North vs South
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- England's got quite a divide between North and South, and then there's the ghastly area known as the midlands!
MATT: / mattgrayyes - TOM: / tomscottgo
References:
"Survey of English Dialects", which is presented on a map here with other similar studies:
sounds.bl.uk/So...
"BBC Journalists Accused of London Bias"
www.theguardian...
Ferrets:
• ferret in your trouser...
Map image in title from wikimedia commons.wikime...
To the rest of a world, a yankee is an American. To the US, a yankee is from the north. In the North, a yankee is from the northeast. In the northeast, a yankee is from Vermont. And in Vermont, a yankee is someone who eats pie for breakfast.
I need to know more about pie for breakfast in Vermont. Why is this a divide between people?
Also worth noting that to a southern US person a yankee is anyone not south of them. Here in my state, we call the people in the state above us yankees, and that state is absolutely a southern state*.
*Defined as states that seceded from the Union in the civil war.
I'm from Western Massachusetts, and we hate Yankees. Were rivals with that Base Ball team... XD
As a new Yorker I can not confirm this. I've only ever heard it used as the name for our baseball team.
Madness
I'm Welsh. When I lived in Yorkshire, I was picked on for being Welsh. Then when I moved back to Wales, I was picked on for being "from Yorkshire". I feel your pain, Matt
I'm from London (England). I've visited Snowdonia on a family holiday I loved it. Wales is a beautiful nation 🏞️
Wow, that bit of blue fuzz does a hell of a job preserving the sound considering how bad the wind looks.
His name is Matt
Rice&beans &rock&roll He means the one on the microphone
@@PoleTooke Yeah, i bet it was a joke...
Юля Possibly
@@PoleTooke whoosh
For a Londoner - the North is where they can't use their oyster card.
Anything the other side of Watford is up north
we have a mango card in Nottinghamshire
but only on trams though.
no trent barton buses started it
***** hes from notts
MAP MEN MAP MEN MAP MAP MAP MEN
MEN
Elder Maxson
Bith
Bluemon Mip
And here is a mip
We are the men, and here is the mip.
Ah.. mahogany mahogany.
I keep forgetting Tom has a linguistics degree. It surprises me every time.
I also keep forgetting Tom has a really nice singing voice.
And he’s straighter than you expect.
@@jonm7989 he's also really good looking!
Watch Technical Difficulties: show 2. Tom apparently has a terrible singing voice.
"We flew a kite in a public place!" -Tom Scott
@@CSManiac33 Not many people can sing "Old Man River" very well, anyways.
In Canada their is a massive north south divide, south: Everyone
North: Your a polar bear
Hamish Ashcroft canadas divide is easy there's Quebec and everywhere else
Hamish Ashcroft America is also like this
South: extremely religious sharpshooters.
North: Canada: the sequel
West: rich assholes and bimbos
East: history buffs who are very keen to let you know that we are no longer your colonies
heh "east - Quebec, Toronto" ... suddenly a maritimer walks into the room only to discover that we don't exist according to the rest of the country.
I DO beg your pardon sir, I'm from the part of the West coast that is made of lumberjacks, fishermen, hippies, and programmers.
so in south america there are extremely religious sharpshooters, like in chile and argentina?
I'm Belgian and we definitely don't have a North/South divide at all. Not at all.
NOT AT ALL!
Are you sure ?
Nicolas Dilly seems convincing to me
Name Namington
Why should you? It‘s a small country...
@@Thomas_Bergel It was sarcasm, Belgium has a very strong divide
I'm Russian and the only divide we have is between everyone living in Moscow and Peter, and everyone *not* living in Moscow/Peter.
I thought the divide was the Urals. I suppose east of that is basically a huge chunk of the world no one else wants, so dividing European Russia is the relevant one.
@@AgentTasmania Culturally, Russia is mostly the same, from Pskov to Krasnodar to Murmansk to Krasnoyarsk. The main cultural divide is between the big cities Moscow/Peter, and everything else.
Really, in the UK it's distance away from London. The southwest and east are counted as south yet, by some measurements, I have heard Cornwall be called the poorest region in EU and Cornwall is the furthest south west you can go
Я тоже из Рашки
i was like wtf for second before i remembered it was a place xD
Pshaw. Scotsmen. Bloody Southerners.
Signed, Northern Norwegian.
How is the North defined in Norway?
