Anthony Lockheart _Yeah, true. ^^_ _I really liked the movie but cutting Joker's scenes? Wtf. Just because of the audience disliking the abuse of Harley x Joker even though abuse was shown on screen many times in different movies..._
And well it also isn’t fair to Jared when there are critics saying that he was barely in the movie and that his scenes sucked and stuff...like that isn’t his fault that the majority of his scenes were cut
Anyone sign this petition if you want an extended version of the movie with Jokers deleted scenes in it: www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-we-want-a-suicide-squad-joker-cut
I feel like most people watched this movie because of Joker and Harley and they just cut out so many scenes.. also I feel bad for Jared, he probably worked so hard on this.
I would've paid double the original ticket price to have seen the deleted scenes. Leto looks so sad in these interviews, he was so committed to the character
Of course he's not happy. Imagine the pressure of the character that's been there for years, you work hard to interpret it, meet people, concentrate and all of a sudden, most of your scenes get cut. The Joker was the most expected character in this movie.
exactly, i would be pissed, work for months and than cut all of his parts?! and then people are judging hin non stop and saying:"he's not heath ledger" well, he's not supposed to be HIM! his screen time was 6 minutes long , hiw can the judge his acting skilles(which are amazing, he didnt win an oscar for nothing) over 6 minutes?? it doesnt make sense
Fuck yeah! So stupid they didn't. Only reason is so they can make more money by having more viewers. It being pg13 you got tons more potential viewers than a R. Pisses me off. I love Jared and wanted a good back story on Harley and Mr. J. 👿
He's so pissed. Its so clear that he's trying so hard to control how upset he is. Such a shame because the few scenes he had made me want to see more of his Joker.
+BritneysBase not even honestly there was like four scenes. I can understand why. Ya know? It's a suicide squad movie not a joker and Harley movie. I wish they'd hair shoot a movie about both of them and everything they've gone through together and stuff and put the scenes they cut form suicide squad into that movie. Plus that would pull in so much money which is what they want. Everyone would want to see it. Especially all the teen girls finding out about Harley
Jared looked really annoyed that his scenes were cut, he practically repeated the same words over and over again, emphasizing on almost everything he said.
I'm not Jared's biggest fan but I do feel for him, he did go in deep for the role (maybe a bit too much) and was probably led to believe he was going to be in it a lot more. He was basically used as a marketing tool. He got played. I feel I got played while I was watching the movie because the biggest draw for me was seeing Jared's interpretation of the Joker but all we got was like 10mins.
No need to. Warner Bros full intention was to boost sales of their Bluray by doing a Joker edition. They knew people would want it, so they purposely show a lot of Joker footage on the trailer, to make people asking for the Joker. Just watch, petition or not, WB gonna release a Joker edition for profit.
You can tell Jared went so deep into this role. He was fully committed to the Joker, only to be disappointed when the studio decided to cut most of his scenes out. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they did it. Test audiences didn't respond well to the abusive side of the Joker/Harley Quinn relationship, so the director and the studio opted to make it more romantic. I don't think Jared is upset that they went this route. He's spoken highly of Margot in several interviews (have you seen the way he LOOKS at her?) and he clearly ships Joker/Harley, but he wanted more of his work to be recognized. Either way, we NEED more of Jared Leto's Joker and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. Joker/Harley FTW!!!
Michael Tarantolo I respect canon, but SS -- like most comic book movies and TV shows -- is an adaptation. It's not 100% true to the comics because they want to try something new and different.
A rated-R movie featuring Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and Jared Leto (the Joker) would be bad-ass. If there's anything that would help to propel DC to the epic proportions of Marvel movies, it would definitely be a film like that.
+mrdevilishdan666 I mean you can... But it would be pointless . We need a full on joker & harley Quinn movie, obviously batman is gonna be in the movie, batman created the joker, and joker gives batman his purpose
I still think it could be done and be a blockbuster. The Joker has come into his own... he's not a secondary character anymore. He could pull off his own movie and do it sans Batman and Harley. You've just got to believe in it my friends... believe and it will be...
_Never have I ever felt bad for Leto. He look so pissed that majority of his scenes got cut. If I played a character that mainly EVERYONE is hyped for, acted this character for 6 months, stayed in character for 24/7, and shot more scenes then expected and get less screentime than I expected when I see the movie, I will be feeling like I was scammed._ _And if I know the real reason why they were cut (I know why. Audience dislike the HarleyxJoker scenes), I would blame the audience for not knowing that Joker is a psychopath and really doesn't love (or care) Harley... He's doesn't have empathy and psychopaths never feel emotions._ _Let's just hope for a DVD release with a deleted scene section._
_Me, myself, doesn't like HarleyxJoker but if you wanna show their relationship very well in the movie, show how their relationship actually is (Like in the comics). Joker is also why Harley is... Harley._ (He's her origin story)
His joker was absolutely perfect, nothing more that we could ask. Also, the adorable psychotic relationship, that’s where I complain. I wanted to see more of that. Much more. SO CUTE
Wtf, at the end of the movie I was already wishing that they would put in more joker scenes. And now I find out that they could have but they just cut them out? FUCKIN PISSED. Rather watch just scenes with Joker and Harley than the bullshit they pulled cutting it all out.
+Olga Amanowicz ohh jared is controlling himself ALOT if you've seen artifact documentary you'll know.. There was alot that was said to jared by David n half of those didnt happen. they even talked about doing it R rated and seemed like that was the plan in the begining
missStockholm i meant inside xd in outside he seems very calm but i'm sure inside he's still (even a little bit) pissed but he try to hide it and act proffesional
I honestly watched the movie because I saw Harley and the Joker. The people promoting the movie all used the Joker as click bait. I came because I thought I was going to see more of the Joker, only to find out he has only 5-10 minutes in the entire film. very disappointing. Jared worked VERY hard acting out his part too, as well as planning out the joker's look, as discussed in his other interview. That's just not fair to cut so many of his scenes as well as the other characters. They should really make a Joker movie. I would 100% go and watch it. (Sorry if I'm sounding outrageous, but a little note to the producers: IF YOUR GOING TO MAKE A MOVIE LIKE THIS, DON'T USE THE JOKER AS CLOCK BAIT ONLY TO MAKE US FIND OUT HE'S BARELY EVEN IN THE MOVIE. very disapointing to Joker fans such as myself.)) Don't get me wrong though, I still loved the movie, I just think more of the Joker would have made it a little better.
tbh i think the joker movie would've been better if they had cast jared again instead of changing it. his version of the joker was so good and he went to such extremes to make it so good that i think he really deserved that role. i haven't seen birds of prey yet but i know that jared wasn't cast for that either. i'm not sure how much the joker was in birds of prey but assuming the joker made it into at least one small scene or made on cameo, i just don't see why they wouldn't have used jared.
@@amber-bx8rz as much as i love Jared Leto and his joker, i don’t think anyone could’ve been better than Joaquin Phoenix in Joker. Their versions of joker are completely different and Phoenix was made for that specific type of joker.
If they get rid of Leto as the Joker because hes a little upset his scenes were cut (understandably so) I'm metaphorically burning DC to the fucking ground!!! (and quite possibly literally if they don't give Harley & Mr. J their own movie with Batfleck in it!)
Agreed, I mean look at how fantastic he get the job done! He is so into the character, more than the other cast. He deserve more with that effort of his given in to this movie.
Right! Im with jared leto on how pissed he is. Im sure theyre gonna release an extended cut with all of his scenes. Such a waste of an amazing talent. So handsome too :)
+Miss Sadie I really hope so! Or at least use them for the next movie. I'll be so unbelievably sad if we never get to see those scenes. Sad and pissed.
+7teenageSmokers Agreed! I felt like the movie was so short. It felt like they were trying to fit in too much into one movie so it looked like they left out soooo much. Not just with the Joker and Harley but the rest of the characters as well. It felt like it was missing so much. I'm quite upset about it.
