Hey, Ys translator here. Thanks for your kind words about Mask of the Sun's translation. Of all the non-professional work I've done, I'm probably proudest of it... though I realize it's making a silk purse out of the proverbial sow's ear. The fact is, I was only able to make Mask's script decent because of a quirk in how the game's text-insertion setup enabled me to reorganize the script as I worked. As you might be aware, most game scripts are not set up in anything remotely akin to chronological order, so context errors are a major issue. It was all in one big text file, and I was able to move strings around all I wanted, since each was tagged with a memory address that the inserter would use to put it back where it belonged. So by playing the game in its rough form and then putting all the text in order, I was able to make everything flow. MotS is arguably the worst game in the series (though I personally think III for SNES is the low point), but it was canon, and being the Ys-obsessed geek I am, I wanted it to have the best script I could give it. I didn't have that option with The Dawn of Ys. Or at least, I wasn't working strictly off of my own translations. I mostly did cleanup work on that one, translating about 40% of it and retouching the other stuff that had been done before I took on the project. The fandub was also done using the script I provided and put up on GameFAQs... though that was never meant to be used for that purpose, as it's overly literal and not at all my best work. Given the chance, I'd have gone back and retouched it to make it all sound more natural.
Amazingly in-depth and surprising response to this. I just finished Mask of the Sun myself and thought it was one of the best localisations I've ever read; any liberties you took with the script were largely for the better, and you gave it a sense of polish that it seemingly lacked originally. Thanks for doing the Goddess' work!
When Ys IV for PC Engine was fully translated with the English dub patch, I started to play the game and it was the best game so far that I've played for that game system 😊
I contributed a few voices to the fan dub. It was fun, although I was probably a bit too hammy with my characters in retrospect. Now you've got me curious about Memories of Celceta... I'd like to see how its dub compares to the one BurntLasagna and all of us did all those years ago. Who knows if any of the characters I voiced are even in it, though...
They likely are, Celceta didn't really do anything new, and most major characters are still there. If they're still acting like the same people at all is a different question altogether though. I wasn't too fond on that game's take on the story.
Playing Mask of the Sun right after Ys 3 nearly broke me, but having first entered the series with Ys 6 and Oath years prior, replaying those was my light at the end of the tunnel. My simultaneous relief and burnout were so great that I just dropped my full series run for a year halfway through playing 6. I went back to finish the series when Ys 8 was announced. Also, god, I remember that guide. "Sugoi Nihon-go" got me bad. Edit: Well damn, I gotta play Dawn of Ys now. I had heard it was good, but I never imagined it was the best of the classics.
The Dawn of Ys is my second favorite game in the series, and I know it was never canon, but aside from the modern mainline titles, I see the PC Engine trilogy of Book 1 & 2 and Dawn as its seperate canon. I love those games so much.
Ys on Turbo CD is the best. Especially the music. I don't understand how they make the music so great, because I typically don't pay that much attention to game music. I like those games enough to want to try other ports of them, but I'm not sure I see the point without that CD music.
Are you fucking kidding me? Quintet spawned from FALCOM? WHAT??? How did I not know this? That's insane! Falcom are truly incredible action JRPG pioneers.
Thanks for the reviews. Criminally underrated channel! Really surprised me to see voice acting in an older game like that. Looking forward to seeing how you think memories of celceta stacks up to these two. I'll be replaying when it hits PC aswell.
Great reviews! I really enjoyed going through Dawn of Ys some years back, felt like a proper followup to I&II. After watching this I'm glad I didn't end up trying Mask of the Sun.
oh god i used that same guide for mask of the sun years back. I liked both games for what they were but dawn of ys is just so much better in every way. I was stunned when I learned mask of the sun was considered canon.
Thank you for making all these Ys videos man, I just recently got into the series, and instantly fell in love with it, but these videos have really deepened my understanding and appreciation for these games.
very good to know. Thanks! Played Ys I, II, and origins long back, but just recently completed ys III, celceta, VI, Seven, VIII, and V (finished V today). I'm ready to play Dawn of Ys NOW! The ost is so good!
