing!
A CE24 is one of the PRS models that is going to be furthest from a LP. Bolt on maple neck and 24 frets and a trem make a huge difference. I used to own a CE24 and other than both sounding like guitars with humbuckers, they're completely different.
The PRS definitely does. You better just sent that LP to me. I don't own a PRS so no one will be able to tell. They both sound great. Seriously though: Play the one you love. Its that simple.
I now wonder if you can do the opposite: A Les Paul out PRSing a PRS, but that just seems ridiculous! This was an interesting comparison of imo the two most popular guitars amongst the community! Awesome work man
Is it just me or does the Les Paul have a little more bass?
Sounds like a louder setting on amp.
But your probably right.
Not just you. That's the main difference I hear too.
Lp is chunkier, probably because of the thicker body, and, I’m guessing, heavier weight.
More mids and roled of treble
I agree.. And for my ears the tone on the LP is mo betta..... But that's just my opinion... And my ears are a little on the old side.
The PRS was brighter in the mids and high end to my ears.
Yup, that's what I heard
So the humbuckers in the Les Paul sound similar to the humbuckers in the PRS, and vice versa. So basically, humbuckers sound like humbuckers. Basically.
DemonGemini the Gibson’s sound better
@@PainterDans In your opinion, but others might disagree.
No.
@@lueyteledeluxe7457 And what are you? Some kind of authority on all people's preferences? Get lost, troll.
@@demongeminix lol, you're the troll. Way to oversimplify 40+ years of Humbucker history.
Love the sounds of both! That LP is very Jimmy Page-esque sounding in the middle position.
i went instantly to listen some led zep after that lol
Can a PRS out Tele a Tele? My co-worker swears that his coil spilt PRS neck pickup gets him real close.
Horacio Garcia mine does. Ebony SE hollow body 22 . Coil split bridge only I can make it scream like a baby. Neck pickup clean tone rolled off... Wes Montgomery heaven.
As a Les Paul lover I have to say I did not hear enough of a difference to make it that noticeable. I think the Les Paul has more power when you first start playing it. It seemed on all the example the LP started out with more aggression but that could be your playing style. You have said on other videos that your LP makes you dig in more so that could be why? The neck on the LP I think I liked more but I agree that the middle on the PRS did have more twang, but I don't like twang so I would go with the LP lol. So many guitars people think are one only to find out the artist used something else when recording music - Page and Whole Lotta love as one huge example! Many people think Page is using number 1 but the majority opinion is that he in fact recorded that using a Tele. I did read an article where someone who claims to have been in the studio that day says Page actually used his Black Les Paul for that song. Others say Page did not acquire that Black LP until AFTER the song was recorded and released - BUT regardless of whether he used a LP or a Tele the REAL point is this - No one can really tell!! Therefore, it's not that obvious!!
To me a PRS always seems like a REALLY good hot rodded Les Paul JR which is why I think I’ve always loved them
In a live mix, humbucker guitars will sound like humbuckers, single-coils will sound like single-coils, and a Tele on the bridge pickup will sound like a Tele.
Both are amazing!!
i'll just put out there that one stays in tune consistently, and one doesn't
Sean Zetterlund my CE-24 has not stayed in tune at my outdoor gigs this summer. Frustrating. I brought it to my local PRS dealer and they told me why. Surprising and frustrating.
I own 3 Les Pauls,...A 1998 Standard Tobacco Burst , a 2002 Flammed Cherry Standard and a 1997 Ebony Custom.
I also own a cheap 2018 Epiphone Les Paul 100.
I had a little trouble out of the Custom until I opened the nut saddles a little bit shortly after I first bought it years ago and It has stayed in tune really well and so do the other 2 and so does the Epiphone...Zero tuning stability problems out of any of them and I was and I am a frequent string bender.
Robert has also mentioned before that his Les Paul stays in tune great.
I've obviously heard this "out of tune" Les Paul complaint before and I'm not discounting anyone's experiences,... but my own experience is really the opposite.
I have a PRS that has developed the tick that the wound strings don't stay in tune well, while the plain ones do.
@@stricknine8623 I agree, I have two LP studios, LP Traditional and an Epiphone custom. To compare I also have A PRS SE 245, an S2 Standard and an S2 Singlecut. If anyone is claiming that the PRS guitars hold tuning better than a LP, they are brainwashed by the internet. My S2 standard with a trem holds tuning better than my other PRS guitars. My LPs hold tuning as good or better than my best PRS. Also have a Fender strat which is the worst of them all. If you have a non-locking nut, make sure your nut is cut right and use lubrication.
