5:30 they’re setting up House Caswell because they’re going to be important: basically they’re from the north of the Reach and the Hightowers are from the south of the Reach, both Tyrell vassals, but the Caswells don’t like how the Hightowers act as if they’re the overlords of the entire Reach when they’re not.
25:54 IMO, George created the same character just on opposite sides. Just look at their names. They’re anagrams of each other: Aemond (move the ‘D’ to the front) = Daemon
My favorite episode of HotD so far. Paddy Considine was on his own level in this episode. His performance as Viserys is gonna be remembered for a long time ❤
Daemon whispering "Say it.." is so sinister. He was just itching to decapitate Vaemond. 25:24 I love the way Daemon defuses the situation with one finger at Rhaenyra's sons and a look at Aemond
16:47 Vicerys’ final walk to the throne was so epic. Best musical track of the series. ❤😢 And the loving look that he shared with his daughter! I can’t!
4:02 - Yes, that's true. However, Vaemond gives his true intentions away by selecting himself. If Lucerys is a bastard then the next in line to Driftmark would be the children of Laena Velaryon and Daemon because a son comes before a daughter but a daughter comes before an uncle. So the fact that he wants to claim Dirftmark himself over them gives away his real ambitions which are either purely or mostly personal.
Yeah so many people get upset because they think Vaemond is the heir. They forget that it's like how Casterly Rock would go to Cersei before Tywin's brother.
@@sproductionsinc Yeah he was too ambitious. I think Baela then would need to take her mothers name. Due to Daemon she is a Targaryen. But I think this would have been possible. Jace was going to change his name from Velaryon to Targaryen as well.
show did well to ensure vaemond went on saying what he said instead of backing down, even though he knew there wont be a good outcome for him. he for one is not taking injustice of entitled tyrants passively. and this is an instance where making his house black fits rather well. scene is full of various subtextual nuances and allusions. viserys is a well written and acted instance of a horrible father and king, who deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning . he is a horrible father, husband and king. foreseeable consequences of his actions prove that clearly also prophecy can be misleading. that prophecy was probably made intentionally to destroy targs and dragons.
I find it rather appalling Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir and then spent the rest of his life doing nothing to groom her for the role. He didn't give her a seat at the Small Council as an advisor to learn. He didn't give her any responsibilities to test and build herself. He never named her his Hand when she was an adult so she could prepare herself for the throne and being queen. Viserys was a good man but a terribly weak king.
Thank you, some people really give rhaenrya shit for her actions and decisions when it all falls back to her father who should’ve helped her better to make sure she would succeed but instead he set her up to fail by not preparing her better and remarrying to have more sons just for him to ignore all of them even his daughter heleana who’s a dreamer like him, don’t get me wrong viserys is better than being tyrant but he still messed up which made things a lot worse for his house! 😭💀
This is the show's fault. Rhaenyra was given a seat at the small council ever since she was named heir. In the books, she was groomed to rule and that's why she was secure enough to live in Dragonstone at 16.
@@rhaenyraitargaryen6360 that makes sense. Her not being given any responsability would be a major mistake anyone in the council would point out. GRR Martin wouldn't just miss such an important aspect of society. Showrunners on the other hand..
Even under male preference primogeniture, a lord’s daughter inherits ahead of his own younger brother. Thus Vaemond is just trying to steal Driftmark from Baela, Laena’s eldest daughter and rightful heir (if Rhaenyra’s sons aren’t actually Laenor’s)
@@NihilanthIn episode 7 Rhaenys discussed Baela and Rhaena were the true heirs. Baela and Rhaena are next to be heirs to diftmark despite being Daemons kids because they are laena’s children and next in line.
@@crystall.411 she said she wanted to, but Velaryons would never allow driftmark be pass to Targaryen, by making baela heir to driftmark, her children would've taken the name of her husband (from literally any house) and the Velaryon name would be gone
@@NihilanthBaela could have married a second son and keep her surname. It's not that difficult. And don't you expect Rhaenyra to be a feminist ruler ? So why are you using an misogynistic "argument" against the oldest daughter ?
a really good episode, other than the whole misunderstanding with Alicent/Viserys at the end, so contrived and forced, just to make sure that Alicent doesnt bear any blame or responsibility for what happens in the next episode
Daemon standing in the way of Aemond just like "Didn't you see me chop a head up earlier over this shit?" kills me everytime. The King I think was recalling him kneeling with Aemma in the bath where she asked that this be the last child. "No more, Viserys". He was reliving that conversation before his breathing stopped as he responded to it "No more" and then "my love". I assume we're meanted to assume Aemma was who he was seeing.
