FD2 goes supersonic at Farnborough airshow
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1956 - when sonic booms were allowed at airshows, Peter Twiss in the Fairey Delta 2 - the fastest aircraft in the world at that time, overflies Farnborough at mach 1.2 as part of a double display.
Gosh! Never seen this before. It's enough to make you cry when you think about the aircraft industry we could have had!😢
What?
The UK was bankrupt from fighting the war and losing its colonies. It’s amazing that they were able to do what they could.
Russian troll.
And we have another Labour government in to deny us the chance to develop localised nuclear reactor electricity supply.
@@calvinnickel9995 That is the accepted argument, and yet we continued to spend money on defence, technology, and appliances but ever more and more of it was from abroad instead of circulating the money domestically. Something doesn't add up?
Inspiring and infuriating in equal measure! Infuriating because this illustrates that if you put a group of Brit Engineers in a shed, out rolls something world-beating, to be greeted by yawns of indifference from the powers that be. Leave it to our competitors to reap the benefits!
All was not lost. An FD2 was later fitted with ogive wings and carried out preparatory research for Concorde, plus the drooping snout. It was flown from RAE Bedford by Sqd Ld Angus McVicky.
Too true!
@@microflyer100’ogee or ogival’?
By consistantly not supporting British aviaion, the short sightedness of the ruling establishment is borderline treasonous.
@@Nimboid-20 Agree, very interesting conflab with an RR engineer this week. They are super careful about China but no amount of vetting can apparently stop them from weaselling out innately brilliant ideas and designs from us.
They can even soup up viruses haha...ooops
As a kid I used to love watching the Farnborough airshows of the 1950's on television, always with Raymond Baxter commentating. I vividly remember the Fairey Delta 2 and the Fairey Rotodyne.
Me too 😊
One of the best looking cold war jets, sleek and simple lines. Loved seeing the original at Cosford!
Great stuff, as a kid I remember seeing the newspaper headline in large font 1132mph after the record flight.
Yes, my dad showed it to me at breakfast.
Now the country is in a deep hole it will be difficult to get out of.
Conceptionalised in 1947, built by 54, smashing records by 56, the FD2 clearly was a fantastic aeroplane.
Investigating transonic speeds to be later used in the development of the Concorde. It's a shame they didn't overcome the boom issue, but 70 odd years later NASA Lockheed's X59 hasn't yet fixed it either.
Very true, glad you pointed that out.👍🤓😄
New subscriber. As an American, I love the British jets. Amazing accomplishments considering some arguably limited budgets for some time after WWII. Now the Typhoon, and the future Tempest. Great!
Tempest will never happen and the US will never allow it to happen. The proxy forever-war US has planted on Europe's doorstep had turned European defense policy on its head. Just like it was supposed to.
Typhoon is not British... and the Tempest doesn't exist.
@@WilhelmKarsten He never said the Tempest existed. Do you just say things for the sake of having said something?
US will never allow the UK or the EU to develop a 6th Generation fighter. I said this already and explained why but my comment was deleted. Freedom's great isn't it?
@@ZelenskyTheMadClown Then why mention it??
One of the most gorgeous planes ever made. Possibly the most gorgeous delta. For me the Mirage IIIE/O is hard to beat but this is gorgeous. Shows what the Poms can do, and why was this not a world beater…?
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerkeWhat era are you talking about?
Well, range was definitely an issue, and it's really a tiny airframe so not much room for equipment either. But it was used as a testbed for Concorde. But having two prototypes flying an airshow routine: those were the days!
It was loaned to the French for testing, all the data was fed into building the Mirage!
@@grahampritchard5284Not quite. The Air Ministry terminated almost all of its air defence fighter projects in the aftermath of the 1957 Defence Review, which posited that SAMs were the better way to do air defence.
Fairey Aviation wanted to carry on with development work. Lacking Air Ministry funds and facilities, they looked for a partner and found Avions Marcel Dassault, who were willing to provide both in exchange for data sharing.
In practice, the Dassault Mirage III is the direct descendent of the Fairey Delta 2, which is why they look so alike.