@@meowtherainbowx4163 Northern Norway consists of the three counties Nordland, Troms and Finnmark. Or, more simply put: it's pretty much the entire long, narrow part of the country.
Tsk. You southern Norwegian.
Signed, a Greenlandish.
@@MrWolf-xk8sl
Hehe.
Bloody southerners. Signed, a Scottish person with an upside down map.
ACCENTS ARE REALLY HARD TO GET ACROSS IN TEXT. LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BATH AND BATH
+AnUntitledAbridger Use macrons and breves.
Băth/Bāth.
Well, okay. though anyone who doesn't know what those are will have to research it, or guess randomly. .... ..which I am okay with. I mean, if you're gonna live on this planet, sometimes you're gonna have to google some things. That's been true for at least a few years, so we can extrapolate that for forever.
+AnUntitledAbridger bæth and barth?
+AnUntitledAbridger Learn the IPA :)
even laymen can wrap our heads around "A as in cat vs A as in art"
In Germany, we have a North/South AND East/West divide (for obvious reasons).
They're ALL strange people, though.
+GeFlixes Norway also has both a North/South and an East/West divide, but the North is so narrow that the East/West divide only makes sense in a South context.
+Nillie this sentence *_*
+GeFlixes How has the east-west divide been healing. I remember watching the berliners tearing down the wall on TV. I sort of know from my interest in geography and military history that west germany was an industrial powerhouse of europe, but east germany was a post communist concrete wasteland. have things improved?
+Chris Steward many of the 'new federal states' have bled out in terms of employment and industry. They are coming back up, though. Social services, salaries and so are getting to West standards, the infrastructure is better than the West due to huge monetary care packages.
The reputation of the 'Ossis' (slang for people from eastern Germany) has been plummeting with the rise of massive right wing protests against the European refugee crisis as well as attacks on foreigners and the busting of the NSU terrorist cell in recent times.
I mean it's funny; many of the 2nd or 3th generation immigrant families lived longer in the BND than the Ossis (therefore, the ossis are the foreigners 😆) , and due to the iron curtain, they should remember the whole refugee situation and closed borders and all. Still, right wing politicians from the east (who are immensely popular right now) propose to open fire on refugees at the borders. 😂😂😂 wasn't really well received on the west side.
Not all is well on the eastern front (especially with Poland mutating into a new Reich).
What are the obvious reasons for an east west divide?
Brits: "I shouldn't insult my hometown"
Americans: "My hometown is a cesspool of vomit and sadness"
@Armathynx That sounds like Americans
@@ss555ib Or just people in general
It's more like you shouldn't unless you want shanked. Word gets around much easier since the whole country is so much more dense.
@Armathynx do you mean Russian people?
Americans typically are encouraged to move out for their home town same soon as they can probably creates explains the disparity
Southerners laugh at the northern accents such as the Geordie Newcastle accent, Yorkshire accent and the "Mad fer it" sounds of Manchester
Northerners laugh at the Cockney London and Posh Southern England accents and maybe the farmers/pirate twang of a Bristol accent
And then there is the Birmingham Brummie accent in which everyone laughs at you
My dad is from Birmingham and he said that they still got to make fun of the black country
How can southerners laugh at our accents when they sound like rate posh cunts ahah
Cos you know what they about brummies "Birmingham born, Birmingham bred, strong in the arm, and soft in the yed"...
Jazz Dawson clearly never heard of West Country....
just make sure you dont confuse your brummies with your dingles or your yamyams, they don't seem to like it all that much :P
The "coal to Newcastle" thing is interesting. In German, we take "owls to Athens".
As an American, owls to Athens sounds like some kind of Illuminati mystery school passphrase.
In The Netherlands we "carry water to the sea"
The only version I've heard in the US is "selling ice to an eskimo" (don't use the word eskimo outside of quotes though it has bad connotations)
In Denmark we take “sand to Sahara”
In the US we say beat a dead horse
7:00
Interesting. I've wondered if it was just me being an ignorant American that made me think that all British media was about London, but it seems as though that's what's actually the case.
As someone from the mythical land of "The Midlands", everyone does indeed hate me. I can't even say I'm from the East or West Midlands because my town is literally on the border.
is the town rugby? XD
I'm roughly in the middle of the midlands so what do i say lmao
As an East Midlander I both support the East against the West, support my city against rival cities in the East, and support the Brummies in their case to be England's second city because they're better than Manchester despite the fact they're bloody westerners. The Midlands is complicated, basically.