Yeah, the PC Engine CD Rom Rom was the go-to console for early Ys games. Still I appreciate that Ys 3 was brought to the west with 3 different consoles. Kinda a bummer that Dawn of Ys was Japan only (it definitely is the better game). Also glad that remakes cover almost the entire Ys saga (Ys 5 is still stuck in Japan). Excellent video, and well Tonkin House was definitely not a great developer.
If you ever get the chance, be sure to check out the MSX version of Y's 1&2 and especially their soundtracks. Y's 1&2 Chronicles used a lot of the MSX tracks mixed with newer instruments, however, the original MSX soundtrack is still really amazing to listen to given the hardware at the time.
Jesus those bossfights. If you are going to make an instantaneous kill move for a boss fight, at the very least it should be telegraphed. That minotaur boss looked like it was a matter of dice roll if you die or not. Also, Dawn of Ys looks and sounds suberp, considering to play it in future.
I didn't think anyone would play Mask of the Sun till the end! Awesome video! Nice to see you coverage on one of the best series ever! I pre-ordered the CE for Memories of Celceta when it came out for PS Vita! One of my favorite games ever (even made video review in Spanish to convince more peers)! I know you'll love it!
I know I did. I enjoyed Mask of the Sun despite having played The Dawn of Ys prior to it. The Dawn of Ys is undeniably better, but I still like Mask of the Sun.
This is one of the most interesting series in terms of how many different versions there are of the same games and how dissimilar they are to each other. Dawn of Ys looks fun enough that I'd consider it someday. Solid review as always
It always crack me up when you're doing the Brodyquest joke. This is great stuff! I just found by accident after having finished YS 1 & 2 on the PC Engine Mini with my 5 year old son. Consider me a new fan of yours! =)
wish dawn of ys was canon cuz i ship adol and lilia to death. the ending could have been a snippet of the distant future so that adol could still go on more adventures before finally settling with lilia. o well
18:20 making my way through the series for the first time & not yet gotten to this one. definitely bugged me that adol is this world renowned warrior yet starts every game with no gear at level 1. surprised to actually see it addressed here in the game
So are you have plans on reviewing Taito remakes for ps2? It looks like nobody made a review on etheir Ys 3, 4 or 5 remakes. Probably cause nobody translate these games on English, but still. It would be cool to see review from you.
Interesting video. Can't wait to see your thoughts on Ys V. I liked it more than Mask of the Sun, but only barely. I'm also waiting for Celceta's PC port to play it for the first time, so it's good to see someone else who's waiting for it, instead of just griping that they already played it on Vita.
Very informative and analytical. A very good video. I just think Ys IV is just Ys I & II again. Disappointing coming from Ys III, the best so far because it doesn't go overdoing what it can't do.
great review man... will be waiting for the "falcom canon" Ys IV... and kinda sad too when you see the Xseed site for Ys IV release that there Question mark before Ys 7.. if Xseed take the Ys8, the timeline of recton Ys will be complete for a while until falcom decide to remake Ys V or next Ys.. and currently now im played tokyo xanadu ex+.. that game is truly a "fun project" for falcom.. so many inside refrence in that game.. and please for the next review give the timeline for Ys series because after Ys V the timeline placement is out of order..
Really good video. Has me itching to try out Dawn of Ys. Speaking of, which emulator was used to play it? Because I can't get it to run on TurboEngine and I'm not sure why. Googling help has only done so much, and I find a lot of things I don't know how to interpret. Computer and file stuff.
Mednafen. Here's a direct download to a zip that has a full install with a good GUI, Mednaffe. It's a bit outdated, and if you want to update it, you just need to copy over the newer files of the current version into the folder. But I was still running this version when I made this video, so it shouldn't be an issue. www.fantasyanime.com/emulators#multi
Nice reviews! One day I randomly picked up Mask of the Sun and got stuck in the tree area because of the obnoxious poison. I dropped it then. Thanks for explaining how that version of the game SUCKS so I never have to touch it again in my life! Thank god Memories of Celceta was really great so I could have still experienced the general story of IV without any suffering. Maybe I'll try out Dawn of Ys Fan Dub if I could ever get it working.