Amazing footage♥️
A Very Well Piloted Demonstration👍
Beautiful. Worth a trip to the FAA Museum at RNAS Yeovilton to see the one with the ogee wing.
The BAC 221
@ is that a question, statement or a cry for help.
Fairey was known as a builder of rather slow, outdated and lumbering naval aircraft like the Swordfish, Albacore and Barracuda. Then they came up with this!
Same as Avro Canada, mundane designs then the quantum leap of the Arrow and Orianda engine that could have been world beaters, but betrayed by government, a foretaste of the TSR2.
@@percyprune7548All examples of when your reach far exceed your grasp.
I'm one of the lucky employees to have a piece of the original Cody Tree which the curator of the Museum to have.
Thank you so much , I worked at the RAE / DERA for 10 yrs, gr8t time of my life .
Great , what a fantastic looker !
Didn't know there were two of these. Must be one of them that had a different set of wings which I saw at Farnborough in 1966..
At least one got new ‘Concorde’ ogee wings as well as the droop-snoot seen on these FD2’s, during the research and development of that beautiful aircraft; my recollection is that version was the BAC221 but stand ready to be corrected.
A Dassult Mirage before they had it .
France was ahead of Britain in supersonic aircraft.
The UK was at the forefront of aviation, but unfortunatelly as so often happens, pioneers do not reap the benefits. Think of the Comet.
Canada did it too, literally dumped our entire future of aviation in the lake
Um, no. The uk was never a forefront of aviation. Just rubbish. However, accolades are rendered with Monty python , Benny Hill
@@pkelly3463 WW1 Sopwith Camel. There were competitive US planes then?
WW2 Where would the US have been without the British providing the jet engines (and the plans), the P51 was built to British requirements but was still a turkey until fitted with a Rolls Royce engine.
Post war English Electric Canberra. Made by Martin (B47) under license. The English Electric Lightning showed it could intercept the U2.
The Vickers Vulcan nuked the USA twice, fortunately an exercise but US airforce knew they were coming and still failed to intercept them.
Britain was never a leader in aviation.
Looking for info on the angle of attack with that tall front strut .
Wow!
I saw these in the 50s.... mach 2 aircraft... way ahead of anything anyone else could make at the time.
Where did we go wrong!!😢😢😢
@@shirleydrury5565 Lost the war against Adolf.
This 'video' looks like 'video' and not film. But we did not have colour video cameras [or tape] in 1956. So it must have been shot on film. Can ColdWarJets shed any light on this please?
The original broadcast was in black and white. it would've been a telerecording onto film from a live broadcast I presume as I think tape came in later, and from there at some point it's been transferred to tape. I've then edited, restored and colourised it. Hope that helps! I've also got some 1953 footage I'm working on at the moment (vulcan), and that seems to use a different system. The quality is much poorer I'm afraid.
See my reply to @PaulsOldVids (1 month ago). It's 16mm film according to the usual production arrangements of the day, and by the faded look of colour reversal film. Eastman Ektachrome if I remember correctly.
Fabulous plane that gave us the design for the Concord. The US was jealous again and the French wanted in as their design wasn't good enough and like the UK couldn't afford to build it alone. Brave men flew them and great engineers designed and made them.
When Britain was still great.
Believe a lot of the testing was done in France as their authorities funded the test. They then took that knowledge to create the Mirage line of deltas. Uk snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, again!
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
BAE Hawk. More than 1000 built for 18 operators. And the US Navy bought it.
Harrier also.
Today the Eurofighter is a BAE design. And its EJ200 engines are RR designed.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
The EJ200 was taken directly from RR's XG40 demonstrator. The "40" referring to a 40% growth from the RB199 family powering the Tornado. The three-shaft RB199 itself was a RR engine. "RB" denoting "Rolls Bristol".
The Typhoon was a BAE design. It was adapted from BAE's own EAP canard-delta demonstrator. And of course the programme was subsequently shared out amongst the Eurofighter consortium partners. Same for the engine with the Eurojet partners.
