Have you ever considered using Teardown as a benchtest game? The graphics are quite simple, but it has a ton of physics going on, so can be quite demanding.
HD 7750 also had two versions, one with GDDR5 and one with GDDR3 memory, and the difference between them because of the bandwidth is really huge, they could be named differently as GDDR3 version is a whole tier slower. Funny thing is there is also a GDDR3 version of HD 7770 which because of that slow memory is in many scenarios slower than a "lower tier" HD 7750 with GDDR5 memory.
R7 250 OEM cards are going for around $13 on eBay in the US and it performs about the same as the R9 255. Two quid is a unicorn price. It is sort of like the 0.25p 5850 in a recent Budget Builds Official video. Unrealistic to expect to get one that cheap. Would be fun if you started trying Lossless Scaling on these cheap, old GPUs. I've been playing FH4 at 1440p60 on a GTX 670 SC with 2x LS1 scaling and 2x LSFG 2.1. So the GPU is actually rendering the game at 720p30. A neat feature, which I will probably try soon by adding in my 560 Ti 448, is that you can offload the overhead for scaling and frame gen to a second GPU.
According to my brief research attempt I just did, that is roughly the same performance of the AMD Ryzen 3 2300U and it's Vega 6 iGPU. I think these videos are incredibly important and useful. It shows how easy and affordable it _can_ be to just have a little fun with aging hardware. I've actually just disassembled and cleaned up my Ryzen 2600x/B450 system so I can get it sold off while I can still get a reasonable price for them. And I've actually put my RX 470 back into my old standby Dell Dimension mATX tower pc with its Q9500 core2quad cpu, to use temporarily while I wait for the Zen5 & B850 hardware to arrive. And to my surprise, for daily use, it's just fine. In fact I'm typing out this comment with it.
@@Safetytrousers Despite what many people think, playing games in low resolutions and with low frame rates isn't always a barrier to enjoyment. If a game is good, you can soon get past such limitations. It's like reading a good novel... they don't even have pictures, but you still enjoy an immersive story.
6:58 I'm sure we all had a magazine that looked like that growing up. ;) Since you've got a £2 GPU why not try pair it up with a £2 CPU £2 MoBo £2 of RAM giving us a sub £10 build. That would be one hell of a scavenger hunt build to throw together.
It's all cool, but many iGPUs from 13 years ago also were able to play games. Intel HD2000 from sandy bridge CPUs could play 2000-2006 games, and AMD's later APUs could run big titles, though at 800x600 30fps lowest settings (but in a era where 1440p was too expensive and 1080p was a mid range resolution, most played at sub 1080p). IMO, it is all the same, just that new iGPUs can run many titles and 1080p is now a resolution for the poor.
@@AlistairBrugsch Integrated graphics were rarely targeted at anything other than office and productivity applications, with a limited ability to play contemporary games. Given the choice of playing older games at low settings using IGs, or not playing them at all... I'd choose the IGs. But then, as a kid we had an original Atari VCS for gaming, and my first computer was a Sinclair ZX81 with 16K ram pack. So in comparison, today's "low" resolutions and frame rates aren't too bad. As long as it plays at > 15fps, I don't mind. 😂
@@another3997 "my" first computer was my dad's Apple II (clone - Franklin Ace 1200 - an interesting machine, look it up) but my own first comp was a C64 (and also a VCS woody 😉 which I despised, yet for some reason I have acquired another!) eventually followed by an Amiga 500 (also still have that) so I totally hear you on the low Res thing. It totally blows me away when 1080p gets called potato. Sure 4K is amazing but.... Sheesh. Perspective.
Still WAY better than I expected. I had "GTAV at 15fps 720p low" expectations. Even getting RDR2 and Cyberpunk go boot is a feat here. It kind of shows how many write-off 8, 9 and 10 series cards too soon. If you just want 720p High and even some 1080p gaming you can do it easily on cards you can get for $25-50 now.
😒 I looked it up, its close to an HD 7750 tho an HD 7750 has DDR5 memory which will make a difference in some games, you can pickup a 7750 or 7770 2GB for 20 bucks shipped, all these cards have amernimezone drivers too
@@betag24cn The GT 730 (2GB), GT 1030 (2GB), and RX 550 (2GB or 4GB low profile) can run anything from the Xbox 360/PS3 era and earlier. And there are ALOTTA great games from that era.