There were a total of five King Aegons in the Targaryen Dynasty. And there were quite a few additional family members who were given that name, but never became king. So that is why it wasn’t that strange for Rhaenyra to give her first born son with Daemon the name of the king who founded the Targaryen dynasty. At the same time it could be considered a bit of a dig at Alicent. I agree that the actor who is playing Aemond looks a bit too old for that role. Especially in comparison to the people they have cast as his siblings and nephews. He starred in the series The Last Kingdom, as a very different type of character. But he was excellent in that role, and I look forward to more of him as Aemond. This was an excellent episode with so many wonderful moments. I also really like the actor who plays Rhaenys. In the books, she has black hair with streaks of silver, because her mother was half Baratheon and half Velaryon. And her father was the oldest son of the king before Viserys. That is why in the very first episode, the Baratheon lord, who was competing in the jousting, called her cousin, and asked for her favor. Rhaenys also rides the fastest dragon, who we haven’t really seen much of yet. The dinner scene was lovely with everyone being civil to each other for once. It is nice to know that was the last memory that Viserys had with his family. Plus that touching moment between the two brothers when Daemon helped Viserys with his crown. I really liked how Jace and Helaena appeared to be having so much fun dancing together. It makes you realize how different things might have been, if Alicent had agreed to marry the two of them, when Rhaenyra had originally proposed it. This definitely was an amazing episode for the actor who played Viserys. He has been an amazing character, all season, and definitely more sympathetic than the same character in the books. I will miss him in the next season. The actor discussed this episode in a behind the scenes video. And he said that in that very final moment where he says, “my love,” he was definitely thinking about his first wife, Aemma as he died. And you were right in thinking that one of the primary reasons that he favored Rhaenyra so much is because of how much she reminded him of her mother.
I really love Rhaenys in this episode and I'm sorry that she doesn't have the strength to defend her position to the end. She adequately raised her granddaughter and perfectly demonstrated her stamina and intelligence. And Rhaenyra, despite the wonderful game of Emma, causes a burning rejection. If the question of the legality of the birth of her son had not been raised once again, there would have been no marriage between her sons and the granddaughters of Rhaenys. Over the years, she never visited her dying father, as if she had lived all this time behind the Wall. But when they arrived with Daemon in the capital, there were 1000 and 1 reason to criticize the conditions of government and maintenance of Viserys. Even at night, Viserys calls Rhaenyra Alicent's name. His wife honestly looked after him all these years, and poppy milk helped the old man live. If there are those who have cared for sick old people, you know what hell this is.
Her and Daemon hadn't come to see visarys in five years despite being only a 30 minute flight away. Had she not needed something from visarys now she never would have came at all. She hadn't been in the room for more than five minutes before she started asking him to help her. Then her and Daemon see visarys whos dying, and in who's in total agony. Due to his body is rotting away, and shes upset because Alicent is giving him pain medication. They were on Dragonstone for 5 years, during which Alicent had been lovingly taking care of a dying man who took her for granted. Visarys was weak and undeserving of Alicent's love and devotion.
I think this will be the last time jump. From what I understand, they wanted to age up the children before the next season so they wouldn't need to change actors in that season. Also, while I see Vaemond's point about the bloodline, I have 2 thoughts. First, his problem is solved by marrying Laena's children to Rhaenera's, as the children of those unions will have the Valeryon name from their fathers and the Valeryon blood from their mothers. Second, this isn't about the bloodlines or anything Vaemond has to say, it's about the fact that the KING says they're Laenor's children, so they ARE. By saying otherwise, no matter how much truth is on your side, you're going against the king's word.
"this is too calm too peaceful someone is gonna get their thdkst slit" No, none of that predictable sh*t. Nothing liket hsr would've fit the tone of the moment at all. Viserys last supper is as calm as it is uneventful. Nothing happens....and yet everything happens. It's the last moments of solitude and bliss. A despairing but futile attempt by two old friends separated by the men in their lives to mend a gulf that is about to swallow them whole. It's almost like a window to the world that could've been...and just like that it all gets torn asunder, never to come back again. That is the beauty of it all. The tragedy, the angst.