Good luck with Celceta. It was one of the first games I got on my Vita, and coming off of Oath in Felghana and Origins I was really disappointed with it - it's okay, but it's nothing amazing. I did only play the first 5 hours though, and I hear the first half (I think the first 10 hours or so?) isn't as good as the latter half from a friend who has played every Ys game.
This is great stuff! Silly question, but what is the name of the little drum and bass tune you use during the bump combat animation and credit sequence?
Was curious if anyone was making interesting content about Ys origin and i find this whole all you can eat buffet, can't stop eating Anyways quick comment to say that i think you can emulate the vita sooo yeah there's that I've got a vita myself so it's not like i'm missing something but seeing it gets more people into the series well it would be dumb to not at least recommend to give a try
Speaking of - are you gonna do Memories of Celceta? I'm playing through it right now - it feels quite good in my opinion and the music is actually on of the best in the entire series (and seeing as ys games always had good music it's saying a lot). Probably gonna finish it today - I need a few % more for 100% map completion. It's funny how playing it feels like they were really taking a lot from Ys 8. Which I'm fine with since I really liked that one. Feels like special attacks look better - I mean still shitty but at least better.
Mask of the Sun sounds like utter ass. Tonkin house had NO idea how to utilize the Snes's sound capabilities. It was always going to be outclassed by the red book audio of the TG16, but holy hell it feels like they didn't even try. Dawn of Ys on the other hand is my favorite game in the series, and i'm so exited for Memories of Celceta, I can't stand it.
I still have to say that after playing all 3 versions of the celceta games (not counting new theory) I still think dawn of ys should have been Canon. I don't mind mask of the sun. It was fun but dawn of ys was a better game. I don't really like Memories of Celceta. There's a really obvious missing link that was not in Memories of Celceta but was there in the other 2 games. And that is it's link to Ys. That was an important plot point and they skipped over it. Also Lillia is not in the game yet was in the other 2. I was so upset.
Man,the Mask of Sun is a terrible version with a lot of problems.I played the game and i dont wnat to replay this game.My God.i will stay with my Celceta...
Why does everyone completely ignore Mask of the Sun - A New Theory for PS2? While it's still not great, I think it's better than the SNES Mask of the Sun, at the very least. The lack of saving in dungeons is really terrible, but the bosses are pushovers, so it balances out kinda. The progression / sequence of events is definitely less stupid and contrived than in Mask of the Sun, and the world design makes more sense in my opinion. The overworld layout is a lot less nonsensical than in Mask of the Sun. And that stupid quest to get the three gems so that the old man will let you talk to the sage is not there any more, thank god. And some other plot events have been changed to make more sense too - when Adol is thrown into prison at the start of the story, instead of escaping by finding a "secret door button" (lazy lazy storytelling), in A New Theory, Adol earns his freedom by fighting a boss monster that appears in the prison. It's definitely better when it comes to these kinds of moment-to-moment story elements at the very least. Though there's now a ton of backtracking, and the warp magic is only available _after_ most of the backtracking parts, so it's kinda useless lol. The magic system as a whole is pretty much completely useless since the swords take so dang long to charge, except for the final healing spell which is so overpowered it makes the final few bosses a breeze. :D And sword combat in general is kinda bad - you get three different sword buttons: light medium, heavy - but really... spamming the medium sword button is almost always the best way to deal with anything. :/ Yeah. The PS2 Mask of the Sun - A New Theory has a ton of its own problems, but I don't think that means that it isn't worth showcasing in an Ys IV video. I hardly hear anyone talk about it. Maybe it's because it has not received a fan translation yet? I have to admit, most of the story went over my head as I was playing in Japanese. But it's still an interesting comparison point to bring up when talking about Ys IV as a whole, don't you think?
