The Tim Miller Arpeggio Book
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2020
- Here I go over how I use the Tim Miller 2-1-2 Arpeggio Technique book in my practice routine. This is a great book for creating modern sounding arpeggios.
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Video of Tim Miller explaining the system:
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The fastest way to internalize new vocabulary is to sing it before you play it. It also helps to focus on simple elementary phrases that can later be combined to more complex phrases, eg. start with 2 to 3 note phrases.
Thank you Mikko for not just a book review, you actually go beyond and include how YOU use this book to enrich your music. Because you did that, you are giving your watchers a means to make their own way.
I have been working out of a Joe Diorio book called "Intervallic Designs" and i noticed similar shapes, but he breaks them up, he doesn't play the notes in order from low to high, but creates groupings of intervals in an almost random fashion. I think that is more exciting than just playing arps. Of course Mr. Diorio had his own conception and technique. But I really dig the way he uses common material in an uncommon way.
Tim Miller style is untouchable. He is a guitar alien. Thanks for the review bro.
One important aspect of this concept that you need to include in studying these is the intervallic sound of each arpeggio. This is better explained in his Creative Arpeggio book. The three sounds that the arpeggios are based upon is 1)thirds;2)fourths and then fifths.
This is the most important aspect sound-wise.
I can't find a book with that name? :( Are you talking about his TrueFire lesson called Creative Arpeggio Design? I wanna check it out
Excellent explanation!
Brilliant video, thank you for sharing! I got a lot from it to incorporate in my practice.
Tim Miller is awesome, and i do appreciate how much this material is up for interpretation
Wow, this is brilliant! Thank you so much!
Great lesson as always Mikko, you are very good at this :)
The wisdom of how to learn vocabulary is priceless Thank you!!!!
Man, I just discovered you I have been playing jazz guitar for a while as a hobby and looking for more advanced stuff thank you. You deserve more subscribers, keep up the good work cheers.
Great video!!! I definitely gonna get the book. I'm using Adam Kadmon books right now, almost the same concept as Tims book, but your approach for practicing is what I was messing up, taking your approach to study. Thank you.
This book is incredible and it is helping revitalize my boring arpeggios. Thank you Mikko.
Thanks for your introduction to this book. Your idea of taking the information and incorporating it into your own playing is right on. I started practicing alternate picking on an acoustic guitar decades ago. Although I'm using less pick in more recent years, I'll never be picking like Tim Miller. The information in this book can certainly be interpreted and applied to my own approach. I'd love to compare our music libraries one day... I've been collecting music books since the mid 1970's. ✌😄 Thanks again Mikko!🙏
Mikko, every serious guitarist should watch this video, and internalize your comments on how to use Tim’s excellent book (or any good material!). I think that’s Tim’s intention as well - use the material to add to what we already know (and how we’ve developed that knowledge). You really articulated that well here! Indeed, especially in this information overload age, it’s so easy, and common, to forget to use something we’ve woodshedded, when in a performance context! Your analogies are spot on! Happy holidays, and stay safe👍😄.
Man you’re one of the best book reviewers/instructors on UA-cam!
😮 thank you
Another great vid. Thx!
Thank you for the review and the demonstration. I bought the book. It looks very interesting.
I think you will enjoy working with this book
Cool arpeggio book, good review. That Maj7 arp you came up with reminds me of a Marty Friedman shape. He usually plays it on on string set as a sequence. I’m seeing this Maj7 shape as a similar sequence just played on three different string sets (6-5, 4-3, and 2-1). It also helps me to think about the scale degrees that I’m playing from with this one. Very cool!
Cheers mate I didn't know this existed .Just ordered the book
Tim Miller is a beast. Just listened his record yesterday.
Yes he is amazing
Excellent explanation of the information in the book. Also appreciate acknowledging the pitfalls of too much information and what can practically be used. I suppose these arpeggios work best in modal type tunes, and may be less helpful in jazz standards where the chords are moving by quickly, and maybe the listener needs the artist to help define the melody by using more accessible chord tone arpeggios. Still great to be aware of this approach! Thanks!
Tim also has an online site for his lessons that's a pretty reasonable price for a subscription.
Looking forward to this! 🙏
😎👍
@Tales Bernardi D'addario 10s 😎👍
Very interesting player and idea-I have his true fire course have not used it enough
Thank you for the interesting video!
Just ordered from Amazon.
An interesting idea to structure scales and sounds awesome! but i think it is much more valuable to figure the structures by yourself, you ll learn much more.
Hope all is Well! Thank you for reviewing this book. Will get it as soon as possible.
As this is the end of the year, could you tell or make a list of your favorite books and materials of 2019/2020?
Thanks for Everything!!
Great playing. A dj could remix just the first few moments of this video and create a great track.