I wish Black Mask was the villain and get into some personal Vendetta with Amanda Waller leading to her using the Suicide Squad for her own gain instead and just have the Joker focused on Harley by taking out both Black Mask and Amanda Waller's organizations to get her back.
suicide squad are made for going against meta humans not some human criminal mob boss.. they dont need a bunch of skilled villains to go against one joker... batman or other agents can go after him
+missStockholm Actually no. The Suicide Squad were originally formed to do the government's dirty work. Deal with foreign threats where the government couldn't directly intervene. Point is dealing with *spoilers* 😯 Enchantress was stupid, specially having the members of the justice league running around. Their villain should have been a non metahuman, specially not one as powerful as Enchantress. You seriously think Harley is better suited than Wonder Woman to deal with a metahuman? Come on!😂 I enjoyed the movie but I'm not blind to its flaws. 👎 I liked the characters but the movie was choppy and incoherent. I wish we got a bit more Joker; I couldn't really form an opinion on him.😉
Nayeli Ramos precisely criminal organizations like the League of Assassins, the Outlaws or like I mentioned before Black Mask's Organization would be perfect match for the Squad. Leave the Meta Humans for the JL.
I'm already gonna pay like 160 bucks for the collectors edition Blu Ray with the Harley Quinn statue, add another disc to it with a rated R cut of the movie and ALL of Jared's deleted scenes and I'll pay an extra 20 or 30 bucks. I just want to see ALL the work he did.
+Crazy Cazzy me too! i really like jared leto as joker, he's actually kinda hot as that character xD 💕💓 and it's pretty weird that i'm atrracted to a psychopath... xd sry for bad eng
Yeah Im sad we didn't see a lot of them but it sounds like it's going somewhere bigger now which I think is what they deserve. Rumors had it where he's more abusive and Harley breaks free from Joker and I think it's way too soon for that, I want to see them cause mayhem together as main characters. I'd love to see these deleted scenes and hopefully we will but I'm glad they didn't go with that storyline.
+Nick I agree with u on that, even the creator of Harley Quinn cried when he saw the film and saw how much Joker loves Harley and he likes that version better then the cartoon and comics, so do i im tired of the abusive shit its been done and its used and repetative and im glad the film when to a different take on Joker and Harley.
***** ur welcome, I think is right and fresh to have Joker finally love Harley because even psychopaths can love look at hannibal lector, red dragon, norman bates from psycho they all can feel love towards another person why can Joker, he can love Harley and I hope DC makes it this way and keeps it this way forever.
I LOVED his take on the joker. And Margot was just incredible as well. What they need to do is make an R rated movie that can really delve into that relationship. *That* would be something I'd want to see!
They should have done a short film that was released before the actual film, which covered the whole backstory of Harley and The Joker, that way suicide squad would have worked better.
MadAnnoyingShows yeah, not just Joker and Harley. There should have been a movie for all of the squad. They gave them all backstories (or most of them). They just needed something that showed what they could have done.
It's a damn shame we didn't get to see that much of him, I really enjoyed what we saw of his take on the character. Too much studio involvement ruins films. Let the artists work.
exactly.... but he needs to be careful not to express too much anger at his scenes being removed. studios and directors are not keen on their performers speaking out and going against the grain.
is it me or is it crazy how jared leto hides his anger really well? I think that's why he looks 's young, because if he's angry or frustrated about something he's able to vent it out very nicely. lol
He is defo really sad and let down.. Imagine you feel like you have done your best work on a project and 80percent of it dosnt get shown or seen by anyone how sad would you be :/
why would they even advertise this movie so heavily based around the joker when he barely even in it? i was really disappointed when i saw the movie. it was okay, but the parts that really caught my attention were joker scenes.
You know, Jared is SO different from Joker. Like, I tried to find similarities between the two, and I couldn't find anything.... But at 3:24, you see a little bit of crazy in him.. like, "I'm going to murder someone if the Joker doesn't catch on." Just like a, "I'm gonna go crazy," smile.
Jared was the sexiest joker I've ever seen in my LIFE, if they don't make him joker from now on and give him more screen time as the joker I will burn DC to the fucking ground!!
I agree. I always thought the Joker was ugly, and old. Until I saw Jared Leto play as him. Well the Joker was still ugly, but his acting made him sexy.
I would pay double the price of ticket to see a joker and Harley movie. Fuck it I'll pay twice the price just to see all the scenes they cut from the movie
You are aware that the relationship between the Joker & Harley is super abusive... right? Like, this wouldn't be a romantic movie -- it would be a movie about a girl with stockholm syndrome & her abuser. Just letting you know what you're asking for.
Dr. Zoidberg Not really in the context of how Suicide Squad set it up. Stockholm Syndrome would suggest that she spent a lot of time under his capture before she got all twisted. Rather, in the movie, it seems to suggest that she had some level of autonomy in her _decision_ to jump into the vat, which I appreciated, the same for the original cartoon, where she was already fascinated by him in the first place, and ended up falling in love with him. It wouldn't be a traditional romance, no, and there might well be abuse in it. However, it could be viewed as a romance, potentially, particularly since Waller described them as "the king and queen of Gotham City, and God help anyone who disrespected the queen."
ChaoticButterfly I know. For instance, in this cut of the film where it looks like he pushes Harley out of the helicopter to save her, originally, he pushes her out to kill her before any shit goes down. I know at least one other scene where he hit her was cut. The actual story of Harley Quinn & the Joker is that she was his psychiatrist in Arkham Asylum & her original name was Harleen Quinzel. Long story short, the joker was so manipulative that he basically broke her & turned her into a maniac, just like him. He never felt any true affection for her -- she was just a puppet for him. That's why fans were so happy when she finally got the guts to leave him & hook up with Poison Ivy
Dr. Zoidberg Yeah, I don't really have a problem with him hitting her. She probably hits him, at times, too. At least, that's what happened in Harley's first appearances. She'd reach her limit, then she'd turn on him, making him cower some. Oh, I know her story quite well, which is why I said to call it "Mad Love," the story that shows her origin. As for his feelings, Dini stated that Joker loved her as much as he was capable, which, given the Joker, isn't a whole lot, but it's something. Hell, at the end of No Man's Land, he launches her off in a rocket because he begins to realize he's starting to feel something softer for her, and he hates it. -.- As a fan... FUCK the New 52 and all their bullshit...
I knew from your Mad Love comment that you knew it well. I was empathetically embarrassed when I was reading Zoidberg talking to you like you were a layman in the DC universe lol.
As to why his Joker was cut so much, I would blame either the studio or the fans themselves. Movie studios want money at the end of the day, whether a movie is good or bad. Not to mention, DC and Marvel have been having a "size" fight for decades. DC is trying to churn out movies at the same pace as Marvel which is giving us the half-assed rushed movies with backwards plots. MoS, BvS, and Suicide Squad all had the potential to be amazing movies if they were done the right way. The Joker has to be dark in order to be done the right way. Yes, he's all about the "laughs" but even with that, he's still a psychopath that kills people. And in order to portray Harley and Joker the right way, THE RELATIONSHIP HAS TO BE ABUSIVE. Which is where I blame the fans. I'm sorry because I know that seeing an abusive relationship is a trigger for some people, but that's the only way to tell their story. I'm not saying they have to include the more brutal aspects but fact of the matter is, their relationship is essential to Harley's character. And whether he wants to admit this or not, it's clear that on some level, The Joker does care about Harley. He might not be in love with her but he does care. Have Harley hit him back a few times, have them argue, or have them throw knives at each other. Anything. But don't downplay what their relationship is. I blame this politically correct world we live in.
I feel the same! It felt rushed, and if it had been given more time they could have added a bit more depth and backstories to the characters. I loved it as it was though, and hopefully they'll make more in-depth spin offs in the future.
They cut out all the stuff that defines the Harley-Joker relationship, which is historically extraordinarily abusive. In the comics and other media, Joker sees Harley as nothing more than a plaything that exists merely for his whims and amusement.
some of them wont because they even had scenes where Warner Bros had them go back and film something different. So like yeah very little deleted scenes will be shown on dvd. Even though they filmed sooooo much more than the deleted scenes the dvd is gonna have.
I'd appreciate a version where they didn't pussy out on showing the bad parts of the relationship as well. Don't get me wrong--I love the partnership, but I'm not faint of heart and I like the relationship multi-faceted. You can show them fighting and being cruel with each other and still exploring their twisted version of love x.x Guess we'll never get that level of character depth when the studio just wants money from the general audience. Ah well. I really want to see more of them, though.
see i would argue that the joker really doesn't love harley, i would say he uses her and she is so obsessed she doesn't care. its a really sad relationship when you look beneath the surface.