Hahaha yes but he was a big dummy for saying it out loud. You can see Otto's face - he can't believe it like "bro, we're not supposed to say it out loud, we just imply it sneakily."
He disrespected his brother's wish of passing driftmark to lucerys and if he was so concerned about his bloodline it gets solved with baela and rhaena marrying . He couldve petitioned for their children to also have the velaryon name just like luke and jace
In case no one told you, Vaemond is played by same actor who plays Joe Abernathy, Claire Fraser’s doctor friend. 😁 it took me a minute to realize it myself lol
You don't have to be over criston... What has he done just changed sides... The side which cared more about his life. And he's a great knight as well battle proven.
Vaemond was such a liar and proved Rhaenyra correct. It was about his own ambition after all. Since Rhaenys solved his issue by agreeing to Rhaenyra's proposal. That proposal ensures Driftmark stays in the Velaryons name & bloodline with the grandkids together & already having a close family bond. Plus Vaemonds anger towards Rhaenyra and Visery, when it was his own brother who chose Lucerys as his heir just as strongly. The difference in parenting & motherhood is like day and night with Rhaenyra. Rhaenyra truly was born to be an amazing loving mom, all her boys are a credit to her. Plus they've had some great male role models/fathers these past years. Harwin of course being one and Laenor claimed them as his own too, regardless of blood, he loved them. Even Step father Daemon has clearly played a part and earned their respect at least. Daemon actually takes them on as sons once he married his Rhaenyra. Love seeing the family reuniom scene too so moving seeing Visery in bed seeing Rhaenyra and Daemon after all these yrs, but became sweet too once Rhaenyra introduced Daemyra's 2 new sons Aegon and adorable silver curly locks, Visery II. Glad Visery at least got to meet them & experience some peace & happiness during the family feast.
In fact, both brothers of Velaryon became victims of their ambitions. One wanted power for his descendants, the other wanted to write his last name in history books and do not care that the authorities would no longer have their own blood. Rhaenyra only proposed marriage between Corlis's granddaughters and her children after the Driftmark began to slip out of her grasp. Prior to this, no proposals were received) So formally, the claims of brother Corlis are justified. It was about his house, which was to be headed by someone else's bastard.
@@alexass8987 Yes Rhaenyra's proposal came in this episode however Vaemond still heard it and had the chance to let things go now that the blood issue in the rule of Driftmark was solved. No he kept on arguing and saying the same thing when it didn't make sense anymore. The bloodline wasn't going to be ended, so his issue was solved.
She didn't solve a problem. Proposing to marry a bastards is an insult.Sybell Spicer, hardly a high noble, flies off the handle at the mere suggestion of Joy Hill, a bastard girl, being the promised bride for the still bottom-of-the-barrel Westerlings,
Aegon it's a common name between targaryens kings it's a great honor to be named aegon like the conqueror, there's a lot of targaryens kings called aegon
I agree, Rhaenys does look a little like Jennifer Aniston, I think it's in the shape of her face & placement of the eyes. Interesting sound shift at 29:00 🤔
Rhaegar had 2 sons named Aegon I believe. Jon Snow, and the son he had with Elia. Sadly he died with mother, and sister, at hand of the Mountain when Tywin's forces sacked King's Landing, at the tail end of Robert's Rebellion.
I don't believe that's book canon (at least not yet... when/if Winds of Winter comes out we may get an answer) it's something specific to the show, but while many names are repeated, such as both Alicent and Rhaenyra having a son named Aegon, I don't recall a name being used multiple times with the same father (in this case Rhaegar) even with different mothers. I have my own theories about what it will be in the books, but I doubt that Jon's true name will be Aegon in the books.
16:00 Vaemond is very dumb, because Rhaenyra also has Velaryon blood through her great-grandfather Old King Jaehaerys Targaryen and her great-grandmother Queen Alyssane Targaryen. The mother of Jaehaerys and Alyssane was Alyssa Velaryon who married the only son of Aegon I The Conqueror Targaryen and Queen Rhaenys Targaryen who was Aenys I Targaryen. The mother of Aegon I and Visenya and Rhaenys was also a Velaryon. Vaemond should have studied the family better instead of making accusations against Rhaenyra and saying that she does not know Velaryon blood when in fact Rhaenyra has Targaryen blood as well as Velaryon blood.