The new backdrop is a lot better! Can you do a video about your whole book collection? Great channel and content :)
Yes ig works better. I need some kind of background lighting. I could do a top ten list or something 🤓
Thanks ! Big stuff
Nice thanks for the video
Thanks for this Mikko
Actually, 2-1-2-1-2 was Chuck Wayne method of playing arpeggios for horn bebop phrases.
Check out two books by Chuck Wayne. Chuck did three books but only two are still in print; "Chords" and "Scales". Chuck Wayne is one of the most brilliant players and thought it up before others did. Also, Chuck felt modes were limiting and unnecessary. Listend closely to Chuck Wayne his playing is way above most, but he early on and never really got the same recognition as others after him.
Interesting! Thanks. I'll look into it 😎👍
Great video! Love that D. Angelico. Very Beautiful....
About 20 minutes in, you start tossing in these beautiful chords at the ends of phrases. I would love to learn more about those voicing -- they sounded magical.
That's a Mike Stern- trick 😎 Imagine a Cmaj7 in 7th position...play stack of fourths from the E onbthe 5th string but with a fifth on the two highest strings so there will be a D on the high E-string 😎😎
@@Mikkokosmos Thanks for explaining; good stuff.
15:05 me 😂😂
Actually bought this book when I saw you were going to premiere a video for it. Definitely cool stuff! Very very cool sounds in there. Only thing is that I kind of wish that his diagrams were a little more organized, as they seem to be just randomly thrown on to the page.
Are they not organized after the shapes he explains in the beginning? To some degree?
@@Mikkokosmos It's possible that I may have missed some sort of explanation about the way he has organized them. I can see that they are organized some sort of way, and upon further inspection, I can begin to see some pattern in the way he has them laid out. However when I go into making arpeggio charts like these for myself, I tend to consider the direction in which my hand is traveling, as well. For example, I can ascend in generally three different directions - to the left, to the right, and straight down. I did end up kind of rearranging some of his charts to better aid myself visually. Also, I liked your idea of selecting some that you like and beginning to work them in to your mindscape, rather than trying to consume all of them. When thinking about that, organizational matters like mine can be less important. I am by no means ungrateful for his work; alas, it was just a thought I had about the presentation. Thank you for inquring!
I have been working on some of the Tim Miller arpeggios as referenced in his Truefire course. (Just 5 or 10 minutes per day) I am finding some of his arpeggios and fingerings to be ergonomically challenging. Almost feel that I am twisting my body to play these. Almost wonder if these are more easily played on something other than the 16" 1 3/4 nut archtop guitars that I normally play.
The book is now available on Amazon.
I think if you buy it directly from his website the money goes to him with no middle hand. But I'm not sure.
I studied music long time ago and I learned my scales: major, minor natural, dominant, etc. Only much later did I realize they are also sometimes called Ionian, Aeolian, Mixolydian, etc. I am in tune with Jens Larsen here. It's probably good to know that modes exist, then quickly move on.
For this book you need to know the modes of the major, melodic and harmonic minor scales as well as symmetrical scales. You need to know them in and out or you won't have much use for this book I'm afraid. Knowing modes is absolutely essential. I think Larsens point is that we don't need them when we're learning to improvise over standards. But for modal Jazz we obviously need them
Hi Mikko. I got a physical copy from Amazon UK. I think it is print on demand sort of thing from Amazon.
Oh cool. We just got amazon here in Sweden 😃
I got his video from Truefire on this. Do you think these techniques could be used with chord melody compositions?
You must have your own library by now. 😉
The sooner you incorporate your licks into your playing the quicker you learn them. When I've played a new idea so many times whilst improvising and am fed up with it, that's when I know it properly and it becomes part of my repertoire. Just saying. (Learn to move into, and out of it). But you know this. ❤
I'm glad you applied it to a tune. Does Tim Miller have any book where he covers how to use arpeggios over say 2-5-1 or how to transition to something that sounds less like an exercise?
He has a true fire video lesson
Hello, could you recommend a good book for learning the standards, chords and melodies, with tableture please? I brought a Joe pass book but it was a little too advanced for me and its just the solos. Many thanks in advance. I'll be checking this one too....
Perhaps not what you are looking for, but I would higly recommend Mike Morenos videos from My Music Masterclass series. He is all about transcribing when it comes to learning tunes. All of his videos are fantastic by the way. This might not be easy. but I think its all about finding good recordings with the tunes you love. Even if Miles takes great liberties with the meledy, his playing gives away so much important content and information. Good luck!
i have the book and its great. thanks for the vid! which one do you demo at 18:12 ? I love the sound
I think it was one from the dorian mode 😎😎😎
Now time to pick up that trumpet 🎺 and do the same arpeggio ideas. 😆
I wish 😬
@@Mikkokosmos lol. Give it a try :)
Does the book utilize tab or music reading?
Hi Mikko, I enjoyed that and shall get Tim Miller's book. Another question if I may - as I'm currently evaluating amps, looking to retire my ancient Peterson PG100. I see you have a Quilter amp and cabinet, which models are they and do you have any observations on them?