My R9 is amazingly stable. It can sit for a week and still be in tune. Might be the thick neck. So are my Epiphone LP and SG. Pick both up and start playing. Never have tuning issues over hours of playing. My two Strats on the other hand... Blows that stereotype out of the water.
To my ears the LP sounds better. Just a fuller, more balanced and enjoyable tone.
That said it's pretty close, and there's no real-world situation where you're going to play something for your audience twice with different instruments....so nobody is going to complain about your guitar choice of one over the other. When they're this close, i'd go with the option that's the higher quality instrument. Right now i'd say generally speaking PRS makes higher quality instruments than Gibson.
Folks live in a make believe guitar world...If you played both these guitars in a bar with clanging beer glasses and loud drunks who were were more than 20 ' from the amp you'd realize that you'd have been better off worrying over which guitar matches your shoes than which one sounds this way or that....do any of these folks play anywhere other than their bedroom?
I love Gibson but after play a prs McCarty, I have to say prs quality is second to none...it’s absolutely amazing. My heart says Gibson but my brain says prs
@@rustyshackleford9557 Exactly and how is this even a fair test when they have different pickups? People want to hear what they want to hear it’s unbelievable
I like um both! and this video was on point son!
PRS headstock doesn't fall off. A McCarty would be much closer in tone, though. Nothing can exactly replicate or replace a Gibson, especially a vintage one; but unless your prepared to put up with its idiosyncrasies, there are other more practical (and cheaper) guitars out there.
Came to say the same thing
@Underground Frenchy I know. It's a joke...
Underground Frenchy The design is more prone to snapping. But this Les Paul Km that Robert has, had a volute which helps. Tbh if your headstock snaps off cleanly, it’s not too big of a deal. Some c clamps and hide glue fixes it real good. Many musicians claim that their LP’s sounded better after they fixed their headstock.
@@peepongdingdong9208 Is that really how far some people will go to defend their precious LP. I don't want a guitar that I need to snap in half and glue back together to enjoy the tone more lol. Gluing is the factories job. I'd rather buy an Ibanez I can throw across my basement and have it stay in tune. (Not that I would, I saw my friend do it to his)
@@joeyguitar2056 I really don't believe you understood what he was saying. I think that people would "go that far" to protect a guitar they paid thousands of dollars for, if you wouldn't, you're an idiot. He wasn't saying that they purposefully broke their Les Paul guitars to make them sound better, which is what you seem to be inferring. Due to the angle of the headstock, the Les Paul, especially Gibson's Les Paul, is prone to breakage. In the end, both guitars are nice, and it's up to personal preference which one is better. However, nobody is doing something so utterly ridiculous as breaking their guitars to get better tone.
If you want to hear a PRS out Les Paul a Les Paul, try a McCarty 594. That’s the model that’s trying to accomplish that. Same scale length and low output pickups will make a huge difference.
Hey Robert- Love Macho Man shirt and the PRS.
Of all the UA-cam guys I think you have the most distinct sound. Doesn’t matter what your playing I could pick your sound out of everyone else. 👍👌
If you play with the tone knob on the PRS you'll get closer. If you dime the tone on the PRS you get the full spank of the bolt on Maple neck combo.
Thanks. I've had an interest in prs for some time. Currently I have a les paul.
A PRS Custom 24 won't replace a LP - not just because it has more frets and a trem, its also down to the spacing between the bridge and neck Pick-Ups which are closer together on a Custom 24 which changes the tone, makes it a bit brighter.
If you wanted to get closer, the custom 22 is better, the McCarty is even closer and if you want a very vintage Les Paul like tone, the 594 is closer again....
There is just something so special about a les Paul. And the PRS to me has its own unique sound.
Have both. Love both.
With the right pickups it can. I have a 24 with 57/08 bridge and 57/09 neck and it would have been closer than your ce24 which is brighter, I’m sure if you rolled off some treble say less than quarter of a turn it would fatten up your prs
It sounds incredible.
I feel like the prs has more Ibanez-esque tonal quality.
yeah, same here
Agree
@Bartley hey that's why they make more than one guitar brand my guy. I love them, personally.