No one outside of the audience and Daemon/Rhaenyra know this. Not only that targaryens are allowed to marry in tradition of old valyria and take a second lover which is what Aegon and sisters did. If you were to say Rhaenyras children with Daemon are bastards then all of Aegon the conquerors children should be bastards too. Also it does not really matter because once they are king the can legitimize themselves though with the Strong kings why it is much harder is because their appearance and Alicent/Otto spreading rumors.
@@arobin6695 not imo that singing to the Dragon was epic and when he burns the dad and Son alive is top tier then he cuts the blokes head in half in episode 8 all this happens after episode 6
The crown falling off and being picked up by Daemon and then him helping his brother was not scripted. It just happened and they went with it because it was so touching.
id think she named him aegon because of aegons dream, if she doesnt then the dream doesnt apply to her. basically means alicents aegon is the one mentioned in the dream.
@@Nihilanththe only people i see making video edits of him and posts praising him are women who only like him because of the actor. liking or supporting a fictional male character in a fictional story doesnt mean you hate women.
@@arobin6695 it's not about liking a character or not, and u know that. I do enjoy Aegon's character. I like Aemond and I love Daeron. the problem is, people who support Aegon's claim ALWAYS use the "he's the rightful heir cause he has a cock" argument. book fans fat-shame Rhaenyra, call her names: bitch, whore of dragonstone, etc. and for what? you can dislike Rhaenyra without being misogynist, but that's not enough for them.
cause its a slight against alicents children, By naming her sons Aegon and Viserys after the kings she is saying that the legitimacy is hers, Not the greens.
@@kimcottingham8043Alicent doesnt want to put her son on the throne, she feels she has to or else Rhaenrya and Daemon will kill him to remove the threat he poses. She is encouraged in that belief after it appears they murder Laenor and Vaemond and after their kids attacked and mutilated Alicent's son without being punished or reprimanded at all. She has every reason to think her kids wont be safe with Rhaenyra and Daemon in power.
By far my favourite episode of the season. Especially the scene with Viserys walking into the throne room. It is so moving every time I see it.
5:30 they’re setting up House Caswell because they’re going to be important: basically they’re from the north of the Reach and the Hightowers are from the south of the Reach, both Tyrell vassals, but the Caswells don’t like how the Hightowers act as if they’re the overlords of the entire Reach when they’re not.
This is the most outstanding episode. The acting is off the charts perfection ❤
25:54 IMO, George created the same character just on opposite sides. Just look at their names. They’re anagrams of each other:
Aemond (move the ‘D’ to the front) =
Daemon
My favorite episode of HotD so far. Paddy Considine was on his own level in this episode. His performance as Viserys is gonna be remembered for a long time ❤
I think so too! he was awesome :)
"Hail to the King."
-Bruce Campbell
I don't know if anyone has said this, but your glasses compliment your face SOOO much. Like it's crazy how good they look on you.
One reason Aegon is smaller then Aemond is because Aegons been an alcoholic for years through puberty that would impact his growth
Daemon whispering "Say it.." is so sinister. He was just itching to decapitate Vaemond. 25:24 I love the way Daemon defuses the situation with one finger at Rhaenyra's sons and a look at Aemond
16:47 Vicerys’ final walk to the throne was so epic. Best musical track of the series. ❤😢 And the loving look that he shared with his daughter! I can’t!
4:02 - Yes, that's true. However, Vaemond gives his true intentions away by selecting himself. If Lucerys is a bastard then the next in line to Driftmark would be the children of Laena Velaryon and Daemon because a son comes before a daughter but a daughter comes before an uncle. So the fact that he wants to claim Dirftmark himself over them gives away his real ambitions which are either purely or mostly personal.
Yeah so many people get upset because they think Vaemond is the heir. They forget that it's like how Casterly Rock would go to Cersei before Tywin's brother.
@@sproductionsinc Yeah he was too ambitious. I think Baela then would need to take her mothers name. Due to Daemon she is a Targaryen. But I think this would have been possible. Jace was going to change his name from Velaryon to Targaryen as well.