Fair opinion. It doesn't have to be considered love, nothing by normal, socially acceptable standards certainly, I mean their definition of 'fun' would be murder so -- but I'm of the opinion that he is more attached to her than he'd ever admit. Does that even remotely count as some sort of affection? I dunno. Up to interpretation or whatever fits your view of them. The obsession might not be equal, but in some versions of them I think it definitely goes both ways. And yeah, If you look at the whole picture -- their lives are sad, period. Not just the relationship. Mentally unstable and constantly causing mayhem or being arrested. I still enjoy seeing this hot mess of a couple in action, tho.
There is no love, Harley is just a tool. It's wierd to see audiences really believing that this is literally a "relationship". I know Warner is fucking the original material, but to confuse people at this point is something scary.
Sigh. I read the comics. I know their history, I know all the arguments. I'm not fucking confused or new to the material so they aren't tricking me into seeing something. I personally don't like being given boring ass, easy, black and white excuses for character motives like 'Nope. He's incapable of this thing. Not even possible. Ever. In any incarnation because, reasons. If he does, someone wrote him wrong.' If someone wants to hit me with some reasoning behind that, like they consider Joker a psychopath and as a result, not emotionally capable of forming such attachments, then okay I see that perspective and I respect it. I personally consider him a sociopath, he used to be a somewhat normal individual like you or I and as he likes to claim, all it took was one bad day. While it would be impossible to have any sort of healthy relationship with another person, a sociopath can form attachments. No beautiful romance, hell no but uh...there is a relationship of some sort. I mean I know what you meant, but since the word covers the way any two people are connected, they do have one. I personally see it as another way to make the characters complex. Why is it easy to accept that Joker has some sick sort of infatuation with Bats that pisses all over the lines between love and hate, where he wants to shatter him to prove a point but thrives off their conflict at the same time--but he can't have something contradictory like that with Harley? To each their own, man--but that's just how I personally see the characters. We're not all gonna interpret things the same way--I mean look at New52. Some hate it, some love it--but my perspective isn't 'WB gave me Villains in love, AWWWW
The movie was corney....the best part of the movie WAS THE JOKER AND HARLEY STORY..that sucks that they cut so many scenes out...I heard a Harley movie us coming out..maybe it'll be in there...
if you cut scenes from the movie, dont fucking advertise them in the stupid trailers! And don't market the movie in such a way that makes everybody think that he would have a much more substantial role. That is literally one of the best ways to piss everybody off. Don't worry Jared, even if we dont get an extended cut, I think Ben Affleck will do you much more justice. What Margot said about having "too much" joker footage is beyond frustrating. If thats the case, then this was not the right movie to debut that character in. This movie could have benefited so much from a more street level story with the Joker as the big bad.
Yeah I remember seeing in the trailer the snippet of the joker with a burnt face and a grenade saying "BYE BYE" and I was waiting for that part during the movie. but it never came :(
+natalie lilly that was meant to be after his chopper crashed and he showed up to get Harley but she didn't come so he chucked a grenade and well bye bye
You can sign to request an extended cut here: www.change.org/p/david-ayer-requesting-the-extended-version-of-suicide-squad-with-the-complete-scenes-of-jared-leto-as-the-joker-exigimos-version-extendida-de-la-pelicula-suicide-squad-con-todas-las-escenas-de-jared-leto-como-the-joker
Idk why he's getting bashed. First of all he was probably in the movie for a whole 4 minutes. How in the living FUCK can anyone make an accurate assessment based on 4 minutes? I don't even know if that's right, it could be less. He completely transformed himself. Wait til he's the main villain and we get to see his sick, twisted schemes. Leto's Joker would be FUCKING PERFECT for an R rated film.
Samantha Castillo I read that they wanted to focus more on the mission at hand, defeating Enchantress. Rather then too much on back stories. It left us wanting more so it's brilliant. I could watch 10 movies based on Harley and Joker alone! Lol
OMG thank you! finally someone smart and not that ,,only Heath Ledger, every other joker sucks" kind of human :-: of course all respect to Ledger but jeez it's really annoying that his fans don't let anybody else be a joker, even if he would be amazing, they still will say that he's shit and Heath is the best
+Louie Cafarella well it is SUICIDE SQUAD.. so maybe they shouldnt have joker at all cuz u know he's the main star no matter what n even if he's there for 5 min ppl would want him more n care less for the 2 hour main story
+Outcast Gamer Yes but now they want to change their relationship a bit. Ofc still have those twisted and abusive moments. But a lot of fans wants to see bit of a romantic Joker and Harley relationship.
That's not how the relationship really is. With changes and cuts you barely get the idea but the scene in the car proves that Harley lives for the Joker but not vice-versa at all.
+Pedro Nascimento oh believe me i know their true relationship well i read the comics im just really saying that it was nice to see the joker cared about harley but yeah i get the point
+1XSilencer I totally agree. I love the pairing (however I do not in any way condone abusive relationships) and it was nice to see a new version of their relationship. I would like to see more of this. It would be awesome if DC changed joker's abusiveness into oppession like Harley's; like in this movie. I get that "that's not how their relationship works", but come on, stories change and characters change all the time, especially when they have been around for so long. So yeah, there's my two cents :)
+lillian layne-cotter me too! Not enough people understand that comic book movies can deviate from the comics a little to keep characters and concepts fresh. I personally really liked this dynamic
The way he was portried by Leto was really good, but the fact that he was barely in the film was sad af :c More people would probably like the film, too, if they didn't cut out all those scenes. A lot of my friends keep commenting to me that like he is only a sellout for the movie because he was barely in it, but when you get to see that there's a bunch of scenes he did that the editor cut out..
There is a petition where you can sign for just that and it will be sent to Warner Bros. Over 300 people have signed it so hopefully it'll work especially since he's not happy either.
They fucked up, they messed the Joker up, Leto did the best with what he was given and when it didn't work with test audiences they cut most of his scenes, who can blame the guy for being pissed.
From what I hear the test screening was absolutely loved, some saying it should have debut the DCEU not BvS. Idk why they would change it if that's the case.
+Alexander McKnight There were 3 screenings 2 were well received, the other was terrible apparently. Probably the one most critics saw, that or DC didn't pay them as well as Sony.
Hate to say this but the critics dont really have much idea what fans like. There are many films I have seen and loved that have been reviewed really badly. I wish they left it the way it was with all the joker scenes. I think Jared leto was well cast and I enjoyed him a lot.
Absolutely NOTHING against them AT ALL, I'm just saying that they tried to give a nice balance but yes if they included 15mins more, it would have been even better in MY opinion.
It wouldn't have been a problem if that was the plan from the start. The fact is that they got an extremely talented recent OSCAR WINNER and basically just used him and the character of The Joker to pull in viewers to come watch the movie. Almost every single Joker scene in the movie was in the trailers. The real problem is that they hyped Jared's performance of The Joker up so fucking much, only to make Leto and his preparation of the role look half-assed. If they hadn't used him as bait to get the general audience to see the movie, as well as making him do so much work and film a shit ton of scenes just to cut almost all of them out in the end WB wouldn't be getting so much hate. However, the scumbags that run Warner Bros. decided they would make this man look like an asshole just because they think they know what the audience will like. This movie was created for THE FANS and WB turned it into a movie that would please the GENERAL AUDIENCE. Which, by the way, they absolutely failed at.
The sheeps will buy cinema tickets and the extended cut blue-ray. This is kinda of cute, actually. Faithful fans is something ironic and interesting at the same time.
+MarshallZPie M. yes. I know they that want to kill each other because they have issues, but I also ship them because they are my favorite villains & because they are a dynamic duo. That's just my opinion.
I love how Jared acts very professional and non-provoking while simultaneously low-key telling us he's pissed af.
Great actor
I know, right? O_O I was thinking the exact same thing!