Bartley either you are an elitist or a gullible idiot who thinks Les Pauls are the pinnacle of craftsmanship 😂
@Bartley If John Schofield, Lee Ritenour, George Benson and Satriani and Vai and Timmons and P. Gilbert and....etc...etc...use em....hmmmmm I'd say Ibanez is a success story that NEVER went bankrupt.
In truth though only about 3% of ALL guitar owners could pull off even the most simple gig so it might not even matter if this guitar or that is junk. Guitars are mostly like a telescope for a blind guy to hang on the wall and argue over and watch YT vids about.
I closed my eyes during your demo...I picked the PRS every time. The PRS has a fuller sound giving equal attention to balance and broad tones...more sound in general compared to what you call the compressed sound of the LP. Personally, after purchasing a PRS a few months ago I haven't played the old LP at all. The PRS is more comfortable. Just holding the PRS compared to my LP, the PRS fits and doesn't fight me, but my LP is poorly balanced and neck heavy, a chore to just hold without rocking on my knee. The LP forces the player to balance the guitar while playing it, the PRS acts like it was made for my knee letting me play uninhibited. Thanks for a good honest review.
To me, the Les Paul sounded heavier and darker. The PRS sounds brighter, but at times approached the heavier Les Paul sound. They both sounded great in the hands of a very good player!
Interesting comparison. Keep in mind that the guitar that you think sounds the best when played by itself may not be the one you think sounds the best when played with other instruments/in a band. IMHO, both are great guitars.
What I hear between my Pauls and my CE24 is the Pauls have more bottom end thickness to where the CE24 is a tad on the tinny side. My CE24 sounds exactly the same as yours in the video. I think if you swap the steel Korean trem out for brass trem will smoothen that too end out great. Both guitars are great but different.
When it comes to the neck pickups, the number of frets plays a part in how they sound. The LP has 22 frets where as the PRS has 24, which places the neck pickup more towards the middle of the body giving it more midrange tone than the LP.
In a live situation, it would be very difficult to identify which is which without visuals, I reckon Robert✌
PRS CE 24 ,25 inch scale, Bolt On will give you more treble frequency rather than say a PRS Custom 22, or 24 simply because of construction difference. Scale length is also a major contributing factor as the LP is is a shorter scale, than a PRS 25 inch scale, Plus the CE has a Tremolo , brighter tonality
PRS sounds much better in a mix. BTW, ce24 is not the guitar to play dad rock McCarty 594 would be a closer comparison.
That Les Paul is a keeper for sure! Hard to find the ones that sound like that.
The thing about the PRS is that it adds a bit of the strat feel, to a Les Paul sort of platform or build. Really fantastic guitars. Just wish the frets were a size bigger
Robert, if you have to choose between one of those axes to go a gig, wich one would be your choice?
I really appreciate you answering.
The neck pickup comparison is a bit of apples and oranges. The PRS with 24 frets is at a severe disadvantage vs the LP with 22 frets imo. The difference in position relative to the bridge between the two will make a huge difference.
PRS definitely has an amazing sound. Les paul still unique. I've grown to love the PRS sound. Could almost replace both my telecaster and les paul
Definitely more chime with the PRS, but the LP has a nice dry, woody tonality to it. Both are great. My CU24 is definitely a more comfortable guitar to play with better fret access, but my LP just has “that” tone. Great guitars.
They are as I hear it the two best sides of a sweet guitar.Like a marriage between a man and a woman each with their own compliments. I enjoy my new 2017 CE24. Totally different than my 99' Gibson LP Std.My stash of tele's are something else. They all add to different playing styles and my enjoyment.
A lot of what you’re hearing as a preference for the PRS on the neck position and the twangyness you like in the middle position probably comes from the position of the neck pickup on a CE24 where it’s shifted quite noticeably (visually) towards the bridge because of the extra length of the neck. I suspect if you had a CE22 the PRS neck and middle position sounds would be more similar to a Les Paul. However, I still think the “solidity” of the neck to body join on a Les Paul (caused by the length of supported neck due to the single cut body shape) and the fixed bridge would lead to a noticeably stronger lower midrange response. However, I agree that this is only really noticeable when demoed back to back, or if you really know the rig and settings being played through you might notice it too.
