i ran into that team using this team and i remembered to swap into the kingdra right away buuuut then i spaced on what other pokemon was part of the line besides gengar/crustle. ended up in a situation where my dragonite got farmed all the way by lapras lol
Yep, so many Dragonite floating about. But my best today was against a Kingdra. Sack swap to my Charzard swapped back into Talonflame and then the Boom using brave bird
I am Korean just linked it with my phone..god i have been watched zhonic my friends are either watching too..you are so famous in Korean. I wished you can be a poke master.. plz comment once.. ^^
Been watching you for a while, love the vids! Just subscribed too. You've given me a newfound desire to enjoy PVP, as opposed to just getting to high enough rank to get the elite tms and quitting haha i would like some advice on my team though, if you can help? Just finished maxing my hundo g.fisk to 51. I like your gfisk team from your january video, but im wondering if you've got recommendations on using it in open ultra? I've got some nice mons like XL abomasnow, Magnezone, XL registeel and giratina already made, if it helps. Keep churning out these videos, I look forward to them!
I've been playing this team for a few seasons now also. I always swap in the mirror right as you are getting to hydro yourself to catch on Kingdra. For some reason many still stay in vs Kingdra with the penguin when Kingdra easily wins that matchup. If they bring in their own dragonite, then you just get more farm with your dragon/penguin (and still have a drill peck/hydro saved). It's similar to what Zyonik is doing with building up to two, but saves a lot more health on your penguin since it isn't getting hit.
I ran this team for two sets; first set, 5 Venu leads in a row; second set, 3 Machamp leads, 2 Swamperts... I can understand one or two Venu leads, but five???!! The team is definitely cursed.
Good line. I have used this since season 3 it’s S tier Edit: you can barely get to the outrage against lapras with a shadow dragonite if they don’t throw, they never shield thinking you didn’t make the hurricane and it slaps. Empoleon never shields the outrage either. I strongly recommend running outrage (60 energy) and using shadow dnite
I don't play POGO since October, but I watch your videos everyday, you have a loooot of charisma my friend, if you ever branch out I'm pretty sure you will be successful
Great battles! I'm on my way to rank 19; Exeggutor with Confusion and Seed Bomb is coming pretty handy thwarting both Swamperts and Venusaurs in the Premier Cup. Oh and everyone is running Roserade these days lol
I am new to Pogo League battling and I thought IV's were super important but in a lot of your videos I see pokemons like Empoleon having a 0 IV's stat but it still performs well.. Are IV's less important then I thought?
if a mon has for example: attack 0 defense 15 HP 15 when its's pushed to 1500 or 2500 it will have little less attacking damage but much more defense and HP. Like 6 less in attacking, therefor 6 more def. and 6 more HP. Having more def and HP gives you the chance to get to more charge moves
I have a Shadow Dragonite with an Ultra League rank of 95% (frustration has been removed) and a regular one at 96% Ultra League rank. Which one would you suggest I use?
For myself, I usually run Breloom with Counter as a fast move for Melmetal, Snorlax, Swampert.., etc.. Drifblim with Hex as a fast move for Cresselia, Giratina Altered/Origin, and Cloyster with Ice Shard for Dragon, Flying, Grass types, especially opponent Togekiss.
Wondering if dragon breath Charizard is a better closer than dragonite... Also better counter against the double charm... It all depends on what is in the back by my experience
i've been using this team lately but using DB Zard instead of Dragonite for reducing costs as well as having a bit better defense against lapras as well as charmers. really enjoying it and defiinitely smashing it with double dragons
Help me, i have Gyarados, Machamp and Breloom in my team is it really working well? I also had Swampert, Shadow Magnezone and Shadow Dragonite. I just can't win in premier cup i dunno why haha. So please help me what team should i build.. 😔
Great content as always:) After reaching level 20 I'm facing very difficult to gain points so can anyone suggest me solid team to play further or I'm using Empoleon, Venasaur and Typlosion so can anyone suggest me that which one should I use as lead, safe swap and closer. If you guys feel like I should try other combination you can suggest me So kindly tell me asap!!
This is the easy mode team. I ended making my team specifically to counter this one. Empoleon, venusaur, togekiss. Since they usually use kingdra as a safe swap I can typically get venusaur aligned with so it can avoid the dragonite and I can usually win switch back so I can get my togekiss aligned with the dragonite that comes in and in the empoleon mirror match he usually comes out low enough to get charmed down even if mines goes down. It used to work great but now that everyone and their mother has had a chance to grind for XL pokemon it really struggles against abomasnow also had a glaring weakness to ampharos leads.