Am I the only one who watches these videos just to watch RGHD to get wiped in CS2? LOL...great video. Love to see the old cards to get videos done about them.
2 quid for a basic video adapter you can't argue really. Want to add an old VGA monitor? 2Quid. Add an extra HDMI output? 2 Quid. I have an ancient 7.1 sound card in my PC to output to an amp, cost precisely zero Quid (found it in a friend's e-waste), pisses all over the on board output and is more "muscular" than modern DACs plugged into my separates system. Old tech has it's place, sometimes it's place will surprise you. I've literally only heard your voice through this soundcard since Nov 2019. 😎
@@RandomGaminginHD So HP/Dell/Lenovo can put "R9 Graphics!" on the outside of the box. I've got an "R9 360" that's just an R7 360 with an OEM-grade heatsink and fan.
Great video once again. Very usefull but you know what. It might sound goofy but if you guys could hook up together as a OG tech spot with dawid does tech stuff as i see you guys sometimes in the comms sections of each other's vids. That would be bad ass.
Major news here is that forza horizon 4 gets delisted on December!!!! Loved that game on gamepass and never finished it. I'll have to pick it up next time it's on sale
I just sold a card with DDR3 memory that I inadvertently purchased because I didn't properly read the packaging that said "DDR3". It is an XFX R7 240 4GB in the original box with the cellophane still on the card itself. I sold it for what I paid for it at $35 US. Testing on it compared to my other cards was abysmal even on low setting. I feel fortunate to have made my money back on it.
Pass the parcel.. except you don't want the prize 😂 Selling it for what you paid for it is just leaving someone else holding the bag 😉 I would try to discourage (tell them how bad it is) anyone trying to buy it from me and sell it for much less. Maybe give it to the Op Shop (Goodwill Store).
@@peterpan408 - I left nothing out of the description that clearly stated DDR3 memory so people know what they're getting. Due to me not knowing the differences between DDR3 and DDR5, I purchased it and learned a lesson from the experience to pay attention to the item details next time. If someone else did the same as I, then the same valuable lesson was passed on.
It is a blurry mess. But dude, I have played Delta Force 2 on a black and white 14 inch CRT monitor and some resolution under 640x480 (something like 400x300 but not exactly that). Or NFS 5 with minimum details 640x480 and 17 FPS. With that I learned to drive.
I have a suggestion: You could include a game that supports software renderer to your list. I think it could be interesting to see if the graphics card is better than using the remaining power of the processor.
I never heard of this card tbh. I have owned a few OEM cards, especially AMD and have never come across info for this. I like looking at old OEM hardware, it's all interesting and most is pretty cheap nowadays. Making great novelty items for us nerds.
If the FPS bothers you, do what Nvidia does. Pretend the card has frame generation and mentally double the FPS. Nvida just makes extra frames and counts them, for the FPS dependant of us.
"Your eyeballs can rest". Except for me, who is watching this on a 13 year old Dell Inspiron 1764 laptop I got for free a few days ago from my grandpa and installed Linux on. Old first gen i3 with 8GB of RAM. Watching in anything higher than 480p pegs the CPU at 100% and the video refuses to play lol. The crazy thing is that the battery still works fine. Don't worry, I have far better machines. I just love saving stuff from e-waste and repurposing it and messing around with them, even if I already have plenty of machines. I'm sure anybody who watches this channel understands that sentiment lol.
I wonder how many monitors one could run on a mining motherboard with several garbage GPU on it.. If games could SLI across several GPU, we could get to 8K+. The driver/bus burden may be unpleasant.
0:05 I instantly recognised that card. I had one in an ASUS ROG G20 paired with an A10-7800 and it actually was setup to run in crossfire with the on board APU Graphics. So maybe you could test it with an APU like an A10-7850K.
Hey lots of love and support to your videos I am fan for 3 years but since the last incident with Intel cause stability issues and problems could you use a bench with AMD Ryzen ? Even an budget cpu would be more than enough
You should get FH4 on the Xbox PC version in case you ever wanted to use a wheel and shifter..... Some reason the steam version never worked with wheels n ffb settings idk why...... It's dang fun on a wheel to
I think we have to remember that this is not a gaming GPU so the fact that it's running these games, in some cases very trying to run these games, it's not a bad card.