None of the other Eurofighter & Eurojet partners could have produced anything at all without BAE's and RR's respective aircraft, relaxed stability flight control system, and engines designs -- all of which had been developed and extensively demonstrated by those British companies.
ps. My point about the Hawk and Harrier was that were produced and exported long after you claimed that the UK's industry had collapsed.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
My point about the Hawk and Harrier, was that the UK was building and exporting them long after you claimed the UK's aerospace industry had collapsed.
Regarding the EJ200, that was a direct evolution of RR's own XG40 demonstrator engine. ("40" denoting a 40% growth over Rolls' previous RB199 three-shaft design for the Tornado.)
The Eurofighter, was an evolution of the BAe's own EAP demonstrator, featuring close-coupled canard-delta layout with relaxed stability flight control system.
None of the other Eurojet and Eurofighter partners could have produced anything without these developments by RR and BAe respectively.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
The EAP was not cancelled. It was a demonstrator of fighter technologies developed by BAe. It served its purpose.
The Germans never produced anything of the kind. The "Taktisches Kampfflugzeug 90" was their fantasy project.
In the Eurojet consortium, the only partner who came to the table with an actual proven engine design was Rolls-Royce with its XG40 -- which they had built and tested in Bristol UK.
Filmed in September 1956. Beautiful, back when we British still made our own aircraft. If only there hadn't been all the government cuts in the 1950's we would lead the world in aircraft design today and not have to rely on the Americans
It's quite easy though: we were absolutely broke. We've only made our last debt payment from WWII in the last few years.
Government of the day was under the illusion that the days of piloted aircraft were over and missiles would do everything in future.
I love these Farnborough videos but I don't understand how they are in colour. Can you please explain how they have been coloured?
"Colourizing Black and White Images and Videos
Colourization is the process of adding colour to black and white images or videos. It's a complex process that involves a combination of human artistry and computer technology.
Here's a simplified breakdown of the process:
* Digitization: The black and white material (film, negatives, or prints) is scanned into a digital format.
* Frame-by-Frame Analysis: Each frame of the video or image is examined individually.
* Object Identification: The software or artist identifies different objects within the frame, such as people, sky, grass, and buildings.
* Colour Assignment: Based on the identified objects and historical or contextual information, colours are assigned. For example, a sky might be colored blue, and grass might be colored green.
* Colour Adjustment: The colours are adjusted and refined to ensure a natural and consistent appearance throughout the sequence.
* Rendering: The colourized frames are combined to create the final colored video or image.
Key Challenges and Considerations:
* Consistency: Ensuring that colours remain consistent throughout the entire sequence can be challenging, especially in long videos or images with complex scenes.
* Accuracy: The accuracy of the colourization depends on the quality of the original material, the skill of the artist or software, and the availability of historical or contextual information.
* Artistic Interpretation: Colourization can involve artistic interpretation, as there may be multiple possible colour combinations for a given scene.
* Computational Power: Colourizing large quantities of video or high-resolution images can be computationally intensive and time-consuming.
While the process has become more automated with advancements in technology, human intervention is still often required to achieve the desired results, especially for complex or historically significant materials."
If that’s colorisation, it’s piss-poor. I think it was probably shot on colour film-stock. By the mid-fifties British Movietone News and Pathé were shooting in colour. Many British people still made weekly visits to the local cinema and there was always a 10 - 15 minute news short, either Pathé or BMN.
By the early 60s television was taking over and cinemas were closing down and turning into bingo parlours. Colour TV didn’t start up until 1968, I think.
It was shot in colour on Film.
@q.e.d.9112 this is kiniscope record which is essentially a film camera recording a tv picture off a tv screen. In 1956 I doubt the BBC had video recorders as they had only just been released to the market. If they were shooting in colour tv and then this filmed off the screen by colour film camera this might explain the bad colour, but I doubt they had experimental colour outside broadcast unit available. So I am confused because the colourised film does look like bad colour video, I'd have expected colourised footage to be more stable.
@@PaulsOldVids I have a different opinion, based on working in film and television in the 60's; this event would be shot with 16mm film cameras, with sound on 1/4 inch magnetic tape - probably EMI. Film stock was colour reversal, and it does not age very well. Crew would be Reporter, Director, cameraman, camera assistant, sound man. Often Reporter (also known as "correspondent") and Director would be the same person. Cheers!