Attack contributes more to the combat power, so with less attack you can level up more times under the league (2500 for UL) and aquire way more overall stats.
trick to that team is very simple when they bait our your charmer with either kingdra or dragonite dont charm it all the way down cause then empoleon farms a lot which flips match wait till they get u low enough but win switch.
I faced this lineup earlier but in a different order. My gyarados ripped through the dragons mainly with dragon breath and I couldn’t believe my luck when I ended with my machamp vs their empoleon.
Where have I been? I've been sitting on a 98.8 Empoleon, 99.9 Dragonite, and a 99.6 Kingdra which reaches 41 and outclasses PvPokes sim. 👀 With 5 extra HP it can take one additional Dragon Breath before K.O.
I personally am unable to run this team😟... I don't have normal dragonite for ultra, so I used my shadow one and it's so glassy... I need learn how to use it🥺
I ran this team last season I was satisfied with it in first but then I met lot of togekiss or even venusaur is little problem and kingdra is horrible to get charge move so i switch kingdra to XL umbreon and lead with dragonite and works fine with me now.
I WAS using this team, and it is extremely powerful and flexible. But now I bet there will be a LOT of double charmers, so I'll have to think another team. But I forgive you, Zyonik! Your content is the best!
My biggest problem is the "counts" for dragon breath users... I mostly go for feeling when its time for a sack swap, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt... can anyone help me get to know the count for dragon breath charge moves?
I find that this team gets way more risky in higher ranks since everyone knows it and is prepared for it. A lot of charmers running around to counter the dragons and Umb XL.
I thought something spicy was comming xD. Wanna beat this? Here: Shadow machamp, magnezone and drifblim. I've won every single match against this double dragon team. It has some problems with leading gengar teams, but in general does ok
zyonik : charmers will destroy this team me who's running grass & double electric hmm, ya sure bout that bud? but zyonik is monster at reading the teams, I'm just maybe 25% of him XD
One of the most famous team right now, toxicroak lapras snorlax can sweep this team easily. I used snorlax instead of empoleon, and had no chance at all to win the toxicroak, lapras, snorlax team
I played this team last week. Never had so much struggle im the gbl. Almost all my opponents had charmer im the back. Or even worse: gardevoir and clefable! I lost so much elo
This team Is real good I used it before kingdra is a good ss it can lure out the counters if empoleon is low or dies 23:34 Yaa if the charmer isn’t lured out that’ll be a nightmare for double dragon if empoleon is out of the picture
This Team is nothing Spicy, It's just Consistent Wins outside of DOUBLE Charm [ooofff]. Had to give it a try myself!
Bro best team use in ultra league
Please answer me
Bro which team use in ultra premier cup
Great job bro 👍🏻
U didnt have to showcase this team, now toxic kids will run ampharos togekiss and clefable 😅
When you realize that all the moves on the side are all shades of blue. O_o
**Visible confusion**
Very oddly satisfying 👌.
nice to know you have eyes
Zyonik wins with 3 mons and both sheilds alive
Also Zyonik: "very well played to my opponent"!!
😂😂XD
EMOTIONAL DAAAAMAGE
Whenever I use this team, Togekiss comes out of nowhere at the back always.
This team is everywhere, which is the reason I use Celeb Peng’s gengar lapras crustle team.
i ran into that team using this team and i remembered to swap into the kingdra right away buuuut then i spaced on what other pokemon was part of the line besides gengar/crustle. ended up in a situation where my dragonite got farmed all the way by lapras lol
Yeah I’ve been beating it consistently with toxicroak, snorlax, ampharos, have been seeing it nonstop
I use counter team against it: Toge, Kingdra and Machamp .
@@rupertpupkin928 Then make your own team and have success with it. Wow so hard.
I've been running Aggron, Dragon Breath Charizard, and Machamp, I run into this team often and beat it every time.
The purple fire on dragonite's hand in thumbnail is so damn good❤❤🔥🔥🔥
That must be representation of dragon claw
I have 98% shadow Dragonite. Should I use it for Ultra or Master? Any advice from someone?
I'm so sure that if I use this team I'll be facing double charmer 😒
I have double charm. Don’t even think about using this team LOL!!! I would cream it!!!!
Been running this myself and everyone is running anti dragons for me so it's not great. Everyone has an ampharos, Dragonite or togekiss
Same here..