He is a very decent guy! if I was him and they did this to me , I wouldn't be so polite!!
yeah i too like it how he keeps it all inside.......it would make me feel so safe around him
Dimitrios Desmos...and then he starts laughing that laugh...🙂🙂🙂
"were there any that didn't get cut?" damn
Feel bad for Jared. ypu can tell he had passion for joker and now its all cut
I feel bad for him.
yeah, will smith's
I wish he had more parts
+Diana R we all do. His scenes with Harley are the reason most people watched the movie
Aww I feel bad because you can tell they put a lot of work into it and Jared was lowkey mad about the cutted scenes
+нyρσcяiтicαl lαυяєи its warner bros mostly
Anthony Lockheart
_Yeah, true. ^^_
_I really liked the movie but cutting Joker's scenes? Wtf. Just because of the audience disliking the abuse of Harley x Joker even though abuse was shown on screen many times in different movies..._
Its_Kianna low key? 😂
And well it also isn’t fair to Jared when there are critics saying that he was barely in the movie and that his scenes sucked and stuff...like that isn’t his fault that the majority of his scenes were cut
Leto seems super pissed and Robbie is just like "Well, shit happens."
As he should be.
+jarret45 maybe because Margo had so many other sciences compared to Jared so he has a reason to be pissed
well deadshot has being"riding on the harley" with a while now on the low is why i reckon shes acting cool bout it all..lol
If I shaved my eyebrows, stayed in character 24/7, and went all out to find out most of my scenes were cut... I'd be fuckin pissed
He seems to be holding it better though
It's cuz they made it PG 13 and couldn't put the scenes in there I think
Its a 15 here in the UK
he is pissed and he knows that we all are, I'm pretty sure the studio knows this and are locked up in their rooms somewhere lol.
Anyone sign this petition if you want an extended version of the movie with Jokers deleted scenes in it:
www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-we-want-a-suicide-squad-joker-cut
This video even longer than the whole Joker scene in the movie
There's more than one scene lel
+Cheesy Games This video is actually about half of his screen time, funnily enough
+Bill Nye, The Science Guy True lol
+Bill Nye, The Science Guy
the movie was about suicide. squad. not the joker
+Dez Ivory Yeah but they could've had more joker considering a lot of people saw the movie to see Jared Leto's performance as the Joker.
HARLEY AND JOKER MOVIE
Well hello there phandom nice to see you again
+Maisie James hello!
Nicole Cook FAKE FAN
No
I would like to see this so badly
Ironic that the actor who plays the joker is really really calm ..go figure
Nahh he seems pissed that they tricked him, all the promo they did like joker was 1 of the main ones in the movies but he wasn't is fucked up
+Ruben Varela seems calm to
+Goulactic X me
Goulactic X Look at is face he seems really pissed about this movie
Didn't you know that the calm/quiet ones are usually the most scary?
I feel like most people watched this movie because of Joker and Harley and they just cut out so many scenes.. also I feel bad for Jared, he probably worked so hard on this.
You can tell in his voice and face, he's kinda pissed because of how much work he put in :((
yeah, like I feel bad for him. He put his heart into this role and then it just all gets cut from the movie. ugh it angers me so much.
I would've paid double the original ticket price to have seen the deleted scenes. Leto looks so sad in these interviews, he was so committed to the character
I only went to see the movie for Joker, Harley, and Deadshot I don't give a shit about the rest 😂
+The Keeper Same lol
Of course he's not happy. Imagine the pressure of the character that's been there for years, you work hard to interpret it, meet people, concentrate and all of a sudden, most of your scenes get cut. The Joker was the most expected character in this movie.
Exactly.
Eve Tan I rest my case
exactly, i would be pissed, work for months and than cut all of his parts?! and then people are judging hin non stop and saying:"he's not heath ledger" well, he's not supposed to be HIM! his screen time was 6 minutes long , hiw can the judge his acting skilles(which are amazing, he didnt win an oscar for nothing) over 6 minutes?? it doesnt make sense
Absolutely, it's so unfair. People go like "you support him because he's Jared Leto" and all that bullshit. I hate that.
You girls just support him because he's Jared Leto... ;p
Anyone else think they should make a rated R version?
YES
absolutely.
F*** Yes! XD
we could get a unrated directors cut that'd be pretty sweet :)
Fuck yeah! So stupid they didn't. Only reason is so they can make more money by having more viewers. It being pg13 you got tons more potential viewers than a R. Pisses me off. I love Jared and wanted a good back story on Harley and Mr. J. 👿
Jared doesn’t look as if he’s aged. He’s in his forties and looks late 20’s
He's so pissed. Its so clear that he's trying so hard to control how upset he is. Such a shame because the few scenes he had made me want to see more of his Joker.
There was only like 15 minutes of him I. The film I heard
+BritneysBase not even honestly there was like four scenes. I can understand why. Ya know? It's a suicide squad movie not a joker and Harley movie. I wish they'd hair shoot a movie about both of them and everything they've gone through together and stuff and put the scenes they cut form suicide squad into that movie. Plus that would pull in so much money which is what they want. Everyone would want to see it. Especially all the teen girls finding out about Harley
+BritneysBase its literally 5 min if u count of his every appearance
same 😞
Jared looked really annoyed that his scenes were cut, he practically repeated the same words over and over again, emphasizing on almost everything he said.
lol well look at this way he will obviously be in solo batman so he wins in the end
As an actor myself, I would be freaking furious.
+Lopez aspiring***
+Lopez ah sweet. you're profile said aspiring. so that's where the confusion came from
+Lopez haha no youre good i was in a bad mood when i first commented anyway :p
PETITION FOR EXTENDED CUT AND A HARLEY AND JOKER MOVIE
dear lord after the BvS extended cut how did they find a way for people to beg for another?
oh god no, the 4 minutes we have seen already is so cringe
And make Harley Quinn the hottest Harley Quinn
#ReleaseTheRealSuicideSquadExtendedCut
I'm not Jared's biggest fan but I do feel for him, he did go in deep for the role (maybe a bit too much) and was probably led to believe he was going to be in it a lot more. He was basically used as a marketing tool. He got played. I feel I got played while I was watching the movie because the biggest draw for me was seeing Jared's interpretation of the Joker but all we got was like 10mins.
Can we start a petition for a joker release of Suicide Squad? With all the jokers scenes back in.
No need to. Warner Bros full intention was to boost sales of their Bluray by doing a Joker edition. They knew people would want it, so they purposely show a lot of Joker footage on the trailer, to make people asking for the Joker. Just watch, petition or not, WB gonna release a Joker edition for profit.
+zwann_mustapah if when the blue ray is released and we don't get out scenes we will then riot!!
Zirx
Yes we will
we need one so bad joker is awesome
Let's get #JokerCut trending
You can tell Jared went so deep into this role. He was fully committed to the Joker, only to be disappointed when the studio decided to cut most of his scenes out. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they did it. Test audiences didn't respond well to the abusive side of the Joker/Harley Quinn relationship, so the director and the studio opted to make it more romantic. I don't think Jared is upset that they went this route. He's spoken highly of Margot in several interviews (have you seen the way he LOOKS at her?) and he clearly ships Joker/Harley, but he wanted more of his work to be recognized. Either way, we NEED more of Jared Leto's Joker and Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. Joker/Harley FTW!!!
can you give me the link where he looks at her like...you know..
holly jolly Just check out Tumblr, type in the word "Jargot" and you'll see what I mean. ^_~
+Cailee Swallow oh thanks!♡
I like the abusive relationship. It's come accurate and sjws are ruining everything once again
Michael Tarantolo I respect canon, but SS -- like most comic book movies and TV shows -- is an adaptation. It's not 100% true to the comics because they want to try something new and different.
i dont care if the directors cut is 4 hours , they just need to put everything in.
SAME
SAME
wizya silupumbwe SAME!
SAMEEE
FRRR... its weird how you said 4 hours and now in 2021 we're getting Zack Snyder's cut of Justice League and its 4 hours...
A rated-R movie featuring Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie) and Jared Leto (the Joker) would be bad-ass. If there's anything that would help to propel DC to the epic proportions of Marvel movies, it would definitely be a film like that.
Leto needs a full on Joker movie... no Batman - no Suicide Squad... just a Joker movie. I would pay $$$ to see that.