Hey, Ys translator here. Thanks for your kind words about Mask of the Sun's translation. Of all the non-professional work I've done, I'm probably proudest of it... though I realize it's making a silk purse out of the proverbial sow's ear. The fact is, I was only able to make Mask's script decent because of a quirk in how the game's text-insertion setup enabled me to reorganize the script as I worked.
As you might be aware, most game scripts are not set up in anything remotely akin to chronological order, so context errors are a major issue. It was all in one big text file, and I was able to move strings around all I wanted, since each was tagged with a memory address that the inserter would use to put it back where it belonged. So by playing the game in its rough form and then putting all the text in order, I was able to make everything flow. MotS is arguably the worst game in the series (though I personally think III for SNES is the low point), but it was canon, and being the Ys-obsessed geek I am, I wanted it to have the best script I could give it.
I didn't have that option with The Dawn of Ys. Or at least, I wasn't working strictly off of my own translations. I mostly did cleanup work on that one, translating about 40% of it and retouching the other stuff that had been done before I took on the project. The fandub was also done using the script I provided and put up on GameFAQs... though that was never meant to be used for that purpose, as it's overly literal and not at all my best work. Given the chance, I'd have gone back and retouched it to make it all sound more natural.
I think this is worth a pin, thank you for the insights on your work on Mask of the Sun and Dawn of Ys. You've done great work.
Thank you! Feel free to hit me up if you want more behind-the-scenes info. I was even involved a very small amount in NISA's re-translation of Ys 8.
Thanks for translating I never would have been able to play it and it was an amazing experience
Amazingly in-depth and surprising response to this. I just finished Mask of the Sun myself and thought it was one of the best localisations I've ever read; any liberties you took with the script were largely for the better, and you gave it a sense of polish that it seemingly lacked originally. Thanks for doing the Goddess' work!
I just finished mask of the sun a few months ago and really enjoyed it!
5:15 I laughed so much at this
It looks like they're playing football with Adol as the ball
Bless you for your bump combat animations
When Ys IV for PC Engine was fully translated with the English dub patch, I started to play the game and it was the best game so far that I've played for that game system 😊
I contributed a few voices to the fan dub. It was fun, although I was probably a bit too hammy with my characters in retrospect. Now you've got me curious about Memories of Celceta... I'd like to see how its dub compares to the one BurntLasagna and all of us did all those years ago. Who knows if any of the characters I voiced are even in it, though...
They likely are, Celceta didn't really do anything new, and most major characters are still there. If they're still acting like the same people at all is a different question altogether though. I wasn't too fond on that game's take on the story.
Playing Mask of the Sun right after Ys 3 nearly broke me, but having first entered the series with Ys 6 and Oath years prior, replaying those was my light at the end of the tunnel. My simultaneous relief and burnout were so great that I just dropped my full series run for a year halfway through playing 6. I went back to finish the series when Ys 8 was announced.
Also, god, I remember that guide. "Sugoi Nihon-go" got me bad.
Edit: Well damn, I gotta play Dawn of Ys now. I had heard it was good, but I never imagined it was the best of the classics.
The Dawn of Ys is my second favorite game in the series, and I know it was never canon, but aside from the modern mainline titles, I see the PC Engine trilogy of Book 1 & 2 and Dawn as its seperate canon. I love those games so much.
Ys on Turbo CD is the best. Especially the music. I don't understand how they make the music so great, because I typically don't pay that much attention to game music. I like those games enough to want to try other ports of them, but I'm not sure I see the point without that CD music.
Dawn of ys is also my favorite. I also love how it extends ys 1-2
Agree. For me the boss fights were biggest surprise - jump in quality there compared to Ys I & II is just insane.
@@SquerolBoss but it’s not canon😭
25:54 - Now this meme takes me back, I think it's from the mid 2010s? What is the song name again?
Thanks for reminding me of the great 90s jam which is the bulk and skull theme. Liked and subscribed.