Lol
@@JonBeechxD same experience myself in the 2100-2400 range - XL Clefable or Togekiss after a Shadow Machamp lead is VERY popular
We all feared the talonflame as UL fired up. But with so many content creators doing these teams, dragon hunting is now the norm.
Yep, so many Dragonite floating about. But my best today was against a Kingdra. Sack swap to my Charzard swapped back into Talonflame and then the Boom using brave bird
I am Korean just linked it with my phone..god i have been watched zhonic my friends are either watching too..you are so famous in Korean. I wished you can be a poke master.. plz comment once.. ^^
So happy you are making this even more common, I run machamp / lapras / clefable and it eats it for breakfast! I see it so often in various orders :D
Been watching you for a while, love the vids! Just subscribed too. You've given me a newfound desire to enjoy PVP, as opposed to just getting to high enough rank to get the elite tms and quitting haha
i would like some advice on my team though, if you can help? Just finished maxing my hundo g.fisk to 51. I like your gfisk team from your january video, but im wondering if you've got recommendations on using it in open ultra? I've got some nice mons like XL abomasnow, Magnezone, XL registeel and giratina already made, if it helps.
Keep churning out these videos, I look forward to them!
Thanks for the support! I'd check out JFarmakis channel as he just got the Gfisk as well and might have a great team for it!
I've been playing this team for a few seasons now also. I always swap in the mirror right as you are getting to hydro yourself to catch on Kingdra. For some reason many still stay in vs Kingdra with the penguin when Kingdra easily wins that matchup. If they bring in their own dragonite, then you just get more farm with your dragon/penguin (and still have a drill peck/hydro saved). It's similar to what Zyonik is doing with building up to two, but saves a lot more health on your penguin since it isn't getting hit.
I think I'm going to shield, I need to respect the brave bird.
Oh no, I don't - Zyonik 2021
I ran this team for two sets; first set, 5 Venu leads in a row; second set, 3 Machamp leads, 2 Swamperts...
I can understand one or two Venu leads, but five???!! The team is definitely cursed.
Good line. I have used this since season 3 it’s S tier
Edit: you can barely get to the outrage against lapras with a shadow dragonite if they don’t throw, they never shield thinking you didn’t make the hurricane and it slaps. Empoleon never shields the outrage either. I strongly recommend running outrage (60 energy) and using shadow dnite
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I don't play POGO since October, but I watch your videos everyday, you have a loooot of charisma my friend, if you ever branch out I'm pretty sure you will be successful
Opponent: *Makes multiple awful mistakes, completely throwing the game*
Zyonik: That is going to be a good game, very well played by my opponent
😂😂😜
I’m back! Yeah my keyboard wasn’t working so wasn’t able to comment on your videos what I was gonna say is great Bronzong video!
Everyone using this team on the high ranks, I'm using Machamp - Dnite - Metagross and it's doing great in general and against this team
can u tell is swampert venusuar and alola muk or charizard with legacy move and dragon claw which fast move for charizard good for ul pc
Fire spin is must for Charizard
@@RizzLord95 ok can u suggest me a team which is good for ul premier cup i want to climb to rank i m at rank 20
@@PUBGNOOBDA use Machamp, roserade and magnezone.. roserade is now way more effective compare to other grass Pokémon bcz of weather ball👍
@@RizzLord95 ok thx
Lmfao BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH. that last match was fantastic and great unexpected end for the video even zyonik bumps into those annoying enemy wins
What is going on everybody...
Man that intro that damn intro❤️🔥
Great battles! I'm on my way to rank 19; Exeggutor with Confusion and Seed Bomb is coming pretty handy thwarting both Swamperts and Venusaurs in the Premier Cup. Oh and everyone is running Roserade these days lol
I am new to Pogo League battling and I thought IV's were super important but in a lot of your videos I see pokemons like Empoleon having a 0 IV's stat but it still performs well.. Are IV's less important then I thought?
if a mon has for example:
attack 0
defense 15
HP 15
when its's pushed to 1500 or 2500 it will have little less attacking damage but much more defense and HP. Like 6 less in attacking, therefor 6 more def. and 6 more HP.