@@christopheroddy2373 Could be worse. I'm from the Midlands but so far West I'm almost in Wales 😨
@@garethreece Ooyah. TBH I don't think the Welsh want to be involved in English regional rivalries, so I think you're safe.
Question for maybe the next episode:
I live in the Netherlands, everything is close by. if something is a 20 minute trip it is considered "far". After some traveling I found out that in some countries (Like America) people can take an hour drive to the supermarket and think it is no big deal. Did your perception of "something being far" change after all the traveling you guys did?
+Ruud Hollenberg I can attest to this, although even within America there's a few states with that same mentality of a 20 minute trip being "far". Mostly the smaller states, which are fewer, but up in the North-Eastern part where a lot of the population is.
+Ruud Hollenberg I live in northern Italy, in a densely populated area (it's one of the brigthest places in Europe at night if you watch from space) but I live in a small town and to do almost everything I have to drive 15-20 minutes
+Ruud Hollenberg Yeah but in america you have to remember the population density is far less for the vast majority of areas. It seems europeans have a rough time grasping that. It explains quite a bit including larger autos and the lack of financially viable public transport.
+Ruud Hollenberg American demographics are very different than European demographics, mainly because the interstate highway system developed in the fifties. Because of easy access to cities and the relatively cheaper land rates lead to suburban sprawl; residential areas spread out while industry stayed in place in the urban centers. Such disperse population centers make public transport incredible impractical, since it is designed upon the use of individual transport. There is also still a good amount of rural living. What used to be family farms and rural villages to small for industry of shops can't survive that way in the modern era, so they make the compromise of traveling long distances to work.
+quak quak
it must be a beautiful place though
I overheard a conversation in 2005 between a cornishman and a scotsman, and through that talk realised something: when the corn said "bloody northerners" he meant london. When the scot said "bloody southerners", he meant london.
They did not mean each other, because the other was too far north/south.
In Cornwall everything north of Bristol is considered "the North".
ell, anythin pass Bodmin, thas ee up country ee is.
Mikail Elchanovanich English please
Joel __
right on boy
In Bristol everything north of Bristol is considered the North.
Tbh if you live further north than Truro you are a bloody northerner
Tom's pronunciation of Houston brought me physical pains, but we Texans did appreciate the attention.
As a New Yorker, I didn't think it could get worse than pronouncing Houston St. the same way as Houston, TX. But Tom proved me wrong.
@@iykury generally , though I've met people from the north side of the city of Houston who don't say the H
Must be like when an Aussie hears someone from outside of Australia pronounce Melbourne
Doesn't texas get lots of attention? I'm American
hoo stun
I just have to say that the sound map you linked to has got some of the coolest things I've ever heard. Almost 100 years of recordings! Amazing that the British Library hosts a time capsule like that, and that it's available for anyone (even a Swede like me).
I spent well over an hour going through those recordings when I first found them! --Matt
+secret person it's the "sounds.bl.uk" link in the description (where "bl" stands for "British Library") :)
We have one for swedish accents too!
You say LMAO when some'inks bare funny y'know
Vampire Productions I love that Google wanted to translate that
Anything below the wall is the south.
Antonine, right?
+Peter Lund Hadrian wall. I also believe it all should join Scotland if it were ever to succeed, especially Manchester.
***** -- secede, actually.
*****
*teach me :)
He should have built a bloody toll gate!!!!
I'm from a small town called Holmfirth in West Yorkshire. There are older people (mainly farmers) who live in the surrounding villages and their accents are incredibly thick, so much so I sometimes struggle to understand them. As I understand it, everyone in the area spoke as they did around 60 years ago and they've retained their distinctive accents through relative isolation. Now, due to the steady influx of non-locals that's occurred since the 90's, the accent is somewhat normalised and sounds much the same as the rest of the Huddersfield area. Interesting video!
In belgium the north speaks dutch and the south speaks french. So in belgium the trouble is bigger
and german a bit in the east as well.
Well if you will insist on making new countries every other century!
*Coughs* conspicuously in Scots...
*Swiss people start sweating nervously*
“I shouldn’t insult my home town” You should if it’s Mansfield
What's up with Mansfield? I'm an American, and I'm curious.