19:34 He said it with his whole chest. I honestly respect it. That was a stupid thing to do, but it was brave.🤣
You were very accurate with the understanding that he saw Aemma in Rhaenyra
show did well to ensure vaemond went on saying what he said instead of backing down, even though he knew there wont be a good outcome for him. he for one is not taking injustice of entitled tyrants passively. and this is an instance where making his house black fits rather well. scene is full of various subtextual nuances and allusions.
viserys is a well written and acted instance of a horrible father and king, who deceives himself that he is well meaning, but really isn't. he is well meaning only to his daughter, to others, including his children by alicent, alicent herself, and his subjects, he is opposite of well meaning . he is a horrible father, husband and king. foreseeable consequences of his actions prove that clearly
also prophecy can be misleading. that prophecy was probably made intentionally to destroy targs and dragons.
I find it rather appalling Viserys named Rhaenyra his heir and then spent the rest of his life doing nothing to groom her for the role. He didn't give her a seat at the Small Council as an advisor to learn. He didn't give her any responsibilities to test and build herself. He never named her his Hand when she was an adult so she could prepare herself for the throne and being queen. Viserys was a good man but a terribly weak king.
Thank you, some people really give rhaenrya shit for her actions and decisions when it all falls back to her father who should’ve helped her better to make sure she would succeed but instead he set her up to fail by not preparing her better and remarrying to have more sons just for him to ignore all of them even his daughter heleana who’s a dreamer like him, don’t get me wrong viserys is better than being tyrant but he still messed up which made things a lot worse for his house! 😭💀
This is the show's fault. Rhaenyra was given a seat at the small council ever since she was named heir. In the books, she was groomed to rule and that's why she was secure enough to live in Dragonstone at 16.
@@rhaenyraitargaryen6360 that makes sense. Her not being given any responsability would be a major mistake anyone in the council would point out. GRR Martin wouldn't just miss such an important aspect of society. Showrunners on the other hand..
Didn't he keep peace in the realm, though?
@@sproductionsincbecause he postponed the war.
9:30 Alicent gave the Handmaid that Abortion tea, not poison
Even under male preference primogeniture, a lord’s daughter inherits ahead of his own younger brother. Thus Vaemond is just trying to steal Driftmark from Baela, Laena’s eldest daughter and rightful heir (if Rhaenyra’s sons aren’t actually Laenor’s)
baela is not the rightful heir to driftmark, she's a Targaryen.
if Luke and Joffrey didn't exist, vaemond would be the rightful heir
@@NihilanthIn episode 7 Rhaenys discussed Baela and Rhaena were the true heirs. Baela and Rhaena are next to be heirs to diftmark despite being Daemons kids because they are laena’s children and next in line.
@@crystall.411 she said she wanted to, but Velaryons would never allow driftmark be pass to Targaryen, by making baela heir to driftmark, her children would've taken the name of her husband (from literally any house) and the Velaryon name would be gone
@@crystall.411 well, in episode 8 she agree to pass driftmark to Luke, so...
@@NihilanthBaela could have married a second son and keep her surname. It's not that difficult. And don't you expect Rhaenyra to be a feminist ruler ? So why are you using an misogynistic "argument" against the oldest daughter ?
a really good episode, other than the whole misunderstanding with Alicent/Viserys at the end, so contrived and forced, just to make sure that Alicent doesnt bear any blame or responsibility for what happens in the next episode
Daemon standing in the way of Aemond just like "Didn't you see me chop a head up earlier over this shit?" kills me everytime.
The King I think was recalling him kneeling with Aemma in the bath where she asked that this be the last child. "No more, Viserys". He was reliving that conversation before his breathing stopped as he responded to it "No more" and then "my love". I assume we're meanted to assume Aemma was who he was seeing.