I might have a very old Graphics Card from like 2010, that has a DVI slot but no HDMI on it. That I used a DVI to HDMI cable on. If you think you can get use out of it...
20fps per pound, not bad
Haha when you put it like that it doesn’t sound bad at all
real budget gaming
A good card for old games pre 2019.
@@darren253 yeah maybe, 720p low with older games could work
These sorts of videos are so fun, just random cheap pieces of hardware!
Ah yes, peak gaming just dropped.
Nice.
😁
This actually did better than I expected
average school computer gpu:
You mean best?
Your school had computers?
School computer have GPUs?????
GPUs weren't even invented when I went to school. 286's were regulars (RM Nimbus's) with a few 386's in the newer machines...
@@i_cant_hear_a_word_you_say Yes....iGPUs
Perfect for a Windows XP setup
Agree HTTPC and games pre 2019.
Have you ever considered using Teardown as a benchtest game? The graphics are quite simple, but it has a ton of physics going on, so can be quite demanding.
It could be a solid CPU test
The game is fun. I suppose the trick is to try and keep a repeatable run each time. That's quite hard in a sandbox game like that.
Fun fact: this card is just a rebranded and very slightly overclocked HD 7750. I should know, I had one for a (gladly) very short time.
HD 7750 also had two versions, one with GDDR5 and one with GDDR3 memory, and the difference between them because of the bandwidth is really huge, they could be named differently as GDDR3 version is a whole tier slower.
Funny thing is there is also a GDDR3 version of HD 7770 which because of that slow memory is in many scenarios slower than a "lower tier" HD 7750 with GDDR5 memory.
@@mruczyslaw50 Both were GCN 1.0. A gift that has given so very much over the years.
I still have my HD7750, a low profile, half height model by sapphire, with GDDR5 memory I think. It was a little trooper!
i have my hd 6670 still, its dead but when it still worked i overclocked it
@@zacharyirizarry8589 Mine is still working. a fall back card when I need to just boot something. Not quite finished with it yet.
He got CrowdStriked during testing, lmao.
@@MrEdioss Either that or he's running McAffee. Apparently the CTO of McAffee works as CEO of CrowdStrike 🤣
R7 250 OEM cards are going for around $13 on eBay in the US and it performs about the same as the R9 255. Two quid is a unicorn price. It is sort of like the 0.25p 5850 in a recent Budget Builds Official video. Unrealistic to expect to get one that cheap.
Would be fun if you started trying Lossless Scaling on these cheap, old GPUs. I've been playing FH4 at 1440p60 on a GTX 670 SC with 2x LS1 scaling and 2x LSFG 2.1. So the GPU is actually rendering the game at 720p30. A neat feature, which I will probably try soon by adding in my 560 Ti 448, is that you can offload the overhead for scaling and frame gen to a second GPU.
Lossless frame gen makes these cards suffer in my experience
According to my brief research attempt I just did, that is roughly the same performance of the AMD Ryzen 3 2300U and it's Vega 6 iGPU.
I think these videos are incredibly important and useful. It shows how easy and affordable it _can_ be to just have a little fun with aging hardware.
I've actually just disassembled and cleaned up my Ryzen 2600x/B450 system so I can get it sold off while I can still get a reasonable price for them. And I've actually put my RX 470 back into my old standby Dell Dimension mATX tower pc with its Q9500 core2quad cpu, to use temporarily while I wait for the Zen5 & B850 hardware to arrive. And to my surprise, for daily use, it's just fine. In fact I'm typing out this comment with it.
I'm not sure how fun this would be.
@@Safetytrousers Despite what many people think, playing games in low resolutions and with low frame rates isn't always a barrier to enjoyment. If a game is good, you can soon get past such limitations. It's like reading a good novel... they don't even have pictures, but you still enjoy an immersive story.
@@Safetytrousersi have a potato so i play mosly at 30fps and its pretty fun
6:58 I'm sure we all had a magazine that looked like that growing up. ;)
Since you've got a £2 GPU why not try pair it up with a £2 CPU £2 MoBo £2 of RAM giving us a sub £10 build. That would be one hell of a scavenger hunt build to throw together.