Would,be great but sorry you cannot have a joker movie and not have the batman in it
+mrdevilishdan666 I mean you can... But it would be pointless . We need a full on joker & harley Quinn movie, obviously batman is gonna be in the movie, batman created the joker, and joker gives batman his purpose
I still think it could be done and be a blockbuster. The Joker has come into his own... he's not a secondary character anymore. He could pull off his own movie and do it sans Batman and Harley. You've just got to believe in it my friends... believe and it will be...
Yes👍🏾
YES
PETITION FOR EXTENDED CUT PLEEEASE
Actually there is one. I signed i yesterday.
+Apoorva tyagi link?
It'll probably be released alongside the theatrical version on DVD/Blu-Ray like BvS.
correction : PETITION FOR THE WHOLE FILM UNEDITED AND NO CUTS PLEASE
+Joe Stacks David said there won't be a director's cut, but there might be something else
_Never have I ever felt bad for Leto. He look so pissed that majority of his scenes got cut. If I played a character that mainly EVERYONE is hyped for, acted this character for 6 months, stayed in character for 24/7, and shot more scenes then expected and get less screentime than I expected when I see the movie, I will be feeling like I was scammed._
_And if I know the real reason why they were cut (I know why. Audience dislike the HarleyxJoker scenes), I would blame the audience for not knowing that Joker is a psychopath and really doesn't love (or care) Harley... He's doesn't have empathy and psychopaths never feel emotions._
_Let's just hope for a DVD release with a deleted scene section._
_Me, myself, doesn't like HarleyxJoker but if you wanna show their relationship very well in the movie, show how their relationship actually is (Like in the comics). Joker is also why Harley is... Harley._ (He's her origin story)
Poison Ivy is also a big part of her origin. I want to see that relationship. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
_Aha, same. ^^ IF Posion Ivy was in the big screen, who should play her?_
If they film an Ivy/Harley love story and then cut it, I'm declaring full-on war on WB. If they want a terroristic threat, they'll get it!
Well, they just wanted to people ship this LOVE. Nothing else.
His joker was absolutely perfect, nothing more that we could ask. Also, the adorable psychotic relationship, that’s where I complain. I wanted to see more of that. Much more. SO CUTE
Other people he is the worst and shit
Wtf, at the end of the movie I was already wishing that they would put in more joker scenes. And now I find out that they could have but they just cut them out? FUCKIN PISSED. Rather watch just scenes with Joker and Harley than the bullshit they pulled cutting it all out.
see you're pissed, but now, imagine how fucking much Jared was
+Olga Amanowicz ohh jared is controlling himself ALOT if you've seen artifact documentary you'll know.. There was alot that was said to jared by David n half of those didnt happen. they even talked about doing it R rated and seemed like that was the plan in the begining
Agreed
missStockholm i meant inside xd in outside he seems very calm but i'm sure inside he's still (even a little bit) pissed but he try to hide it and act proffesional
The reason why I think they cut it out because they are making a Harley movie so they probably want to use it for that movie
I feel bad for him, he's a method actor so I imagine his stuff getting cut really fucks him, cause I'm sure he worked really hard to create joker.
true, maybe he had like 4 min od a screen time but still he was fucking amazing ❤
+Olga Amanowicz of
exactlt
He must be pissed he stayed in character basically the whole time even off camera
He was amazing with it too so the fact that there's MORE of the joker that wasn't even shown. 😫🙄
I honestly watched the movie because I saw Harley and the Joker. The people promoting the movie all used the Joker as click bait. I came because I thought I was going to see more of the Joker, only to find out he has only 5-10 minutes in the entire film. very disappointing. Jared worked VERY hard acting out his part too, as well as planning out the joker's look, as discussed in his other interview. That's just not fair to cut so many of his scenes as well as the other characters. They should really make a Joker movie. I would 100% go and watch it. (Sorry if I'm sounding outrageous, but a little note to the producers: IF YOUR GOING TO MAKE A MOVIE LIKE THIS, DON'T USE THE JOKER AS CLOCK BAIT ONLY TO MAKE US FIND OUT HE'S BARELY EVEN IN THE MOVIE. very disapointing to Joker fans such as myself.)) Don't get me wrong though, I still loved the movie, I just think more of the Joker would have made it a little better.
SAME.
EXACTLY.
tbh i think the joker movie would've been better if they had cast jared again instead of changing it. his version of the joker was so good and he went to such extremes to make it so good that i think he really deserved that role. i haven't seen birds of prey yet but i know that jared wasn't cast for that either. i'm not sure how much the joker was in birds of prey but assuming the joker made it into at least one small scene or made on cameo, i just don't see why they wouldn't have used jared.
@@amber-bx8rz as much as i love Jared Leto and his joker, i don’t think anyone could’ve been better than Joaquin Phoenix in Joker. Their versions of joker are completely different and Phoenix was made for that specific type of joker.
I hope he doesn't listen to the lame critics who say his joker wasn't good. He was incredible, & I'm reeeally hoping for more of him in the future.
Same here ! omg ...
same!
Same
+Cutie Chelsea respect his opinion, you might not agree with them (I don't either) but don't hate on him for having an opinion.
we all are, the comment section suicide squad :))
If they get rid of Leto as the Joker because hes a little upset his scenes were cut (understandably so) I'm metaphorically burning DC to the fucking ground!!! (and quite possibly literally if they don't give Harley & Mr. J their own movie with Batfleck in it!)
Noo its not DC's fault it was Warner Brothers studio that fucked the movie up and screwed over Letto burn those fucks down,I need my comics man.
im with you man
David Ayer really fucked it all up.
Agreed, I mean look at how fantastic he get the job done!
He is so into the character, more than the other cast.
He deserve more with that effort of his given in to this movie.
Amen!
He looks so sad :(
He did so amazing tho, I'm so fuckin pissed
same WE NEED MORE FUNING JOKER
Right! Im with jared leto on how pissed he is. Im sure theyre gonna release an extended cut with all of his scenes. Such a waste of an amazing talent. So handsome too :)
He did a great job. The movie was pretty good, had they not cut all those scenes out, it probably could have been much much better.
+Miss Sadie I really hope so! Or at least use them for the next movie. I'll be so unbelievably sad if we never get to see those scenes. Sad and pissed.
+7teenageSmokers Agreed! I felt like the movie was so short. It felt like they were trying to fit in too much into one movie so it looked like they left out soooo much. Not just with the Joker and Harley but the rest of the characters as well. It felt like it was missing so much. I'm quite upset about it.
There better be an uncut extended version when it comes out on blu ray
yes please
Fuck you, David Ayers hates you!
It's always less than 5 minutes long lol
I really like his voice, i think he sould create a asmr channel lol
This comment is on every Jared interview ever. Along with, "I am a straight man, but Jared turns me on." LOL!
I want a whole movie of just Harley and Joker! PERIOD.
They should have made joker the main villain and kept all of his deleted scenes. I liked the movie but was kind of disappointed.
I wish Black Mask was the villain and get into some personal Vendetta with Amanda Waller leading to her using the Suicide Squad for her own gain instead and just have the Joker focused on Harley by taking out both Black Mask and Amanda Waller's organizations to get her back.
Thats what i thought..makes more sence instead of a forgetable pointless CGI villains with zero real meaning
suicide squad are made for going against meta humans not some human criminal mob boss.. they dont need a bunch of skilled villains to go against one joker... batman or other agents can go after him
+missStockholm Actually no. The Suicide Squad were originally formed to do the government's dirty work. Deal with foreign threats where the government couldn't directly intervene. Point is dealing with *spoilers* 😯 Enchantress was stupid, specially having the members of the justice league running around. Their villain should have been a non metahuman, specially not one as powerful as Enchantress. You seriously think Harley is better suited than Wonder Woman to deal with a metahuman? Come on!😂 I enjoyed the movie but I'm not blind to its flaws. 👎 I liked the characters but the movie was choppy and incoherent. I wish we got a bit more Joker; I couldn't really form an opinion on him.😉
Nayeli Ramos precisely criminal organizations like the League of Assassins, the Outlaws or like I mentioned before Black Mask's Organization would be perfect match for the Squad. Leave the Meta Humans for the JL.
That picture at 3:25. Damn no wonder the joker is hot.😍
those damn eyes
I'm already gonna pay like 160 bucks for the collectors edition Blu Ray with the Harley Quinn statue, add another disc to it with a rated R cut of the movie and ALL of Jared's deleted scenes and I'll pay an extra 20 or 30 bucks. I just want to see ALL the work he did.
