JOHN AND CYNTHIA CALL IT QUITS

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  • Опубліковано 24 лип 2023
  • Hello everyone and welcome back to The Beatles Forever. This is the last video regarding the book John by Cynthia Lennon. We have reached the end of the road for John, Cynthia and Julian. What happened that led to the break up? We will find out now.

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  • @jesse2d
    @jesse2d Рік тому +32

    The Beatles were worldwide superstars and were experiencing life at an unprecedented pace. Every type of drug, food, fame, booze, women, and cultural experiences came to them in a few short years. Most people wouldn't have experienced these things if they lived multiple lifetimes. In many ways it was hard for them to handle it and John in particular was ill equipped emotionally to be a father and a good husband. He wasn't even a good husband to Yoko. Self absorbed and jealous of Paul's success he had no time for Julian which is a shame. As a singer/songwriter he was most gifted but as a person he left a lot to be desired.

    • @jsmusic1217
      @jsmusic1217 Рік тому +1

      he made the right choice, he knew he wasn't gonna be a good father with the beatles in full swing.

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba Рік тому +6

      sorry he was a narcissistic pos, everything had to be about him, he was incapable of real empathy. He switched to childish dependency w Yoko but still not an adult relationship.

    • @jsmusic1217
      @jsmusic1217 Рік тому +2

      @@scrambaba he was the opposite of a narcissist, he was always the first one to tell you the Beatles were just a band, nothing more. also if you think john was a pos , then your misguided. his friends and family dont think that about him and they love him. but there will always be haters somewhere in the world IG

    • @scrambaba
      @scrambaba Рік тому +3

      @@jsmusic1217 A narcissist makes everything about themselves. Lennon being one is consistent with him trashing the Beatles (which he did repeatedly from about 1968 to 1972 or so) when it promoted his interest to do so. Narcissists are also often extremely charming and attractive people on the outside. It is only the people in the very inner circle of intimacy that have to deal with the toxic personality and behaviour. Lennon being a narcissist is consistent with being popular and even loved by many. Lennon used May Pang for a year and dropped her like yesterday‘s news when Yoko called him. He abandoned his first family just like his own father abandoned him. Lennon‘s self-centred behaviour is not even open to question. If you did something he didn‘t like, look out pal, he would be nasty as hell. Once he got his way, the charm would come back on. Classic narcissism. They tend to mellow as they get older and it is possible that Yoko was able to find ways to smooth the roughest edges but in later years he was more or less free of any entsnglements that would trigger the worst behaviours.

    • @jsmusic1217
      @jsmusic1217 Рік тому +1

      @@scrambaba he was just being real, its not like he was doing it to benefit himself, HE WAS IN the beatles. Also lennon was not "charming" on the outside, he would outright tell people to piss off if he felt like it. And also he didnt "use" may pang, yoko set up their relationship for them until they could get things figured out. and yes he did leave his son for a while because he was busy touring and in the studio half way across the globe, he was the first to admit he wasn't as good as a father as he shouldve been. and yes he could be nasty but he could also be an angel, he wasn't perfect he was a human being.

  • @gogoyubari366
    @gogoyubari366 Рік тому +19

    Cynthia was very pretty!

  • @TheNewSoda
    @TheNewSoda Рік тому +20

    4:07 I don't know really what would be worse for Cynthia to put up with John obviously cheating on her with Yoko or a so-called friend trying to force himself on to Cynthia I mean both are pretty messed up is shity situations for Cynthia to be in
    Despite being a John Lennon fan I think this was a hundred percent John Lennon's fault

  • @AiMR
    @AiMR Рік тому +24

    Great musician. POS husband and father.

    • @Keith_X
      @Keith_X 7 місяців тому

      I’m pretty sure he was waist deep in heroin and not the same person everyone used to know. Not an excuse for being a turd, but it makes sense as to why

    • @delainepep22
      @delainepep22 6 місяців тому

      Well for a little time he was great to Cynthia he hit her once and he never did it again. Go listen to Cynthia reading her book about John. It's on youtube and it is very very good. I have the book but haven't read it.

    • @emc3748
      @emc3748 3 місяці тому

      Yes

    • @ellonysman
      @ellonysman 2 місяці тому

      Ya, never understood people worshipping what are no more then real people in unreal situations!

  • @vadouis-rt3of
    @vadouis-rt3of Рік тому +20

    It seems to me that John treated Cynthia cruelly to ease his guilt over his adultery.