What year please, taken to these by father many times. Lovely video thanks for sharing 👍
1956
What an airframe. What a shape. And just 11 years after the end of WW2. Baby Concorde.
The French Mirage fighter is a direct result of this aircraft!
True, you can clearly see the resemblance. The French learn and copy. UK, Italy and Germany are engineers.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
Testing of the UK's Fairey Delta 2 was carried out in France for some time, in part due to their 'good relations' with Dassault Aviation and the French Air Force. In October and November 1956, a total of 47 low-level supersonic test flights were conducted from Cazaux Air Base, Bordeaux; a detachment of Dassault engineers closely observed these trials, learning a great deal about delta wing aircraft from the Delta 2. Dassault went on to produce the MD.550 Mystère-Delta design, which bore a striking resemblance to the Delta 2; the MD.550 design would proceed to be manufactured as the successful Dassault Mirage III fighter.
@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke
~ The Nord Griffon could only reach Mach 1.3.
~ The subsequent Griffon II could only attain Mach 2 with a ‘brute force’ functioning ramjet.
~ By then the English Electric Lightning had already reached Mach 2 using only turbojets - two Rolls-Royce Avons. (I’m not sure which was first to Mach 2 - the Lightning or the F104 -- in 1958)
~ The Lightning was also the first turbojet powered operational fighter aircraft to be able to supercruise without afterburners.
By the way, in 1954, the Super Mystere was powered by the UK’s RR Avon engine.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Actually, the F104 beat both the French and the British by two years. (It got to Mach 2 in 1956)
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke Britain had its own experts. Not only did the UK make it's own Mach 2 fighter, but they gave France a huge 'helping hand' in designing their Mirage III ! The French industry should be grateful for that. But of course they are not. They like to believe it's all their own work. Just as they did with Concorde. And Airbus etc. etc.
Home-owned British Aviation and motor industry, dead. Used to enjoy going to the Farnborough Airshow..but no more as General Public days were killed off..
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Sonic booms over UK airspace have never been permitted.
OK The RAF responding to a QRA alert excepted.
@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke I think a therapist might be a better use of your time than derangedly replying to every single comment in this video over several days with comments that are unrelated to the thing you're replying to. Countries roads still have speed limits regardless of what percentage of the cars using them were built there.
QRA says hi 💥
beautiful mini concorde
Yes it was the fore runner of Concorde, including the droop nose.
Fairey never produced a successful jet aircraft and was defunct years before Concorde began... there was no connection between the FD.2 and the Concorde
She's an odd looking bird
Not a successful design either
The award for the "Worst Air Show Commentator Ever" goes to: That guy 🏆
The Government ! We always sell are assets!! Shame!!😢😢
Went orf across the next county in the turn. 😊 fast but not manoeuvrable.
Remember UKs 'Lightning'
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Aka the _"Aluminium Death Tube"_ by RAF pilots
Seems much easier to land than the star fighter.
The Starfighter completely outclassed the FD.2
Never went into production but the French Mirage did with huge export sales. Who needs a 5th Column when the British government wrecks the British aviation industry all on it's own.
The UK was never a leader in aviation or supersonic aircraft technology
The Frenchies basically copied the FD2 as the Mirage 3 series and sold hundreds of them.
Never happened...
Imagine. There was a time when Britain produced incredible things like this and no one was bothered by things like Black Lives Matter or “ transgenderism”.
Why are you trying to turn a video about cold war jets into a discussion about modern identity politics? Bizarre. I've come here to nerd out and relax so I can forget the BS of modern politics.
_Black lives matter_ would have been far more important back then, we have learned lessons from mistakes of the past. Nasty people were just as obnoxious then as they are now and of course there were far more of them in the past.
Shut up.
It wasn't people like you producing them then, just like it isn't people like you producing anything now.
Shocking lack of diversity in the crowds.
As it is taken as read that there was a huge coloured population, they were probably at some riot or something,
Ho ho ho! Well said sir! There were none here pretty much in 1952.