Having more def and HP gives you the chance to get to more charge moves
@@snowheavencrew Thanks!
thoughts on this team but shadow dragonite? the damage is insane but def so squishy
Magezone says hi. :)
XL Galvantula would also like to say hi
I beat so many Magnezone with this team lmao
It's very frail
@@RajeshKK72 I guess with shadow dragonite you can beat mag
There’s always a counter to a team. Just a matter of minimizing it, haven’t seen too many magnezones lately with all the machamp running around
Love this team, I run empoleon with togekiss in the back
I have a Shadow Dragonite with an Ultra League rank of 95% (frustration has been removed) and a regular one at 96% Ultra League rank. Which one would you suggest I use?
For myself, I usually run Breloom with Counter as a fast move for Melmetal, Snorlax, Swampert.., etc.. Drifblim with Hex as a fast move for Cresselia, Giratina Altered/Origin, and Cloyster with Ice Shard for Dragon, Flying, Grass types, especially opponent Togekiss.
Can I replace dragonite with it shadow version? Since we are saving shields for it anyway
Please tell where you get the assets of Pokemon that you put at the left side of your video? Love your videos : )
mega.nz/folder/ikIETQ6a#dsmQzxLeXyK-DIVpR-ZAOg/folder/2841gQqa
Thanks sir!
Wondering if dragon breath Charizard is a better closer than dragonite... Also better counter against the double charm... It all depends on what is in the back by my experience
Question: is a shadow dragonite a good idea for this team?
I try to be fancy with this team. Rank 1 empoleon(community day), shadow dragonite(rocket grunt), rank1 xl kingdra(spotlight hour).
Such a sweet flex 🙌☺️
i've been using this team lately but using DB Zard instead of Dragonite for reducing costs as well as having a bit better defense against lapras as well as charmers. really enjoying it and defiinitely smashing it with double dragons
this team is a lot of fun been semi running it for 2 seasons, in the mirror if you can keep your kingdra healthy with a shield advantage you win
Hey Zyonik what can I use if I don’t have a king dra or Xl Pokémon
What if I don't have hydro cannon? Can I replace Empoleon with another Pokemon?
Can Dragon Breath Charizard be an alternative to the Dragonite in this team?
I've found that shadow lax lead often means a togekiss and kingdra backline.
Help me, i have Gyarados, Machamp and Breloom in my team is it really working well? I also had Swampert, Shadow Magnezone and Shadow Dragonite. I just can't win in premier cup i dunno why haha. So please help me what team should i build.. 😔
If u only want wins i would recomend to copy the team from this video if u like more spice u can play somthing like aggron venausaur tangrowth
There's two types of people in open ultra league. People who run giratina, and those who don't own giratina 😂
and theres the one that does not have enough candy to power up/double move
i don’t have a kingdra what should i use instead?
Great content as always:)
After reaching level 20 I'm facing very difficult to gain points so can anyone suggest me solid team to play further or I'm using Empoleon, Venasaur and Typlosion so can anyone suggest me that which one should I use as lead, safe swap and closer.
If you guys feel like I should try other combination you can suggest me
So kindly tell me asap!!
Does iv matter in pvp?
Is Gyarados a good replacement for Kingdra?
This explains why I saw 4 of 5 Empoleon Leads just an hour ago! Thanks Z
Rank 1 dragonite or shadow?
Beautiful thumbnail, love the battles!
This is the easy mode team. I ended making my team specifically to counter this one. Empoleon, venusaur, togekiss. Since they usually use kingdra as a safe swap I can typically get venusaur aligned with so it can avoid the dragonite and I can usually win switch back so I can get my togekiss aligned with the dragonite that comes in and in the empoleon mirror match he usually comes out low enough to get charmed down even if mines goes down. It used to work great but now that everyone and their mother has had a chance to grind for XL pokemon it really struggles against abomasnow also had a glaring weakness to ampharos leads.
This is like the most popular team for ultra atm even last season haha good team but tough to use some time
Machamp lead and a charmer on back: haha charm and fists go brrrrrr
Just curious why do people use less attack stat pokemons during pvp?
Attack contributes more to the combat power, so with less attack you can level up more times under the league (2500 for UL) and aquire way more overall stats.
@@ZyoniK oh wow thats so intelligent... geez thanx man
I have seen you using this team before too❤️👍🏻
In your video
I love this team, my Kingdra is XL and the added bulk can really make a difference.
trick to that team is very simple when they bait our your charmer with either kingdra or dragonite dont charm it all the way down cause then empoleon farms a lot which flips match wait till they get u low enough but win switch.
I faced this lineup earlier but in a different order. My gyarados ripped through the dragons mainly with dragon breath and I couldn’t believe my luck when I ended with my machamp vs their empoleon.