    • @delainepep22
      @delainepep22 7 місяців тому +1

      He did this before he slept with yoko

    • @vadouis-rt3of
      @vadouis-rt3of 7 місяців тому +4

      @@delainepep22 True. But one must remember that John slept with a lot of women during his Beatlemania years while he was married to Cynthia.

    • @antoinettewitt2098
      @antoinettewitt2098 3 місяці тому +2

      None of the Beatles were true to their wives.

  • @byronchurch
    @byronchurch Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the dose of reality ! We all shine on . For a while . ❤

  • @jamesmcgowen1769
    @jamesmcgowen1769 4 місяці тому +1

    God bless you young lady who reads to us ❤
    You read the text so well, and bring a woman’s perspective with it.
    Julian, Yoko and Sean are the only one’s left of this madhouse that John had no idea about.

  • @janicekassner7654
    @janicekassner7654 Рік тому +20

    As usual, the first wife that made all the sacrifices before the Beatles were famous gets the short end of the deal. Pushed aside like yesterday's newspaper, not acknowledged or treated fairly by any means.And his own son as well. As the child of divorced parents, I can relate.

    • @user-jz6pq4zx3e
      @user-jz6pq4zx3e Рік тому

      What sacrifice? She wasn't good at anything in terms of having a career. John was a bad boy at college and she was attracted to him. Good girls getting attracted to bad boys is a known thing. She dumped her then normal boyfriend for John. She got lucky that Beatles happened. Her next two marriages failed as well. She lost most of the money she got in alimony. In fact she changed her last name back to Lennon to make more money.
      His son got a raw deal though.

    • @conchitamacario2599
      @conchitamacario2599 Рік тому +7

      @@user-jz6pq4zx3eBeing a full time mother is a career. See how Julian turned out to be.

  • @gusjackson3658
    @gusjackson3658 3 місяці тому +6

    He abandoned his son then complained endlessly to sympathetic journalists that he had been abandoned as a boy.
    Where was the overdue confrontation re his hypocrisy?

  • @Nina5144
    @Nina5144 6 місяців тому +4

    That woman made a beeline for John (and Paul previously and he kept a wide distance). Poor John, manipulated and controlled believing he was happy. You can see by the photos with Ono, he just wasn’t the same.

  • @anjaliradhe
    @anjaliradhe Рік тому +4

    And the same things go on with non celebrities.
    Brings you down to earth about idolising people though I guess.
    I love John's music.
    It's a great influence.
    Celebrities also give bad influence.
    Everyone has their faults and talents.
    Seems he was equally endowed with faults and talents.
    And then suddenly no more.
    An unusual life, amazing music but really I feel so sorry for poor Cynthia and Julian.
    They however learned from the experience and found peace in forgiveness

  • @philblane5752
    @philblane5752 Рік тому +12

    It would be one thing if Cynthia came back and found John with Brigette Bardot; but to find him with someone like this. Reminds me of the thing with Maria Schriver and Arnold where Arnold was banging some housekeeper that looked like Danny Devito. Cynthia's mind must have been blown to bits. Then to find out about Yoko's (ahem) unique talents, would only add to the irony. If all of that wasn't bad enough, Lennon expected all of us to feel the same way about her as he did. Alas, it would have been impossible for someone to achieve the level of fame that Lennon did without going sightly insane.

    • @richardsoderkvist6383
      @richardsoderkvist6383 2 місяці тому +3

      I don't know why he would leave her for Yoko Ono. Cynthia was such a beautiful pretty kind lovely woman. I'd sure love to have a girlfriend wife like her.

    • @kimbradley9595
      @kimbradley9595 2 місяці тому

      Hahaha so true wanna know what drugs he was taking maybe she was into whips and chains and he liked that

    • @kimbradley9595
      @kimbradley9595 2 місяці тому

      No one liked her I still don't

    • @alfx5432
      @alfx5432 Місяць тому

      ​@@kimbradley9595who

    • @alfx5432
      @alfx5432 Місяць тому

      Cynthia was by far better looking we know that, very classy, yoko was just different maybe it was the drugs.

  • @peterchaloner2877
    @peterchaloner2877 14 днів тому

    Pleasant voice, congenial lady presenter. Thank you.🎉

  • @vadouis-rt3of
    @vadouis-rt3of 6 місяців тому +3

    On Family Guy, Stewie threatened someone with the words "If you don't do what I say. I will do to you what I did to John Lennon..."(flashback to John being introduced to Yoko by Stewie) "John, have you met Yoko? Yoko, John."