I have the Quilter 101. It's great but I regret not getting the more advanced version that has balanced output. The Cabinet is ok I haven't really compared it with anything. I'm also using an acoustic amp at the same time 😎👍
@@Mikkokosmos Thanks Mikko.
do you know if it has arps that start on the 5th string cause I can figure out how to make them work that well
Yes I think that I mention that somewhere in the video. The book has arps starting on the 5th string as well 🙂
Is the hybrid your idea or is it also presented in Tim's book for all the arpeggios?
No that's Tim's idea but it's not explained in this book. He talks about this in his online lessons some of which are on UA-cam. Just type "Tim Miller hybrid picking" and it should come up :)
Interesting, and so applicable! But seriously, you have to stop this book thing soon, otherwise I'll have to get another bookshelf too... :-D PS. Just received the one about comping... Will be my Christmas entertainment.
I hope you will enjoy it. And I have ordered like five books that are on the way 😅
I see a trumpet back there! I am trying to learn trumpet and jazz guitar - I am wondering how you apply the guitar info to the trumpet so you don't have to learn the same stuff twice? Any thoughts? Thanks :)
I used to play as a child but can't play anymore 😪😪😪 I learned to play the trumpet first
@@Mikkokosmos sometimes I wish i could stay focused and content on one thing - but for me it is a hobby only, so i have the luxury of being able to be terrible a whole range of instruments !! haha.
@@nathanmort1816 😄👍
Can you tell me what the guitar you are playing is ?? I really like it and would like to get one myself but can't read the headstock logo.
D'angelico deluxe brighton 😎
@@Mikkokosmos Thank you. It's a lovely guitar. I think I'll invest in one if they're under $4000.00.
@@skinnykarlos710 it's way cheaper than that
@@Mikkokosmos Excellent. I just saw a beautiful guitar and thought it'd have to be $3 - 4000. I'm happier now. Thanks again for your reply.
@@skinnykarlos710 I think you have to pay that kind of money for a US made D'angelico but not this model
The concept seems to be much the same as Chuck Wayne and Ralph Patt’s Guitar Arpeggio Dictionary. It is possible that Tim’s teachers knew the Arpeggio Dictionary, and Tim picked up the concept through their teaching.
Interesting. That book also has a 2 1 2 note combination (or 1 2 1) but it only covers what I call generic arpeggios? Maj7 min7 Dom7 etc. Tim Millers approach is to use the finger combination to come up with non generic arpeggios.
@@Mikkokosmos That’s true. The Arpeggio Dictionary use generic arpeggios. The similarity is in the picking pattern. The 2-1-2 ... picking pattern simplifies the right hand.
@@DovidM I'm looking at that book on Scribd. I actually like it I might use it with my students
Hi Mikko. J'ai été abonné à la chaîne de Tim Miller pendant quelques mois. Absolument extraordinaire mais beaucoup de travail et donc beaucoup de temps à passer. Comment fais-tu pour assimiler tous ces livres de guitare (Tim Miller, Mick Goodrick, Allen Hinds etc etc..). Tu ne dors pas ? ☺️☺️
how much did you spend on ink and paper?
printed at work. maybe ten bucks?
@@Mikkokosmos nice. Watching your videos as we speak, wish Tim sold the physical copy on his site.
What's this I hear about being Swedish?
Internet rumors and whisperings 😁
Just kiddin' - Thanks for all the lessons
Some danes are upset that Sweden won the last war 🙄🇸🇪
@@Mikkokosmos I love Scandinavia
You guys are the best!
Spent much time there roaming in my youth
Its a good life - can study jazz in peace!
That’s crazy… 500 arpeggios?!?!? O’rlly?!? I only know 499 songs!!!
Rhythm in melody where is it?
This is not a lesson on rhythm, it's a lesson on Tim Millers arpeggio system. I have many lessons on rhythm that you can check out. For example one video called "cross rhythm" and another called "rhythmic displacment" I hope that helps if you are confused.
Never mind. I listened a bit longer.
Pause on the last note...
What are you talkibg about? 😄
@@Mikkokosmoslisten. When You hit the highest note ascending in the arpeggio, You still pause before to return back. One suggetion, arpeggios, especially minor, just play ascending. Let me know if You did not understand. It is just a "mechanical", technical problem
@@punkestmofo there is no pause I play conistant eight notes . You mean a "pause" in the picking motion?
@@Mikkokosmos correct, the pause is caused by the picking motion but especially by the need of working on the mechanics linked to inverting the playing motion once You reach the highest note. This could be easily corrected simply playing cascading 5th intervals just ascending and moving for ex a third each time You change position.
@@punkestmofo ehhh ok thank you for the lesson 😄
You're a candle in the darkness, want to be youtube friends?
Speak english
"English" has a capital E 😉👍