Against the Academics: Agrippa's War on Scholasticism
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- A brief history of anti-academic sentiment from Plato's Academy in 4th century BC Athens to Agrippa's war on scholasticism during the 16th-century Renaissance.
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This channel really makes me feel like I'm in the ancient world somehow. You're amazing!
I’d also recommend the channel “Abbas the Alchemist”. He specializes in the Hellenistic era, but I think he’s the very best at explaining how the worldview of ancient writers worked, and really putting you into their mindset.
@thenew4559 thx!!!
We make our world. Take what you learn and make it real.
@@Readabookfoofoo I take notes!
I absolutely love Agrippa. His passion, the way he spoke, his obstreperousness. He never surrendered. He loved learning. Thank you for this
Please don’t stop making these lectures.
What a well balanced presentation. From history to tradition, this is a great overview of the very valuable topic of education itself.
As a catholic, i can find fault in agrippas full view, yet i am compelled to comment that an imbalance in scholasticism and the essential active living faith does lead to defects.
The quoted passage depicts this well and we are left to our own reason amd intellect, with the help of grace, to still strive for sharing a faith so universally sound as well as so universally lived.
Peace!
Keep up the great work, Dr Attrell 👏
Thanks, you too!
Loved the information. Great pacing!!! Thanks as always!
Thank you 🙏 friend for doing the Lord's work 🎉
Thanks!
Thank you kindly Craig 🙏
Jumping on the Agrippa train with Esoterica I see, 2024 is the year of Agrippa ❤ hope you have a happy holiday and wonderful New Year Attrell 🫶🎆
nominalist much?
very much apreciating the info there in clip
I ❤ agrippa 😜😁👑
Ive been mainlining esotericas lectures on Agrippa and must say it really elevates the experience of the book. Many thanks to you fellows 🙏
Happy holidays dan 🥂🥳
I am so glad this is an esoteric channel that is not AI generated. Thank you for making all this effort
Gorgeous artwork , wonderful lecture ! Thank you 😊
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wonderful detail
I really enjoy the way you pronounce the word "been", it adds an extra layer of intensity and validity.
Thank you for this. This is such valuable informaton.
Very well done. Thank you !
Thank you for your work
One of the higher quality channels on this topic.
I am bored and frustrated, of AI voiceovers asking me endless rhetorical questions while making subpar philosophical statements.
Heck ya dan, I remember learning about core-periphery dynamics from you in the encyclopedia hermetica (blessed is it's memory)
Hardcore fans are still waiting for the three parts about Jesus
Those lectures connected entirely too much of what I've learned to be able to personally explain how it's connected. They let practical alchemy and mythology click for me as one example, and helped me understand a personally psychological view of broad mythologies outside of deconstruction, simple archetypes, and explanations of unknown forces, as another example.
Nice @@Brokentwobutton
This is gold!
Gold Jerry, gold!!
wow this is great thank you
You two have really made Agrippa great again. 🎉
Ta Dan wonderful x
My favorite part about paradoxical arguments is how I don't need to say a word to expose them.
as. . .busy being lazy?
This is a sweet channel!!!
Thank you kindly
My goodness, @30min going forward, describes Billy Carson in our modern day.
The irony here, ohhhh Danny Boy, You escape it so well….. I love it. 🥰🙏🏼
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“The Final Theory: Rethinking Our Scientific Legacy “, Mark McCutcheon for proper physics including the CAUSE of gravity, electricity, magnetism, light and well.... everything. Physics first then metaphysics. “The Unique and Its Property “, Max Stirner,1844/2017 Landstreicher translation for the end/ overthrow of metaphysics- “fixed ideas “- “No idea has existence, because none is capable of embodiment.”
How ironic of Plato, the pupil of Socrates, sentenced to death for "corrupting the youth" to accuse of the same thing to his rivals, the sophists. Diogenes was right when he spit on the arrogance of Plato and also when he mocked his "wisdom" with that plucked chicken.
Diogenes was right.
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Knowledge for Knowledge sake. Now it's how much profit can we get from this knowledge .
Knowledge shouldn’t be for knowledge’s own sake either, though that is a step up from its utility in accumulating material comforts. Knowledge should be pursued to inform our actions, and lead a virtuous life. That’s real wisdom; knowledge put into practice, not just stuck in our heads.
"how much profit" is pursuit of inowledge.
I'm pretty sure i went to community college with this guy
I have never been to community college
@@TheModernHermeticistnearly positive they mean Agrippa; who also didn’t.
Excellent video.
The vanity and arrogance of accumulated knowledge is especially rancid these days. Maybe more so than ever.