  • @mikeystheone
    @mikeystheone Рік тому +6

    when i hear that old saying, love is blind, i think of john and yoko

    • @vadouis-rt3of
      @vadouis-rt3of 7 місяців тому +4

      John Lennon falling in love with Yoko Ono while at the height of his taking LSD, marijuana and other mind altering drugs is the one good reason NOT to do drugs.

    • @Nina5144
      @Nina5144 6 місяців тому +1

      John must have been deaf too (as well as blind). He honestly couldn’t have heard her ‘singing’.

  • @scrambaba
    @scrambaba Рік тому +7

    What a hypocrite - Imagine all the people….except me of course I can treat my people like crap. Cynthia shoulda got a better lawyer and done a Phil Collins to Lennon and cleaned the blackguard out.

  • @keithsurland5856
    @keithsurland5856 5 місяців тому +1

    I do not approve of Lennon’s morals and anti-theist statements, but I been following your very interesting videos. You have a great humility in your voice and do this without phony fanfare I hear in a lot of videos. I remember that rainy Tuesday morning when a business associate told me that John Lennon was shot and died.
    I as a kid heard my older siblings playing Beatle songs.
    Thank you for your great work that you do.

    • @thebeatlesforever
      @thebeatlesforever  5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much for liking my videos. I appreciate it.

  • @ThePixey1000
    @ThePixey1000 2 місяці тому +4

    When a person takes away a husband and then gets them to break all ties with their past and calls that love its BS. Its about a agenda other wise they would not be threatened by their past. Yoko didnt love John she wanted to own him like a possession jonh was just being used.

  • @paulfitzgerald2673
    @paulfitzgerald2673 Рік тому +3

    Very sad

  • @queeniepeaches3972
    @queeniepeaches3972 Рік тому +2

    Why did my dumbass gasped like this just happened 😂😂

  • @lexmark2951
    @lexmark2951 Рік тому +5

    Shame on John!!!... Well he's dead now. He's forgiven, by those who loved him dearly. Julian... Specially

    • @delainepep22
      @delainepep22 7 місяців тому +1

      Cynthia forgave him. I seen many videos from her book with her reading

    • @vadouis-rt3of
      @vadouis-rt3of 7 місяців тому +1

      @@delainepep22In her last book, Cynthia wrote that if she could do it all over again, she would ignore John Lennon and go on with her life. I do not believe that because she would not have had Julian. In addition, in the song, "Don't Let Me Down," where he sang "I'm in love for the first time," is a lie. I do believe that he truly loved Cynthia. I also believed that John, when taking Julian to Disneyland in 1973, was feeling guilty for his leaving Cynthia. She was walking a few paces behind John and Julian with John ignoring her. Just awful.

  • @ellonysman
    @ellonysman 3 місяці тому +1

    Just read her book "John" and was nice to hear it all from her point if view. That Aunt Mimi was a troubled lady. Should I call her a lady?😮

  • @CelebFactsQuotes
    @CelebFactsQuotes 3 місяці тому +1

    In another universe, John stuck with Cynthia, Had 6 kids with her, moved to a ranch close to Paul, and helped Julian and the rest of his kids produce Legendary next generation Lennon Records

  • @richardbanker3910
    @richardbanker3910 3 місяці тому +2

    This episode puts John in the worst light although there are good sides to his character. John and Yoko attracted what was worst in their characters and were co dependent

  • @franciscallullriera6803
    @franciscallullriera6803 Місяць тому +1

    Cynthia escribio en su libro una anecdota de Julian con su padre que retrata perfectamente como era John como persona. Julian pasaba unos dias con su padre y una vez se puso a reir a carcajadas,John miro a su hijo y le dijo que odiaba su risa 😢 Cynthia conto que desde este momento Julian jamas volvio a reir fuerte,solo sonreia. Y si se fijan en Julian de adulto solo hace media sonrisa,y sus ojos nunca sonrien. Asi era John,un gran musico pero una pesima persona.

  • @kevinwaters5872
    @kevinwaters5872 9 місяців тому +2

    John wasn’t looking for anything so much as for a mother. Hence Yoko. Cynthia was lucky to be shod of him. Look how it all turned out.

  • @jsigur157
    @jsigur157 5 місяців тому +1

    A fast way to lose your lover's respect is to put up with their shit.

  • @benwright6330
    @benwright6330 6 місяців тому +3

    What if she would've said okay and Paul married her

  • @trillioncrowns
    @trillioncrowns Рік тому

    lovee it! imagine a video on the beatles Pets! like martha

  • @charwest9449
    @charwest9449 11 місяців тому +13

    The more I find out about "John and Yoko" and especially how they treated others, the less respect I have for them. A couple of self centered takers so messed up, so juvenile, yet presuming that they were so above everyone else that they should now go around telling everyone how to live. Their lives are a textbook example of what NOT to do if you are lucky enough to find fame and fortune.