Fallout PC after The Nuke: Apocalypse
This thing playing FO4 at all is impressive.
Must be new here.
LOL Cyberpunk Looks like a PS1 FMV HILARIOUS and a bit nostalgic XD
Shame you can't get your hands on an old CRT monitor. These would probably look like much better.
Reminds me of my once Radeon HD Sapphire 4850, I loved that card.
To think that there are CPUs with iGPUs performing better than a GPU released 10 years ago… wonder what PCs in 10 more years will look like
Yeah exactly pretty impressive how far things have come igpu wise
iGPU was always a hallmark of shame (nVidia nForce being the first exception to that)
It's all cool, but many iGPUs from 13 years ago also were able to play games. Intel HD2000 from sandy bridge CPUs could play 2000-2006 games, and AMD's later APUs could run big titles, though at 800x600 30fps lowest settings (but in a era where 1440p was too expensive and 1080p was a mid range resolution, most played at sub 1080p). IMO, it is all the same, just that new iGPUs can run many titles and 1080p is now a resolution for the poor.
@@AlistairBrugsch Integrated graphics were rarely targeted at anything other than office and productivity applications, with a limited ability to play contemporary games. Given the choice of playing older games at low settings using IGs, or not playing them at all... I'd choose the IGs. But then, as a kid we had an original Atari VCS for gaming, and my first computer was a Sinclair ZX81 with 16K ram pack. So in comparison, today's "low" resolutions and frame rates aren't too bad. As long as it plays at > 15fps, I don't mind. 😂
@@another3997 "my" first computer was my dad's Apple II (clone - Franklin Ace 1200 - an interesting machine, look it up) but my own first comp was a C64 (and also a VCS woody 😉 which I despised, yet for some reason I have acquired another!) eventually followed by an Amiga 500 (also still have that) so I totally hear you on the low Res thing. It totally blows me away when 1080p gets called potato. Sure 4K is amazing but.... Sheesh. Perspective.
perfect card for 8k raytracing.
Man I really enjoy such videos of your. Keep it up mate ! 💯
I have a last gen Dell inspiron Laptop so your videos have came in really helpful for me. I've always appreciated your videos.
Putting ddr3 to this card should be a crime against humanity
well so does DDR4 but then the gt1030 is maybe gonna be found inside some thrown out prebuilt that owners won't care😅😅😅
the real crime here is the gpu being included in the R9 series
Still WAY better than I expected. I had "GTAV at 15fps 720p low" expectations.
Even getting RDR2 and Cyberpunk go boot is a feat here.
It kind of shows how many write-off 8, 9 and 10 series cards too soon. If you just want 720p High and even some 1080p gaming you can do it easily on cards you can get for $25-50 now.
😒 I looked it up, its close to an HD 7750 tho an HD 7750 has DDR5 memory which will make a difference in some games, you can pickup a 7750 or 7770 2GB for 20 bucks shipped, all these cards have amernimezone drivers too
I checked the R9 255 OEM's specs on Tech Powered Up and it makes the ol' Nvidia GT 1030 2GB (low profile) look like a beast.
i played alot of games on a gt 1030, it wasnt a gmaing gpu, but i could play alot of games at 900 and 720p, i even sold it, and i need it now 😂
@@betag24cn The GT 730 (2GB), GT 1030 (2GB), and RX 550 (2GB or 4GB low profile) can run anything from the Xbox 360/PS3 era and earlier. And there are ALOTTA great games from that era.
@@natejennings5884 true, a gt 1030, fanless is a great gpu to have for such needs
I can't complain much about the GT 1030 LP Passive heatsink model.
Silent modern graphics for SFF shitboxes (Haswell i5).
on the bright side, this would go well in a Windows Vista/7 era gaming PC.
Am I the only one who watches these videos just to watch RGHD to get wiped in CS2? LOL...great video. Love to see the old cards to get videos done about them.