Are you fucking kidding me? Quintet spawned from FALCOM? WHAT??? How did I not know this? That's insane! Falcom are truly incredible action JRPG pioneers.
Explains alot in hindsight, does it?
It’s hard not seeing the Ys series given the love it deserves let alone the Dawn the Ys thanks for giving it justice as a small channel +1 sub
My fave Ys game to this day! And mostly because the gorgeous and inspiring character design!!! My fave in the series too!!
Thanks for the reviews. Criminally underrated channel!
Really surprised me to see voice acting in an older game like that. Looking forward to seeing how you think memories of celceta stacks up to these two. I'll be replaying when it hits PC aswell.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great reviews! I really enjoyed going through Dawn of Ys some years back, felt like a proper followup to I&II. After watching this I'm glad I didn't end up trying Mask of the Sun.
I just began Ys 1 on the pc engine mini and this was very helpful as to how I should move forward! Thank you!
oh god i used that same guide for mask of the sun years back. I liked both games for what they were but dawn of ys is just so much better in every way. I was stunned when I learned mask of the sun was considered canon.
Thank you for making all these Ys videos man, I just recently got into the series, and instantly fell in love with it, but these videos have really deepened my understanding and appreciation for these games.
The intro for Dawn of Ys lives rent free in my mind ever since I played this game last year.
very good to know. Thanks!
Played Ys I, II, and origins long back, but just recently completed ys III, celceta, VI, Seven, VIII, and V (finished V today).
I'm ready to play Dawn of Ys NOW!
The ost is so good!
Yeah, the PC Engine CD Rom Rom was the go-to console for early Ys games. Still I appreciate that Ys 3 was brought to the west with 3 different consoles. Kinda a bummer that Dawn of Ys was Japan only (it definitely is the better game). Also glad that remakes cover almost the entire Ys saga (Ys 5 is still stuck in Japan). Excellent video, and well Tonkin House was definitely not a great developer.
That post-credits montage is golden
If you ever get the chance, be sure to check out the MSX version of Y's 1&2 and especially their soundtracks. Y's 1&2 Chronicles used a lot of the MSX tracks mixed with newer instruments, however, the original MSX soundtrack is still really amazing to listen to given the hardware at the time.
Jesus those bossfights. If you are going to make an instantaneous kill move for a boss fight, at the very least it should be telegraphed. That minotaur boss looked like it was a matter of dice roll if you die or not.
Also, Dawn of Ys looks and sounds suberp, considering to play it in future.
It's very much still worth playing it. Was surprised at how much it holds up to this day.
I really want to see your Memories of Celceta review!
thx now i know which 16 bit YS4 to do:)
I didn't think anyone would play Mask of the Sun till the end!
Awesome video! Nice to see you coverage on one of the best series ever!
I pre-ordered the CE for Memories of Celceta when it came out for PS Vita! One of my favorite games ever (even made video review in Spanish to convince more peers)!
I know you'll love it!
I didn't even think I'd play Mask of the Sun till the end!
I know I did. I enjoyed Mask of the Sun despite having played The Dawn of Ys prior to it. The Dawn of Ys is undeniably better, but I still like Mask of the Sun.
the mechanic where a girl died and was later revived was reused in the chronicles version of Ys2 and worked out fine there
Great video! Subscribed!
This is one of the most interesting series in terms of how many different versions there are of the same games and how dissimilar they are to each other. Dawn of Ys looks fun enough that I'd consider it someday. Solid review as always
And it plays even more fun than it looks - especially bosses which where huuuuuge quality jump compared to Ys I&II.
Damn that pixel art for the character portraits in Dawn of Ys is on point.
It always crack me up when you're doing the Brodyquest joke.
This is great stuff! I just found by accident after having finished YS 1 & 2 on the PC Engine Mini with my 5 year old son.