There were a total of five King Aegons in the Targaryen Dynasty. And there were quite a few additional family members who were given that name, but never became king. So that is why it wasn’t that strange for Rhaenyra to give her first born son with Daemon the name of the king who founded the Targaryen dynasty. At the same time it could be considered a bit of a dig at Alicent. I agree that the actor who is playing Aemond looks a bit too old for that role. Especially in comparison to the people they have cast as his siblings and nephews. He starred in the series The Last Kingdom, as a very different type of character. But he was excellent in that role, and I look forward to more of him as Aemond. This was an excellent episode with so many wonderful moments. I also really like the actor who plays Rhaenys. In the books, she has black hair with streaks of silver, because her mother was half Baratheon and half Velaryon. And her father was the oldest son of the king before Viserys. That is why in the very first episode, the Baratheon lord, who was competing in the jousting, called her cousin, and asked for her favor. Rhaenys also rides the fastest dragon, who we haven’t really seen much of yet. The dinner scene was lovely with everyone being civil to each other for once. It is nice to know that was the last memory that Viserys had with his family. Plus that touching moment between the two brothers when Daemon helped Viserys with his crown. I really liked how Jace and Helaena appeared to be having so much fun dancing together. It makes you realize how different things might have been, if Alicent had agreed to marry the two of them, when Rhaenyra had originally proposed it. This definitely was an amazing episode for the actor who played Viserys. He has been an amazing character, all season, and definitely more sympathetic than the same character in the books. I will miss him in the next season. The actor discussed this episode in a behind the scenes video. And he said that in that very final moment where he says, “my love,” he was definitely thinking about his first wife, Aemma as he died. And you were right in thinking that one of the primary reasons that he favored Rhaenyra so much is because of how much she reminded him of her mother.
I really love Rhaenys in this episode and I'm sorry that she doesn't have the strength to defend her position to the end. She adequately raised her granddaughter and perfectly demonstrated her stamina and intelligence. And Rhaenyra, despite the wonderful game of Emma, causes a burning rejection. If the question of the legality of the birth of her son had not been raised once again, there would have been no marriage between her sons and the granddaughters of Rhaenys. Over the years, she never visited her dying father, as if she had lived all this time behind the Wall. But when they arrived with Daemon in the capital, there were 1000 and 1 reason to criticize the conditions of government and maintenance of Viserys. Even at night, Viserys calls Rhaenyra Alicent's name. His wife honestly looked after him all these years, and poppy milk helped the old man live. If there are those who have cared for sick old people, you know what hell this is.
Her and Daemon hadn't come to see visarys in five years despite being only a 30 minute flight away. Had she not needed something from visarys now she never would have came at all. She hadn't been in the room for more than five minutes before she started asking him to help her. Then her and Daemon
see visarys whos dying, and in who's in total agony. Due to his body is rotting away, and shes upset because Alicent is giving him pain medication.
They were on Dragonstone for 5 years, during which Alicent had been lovingly taking care of a dying man who took her for granted.
Visarys was weak and undeserving of Alicent's love and devotion.
I think this will be the last time jump. From what I understand, they wanted to age up the children before the next season so they wouldn't need to change actors in that season.
Also, while I see Vaemond's point about the bloodline, I have 2 thoughts. First, his problem is solved by marrying Laena's children to Rhaenera's, as the children of those unions will have the Valeryon name from their fathers and the Valeryon blood from their mothers. Second, this isn't about the bloodlines or anything Vaemond has to say, it's about the fact that the KING says they're Laenor's children, so they ARE. By saying otherwise, no matter how much truth is on your side, you're going against the king's word.
"this is too calm too peaceful someone is gonna get their thdkst slit"
No, none of that predictable sh*t. Nothing liket hsr would've fit the tone of the moment at all. Viserys last supper is as calm as it is uneventful. Nothing happens....and yet everything happens. It's the last moments of solitude and bliss. A despairing but futile attempt by two old friends separated by the men in their lives to mend a gulf that is about to swallow them whole. It's almost like a window to the world that could've been...and just like that it all gets torn asunder, never to come back again. That is the beauty of it all. The tragedy, the angst.
Ah! Happy to see this extraordinary episode. I've just caught up watching your delightful reactions, so... Thanks. Here we go! :)
Vaemond did nothing wrong.
I totally agree, but unfortunately the very moment he started speaking the truth in front of the king, he was doomed.
Hahaha yes but he was a big dummy for saying it out loud. You can see Otto's face - he can't believe it like "bro, we're not supposed to say it out loud, we just imply it sneakily."