37:30 “the thickets of syllogisms” 😂😂 I’m convinced more than ever Agrippa was just a poor student
(Answer) Hence That Proverb 46:11
Western man has assumed that all you need for any problem is enough force power and that there is no problem which won’t submit to this approach…… even the problem of our own ignorance. -Frank Herbert.
Now calm down guys, everyone is a little bit right here - guy who didnt make it into the history books
And why be so obsessed with getting your name printed on books? Shouldn't you want to do great things beside that, whether or not your name becomes famous? Doing the right thing, despite what others may think of it, especially imaginary future people, like damn.
If that's your only reason, it feels quite petty, and not "worthy of greatness" if that's what you seek.
Just to be clear, I also have issues with academia, but that doesn't make academic work useless. You can be critical of people and things without throwing them in the garbage, friendships and relations are also like that.
@pedrosampaio7349 I would say the guy who didnt make it into the history books because he was seeking to synthesize all of those competing thoughts. Much like content creators, these old philosophers were hardlining one note "THIS is IT everyone else is WRONG" its provocative, gets the people going.
I think its important nuanced thought gets passed down, because all we will have to learn from are the loudest, forceful and most closed minded voices in the room if they get crowded out.
Aye, i have read your comment and reply. I am appreciative. Your comment took a little bit to comprehend, with your reply, I get it.
I'd add the various establishmentarians and disestablishmentarians have used philosophy, sophistically, the rhetorically win.
Too many play partisan zerosum games, rather than seek a more wholistic comprehension of the truth, which I would propose involves a widespread continual conversation amongst participants involved with good faith, rather than private gain.
I don't care about the book but the reality.
@@pedrosampaio7349 Intellectuals are less than useless. They can not be leaders.
Water is Water
Oh, that Agrippa
I agree completely with Agrippa. Modern academic polymathy is quite full of illuminatic shite.
shite reququires a nose for it.
Where questions are dead, religion is dead or dying.
Just started reading the "vanity of arts and science" crazy sync
To myself the scholar and anti scholars are one in the same and both can provide an observational perspective of egocentric behavior. They are both the same for having a position with information
Either is a theism that says, "I know it all"
The philosopher gets past the, "anti" mode of thoughtform and finds the substance that had causal effect on consciousness
So some things are just, descriptive language which might seem hypocritical to definition
A philosophical mind can express a position with a neutral opinion as a counter point to someone with position
I came upon the two things, once, and many were stuck together dogs copulating an observation of a position involving three. I then drew in the mind about the paper of things seen and done by some together and said, "kama sutra"
Plato’s academia? How about The library of Alexandria?
18:19 monks were laypeople too. Benedict was never ordained. Common mistake.
The differentiation is usually between 'lay' and 'religious', not 'lay' and 'ordained.'
@ Sebastian Morello provides a reminder that the dichotomy was between lay and ordained and that the status of religious could be applied to each. Lay religious, ordained religious as example. Oblature/tertiary orders was a means for laity and ordained who could not fully participate in the order’s charism due to duties of state (i.e. parish ministry, busy merchant, farmer and father of a family, king or queen) to participate in part to their best abilities.
Alright
So studying dialectic and logic is evil to these scholars ?
I studied Roman History during my school days and I was taught that the Romans were allowed to wear certain colours according to their social and political rank. Those who were at the top of the Roman social and political hierarchy were allowed to wear as many colours as they wished. Those who were at or close to the bottom of the Roman social and political hierarchy were only allowed to wear two or three shades such as black, white or grey. I often look at the clothes for sale in online chain stores and most of the clothes they have on display online are in black, while and grey only. Those clothes come in spots, stripes, floral and plain and they come in many and varied fabrics but they are mostly black, white and grey and all combinations of the same. I watch videos of interior room decorating online and most of the rooms which are shown are decorated in predominantly black, white and grey. Most of the colourful vehicles have disappeared off our streets and have been replaced with mostly black, white and grey vehicles. I am fully aware that those who are attempting to centralize all financial, political, legal, social, religious, educational and all other control throughout the world are themselves Jesuits who are Roman soldiers in the private army of the black pope. They are strongly affiliated with the United Nations and together they are acting to enslave us all under their tyrannical control. They are slowly encouraging people to wear black, while and grey clothes and have black, while and grey vehicles and homes. If they fail to technologically enslave us we will then be able to purchase clothes in as many colours as we choose. Please make an effort to avoid black, white and grey in all your interior decorating, in your vehicle colour choice and in the clothes you wear.
Love colors because they are beautiful, not because monochrome is a sign of encroaching evil. When you look outside and only see signs of plotting in whites and greys, you miss all the color that's already there. Fighting with happiness and beauty will keep you sustained rather than drained. Look for the colors you've been missing whenever you can.
Suspiciously anti-Intellectual (Agrippa, not the Modern Hermeticist). I savored the language but remain wary of the generalizations and vitriol.