2 quid for a basic video adapter you can't argue really. Want to add an old VGA monitor? 2Quid. Add an extra HDMI output? 2 Quid. I have an ancient 7.1 sound card in my PC to output to an amp, cost precisely zero Quid (found it in a friend's e-waste), pisses all over the on board output and is more "muscular" than modern DACs plugged into my separates system. Old tech has it's place, sometimes it's place will surprise you. I've literally only heard your voice through this soundcard since Nov 2019. 😎
mafia ran smooth and wasn't slowing down like some games do when fps are low. i'd play the remastered version like that if all i had was the 255.
that branding tho - a 255 cant possibly fit in the r9 tier
Haha yeah not sure why it’s an r9
@@RandomGaminginHD So HP/Dell/Lenovo can put "R9 Graphics!" on the outside of the box. I've got an "R9 360" that's just an R7 360 with an OEM-grade heatsink and fan.
Great video once again. Very usefull but you know what. It might sound goofy but if you guys could hook up together as a OG tech spot with dawid does tech stuff as i see you guys sometimes in the comms sections of each other's vids. That would be bad ass.
For 2 pound used gpu from 2000 its pretty amazing
So it's basically Vega 3-6 levels of performance in a PCI-E slot. Hilarious!
Nice card to pop into an office pc or 1080p media center
GDDR5 version were usable. Not great (not even good) but usable for low spec gamers on budget.
cyberpunk legit looking like a nintendo ds game, nice!
very god vídeo, but i did't get the idea to run with just a 8 gb of RAM, i think with 16 or 32 gb the result would be much better
Major news here is that forza horizon 4 gets delisted on December!!!! Loved that game on gamepass and never finished it. I'll have to pick it up next time it's on sale
Im impressed the I5 12400F goes down to like 20Watts in game. My current 3900X doesnt even go below 50watts at idle on the desktop
Impressive, most impressive! 💪
This video gave me nostalgia and I’ve never owned this graphics card lol
Phew, not another Mini PC video, thank the Lord.
isnt that the iceberg or optiprime channel? he just checked a few recently
Even an iGPU these will probably thrash it, I would of went for a portion of chips and a fizzy drink myself though. 😁
Performed better than i thought it would
Kinda looks on part with my old GT650M from what I can remember !
I just sold a card with DDR3 memory that I inadvertently purchased because I didn't properly read the packaging that said "DDR3". It is an XFX R7 240 4GB in the original box with the cellophane still on the card itself. I sold it for what I paid for it at $35 US. Testing on it compared to my other cards was abysmal even on low setting. I feel fortunate to have made my money back on it.
😒👍 R7 450 4GB DDR5 = FTW
Pass the parcel.. except you don't want the prize 😂
Selling it for what you paid for it is just leaving someone else holding the bag 😉
I would try to discourage (tell them how bad it is) anyone trying to buy it from me and sell it for much less.
Maybe give it to the Op Shop (Goodwill Store).
@@peterpan408 - I left nothing out of the description that clearly stated DDR3 memory so people know what they're getting. Due to me not knowing the differences between DDR3 and DDR5, I purchased it and learned a lesson from the experience to pay attention to the item details next time. If someone else did the same as I, then the same valuable lesson was passed on.
@@Alpha-ms9nj Indeed!
This was my GPU back in the day
good old days
Soo sorry to hear that. :D
i hope you have a way better one now
The hypothetical current generation RT 4010 also features 2GiB memory but at 25% the bus width with 32 bit so its about even to the R9 255
It is a blurry mess. But dude, I have played Delta Force 2 on a black and white 14 inch CRT monitor and some resolution under 640x480 (something like 400x300 but not exactly that). Or NFS 5 with minimum details 640x480 and 17 FPS. With that I learned to drive.
I have a suggestion: You could include a game that supports software renderer to your list. I think it could be interesting to see if the graphics card is better than using the remaining power of the processor.
Reminds me that I got an HD6670 for free. For some reason the XFX variant had GDDR3 instead of the reference GDDR5.
funny how this is actually better than mine cuz i am using a r7 250 ddr 3 variant 😅😅
that mafia:de gameplay lookin' downright painterly
it's like a PSX retrp filter with some of these games.
Better than my 920M.
this card vs a ryzen 8700G could be fun to see
I never heard of this card tbh. I have owned a few OEM cards, especially AMD and have never come across info for this. I like looking at old OEM hardware, it's all interesting and most is pretty cheap nowadays. Making great novelty items for us nerds.
That card is better than my r5 430 xD
you should include an overclocking section for these old and bad cards
I was half expecting a PCI or AGP card for that price :D
I had a 250 GT :P played WoW well.