Robert Marand hahahahah I can tell you right now - don't!
As long as we see Joker in other films im okay with it
+Me Underwears where has this been confirmed
+Me Underwears i cant find it anywhere so im calling ba
+Me Underwears bs
i hope so!! i really wanna see a spin off
+Crazy Cazzy me too! i really like jared leto as joker, he's actually kinda hot as that character xD 💕💓 and it's pretty weird that i'm atrracted to a psychopath... xd sry for bad eng
It was probably cut because they will make a spin-off....I'd rather see a Harley movie with the Joker in it....lol
Yeah Im sad we didn't see a lot of them but it sounds like it's going somewhere bigger now which I think is what they deserve. Rumors had it where he's more abusive and Harley breaks free from Joker and I think it's way too soon for that, I want to see them cause mayhem together as main characters. I'd love to see these deleted scenes and hopefully we will but I'm glad they didn't go with that storyline.
+Nick I agree with u on that, even the creator of Harley Quinn cried when he saw the film and saw how much Joker loves Harley and he likes that version better then the cartoon and comics, so do i im tired of the abusive shit its been done and its used and repetative and im glad the film when to a different take on Joker and Harley.
+Ruthie Blondet Exactly! Finally thank you
***** ur welcome, I think is right and fresh to have Joker finally love Harley because even psychopaths can love look at hannibal lector, red dragon, norman bates from psycho they all can feel love towards another person why can Joker, he can love Harley and I hope DC makes it this way and keeps it this way forever.
I want a spin-off sooo much
I LOVED his take on the joker. And Margot was just incredible as well. What they need to do is make an R rated movie that can really delve into that relationship. *That* would be something I'd want to see!
They should have done a short film that was released before the actual film, which covered the whole backstory of Harley and The Joker, that way suicide squad would have worked better.
omg thats such a good idea😊😊😊😊
MadAnnoyingShows yeah, not just Joker and Harley. There should have been a movie for all of the squad. They gave them all backstories (or most of them). They just needed something that showed what they could have done.
but Harley Quinn and The Joker movie is in the works as well as a Joker Origin movie (not played by jared leto tho.) Suicide Squad 2 is coming too.
It's a damn shame we didn't get to see that much of him, I really enjoyed what we saw of his take on the character. Too much studio involvement ruins films. Let the artists work.
Agreed.
👏👏
Yes!!
They knew he was gonna steal the show, and clipped his wings, to raise up the rest.
you understand
exactly.... but he needs to be careful not to express too much anger at his scenes being removed. studios and directors are not keen on their performers speaking out and going against the grain.
He need to go full Joker, and start drinking tigers blood. Show them what real WINNING is about. LOL
Amen my friend.. Amen! :(((
Yess
I rarely beg for more footage, but I'd gladly watch a 6 hour cut of this movie.
I love this Joker. The Joker should be scary and appealing and sexy. but also insane. he is the best joker yet.
Yes.
What the fuck kind of Joker have you watched
@@PohTrain this her opinion 😏 & i agree with her bcs that's my opinion
is it me or is it crazy how jared leto hides his anger really well? I think that's why he looks 's young, because if he's angry or frustrated about something he's able to vent it out very nicely. lol
Profession: actor.
+Louie Cafarella it has more to do than just that. I'm sure he practices meditating as well.
He is defo really sad and let down.. Imagine you feel like you have done your best work on a project and 80percent of it dosnt get shown or seen by anyone how sad would you be :/
Gareth Owen I'd be fuckin PISSED
wait he looks young bcuz he can hid his anger?? 😅
Of course we all want to see more of Mr.J! he's the freakin Joker for cryin out loud
why would they even advertise this movie so heavily based around the joker when he barely even in it? i was really disappointed when i saw the movie. it was okay, but the parts that really caught my attention were joker scenes.
Great actors joker and Harley hope they won't change them in next movies
Jared is my inspiration for how deep he went with his character and with him as joker I want a movie about it
Totally agree
couldn't agree more
His joker is a joke. There is no substance behind it
+Joseph agreed
Haters gonna hate
man Jared Leto looks sad and bummed out about the cut scenes :(
why wouldn't he be sad? all the hard work for nothing
I know, he was saying that he hopes we get to see them soon, he put so much effort into the character aswell 😔
I wish for a movie about the joker and Harley
You know, Jared is SO different from Joker. Like, I tried to find similarities between the two, and I couldn't find anything....
But at 3:24, you see a little bit of crazy in him.. like, "I'm going to murder someone if the Joker doesn't catch on."
Just like a, "I'm gonna go crazy," smile.
Melanie Larson this shows how good he is as an actor. It’s good that he is unrecognisable
WE NEED THE DELETED SCENES!!!!!!!!! :O I'm gonna be SO pissed if we never get them
ME TOO i need them .. i don't care about the problem i want more joker
YES!
we'll probably get those in bluray, like an ultimate edition we got for BvS....cuz without those scenes, the movie lost some great potential
Jared is the hottest joker id be crazy as harleen too
yeaaa
EXACTLY
EXACTLY
yasss
omg truuu
Interviewer : " where there any (scenes) that did get cut " . Jared :" where there any that didn't get cut ?" OMG GOT EEEEEM
they better make a DVD and bluray with nothing cut id buy that shit super fast that joker was super cool id love to see more of him
Jared was the sexiest joker I've ever seen in my LIFE, if they don't make him joker from now on and give him more screen time as the joker I will burn DC to the fucking ground!!
SOOO HOTT
yass sexy ass joker😍😍😍
I'll help you🙂
I'll help you🙂
I agree. I always thought the Joker was ugly, and old. Until I saw Jared Leto play as him. Well the Joker was still ugly, but his acting made him sexy.
I would pay double the price of ticket to see a joker and Harley movie. Fuck it I'll pay twice the price just to see all the scenes they cut from the movie
me too
I would sell my soul to see those scenes
exactly
why does DC gotta mind fuck us!
+Joan King It's Warner Bros, not DC
I think we all want Jared Leto's Joker back on screen!
Yaaaaaaaaas, Harley and Joker... make that movie! Call it Mad Love. ^_^
You are aware that the relationship between the Joker & Harley is super abusive... right? Like, this wouldn't be a romantic movie -- it would be a movie about a girl with stockholm syndrome & her abuser. Just letting you know what you're asking for.
Dr. Zoidberg
Not really in the context of how Suicide Squad set it up. Stockholm Syndrome would suggest that she spent a lot of time under his capture before she got all twisted. Rather, in the movie, it seems to suggest that she had some level of autonomy in her _decision_ to jump into the vat, which I appreciated, the same for the original cartoon, where she was already fascinated by him in the first place, and ended up falling in love with him.
It wouldn't be a traditional romance, no, and there might well be abuse in it. However, it could be viewed as a romance, potentially, particularly since Waller described them as "the king and queen of Gotham City, and God help anyone who disrespected the queen."
ChaoticButterfly I know. For instance, in this cut of the film where it looks like he pushes Harley out of the helicopter to save her, originally, he pushes her out to kill her before any shit goes down. I know at least one other scene where he hit her was cut.
The actual story of Harley Quinn & the Joker is that she was his psychiatrist in Arkham Asylum & her original name was Harleen Quinzel. Long story short, the joker was so manipulative that he basically broke her & turned her into a maniac, just like him. He never felt any true affection for her -- she was just a puppet for him.
That's why fans were so happy when she finally got the guts to leave him & hook up with Poison Ivy
Dr. Zoidberg
Yeah, I don't really have a problem with him hitting her. She probably hits him, at times, too. At least, that's what happened in Harley's first appearances. She'd reach her limit, then she'd turn on him, making him cower some.
Oh, I know her story quite well, which is why I said to call it "Mad Love," the story that shows her origin.
As for his feelings, Dini stated that Joker loved her as much as he was capable, which, given the Joker, isn't a whole lot, but it's something. Hell, at the end of No Man's Land, he launches her off in a rocket because he begins to realize he's starting to feel something softer for her, and he hates it.
-.- As a fan... FUCK the New 52 and all their bullshit...