Board of Ed "spells" Bed zzzzz Common Core = 33 that's their Calling Card. Ecc 1:9
The most bombastic critiques of the scholastics come from its worst flunkouts. A man wants to accuse others of having "falsely interpreted Aristotle" but keeps his own interpretations obscure, as if to avoid scrutiny. It is the same thing over again: men couldn't respond to Abelard and resort to lampshading their own rhetorical failures with generalized, indeterminate insults. Nevermind that the "quibbling over authorities" originates with the patristric-era debate tactic of the florilegium, which served as the basis for why scholastics were concerned with authorities. Surely Agrippa knew the grand irony of citing St Jerome as an opponent of "contentions" and ignored it.
The humanist concerns with ethics is the most carnal of all doctrines, for the practical application of knowledge is second to quiet contemplation of God for which we are made. If grace builds on nature and does not replace it, then certainly revelation perfects reason and does not abolish it. That is a reason Neoplatonists were centered in Alexandria. They depended on the Jewish Diaspora and their revelation more than they'd care to admit. The shadow that went before Plotinus was the Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria, and the School of Alexandria depended on Christian contribution until it was finally swallowed up by it.
Of course the "dancing satyrs" blow their trumpets and tear down what they cannot build. It is the jealousy of the vulgar to sequester themselves in the occult, because when it is shone to light it withers and perishes.
I ask you something I'm personally considering. What led to modern scientific inventions? for the line that real holy truth is shown with a sign of collective agreements on opinions aka the creation of facts. When you look in a telescope the image my eyes witness is the same as your eyes thus we agree planets orbit the sun and have specific elements. Same with a microscope I can and you can both see the cells and microbes. These things represent the holy truth of an infinite galaxy and a microscopic galaxy sharing space as if God was saying I'm both all and nothing big and small the union of opposite happened from myself at you Christ who is born into the earth human body. While killing someone could be evil or justified or even great and honorable no one doubts what they see in the microscope. You can't say those things I see through the looking glasses aren't that which you see once you look too. Has history been leading to the truth that debate over morals is purely unimportant in totality while very important in the individual life? Is it true then that God wants us to invent ways to witness the creation of life and space time fabric of the universe and their relationships through more impressive instruments? Or in other words ALL intellectual thoughts were time killers until we'd grow socially sophisticated to connect the teachings of Christ with the observations of our grand space observations and investigations.
Does that make everything all fluffy philosophies aka coincidences or stumbles up the stairs to modern times or is there ONE lineage of ideas that led to the invention of the agreed on devices that always give consistent data? In that case could any ideology like traditionalism which contradicts scientific growth be holy negative to the perceived goal of connecting Christ with the observations of infinity
Also blah blah blah and they all lived happily ever after All, love yah
No matter how right or wrong you are about the incompleteness of their critique to your belief, not entertaining that critique will leave you and your beliefs weaker.
@ Sure, and that’s what the reason scholasticism applied dialectic to contested questions, especially when students would write a commentary on Lombard’s Sentences.
If you're fine with my argument, why write a whole ass contradicting it? Especially the bit on why humanist emphasis on ethics is 'carnal' and therefore lesser? Can't it just be as intellectually valuable or interesting, but just not what you need for your own intellectual goals?
Actually, isn't anything people do by their own initiative based on some form of ethics? Apparently, according to you, it is more ethical to focus on spiritual matters in the pursuit of knowledge than on practical applications, but isn't that itself a practical application? Solving your own desire for such things?
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Actually, to clear things up, I'd like to see if you yourself have any critiques of scholasticism you find worth sharing. As I see it anyway, like any idea, it has its limits of usefulness, being a human creation, and will have 'flaws', especially if you use it for the wrong goal
give the mic some space
on the material
criticism without construction is cheap
Totally worthless polemicist this Agrippa little man was: he was just insulting everyone and saying nothing but have faith in the idolatry of ancient words. Pure water is not at the bottom of the well or the swamp... but only exists after earth, decantation (or some other device) has thoroughly filtered it from the mud and other filth. Very disappointed with this video, really.
cynic.
40:58 evesdrop is to listen in on someone's conversation. But eve didn't drop having an opinion. Logical man could not reason why the devil would fool him.
Smh :) Agrippas . Wow he always sounds so immature and bitter . Nobody bought his E book lol now,
Everybody is stupid but me and I'm like sooo enlightened and your all so dumb.
Dork.
Wait is that the Official first words of a Micro Dk personality .
I can understand their argument. One should naturally come to their wisdom to negate the false wisdoms one may precieve through schooling. Wisdom comes from experience and knowledge. With schooling comes the ability to regergitate material as well as knowledge, phylosophy is required for these individuals to begin forming wisdom.