Zyonik, I want to submit my team to u cause it’s the perfect counter to this . But idk if I should. Can I?
Where have I been? I've been sitting on a 98.8 Empoleon, 99.9 Dragonite, and a 99.6 Kingdra which reaches 41 and outclasses PvPokes sim. 👀 With 5 extra HP it can take one additional Dragon Breath before K.O.
I personally am unable to run this team😟... I don't have normal dragonite for ultra, so I used my shadow one and it's so glassy... I need learn how to use it🥺
Zyonik: so be it
Also zyonik: ouch, booooooom
I ran this team last season I was satisfied with it in first but then I met lot of togekiss or even venusaur is little problem and kingdra is horrible to get charge move so i switch kingdra to XL umbreon and lead with dragonite and works fine with me now.
Just finished this team on Sunday hoping to raise my elo alot by the time great league comes back
Bro what can we replace kingdra with?
same
I WAS using this team, and it is extremely powerful and flexible. But now I bet there will be a LOT of double charmers, so I'll have to think another team. But I forgive you, Zyonik! Your content is the best!
How do u come out with these type of teams
Twitter community for GBL, this team was made by Toshi
Can u make a team on Machamp, venusaur and magnezone??
Nice team! I'm using Drifblim/kingdra/typhlosion so would be an interesting match for sure
My biggest problem is the "counts" for dragon breath users... I mostly go for feeling when its time for a sack swap, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt... can anyone help me get to know the count for dragon breath charge moves?
I find that this team gets way more risky in higher ranks since everyone knows it and is prepared for it. A lot of charmers running around to counter the dragons and Umb XL.
I thought something spicy was comming xD. Wanna beat this? Here: Shadow machamp, magnezone and drifblim. I've won every single match against this double dragon team. It has some problems with leading gengar teams, but in general does ok
I use Empoleon, Shadow Dragonite and Alolan Muk. Kind of a variation of the team. I love it.
I like your new room in the background for recording 👍
As far as IV's go why would he run a 0 attack Empelion?
Cos that's the highest attack in pvp👌
Why is the emploeon atk 0??
zyonik : charmers will destroy this team
me who's running grass & double electric
hmm, ya sure bout that bud?
but zyonik is monster at reading the teams, I'm just maybe 25% of him XD
Empoleon: *faints*
Fairies in the back: HEHE BOIIIIIIIII
Thank you for featuring this! My venusaur double electric destroys it every time :)
I saw someone running machamp double charm which is an insanely hard counter to this team
Signed up to the Patreon but can’t find a discord link anywhere. Can you help?
Check Email from Patreon. :)
@@ZyoniK thank you!!!
I love to see this team, always a win
26:50 when he booms, but doesnt boom.😨
I made a triple bye bye venusaur team including weavile delphox and sirfetch d with brave bird you should try it sometime if you want to
One of the most famous team right now, toxicroak lapras snorlax can sweep this team easily. I used snorlax instead of empoleon, and had no chance at all to win the toxicroak, lapras, snorlax team
I've been using ninetails, sirfetched, gyarados and have been winning most battles 3/5 ish, i havent come across this team much but im only in rank 18
I played this team last week. Never had so much struggle im the gbl. Almost all my opponents had charmer im the back. Or even worse: gardevoir and clefable!
I lost so much elo
Wow, interesting team, never seen in ace vs my gallade snorlax swampert
Me playing this and my opponent be like: HERE COME TOGEKISS AND CLEFABLE!
love this team, but i actually prefer empoleon, venu, gallade
The last game is epic!
I don’t know why looking at your thumbnail but I thought you were running shadow dragonite lol.
This team Is real good I used it before kingdra is a good ss it can lure out the counters if empoleon is low or dies 23:34 Yaa if the charmer isn’t lured out that’ll be a nightmare for double dragon if empoleon is out of the picture
31:31 when i try to achieve lifegoals
I've faced this team with machamp, abomasnow and dragonite and was able to win 2 times! But it wouldn't be the same if it were you with such accuracy!
2416 is level 50 perfect 100 umbreon zyonik, btw big fan of yours😊
That last battle was insanely close!
u should try Empoleon(starting), Swampert and Blaziken.Im going 10-1 rn
I'm running Venusaur (lead), Togekiss & Kingdra because of this video xD Doing Really well! 4-1, 3-2, 4-1 & 4-1
So this is why I keep seeing this team.
And destroying it.
Thanks Zyonik
Can you make a team with giratina (origine)