I knew from your Mad Love comment that you knew it well. I was empathetically embarrassed when I was reading Zoidberg talking to you like you were a layman in the DC universe lol.
I really hope they make a joker and Harley movie cuz their relationship rly pulls me in and my attention
You mean their abusive relationship?
+Luiza Vazquez it's entertaining. Don't even try and argue mate their relationship is fun af to watch
+Luiza Vazquez yea, it's interesting to watch and see how manipulative the joker is, I'm not trying to say abusive relationships are good by the way.
+Luiza Vazquez I'm pretty sure that the movie relationship is WAAY different than the comic relationship.DC didn't make it abusive in the film.
I totally agree!!!!!
He's sounds so innocent in real life but in the movie he's frickin opposite
That's the mark of a good actor.
leto and margot did really crazy great acting there... you both nailed it! more more more!
#chemistry #youRock
As to why his Joker was cut so much, I would blame either the studio or the fans themselves. Movie studios want money at the end of the day, whether a movie is good or bad. Not to mention, DC and Marvel have been having a "size" fight for decades. DC is trying to churn out movies at the same pace as Marvel which is giving us the half-assed rushed movies with backwards plots. MoS, BvS, and Suicide Squad all had the potential to be amazing movies if they were done the right way. The Joker has to be dark in order to be done the right way. Yes, he's all about the "laughs" but even with that, he's still a psychopath that kills people. And in order to portray Harley and Joker the right way, THE RELATIONSHIP HAS TO BE ABUSIVE. Which is where I blame the fans. I'm sorry because I know that seeing an abusive relationship is a trigger for some people, but that's the only way to tell their story. I'm not saying they have to include the more brutal aspects but fact of the matter is, their relationship is essential to Harley's character. And whether he wants to admit this or not, it's clear that on some level, The Joker does care about Harley. He might not be in love with her but he does care. Have Harley hit him back a few times, have them argue, or have them throw knives at each other. Anything. But don't downplay what their relationship is. I blame this politically correct world we live in.
***** I agree.
yea, agreed, they shouldve just made the movie rated R like Jared said, that way most viewers would have an idea of what theyre going to watch.
Eve Tan man of steel was very good tho.
and wasn't rushed out in anyway
The movie really did suffer from not being rated r. I'm not happy about the scenes they cut out
Preach!
I feel as if suicide squad could have been better if they had more time to tell the story...
I feel the same! It felt rushed, and if it had been given more time they could have added a bit more depth and backstories to the characters. I loved it as it was though, and hopefully they'll make more in-depth spin offs in the future.
+xXBlackTeddyBearXx It's like they only give 2 min of the back story..like WTF that's not how's works.
That's what happens when you try to tell a 10 full character stories in 2 hours
+Josh If they can't then don't. They could make some movie about all these character before the ss movie. This movie is just disappointing
"if a film was ever gonna be rated r it should be the one about the villains"
!!!
They cut out all the stuff that defines the Harley-Joker relationship, which is historically extraordinarily abusive. In the comics and other media, Joker sees Harley as nothing more than a plaything that exists merely for his whims and amusement.
The DVD should just be a box set of different cuts of the movie. 😂
This thing is going to have more cuts than Blade Runner when it's all said and done.
that is the best idea ever
i can't wait till the dvd comes out and hopefully the deleted scenes will be there
Same
some of them wont because they even had scenes where Warner Bros had them go back and film something different. So like yeah very little deleted scenes will be shown on dvd. Even though they filmed sooooo much more than the deleted scenes the dvd is gonna have.
+leo_with_the_mane NOOOO
yeah :(
PLEASE
Leto's Joker would be so much better if the movie was rated R
Hell, heath ledger's joker also
+Jonathan Barranco nah Jared Leto is better
+KoDa ICK CREAM Heath was most definitely better
+TheLEGOEffects no not really because he wasnt a real Joker to me
+KoDa ICK CREAM can't really say you only saw no more than 20mins of The Joker so still questionable but I see potential
the cast are awesome, I love them all
If the next one is rated R I would die of a heart attack. -_-
Why
Eduar _RBC Because one, I'm a HUGE fan. And two, I'M 11 YEARS OLD *cries*
+Quickster AlphaAJ same I'm like NO NOOOOOO NOPE NOPE NADA!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
+Quickster AlphaAJ so you can enter with a adult to see it with u
Poopyy Shitt True
I'd appreciate a version where they didn't pussy out on showing the bad parts of the relationship as well. Don't get me wrong--I love the partnership, but I'm not faint of heart and I like the relationship multi-faceted. You can show them fighting and being cruel with each other and still exploring their twisted version of love x.x Guess we'll never get that level of character depth when the studio just wants money from the general audience. Ah well. I really want to see more of them, though.
Man, Joker/Harley Anties are just annoying, doesn't even understand both characters and only stay with Nu52!Harley like is the only Harley.
see i would argue that the joker really doesn't love harley, i would say he uses her and she is so obsessed she doesn't care. its a really sad relationship when you look beneath the surface.
Fair opinion. It doesn't have to be considered love, nothing by normal, socially acceptable standards certainly, I mean their definition of 'fun' would be murder so -- but I'm of the opinion that he is more attached to her than he'd ever admit. Does that even remotely count as some sort of affection? I dunno. Up to interpretation or whatever fits your view of them. The obsession might not be equal, but in some versions of them I think it definitely goes both ways. And yeah, If you look at the whole picture -- their lives are sad, period. Not just the relationship. Mentally unstable and constantly causing mayhem or being arrested. I still enjoy seeing this hot mess of a couple in action, tho.
There is no love, Harley is just a tool. It's wierd to see audiences really believing that this is literally a "relationship". I know Warner is fucking the original material, but to confuse people at this point is something scary.
Sigh. I read the comics. I know their history, I know all the arguments. I'm not fucking confused or new to the material so they aren't tricking me into seeing something. I personally don't like being given boring ass, easy, black and white excuses for character motives like 'Nope. He's incapable of this thing. Not even possible. Ever. In any incarnation because, reasons. If he does, someone wrote him wrong.' If someone wants to hit me with some reasoning behind that, like they consider Joker a psychopath and as a result, not emotionally capable of forming such attachments, then okay I see that perspective and I respect it. I personally consider him a sociopath, he used to be a somewhat normal individual like you or I and as he likes to claim, all it took was one bad day. While it would be impossible to have any sort of healthy relationship with another person, a sociopath can form attachments. No beautiful romance, hell no but uh...there is a relationship of some sort. I mean I know what you meant, but since the word covers the way any two people are connected, they do have one. I personally see it as another way to make the characters complex. Why is it easy to accept that Joker has some sick sort of infatuation with Bats that pisses all over the lines between love and hate, where he wants to shatter him to prove a point but thrives off their conflict at the same time--but he can't have something contradictory like that with Harley? To each their own, man--but that's just how I personally see the characters. We're not all gonna interpret things the same way--I mean look at New52. Some hate it, some love it--but my perspective isn't 'WB gave me Villains in love, AWWWW
Poor Jared and Margot. I mean seriously the movie was already long but some of the other stuff that was unnecessary should have been taken out.
it was shorter than BvS
The movie was corney....the best part of the movie WAS THE JOKER AND HARLEY STORY..that sucks that they cut so many scenes out...I heard a Harley movie us coming out..maybe it'll be in there...
I love how he literally breaks into character with this when he says "ohh I'm the joker" 😂😍
o shit the shade 0:48
if you cut scenes from the movie, dont fucking advertise them in the stupid trailers! And don't market the movie in such a way that makes everybody think that he would have a much more substantial role. That is literally one of the best ways to piss everybody off. Don't worry Jared, even if we dont get an extended cut, I think Ben Affleck will do you much more justice. What Margot said about having "too much" joker footage is beyond frustrating. If thats the case, then this was not the right movie to debut that character in. This movie could have benefited so much from a more street level story with the Joker as the big bad.