If the FPS bothers you, do what Nvidia does. Pretend the card has frame generation and mentally double the FPS. Nvida just makes extra frames and counts them, for the FPS dependant of us.
"Your eyeballs can rest". Except for me, who is watching this on a 13 year old Dell Inspiron 1764 laptop I got for free a few days ago from my grandpa and installed Linux on. Old first gen i3 with 8GB of RAM. Watching in anything higher than 480p pegs the CPU at 100% and the video refuses to play lol. The crazy thing is that the battery still works fine. Don't worry, I have far better machines. I just love saving stuff from e-waste and repurposing it and messing around with them, even if I already have plenty of machines. I'm sure anybody who watches this channel understands that sentiment lol.
that beautiful heatsink alone worth £2, so performance wise it's free
I had a 7750 1GB and had a hard time giving it up. There was nothing in the single slot half height space constraint that was my living room PC.
this GPU is still better than how an Xbox one ran Fallout 4 in 2015.
I have one of these :) duno if I actually ran it in a computer though
Still decent enough to upgrade a old system to a multi monitor office pc.
I wonder how many monitors one could run on a mining motherboard with several garbage GPU on it..
If games could SLI across several GPU, we could get to 8K+.
The driver/bus burden may be unpleasant.
Would be better if you added gpu power
The design is 100% retro
Another dirty CEX video. Loved it. Get another and crossfire those badboys.
I'm playing around with the 7750 LP with GDDR5 for my XP build, where it's working quite well.
That being said, this cooler design, which my visiontek variant also has, is the worst, it's noisy, and not that good.
Not bad for £2
This would be a good card for an old office PC.
0:05 I instantly recognised that card. I had one in an ASUS ROG G20 paired with an A10-7800 and it actually was setup to run in crossfire with the on board APU Graphics. So maybe you could test it with an APU like an A10-7850K.
That CPU is too weak now.
It's like the CPU rebelled, 'I'm not going to work with that GPU!' 😂
Have you tried Crossfire with an R7 250 and APU?
0:59 might be smbus? Try tape out the smbus pins.
Amazing performance for the price. Now find an old prebuilt for 3 pounds and slap it in there and make a 5 pound pc vid!
Hey lots of love and support to your videos I am fan for 3 years but since the last incident with Intel cause stability issues and problems could you use a bench with AMD Ryzen ? Even an budget cpu would be more than enough
This must've been the inspiration for the RX 6300
For £2, it look good for display
Try these games again with the amernimezone drivers.
You should get FH4 on the Xbox PC version in case you ever wanted to use a wheel and shifter..... Some reason the steam version never worked with wheels n ffb settings idk why...... It's dang fun on a wheel to
For $2, thats awesome performance for those games lol
Waaaay better than my backup, R5 220
I think we have to remember that this is not a gaming GPU so the fact that it's running these games, in some cases very trying to run these games, it's not a bad card.
I might have a very old Graphics Card from like 2010, that has a DVI slot but no HDMI on it. That I used a DVI to HDMI cable on. If you think you can get use out of it...
This was AMD's dark era, first the FX cpus, and then calling a DDR3 7750 an "R9"
Are you ever going to finish that "The Space In Between" mission in Cyberpunk? It seems like you've been stuck on that one for awhile :)
for low profile card without extra power plug, this is far better than my wife's GT210 :D
You must not like your wife much..
@@peterpan408 low profile low energy consumption mini pc from probably 10y ago for office prupose only
It's cheaper than many meals and it plays Crysis. What more could one want?
It did well to be fair.
Maybe a cool test to see for intel at what point is the IGPU better or the same as an older amd/Nvida graphic card.
better than the gt210
R9 branding on a card like this, what were they smoking
I have a similar one,Lad!
NVIDIA GT730 2GB GDDR3
Try lossless scalling would be interesting
i have a pc without HDMI and looking for a way to plug into my tv so my question is, where on earth do you find these cards so cheap?!
Idk why nobody ever tests The Long Dark in these benchmark videos. It has like 5x more players than Bioshock Infinite, and is more demanding
probably cuz its not popular enough I guess. Way more people recognize the word bioshock, not ''The Long Dark''