Consider me a new fan of yours! =)
wish dawn of ys was canon cuz i ship adol and lilia to death. the ending could have been a snippet of the distant future so that adol could still go on more adventures before finally settling with lilia. o well
Thank you for uploading Ys videos. 😄
Great review
18:20 making my way through the series for the first time & not yet gotten to this one. definitely bugged me that adol is this world renowned warrior yet starts every game with no gear at level 1. surprised to actually see it addressed here in the game
I only played one Y and I have no idea which it was......but boy those boss fights are a nice example on how not to do boss fights
So are you have plans on reviewing Taito remakes for ps2? It looks like nobody made a review on etheir Ys 3, 4 or 5 remakes. Probably cause nobody translate these games on English, but still. It would be cool to see review from you.
Interesting video. Can't wait to see your thoughts on Ys V. I liked it more than Mask of the Sun, but only barely.
I'm also waiting for Celceta's PC port to play it for the first time, so it's good to see someone else who's waiting for it, instead of just griping that they already played it on Vita.
Very informative and analytical. A very good video. I just think Ys IV is just Ys I & II again. Disappointing coming from Ys III, the best so far because it doesn't go overdoing what it can't do.
Question: did you play dawn of ys with keyboard or controller?? Any difference gameplay wise
great review man...
will be waiting for the "falcom canon" Ys IV...
and kinda sad too when you see the Xseed site for Ys IV release that there Question mark before Ys 7..
if Xseed take the Ys8, the timeline of recton Ys will be complete for a while until falcom decide to remake Ys V or next Ys..
and currently now im played tokyo xanadu ex+..
that game is truly a "fun project" for falcom..
so many inside refrence in that game..
and please for the next review give the timeline for Ys series because after Ys V the timeline placement is out of order..
Im playing the snes version and loving it.
Really good video. Has me itching to try out Dawn of Ys.
Speaking of, which emulator was used to play it? Because I can't get it to run on TurboEngine and I'm not sure why. Googling help has only done so much, and I find a lot of things I don't know how to interpret. Computer and file stuff.
Mednafen. Here's a direct download to a zip that has a full install with a good GUI, Mednaffe. It's a bit outdated, and if you want to update it, you just need to copy over the newer files of the current version into the folder. But I was still running this version when I made this video, so it shouldn't be an issue. www.fantasyanime.com/emulators#multi
@@Aboveup Thank you very much.
Nice reviews! One day I randomly picked up Mask of the Sun and got stuck in the tree area because of the obnoxious poison. I dropped it then. Thanks for explaining how that version of the game SUCKS so I never have to touch it again in my life!
Thank god Memories of Celceta was really great so I could have still experienced the general story of IV without any suffering. Maybe I'll try out Dawn of Ys Fan Dub if I could ever get it working.
I'm considering learning Japanese because of Ys. Nice review
Hey! I'm still waiting for Celceta review.
Do you know that fandub patch for Dawn of Ya was out since 2014?
The reason i love dawn of ys is precisely because of that last scene with Lilia telling stories of adols adventures to the children
WHere is your memories of Celceta reveiw?
Good luck with Celceta. It was one of the first games I got on my Vita, and coming off of Oath in Felghana and Origins I was really disappointed with it - it's okay, but it's nothing amazing.
I did only play the first 5 hours though, and I hear the first half (I think the first 10 hours or so?) isn't as good as the latter half from a friend who has played every Ys game.
Speedy it's obvious falcom rushed celceta as an anniversary game,but i'm glad falcom did much much better with ys 8.
I haven't played Ys 8 but it does looks loads better than Celceta.
8's a very great game. It's a shame all the NISA stuff kept happening to it because it really doesn't deserve all that.
I feel you'll like Memories of Celceta gameplay wise because 8 basically takes Celceta combat and fine tunes it.
@@TrueWarriorJak I disagree. Jumping and 3D camera change too much, so they feel very different.
This is great stuff! Silly question, but what is the name of the little drum and bass tune you use during the bump combat animation and credit sequence?
You mean Brody quest?
@@Aboveup I knew I'd heard that damn thing before! Thank you!