He disrespected his brother's wish of passing driftmark to lucerys and if he was so concerned about his bloodline it gets solved with baela and rhaena marrying . He couldve petitioned for their children to also have the velaryon name just like luke and jace
You're the only female reactor I've seen who doesn't drool over Aemond. 😄
Your reaction to Vaemond’s speech and what happened next 😂.
In case no one told you, Vaemond is played by same actor who plays Joe Abernathy, Claire Fraser’s doctor friend. 😁 it took me a minute to realize it myself lol
I would’ve never recognized him omg!!!
Aemond is the 4th born , after Rhaenyra, Aegon, Haelena.
3:37 Rhaenyra and Daemon had Aegon III and Viserys II
SPOILERS. You don't get a numeral after your name until or unless you are crowned. For example, Dany's brother is not Viserys III.
You don't have to be over criston... What has he done just changed sides... The side which cared more about his life. And he's a great knight as well battle proven.
This episode have some great scenes! I agree often the second watch is better than the first one.
Don't forget to pay attention to Heleana, the DRAGON DREAMER. ✌️
Vaemond was such a liar and proved Rhaenyra correct. It was about his own ambition after all. Since Rhaenys solved his issue by agreeing to Rhaenyra's proposal. That proposal ensures Driftmark stays in the Velaryons name & bloodline with the grandkids together & already having a close family bond.
Plus Vaemonds anger towards Rhaenyra and Visery, when it was his own brother who chose Lucerys as his heir just as strongly.
The difference in parenting & motherhood is like day and night with Rhaenyra. Rhaenyra truly was born to be an amazing loving mom, all her boys are a credit to her. Plus they've had some great male role models/fathers these past years. Harwin of course being one and Laenor claimed them as his own too, regardless of blood, he loved them. Even Step father Daemon has clearly played a part and earned their respect at least. Daemon actually takes them on as sons once he married his Rhaenyra.
Love seeing the family reuniom scene too so moving seeing Visery in bed seeing Rhaenyra and Daemon after all these yrs, but became sweet too once Rhaenyra introduced Daemyra's 2 new sons Aegon and adorable silver curly locks, Visery II.
Glad Visery at least got to meet them & experience some peace & happiness during the family feast.
In fact, both brothers of Velaryon became victims of their ambitions. One wanted power for his descendants, the other wanted to write his last name in history books and do not care that the authorities would no longer have their own blood. Rhaenyra only proposed marriage between Corlis's granddaughters and her children after the Driftmark began to slip out of her grasp. Prior to this, no proposals were received) So formally, the claims of brother Corlis are justified. It was about his house, which was to be headed by someone else's bastard.
@@alexass8987 Yes Rhaenyra's proposal came in this episode however Vaemond still heard it and had the chance to let things go now that the blood issue in the rule of Driftmark was solved. No he kept on arguing and saying the same thing when it didn't make sense anymore. The bloodline wasn't going to be ended, so his issue was solved.
She didn't solve a problem. Proposing to marry a bastards is an insult.Sybell Spicer, hardly a high noble, flies off the handle at the mere suggestion of Joy Hill, a bastard girl, being the promised bride for the still bottom-of-the-barrel Westerlings,
Aegon it's a common name between targaryens kings it's a great honor to be named aegon like the conqueror, there's a lot of targaryens kings called aegon
You know as well as I Rhaenyra named him that to piss off Alicent. 😄
He is here.
I agree, Rhaenys does look a little like Jennifer Aniston, I think it's in the shape of her face & placement of the eyes.
Interesting sound shift at 29:00 🤔
yeah she really does!! & I know, my mic disconnected sorryyyy
Rhaegar had 2 sons named Aegon I believe. Jon Snow, and the son he had with Elia. Sadly he died with mother, and sister, at hand of the Mountain when Tywin's forces sacked King's Landing, at the tail end of Robert's Rebellion.
I don't believe that's book canon (at least not yet... when/if Winds of Winter comes out we may get an answer) it's something specific to the show, but while many names are repeated, such as both Alicent and Rhaenyra having a son named Aegon, I don't recall a name being used multiple times with the same father (in this case Rhaegar) even with different mothers. I have my own theories about what it will be in the books, but I doubt that Jon's true name will be Aegon in the books.
Yeah none of that is book canon. We do not know for sure that Aegon died and we do not know what Jon's real name is.