Yeah I remember seeing in the trailer the snippet of the joker with a burnt face and a grenade saying "BYE BYE" and I was waiting for that part during the movie. but it never came :(
+natalie lilly that was meant to be after his chopper crashed and he showed up to get Harley but she didn't come so he chucked a grenade and well bye bye
+Dylan Coleman that would've been so good. DAMN YOU WARNER BROTHERS
You can sign to request an extended cut here:
www.change.org/p/david-ayer-requesting-the-extended-version-of-suicide-squad-with-the-complete-scenes-of-jared-leto-as-the-joker-exigimos-version-extendida-de-la-pelicula-suicide-squad-con-todas-las-escenas-de-jared-leto-como-the-joker
Well fucking said
Idk why he's getting bashed. First of all he was probably in the movie for a whole 4 minutes. How in the living FUCK can anyone make an accurate assessment based on 4 minutes? I don't even know if that's right, it could be less. He completely transformed himself. Wait til he's the main villain and we get to see his sick, twisted schemes. Leto's Joker would be FUCKING PERFECT for an R rated film.
I believe he was in it for 15 minutes like wtf that's not enough time ;0 i was sad
Samantha Castillo I read that they wanted to focus more on the mission at hand, defeating Enchantress. Rather then too much on back stories. It left us wanting more so it's brilliant. I could watch 10 movies based on Harley and Joker alone! Lol
OMG thank you! finally someone smart and not that ,,only Heath Ledger, every other joker sucks" kind of human :-: of course all respect to Ledger but jeez it's really annoying that his fans don't let anybody else be a joker, even if he would be amazing, they still will say that he's shit and Heath is the best
+Louie Cafarella well it is SUICIDE SQUAD.. so maybe they shouldnt have joker at all cuz u know he's the main star no matter what n even if he's there for 5 min ppl would want him more n care less for the 2 hour main story
missStockholm that'd never work. If you have Harley you almost certainly have to have Joker. Especially since this is her big screen debut.
We need a HARLEY and joker spinoff
Does anyone find Jared so damn CUTE LIKE WHY ISN'T ANYONE TALKING ABOUT JARED LOL
I REALLY WANT A HARLEY AND JOKER MOVIE!!!!! ♥♥♥♥♥♥ R RATED. SEX, PROFANITY AND VIOLANCE ALL OF THAT SHIT YAS PLS.
2020 mate. ☺ I Bet.
+Outcast Gamer did u really just object against that?
+Outcast Gamer no it won't. They're a couple.
+Outcast Gamer Yes but now they want to change their relationship a bit. Ofc still have those twisted and abusive moments. But a lot of fans wants to see bit of a romantic Joker and Harley relationship.
+Some Guy I mean it wasn't confirmed or denied if they did or didn't 👀👀and in some comics Harley has a kid doesn't she
i think jared leto is scarier than jared letos joker
LOL
sad but true xD
I agree. Soft spoken and natural people are really scary.
The things Jared Leto did to his cast mates in real life are scarier than his cartoon "method" baloney!
Ya because we got fuck all of his real performance
yall both kill it .. we need a movie no lie I'm obsessed lol
I actually loved the Jared Leto Joker
I'd be pissed if I were him
I think he is he is not expressing it in front of the camera
He seems pretty pissed to me, he's just a very composed person I think
This is him pissed :p
i really liked how in the movie the joker cared and loved harley quinn. I do hope they make a joker/Harley quinn movie
That's not how the relationship really is. With changes and cuts you barely get the idea but the scene in the car proves that Harley lives for the Joker but not vice-versa at all.
+Pedro Nascimento oh believe me i know their true relationship well i read the comics im just really saying that it was nice to see the joker cared about harley but yeah i get the point
+1XSilencer I totally agree. I love the pairing (however I do not in any way condone abusive relationships) and it was nice to see a new version of their relationship. I would like to see more of this. It would be awesome if DC changed joker's abusiveness into oppession like Harley's; like in this movie. I get that "that's not how their relationship works", but come on, stories change and characters change all the time, especially when they have been around for so long. So yeah, there's my two cents :)
+lillian layne-cotter me too! Not enough people understand that comic book movies can deviate from the comics a little to keep characters and concepts fresh. I personally really liked this dynamic
Am I the only one that saw him crash the car with her in it and bailed while he left her for the batman ?? It's literally in the first 15 minutes.
The way he was portried by Leto was really good, but the fact that he was barely in the film was sad af :c More people would probably like the film, too, if they didn't cut out all those scenes. A lot of my friends keep commenting to me that like he is only a sellout for the movie because he was barely in it, but when you get to see that there's a bunch of scenes he did that the editor cut out..
omg joker which is jared is literally everything💜💚💜💚💜💚
I WANT A SOLO JOKER MOVIE!!!!!
All in favor say aye
+Kulsum Haq aye
We've seen joker origins story so much
A prequel with the Killing Joke story arc maybe or Death of the Family (Jason Todd's death), which would take place 10 years before?
So Joker just sitting in a room by himself?
Can we get a
Suicide Squad : Joker Edition
Plz
I want that for my next blu ray
yesss
There is a petition where you can sign for just that and it will be sent to Warner Bros. Over 300 people have signed it so hopefully it'll work especially since he's not happy either.
+Kayla Boo I've signed like 2 or 3 different petitions.. do u have the link to this one you're talkin abt?
+missStockholm You can sign it here www.change.org/p/warner-brothers-we-want-a-suicide-squad-joker-cut?recruiter=584749235&
the voice of jared leto 😍 just close your eyes and let the magic begin
#joker
i watched because tha joker was in it ....needs more joker
They fucked up, they messed the Joker up, Leto did the best with what he was given and when it didn't work with test audiences they cut most of his scenes, who can blame the guy for being pissed.
From what I hear the test screening was absolutely loved, some saying it should have debut the DCEU not BvS. Idk why they would change it if that's the case.
+Alexander McKnight There were 3 screenings 2 were well received, the other was terrible apparently. Probably the one most critics saw, that or DC didn't pay them as well as Sony.
Hate to say this but the critics dont really have much idea what fans like. There are many films I have seen and loved that have been reviewed really badly. I wish they left it the way it was with all the joker scenes. I think Jared leto was well cast and I enjoyed him a lot.
Not just critics audience didn't like the movie either
If there was too much Joker, it wouldn't have been a Suicide Squad movie, it would be a Joker & Harley movie.
Would 15 more min. of Joker and Harley really have taken the attention off the rest of the squad? I seriously fucking doubt it.
+Jared Holm
yeah because the movie was 2 hours long and 15 min. of joker wouldnt ruin it
Absolutely NOTHING against them AT ALL, I'm just saying that they tried to give a nice balance but yes if they included 15mins more, it would have been even better in MY opinion.
It wouldn't have been a problem if that was the plan from the start. The fact is that they got an extremely talented recent OSCAR WINNER and basically just used him and the character of The Joker to pull in viewers to come watch the movie. Almost every single Joker scene in the movie was in the trailers. The real problem is that they hyped Jared's performance of The Joker up so fucking much, only to make Leto and his preparation of the role look half-assed. If they hadn't used him as bait to get the general audience to see the movie, as well as making him do so much work and film a shit ton of scenes just to cut almost all of them out in the end WB wouldn't be getting so much hate. However, the scumbags that run Warner Bros. decided they would make this man look like an asshole just because they think they know what the audience will like. This movie was created for THE FANS and WB turned it into a movie that would please the GENERAL AUDIENCE. Which, by the way, they absolutely failed at.
+Bárbara Peixoto lol there were more scenes about the daughter and deadshot then there were of Harley and Mr.J
His voice is so calming and relaxing😂
More Joker and Harley!! They need their own movie, I loved their back storie
I want all of their scenes on the DVD please.
Ikr! I want an extended version just like for Batman Vs Superman!!
The sheeps will buy cinema tickets and the extended cut blue-ray. This is kinda of cute, actually. Faithful fans is something ironic and interesting at the same time.
me too
DVD? WTF is a DVD?
*****
What kind of funky fresh 60s shit is that?
I hope they make a movie about joker and harley tbh, i ship it lol i can't help it😍😂😂
i agree ! 😭😍
I hope there is more of them in movie 2
absolutely make it rated r
They want to literally kill eachother and you ship them? lol
+MarshallZPie M. yes. I know they that want to kill each other because they have issues, but I also ship them because they are my favorite villains & because they are a dynamic duo. That's just my opinion.
Best Joker I have seen, mind bending:)
I am watching back to back this movy only for joker ... This joker version is best .. ❤️❤️ love it...