An interesting thing I noticed on the Japanese PSN, is that they offered the PC engine versions of Ys 1-4. But I didn't see the psp versions oddly.
lol cmon! the beating is incredible man!!
Those three evil people that are beating the living crap out of Adol are use him like a freaking soccer ball punching him kicking him.😂😂😂😂
Bulk and Skull music
Was curious if anyone was making interesting content about Ys origin and i find this whole all you can eat buffet, can't stop eating
Anyways quick comment to say that i think you can emulate the vita sooo yeah there's that
I've got a vita myself so it's not like i'm missing something but seeing it gets more people into the series well it would be dumb to not at least recommend to give a try
Speaking of - are you gonna do Memories of Celceta? I'm playing through it right now - it feels quite good in my opinion and the music is actually on of the best in the entire series (and seeing as ys games always had good music it's saying a lot). Probably gonna finish it today - I need a few % more for 100% map completion. It's funny how playing it feels like they were really taking a lot from Ys 8. Which I'm fine with since I really liked that one. Feels like special attacks look better - I mean still shitty but at least better.
Celceta came out 4 years before Ys 8.
Mask of the Sun sounds like utter ass. Tonkin house had NO idea how to utilize the Snes's sound capabilities. It was always going to be outclassed by the red book audio of the TG16, but holy hell it feels like they didn't even try. Dawn of Ys on the other hand is my favorite game in the series, and i'm so exited for Memories of Celceta, I can't stand it.
Loved the review :D Hated the way you said Adol :(
My boi Rance 26:26
still waiting celeceta review
I still have to say that after playing all 3 versions of the celceta games (not counting new theory) I still think dawn of ys should have been Canon. I don't mind mask of the sun. It was fun but dawn of ys was a better game. I don't really like Memories of Celceta. There's a really obvious missing link that was not in Memories of Celceta but was there in the other 2 games. And that is it's link to Ys. That was an important plot point and they skipped over it. Also Lillia is not in the game yet was in the other 2. I was so upset.
shouldn't this be a triple review.
Not when everything was done before Celceta was announced for PC.
Man,the Mask of Sun is a terrible version with a lot of problems.I played the game and i dont wnat to replay this game.My God.i will stay with my Celceta...
22:32 Dogi is a male, not a they/them freak.
Why does everyone completely ignore Mask of the Sun - A New Theory for PS2? While it's still not great, I think it's better than the SNES Mask of the Sun, at the very least.
The lack of saving in dungeons is really terrible, but the bosses are pushovers, so it balances out kinda.
The progression / sequence of events is definitely less stupid and contrived than in Mask of the Sun, and the world design makes more sense in my opinion. The overworld layout is a lot less nonsensical than in Mask of the Sun. And that stupid quest to get the three gems so that the old man will let you talk to the sage is not there any more, thank god.
And some other plot events have been changed to make more sense too - when Adol is thrown into prison at the start of the story, instead of escaping by finding a "secret door button" (lazy lazy storytelling), in A New Theory, Adol earns his freedom by fighting a boss monster that appears in the prison. It's definitely better when it comes to these kinds of moment-to-moment story elements at the very least.
Though there's now a ton of backtracking, and the warp magic is only available _after_ most of the backtracking parts, so it's kinda useless lol. The magic system as a whole is pretty much completely useless since the swords take so dang long to charge, except for the final healing spell which is so overpowered it makes the final few bosses a breeze. :D And sword combat in general is kinda bad - you get three different sword buttons: light medium, heavy - but really... spamming the medium sword button is almost always the best way to deal with anything. :/
Yeah. The PS2 Mask of the Sun - A New Theory has a ton of its own problems, but I don't think that means that it isn't worth showcasing in an Ys IV video. I hardly hear anyone talk about it. Maybe it's because it has not received a fan translation yet? I have to admit, most of the story went over my head as I was playing in Japanese. But it's still an interesting comparison point to bring up when talking about Ys IV as a whole, don't you think?