    • @charwest9449
      @charwest9449 11 місяців тому +6

      There is a putrid stench of betrayals, dirty dishes, drugs and lying about on stained mattresses, that they give off -- leaving all normal human work to others. Yoko didn't even do her own "art" but hired students to gather the materials and put them together.

    • @skywalkersbutido6375
      @skywalkersbutido6375 6 місяців тому +4

      At least you had respect for them unlike me,don’t get me wrong i love Lennon as an artist but his ways regarding human relationships has always been appalling to me.

    • @charwest9449
      @charwest9449 6 місяців тому +1

      @@skywalkersbutido6375 Can't blame you there.

  • @jeffreyjacobs390
    @jeffreyjacobs390 4 місяці тому +2

    John ran his mouth .... about anything ..... considered his bully pulpit a justified weapon to inform, condescend .... he betrayed his wife Cynthia ... their son ... took up with a woman of absolutely no talent whatsoever and worse screamed into a microphone - in absence of any melodic skill - got in the way of the Beatles unity, came to recording sessions NEVER ALLOWED before .... in general CREATED CHAOS ..... and finally did stupid things on camera and in commentary without thought of consequence .... which in the end brought the attention of a disturbed man trying to impress Jody Foster ! I thought much higher of the other Beatles - especially Paul .... who proved to be most talented and successful post Beatlemania ! GBjj

  • @johnnada6855
    @johnnada6855 5 місяців тому +4

    John was a very messed up person that was trying to be normal but can´t, that was the problem, he had everything, he achieved everything but he couldn´t be happy, his dark side came up with Yoko without a doubt, she was highly disturb as him, or worse, and John was a heavy drug addict by that time, so that is that., Cynthia should have realized that John had too many issues to be a normal person

    • @thebeatlesforever
      @thebeatlesforever  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for your comments. It did seem like he couldn't be happy for very long.

  • @dianesaari3034
    @dianesaari3034 11 місяців тому +5

    More like John dumps Cynthia and Julian for insecure unknown "artist".

  • @50scap3
    @50scap3 Рік тому +14

    This has always been a terrible example of what a selfish, heartless, cowardly punk John could be. All his peace/love posturing what hypocritical.

    • @jsmusic1217
      @jsmusic1217 Рік тому +2

      its not posturing, it was redemption and realism. john was being real and recognized his faults, more than what most people do.
      how is it hypocritical if he learned from his mistakes and never did it again?

    • @skywalkersbutido6375
      @skywalkersbutido6375 6 місяців тому +3

      @@jsmusic1217because he released imagine around this time and he was contradicting of himself,obviously.

  • @skywalkersbutido6375
    @skywalkersbutido6375 6 місяців тому

    Paul the ultra gent.I love him so much.

  • @lovelyandsmartcommentator5130
    @lovelyandsmartcommentator5130 Рік тому +2

    John was a confused liar.

  • @benwright6330
    @benwright6330 6 місяців тому

    He set her up with his friend as a strategy so he'd have amunition when she put her legs up.

  • @ManiacNewf
    @ManiacNewf 10 місяців тому

    Brutal

  • @Joe-bx4wn
    @Joe-bx4wn Рік тому +2

    She married a Rock Star. What you expect?

    • @yves2694
      @yves2694 11 місяців тому

      She didn't . They married just before the Beatles got really famous. Not all rock stars are pigs.

    • @Nina5144
      @Nina5144 6 місяців тому +2

      He wasn’t well known when they married.

    • @Joe-bx4wn
      @Joe-bx4wn 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Nina5144 If you and me knew Lennon in art school, we'd say he was a trouble maker/ bully

    • @ritamattioli7524
      @ritamattioli7524 5 місяців тому +1

      Respect and loyalty

  • @mdillon4311
    @mdillon4311 Рік тому +5

    Cynthia forgave John. We have to come to terms that the times they had were good. Things changed so rapidly one could have only imagined that all the Beatles faced divorce with the exception of Paul. Paul cheated on Jane before Linda was in the picture. George cheated with Maureen during his marriage to Patti. Maureen cheated on her marriage to Ringo. People you need to mind your own business if you are up in arms about what fame did to the Beatles. I mean the facts remain John couldnt have been perfect no matter what fame did to him1 I wouldnt expect him to have known how to handle the world at his feet the way it happened to him.