16:00 Vaemond is very dumb, because Rhaenyra also has Velaryon blood through her great-grandfather Old King Jaehaerys Targaryen and her great-grandmother Queen Alyssane Targaryen. The mother of Jaehaerys and Alyssane was Alyssa Velaryon who married the only son of Aegon I The Conqueror Targaryen and Queen Rhaenys Targaryen who was Aenys I Targaryen. The mother of Aegon I and Visenya and Rhaenys was also a Velaryon. Vaemond should have studied the family better instead of making accusations against Rhaenyra and saying that she does not know Velaryon blood when in fact Rhaenyra has Targaryen blood as well as Velaryon blood.
Am I wrong to say that all 5 of Rhanyeera's kids are bastards because Rhanyeera$ marriage to Daemon is not legit
No one outside of the audience and Daemon/Rhaenyra know this. Not only that targaryens are allowed to marry in tradition of old valyria and take a second lover which is what Aegon and sisters did. If you were to say Rhaenyras children with Daemon are bastards then all of Aegon the conquerors children should be bastards too. Also it does not really matter because once they are king the can legitimize themselves though with the Strong kings why it is much harder is because their appearance and Alicent/Otto spreading rumors.
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Matt Smith aka Daemon is MVP in this show
for the first half of the season, he gets really boring from episode 6 onwards
@@arobin6695 not imo that singing to the Dragon was epic and when he burns the dad and Son alive is top tier then he cuts the blokes head in half in episode 8 all this happens after episode 6
Finally someone else who picked up on lesbian vibes between Rhaenyra and alicent in the beginning! i thought i was the only one
There are no lesbian vibes. Two women can be close without being lovers. Rhaenyra has always loved Daemon.
honestly i would pay ekstra for hearing Viserys say: "Get the fuck up from my fucking chair"... good one haha 😂
did you say "milk of the puppy"? lol
Bravo.
Rhaenyra to me is much like her father and would make a wonderful queen. Not a fan of allicent at all especially after this episode.
Rhaenyras nickname tells you exactly what kind of queen she is.
The crown falling off and being picked up by Daemon and then him helping his brother was not scripted. It just happened and they went with it because it was so touching.
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This was the first episode where I cried❤😅
Rhaenera naming her son Aegon is a slight against Alicents children saying that Rhaenera's children are true Targaryens and the legitimate heirs.
They’re not
But they are not legitimate😂
@@alexass8987 exactly
@@Heisenberg882 exactly
id think she named him aegon because of aegons dream, if she doesnt then the dream doesnt apply to her. basically means alicents aegon is the one mentioned in the dream.
To me, Aegon is a disgusting character too, and I'm shocked that there are people who support him
starts with M and it ends with isogyny
@@Nihilanth 99% of the people online who support Aegon are women who think the actor is hot
@@arobin6695 I wouldn't say 99%... not even 50%.
but, surprise! women can also be Misogynist
@@Nihilanththe only people i see making video edits of him and posts praising him are women who only like him because of the actor. liking or supporting a fictional male character in a fictional story doesnt mean you hate women.
@@arobin6695 it's not about liking a character or not, and u know that.
I do enjoy Aegon's character. I like Aemond and I love Daeron. the problem is, people who support Aegon's claim ALWAYS use the "he's the rightful heir cause he has a cock" argument.
book fans fat-shame Rhaenyra, call her names: bitch, whore of dragonstone, etc. and for what?
you can dislike Rhaenyra without being misogynist, but that's not enough for them.
Why wouldn't she call him Aegon? Alicent did not come up with the first one's name, there have been a lot of Aegons.
I just thought it was funny
Yeah Alicent's was the second, Rhaenera's was the third, and that one character from GOT was the sixth I believe.
cause its a slight against alicents children, By naming her sons Aegon and Viserys after the kings she is saying that the legitimacy is hers, Not the greens.
Allicent’s jealousy of rhaenyra has her wanting to put a rapist on the throne. Disgusting
@@kimcottingham8043Alicent doesnt want to put her son on the throne, she feels she has to or else Rhaenrya and Daemon will kill him to remove the threat he poses. She is encouraged in that belief after it appears they murder Laenor and Vaemond and after their kids attacked and mutilated Alicent's son without being punished or reprimanded at all. She has every reason to think her kids wont be safe with Rhaenyra and Daemon in power.