@@lennartbrigham2775 think "oh, I'm from Victorville" that should help you figure out what it's like
@@marcusborderlands6177 where?
Canadian here and curious too, could you please explain that for me too haha? :)
@@tinkersdinkers uhh, for my analogy, Victorville is a city in the high desert part of California, basically it's hot, full of meth, and literally nothing is there. Basically Mansfield is that but British. So less desert.
As an Australian, I find regional accents fascinating. Australia, being a very young, migrant country, we don't really have regional accents. There's a bit of a country vs city difference (mostly strength), but I can't go "Oh, you're from Melbourne" or "you're from Brisbane" just from their accent, so it's always really interesting hearing different accents from different regions in the UK (and America).
I, as an Australian myself, am not that surprised. Though British media has a way of sneaking in here.
@Mike Haydon, Are they though? They all sound basically the same
i can hear the difference, people from adelaide sound especially weird
There are some subtle differences, but it can be hard to tell. As a Sandgroper, eastern-states accents stick out to me, but I can't usually pinpoint them by city or region. 'Fear' in WA has a disyllablic dipthong (fee-ah), but in other parts of the country it's more like a long monophthong (feer). The latter is closer to how I'd pronounce 'fair', so it can lead to mild confusion.
I feel like there's a barely noticeable difference between the eastern states and western states
So this explains the line in "Rose" where Rose is shocked that the Doctor has a Northern accent. There's a cultural assumption there as well as just commenting on accents. That's helpful.
Lots of planets have a North.
Wait, there are people in the UK that pronounce 'garage' the same way we do in the US? I had no idea.
just the posh people
TheDiscoNarwhal I'm from Yorkshire and I say /ga•rij\
***** Ah yes, indeed.
Certain people in the south east tend to. i.e. London
NO! We don't pronounce it the way Matt pronounces it in 2:22. He was wrong. We in the South of England pronounce it "GA-rarj"(same "ga" in the Northern pronunciation), not "g-raarj" like Americans.
This is interesting! In Sweden we have a north-south, west-east divide. An all the media is from the capital Stockholm, the rest of the country is mostly ignored.
Lapland is the best in Sweden.
I'm not so sure about that north-south divide: the northern bit is mostly forest, moose and reindeer. ;P
West-east I'll wholeheartedly agree with, who'd argue about the west coast being the best coast? ;P
Also, there's local news, in Gothenburg we have our own local broadcasting house.
And please don't be offended people, I'm just making fun. :)
West Sweden is best Sweden.
but isnt lapland in Finland?
It's in both acctually.
tom has some...frankly brilliantly withering expressions
I've never heard any Englishman pronounce garage the American way. I certainly don't and no one down south does.
I do (from Norwich)
David Forest does
If anyone does they should go to america, start saying "trash" and start taking the S off of maths and start putting it on the end of Lego
We don't pronounce it the American way! Matt was wrong at 2:22. We in the South pronounce it "GAH-rarj", not "g-raarj". I feel I have to go around correcting everyone.
EliteXtasy in PA it's "ger-ahg"
"We've vlogged all over Shenley"
Tom, phrasing! Jesus!
As a Scottish person I can confirm that we think you're all southern.
As a Scouser. We disassociate from the English. We are now east Wales.
T'North
DarceyNE I'm from Manchester, I've never heard anyone say it like that.
It's more obvious in a longer sentence. For example "On Sunday, our Linda and I are going t' shop to get food for Christmas dinner."
iCannoNz More of a NE thing. Yorkshire has t'shops. Manchester has tuther shops
It's actually ' ' north
The 't' is implied, source: a Scottish yorkshireman
Thanks Shenley, Thenly. Holy crap thats an obscure one.
+Adam Dodman Tom Scott why have the Technical Difficulties not done a Look Around You tribute series yet?
I love Look around you
Tom's performance of Old Man River has improved in the past six years, possibly because this one wasn't intended as a torture device...
it is like that in Norway as well, we can almost tell what house a person is from, we have such different way of speaking, troughout the country
+Robert Walpole I knew you'd be involved in this somehow!
+Robert Walpole I FOUND WALPOLE!
+Robert Walpole It was Walpole!
Same in Pakistan!
WALPOLE!!
I was leaving a restaurant one day when one of the patrons said to me, "You're not from Toronto, are you?"