Playing high gain you could not tell. But playing classic rock, you can. The Les Paul is less compressed, so more open and airy. So I prefer the sound of the LP. I have both. The PRS is so much lighter, so for a gig it is just great. It also is more versatile when it coil splits. It gets way more quacky Strat tones. Plus you can get a pretty nice looking SE for under $1000.
the prs does sound a bit brighter to me (keeping in mind that this prs has 24 frets, thus the neck pickup is a bit closer to the bridge), but I think that they are close enough that if I were to pick between the two (which I kinda am), I'd go with how they feel
"In the territory"? Yes, but... Only a couple of positions were close enough to need a second listen. Overall, in every position, to whatever extent, the Les Paul is richer and deeper. If you did this with a PRS and a Strat, the Fender will be thinner. I live near Annapolis MD, and have seen Paul play in his local bands many times and have spoken with him many times. He wasn't trying to duplicate anything - his original and primary goal was to combine the best features of the Strat and the Les Paul. He succeeded brilliantly.
I have a 2019 CE24 and a 2020 les Paul standard 60’s. Both great guitars in their own right. CE is more comfortable to play, but the Les Paul sounds better. Both stay in tune perfectly so I have the best of both worlds
its between a les paul and a strat in scale length, strat is 25,5", prs 25" and les paul 24,75"
Anyways, Robert : it was great sound, because you sound great!
Gibson sounds great!!!
My PRS can definitely out do a Les Paul in my opinion (at least it can outdo the 1994 Les Paul standard I have). Another good thing about a PRSis that when you flip it into a neck position pick up(of course pulling the knob and putting it into single coil position) It sounds incredibly close to a Stratocaster neck pickup. And I like being able to get a Les Paul and a Strat sound out of the same guitar. I definitely prefer PRS, and I just bought one on a whim about 10 years ago. Up until then I had been playing Gibsons and fenders exclusively. Now I only play my PRS, and I play my telecaster a lot. I still play my other guitars but nowhere near as much since I purchased the PRS
In playabillity? Yes!!!
Les Paul def has more bass n lower mids, but the PRS has a chimey punch. Love both
Give me the Gibson. I mean literally, give me the Gibson. I love the sound of that guitar. To my ears, it's the Les Paul in a clean sweep. I thought that it sounded better, more alive, and had more character in every position. And no, I'm not a Gibson person or a PRS hater.
Don't forget that the PRS is a CE model as such its a bolt on neck
I have both a LP and a PRS custom 24, and whilst the humbuckers on the LP are definitely hotter, and the guitar itself has more sustain, I prefer the PRS for playability and tuning stability. I traded my American series Strat for the PRS and don't regret it at all, although it's fiddly tremolo arm is a pain and I've pretty much given up on it altogether now.
Both guitars sound great.
Dig em both.
I have been and am a Les Paul fan, but I just play much more my Se Custom than my Les Paul Studio. It's more comfortable and feels better and easier to play.
I have prs ce and a les Paul and I usually adjust the presence control on the amp or the tone control on the guitar 🎸 because my ce has more top end than my lp.
The scale length of the PRS gives it a snap that is very in LesPaul
In build quality, factory setup and playability a PRS will win in a canter. But a PRS has a different sound to an LP, it may get close but they are different beasts. Both great guitars. 👍
The tremolo bridge makes a hugeeee difference in sound
PRs definitely has a detectable strat flavor especially with the bridge pickup
lp is fatter but not necessarily fuller which is coo
i have a les paul and prs a along with tele and strat and sg all feel different but my go guitars are my pro and tele great workhorses
Well, we're talking about two completely different types of wound pickups. Other than that, the PRS definitely has better access to those upper frets.
Hey Robert, I was Thinking of switching out my Les Paul for a PRS S2. What would you recommend?
They both have great tone, but I prefer the neck, feel and weight of a PRS over an LP any day!
Hi Great riffing! You are playing a PRS CE 24 which has a bolt on neck. I would like to know how it compares to a strat. I think a demo with a PRS Custom 24 and a Les Paul would be a better comparison.
I have both of those guitars, as well as a PRS core 24, and an SE 245. Gibson guitars sound phenomenal in overdrive... but I don't care for them clean... except for some blues stuff. I play clean 90 percent of the time... and all of my PRS guitars sound significantly better and warmer clean. The Gibson sounds brittle... but has really great bite for overdrive. Now Gibson doesn't sound bad for clean... it's still an amazing guitar... but just not as good as PRS clean. The core 24 versus Gibson would have been better comparison.... Side the CE has it's own voice... which I love too... maybe more for clean... but for overdrive more bassy tones the core would match more of the Gibson sound. The PRS is way more versatile and comfortable to play. Can't go wrong with either guitar though. And even a Gibson studio is totally USA guitar and sounds epic for a quarter of what a core PRS would cost... and sounds pro level in everyway...as does the SE 245. The SE 245 has more Gibson like tone than the CE too. The CE is like super strat... but better and fatter sounding.... and that's coming from someone who owns a American standard strat too...