I replied that I was from rural Ontario, about 2 hour drive northeast of the city."I could tell from your accent" she said.Before that I had no idea I had a discernible accent other than that I spoke Ontario English.For an exaggeration of the rural Ontario accent, look up Don Harron or his character Charlie Farquharson
I really enjoyed this summary of the politics of Westeros...
Shenanigames heh
don't you mean top vs bottom?
Only if Matt had been the one to choose the title of the video.
I remember a few years ago when the last London Routemaster bus was taken out of service it was the top story on the national news. As a person not from London I'd never ridden on a Routemaster as they were phased out decades ago for more modern busses that didn't need a separate driver and conductor.
3:12 ireland's the exact same, there are at least 5 or 6 accents in dublin alone, and at least one for each county
I keep looking at that microphone and expecting Matt to take a bite out of it, and prove to me that it's really fairy floss.
I'm Finnish. My mom is from the south where I was born, and my dad is from the north where I live now. And it's absolutely horrible! The meaning of some verbs has changed, etc. I'm exactly like Matt and Tom. Southern enough to get bullied by the northern kids throughout my teens, but northern enough to say I'm from the north when people ask me nowadays.
I'm also finnish and I wouldn't care where you from. If you are a nioce person I might friend you if you are not and I find out then I will avoid you.
@@topilinkala1594 yeah but you're an adult. I moved up north at the age of 14, teens are different.
PIES. FLATCAPS. WHIPPETS.
Chips and gravy
Increasingly RP, gym bodies, and conducting media business in fancy caffs from their Macs, depending which bit of the north you go to. If you do see a flatcap wearing whippet owner, they're probably a TV producer.
broken windows. Grass on bricks. Clay.
Please can we have the Yorkshire dial turned to 11 in all of the videos.
Could you do a video on the stereotypical UK university experience (partly just so we get more anecdotes from your time there)?
In Scotland we know the North as "that place on the train doon south where yon passengers get aw pally". It's really, really lovely passing through the North because everyone on the train starts calling each other "love" and "me duck" and it doesn't feel like a bliddy freezer every time someone coughs.
~Note: My Friend Joe is from the North and he's so lovely that I've pledged to not refer to them as bloody Southerners
Here in Labrador, you can tell where someone is from by how they sound. More Newfoundland in the south, and more Inuit in the north, and more Canada in the west.
Here in the Netherlands we sort of have something of a North-South divide between traditionally Protestant and Catholic parts of the country, but these days the East-West divide is far more prevalent. Basically, everybody who isn't a Hollander hates Hollanders (particularly Frisians and Limburgers), and vice versa.
+Robert Faber I think it's more accurately a Randstad-Everything else divide.
JSQuareD Maybe, but most people would still consider Utrecht part of the Randstad, and while Utrechters don't hate Hollanders to the same extent that the rest of the country does, they'll still probably look at you with a slightly angry look in their eyes if you call them Hollanders, so I wanted to account for that...
+Robert Faber Well, hate is a big word... But when TV puts subtitles under people speaking with a Limburgian accent it does infuse a certain level of rage... On the other side, I just moved to Rijswijk so I guess I will having the same problem as Matt and Tom because I won't really fit anywhere...
Robert Faber Haha, well I live in Utrecht, and I certainly don't hold any kind of grudge against people from Holland. I _do_ get annoyed at people who refer to the entirety of The Netherlands as Holland, but I think that's more about the fact that it is _simply incorrect_, than about not wanting to be associated with Holland ;)
+apainintheaas To be entirely fair, Limburgian is officially a different language.
Grandpa was from Nottingham, Grandma Glasgow. Mum is from Bristol, but moved at 8yo and Dad is a 4th gen Aussie with a Germanic background.
I'm an Aussie, with the mentioned ancestry and a Norwegian speech therapist when I was young.
Have fun.
Alright, I’m from Newcastle upon Tyne, and I’m actually scared people from London think the River Trent is at the border. In Newcastle that’s certainly the south.
Well Tom, you just made Mansfield, UK a very famous town. "Well, did you know that Tom Scott of UA-cam was born here? I knew his postman, you know. Good chap, always delivered on time, not a letter lost. Yes, that Tom Scott"
Thank you very much to the person subtitling the video! You did a great job with phonetic variations for 'garage' and with details I couldn't catch watching the video many times before like 'kaffir lime leaves' It really helps a lot!