Only problem... That CE has a maple neck which is going to make it brighter...which it does...plus, it has a trem. You want a better comparison, get an original McCarty and do this again. There will be surprising results...
I'm struggling about which guitar to buy. I have a strat that I love and a dangelico that I happened upon. I either want a Prs s2/ce or a chapman ml3 modern. Anyone got opinions? I know I want a duel humbucker guitar that has coil split/tap for heavier downtuned riffage.
I just feel like PRS you can get a PRS a branded PRS whether be from Korea or the United States and have a be almost the exact same guitar of course pick up some electronics differ but I've never seen anything less than top quality out of either factory with Gibson if you want a true Gibson there's no other option for you then out of their US factory and their US factory clearly still has a long way to go in terms of customer relations and quality control while I've not played a Gibson I have looked at a lot of Gibson's just walking by them and I can notice imperfections in the finish and I could go on for days but can a PRS out Gibson a Gibson in more ways than one
I have that same Macho Man shirt!
Thanks for the comparison! I wonder how close a single cut PRS would come?
I have both and the result would be very close to what you heard here. An SE 245 is closer in sound and feel to a LP.
It might just be the sound on youtube but I like the clean tones I get from my low price LTD more than I like the clean tones on the les paul. I would love to see a test with an esp eclipse and the paul reed smith.
Yes
Can you tell us what amp you were using and settings ? The middle position on the les Paul sounded like a tele amazing
, but over all there was more highs in the prs and more balls in the les Paul
The Les Paul sounds more pleasant to my ears probably also because the pickups are less hot. Great video
PRS Sounds clearer, Note separation is better, but the Les Paul definitely sounds warmer, and deeper.... and Oh by the way, I own a PRS CE, so thank you Robert for this experiment. COOL!!!
Do you own a Les Paul Jr w/P90's, ? just curious ....interested.
Only reason I choose PRS is my back. Even the weight relieved Les Paul weighs much more than the regular Custom 24. Im curious about the MM1 from Ibanez but no store seems to carry them and I cant tell if its a great guitar or just the several great guitarists Ibanez hire to market their products on youtube.
Prs for me dude. 👍
its all good
first comparison really sounded like hotei tomoyasu's battle without honor or humanity from kill bill
Nope. The LP just got that thicc bass for days. The clean neck pickup on the PRS was good though.
The Prs is a good quality Guitar, but it's no Les Paul IMHO, it's Thin but some people prefer that, but I only need my LP!!! 💯 Great vid though! Thank you it just reminded me that I own an amazing Guitar!
I think I found my next guitar. I was looking for something not as muddy as a SG or Les Paul and with a little more body than my Telecaster.
I had a 2002 standard and a 01 McCarty model PRS. The McCarty model ended up being sold...
The cream will rise to the top, oooh yeah!
Never played either, though I want a PRS. But I'll wager that anything a LP can do, a PRS can do better.
The Les Paul seems to have more mids (clarity), but the PRS sounds great too, just seems that the amp was set to the Paul. The PRS splits in the middle? Sounded like it to me...
totally agree 100%
I liked the clean tone of the prs more all others goes to the les paul. Maybe if the prs was dialed in a little different in the eq I would have liked it more. Because it sounded a lot better on the clean then with the drive
Well I have 1972 LP and it sounds like an old LP. I had a 2014 LP and I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. I have a PRS 24 and 2 McNaughts, and all 3 sound a magnitude better than any Gibson, hands down. The neck mounting joint on the McNaughts are done the way a real guitar should be built. The only reason I keep my LP is because it was my first guitar back in the day but it does not get much use.
Im partial to the PRS but im biased as i own a bunch of them, The CE being a bolt on is a bit snappier, i think the real test would be one of the Set neck PRS's against the LP
Short answer: yes
they made improvements upon both gibson and fender, to the point that it's difficult to even make improvements from that standpoint
Different guitars and pups.l.p. sounds in a class of its own.
man i fookin want PRS :D