Because English isn't my native language and I've learned English mostly from youtube, I've learned English hearing all different accents. So they all sound the normal to me. You have to be talking very weird before I will consider it as an accent. The only accent that I really can distinguish(in English) is "Hollanders" (people from the Netherlands, technically the wrong term, we use it anyway) speaking English. But that's probably because as a Native (Vlaams) (Flanders-) Dutch speaker the Dutch of the Netherlands sounds pretty weird to me. And it's probably the Dutch accent I hear just spoken in English.
+samramdebest It is hard for even native English speakers to pick up on regional accents within a different English speaking country. I'm American and I can only tell a handful of accents in England. But I can tell all kinds of US accents.
You should be able to tell the difference betwen major cities (for example liverpudlian/scouse is very easy to identify and compare to say a birmingham/brummy accent or manurian/mank accent, London is very easy to distinguish as someone from the UK because it just sounds fake because you associate it with TV and fakery in general). Oh, and sorry for only picking northish cities, I picked from what I knew having lived in the north for my whole life. Almost no one outside of a local area can identify the difference between towns or areas of a town (I can for example identify at least four local variations of an accent in my home town, and the accents for near by towns, but honestly thats about 3 towns, much beyond that and I'd be guessing).
Brummie and Scouse actually sound quite similar to a non-native speaker, so probably not the best example you could have used.
My family moved from South Carolina to Wisconsin when I was one, so I grew up learning both Southern and Midwestern dialects. And the result is that my friends say I talk way too slowly but extended family complain that I talk too fast.
From North Yorkshire, and I'll have you know that when I were a lad, we were lucky if we had more than flat caps and whippets to have for our tea*! And we're damn lucky if our peas were mushy, the way God intended them to be!
I loved this video so much, thank you :)
*I'm actually a little bit surprised tea vs. dinner vs. lunch didn't get brought up. Annoyingly, I've got what someone called a "forces" accent. I still say /bæθ/ rather than /bɑ:θ/ for "bath", and "tea" instead of "dinner", but it's not really a strong Yorkshire accent after that, so despite having lived with 10 miles of my current home for the last... ooo... forever(?) I still get people saying "you're not from round here, are you?". Yes. Yes I am :P
Oo, and Northerners are also incredibly loud, but very friendly, while Southerners are offish and rude, apparently. I've known a couple of people to experience a kind of culture shock after moving from one to the other.
"Prince Charles with constipation" is the best thing I've heard all day
What I get from this is, that Matt is from a long lost dynasty of royal northerners.
I feel like the West Country is a separate thing as well. Being from the West Country I feel way more at home in the North than in the South East. The South East is a lot more alien to me.
I am also Midlands, Tom. Near the Trent. Hated by both.
I'm from Nottingham☺
+Harrison Ellis West Midlands xD
+Harrison Ellis TGF like this comment
+Daniel Barbet BASSSBBUUUDDDSSSS
+A Very Good Man I'm from the east Midlands, but live right next to the border with the North. At school there was a mixture of kids from Sheffield and various Derbyshire towns and villages and you could tell immediately where everyone was from, even though the catchment area was barely more than ten miles in diameter.
Hi,
From India, punjab,
My village and next village and for that matter all the villages and cities have different enough accents that we can tell from where one is just the way they speak.
Just the same as in any part of the world I guess.
Thanks
As a Yorkshire lass now living in Mansfield, you two are perfect! Just found your joint channel - note going to go and watch the whole back catalogue!
"Southerners are more RP"
People in Norfolk and Suffolk: 'As blowen' a hoolie ote 'ere.
Okay, story time.
I live in Belgium, which has 3 official languages: French-speakers in the south, Dutch-speakers in the north, and some German-speakers in the east.
(The French-speakers are not taught Dutch in school, but we are taught French. Just one of many reasons north and south don't get along very well..)
The Netherlands has one official language: Dutch. However, it's a completely different kind of Dutch. Pronunciation, expressions, and even individual words mean different things depending on which version you're speaking. For example; our slang for "to fuck" means "to shit" in the Netherlands, which is fine when you're swearing, but otherwise rather awkward.
The Dutch think Flemish (Belgian Dutch) sounds cute. We think Dutch (as spoken in the Netherlands) sounds really annoying.
And then of course there are the cultural differences. British/Flemish comedian put it like this:
Belgian person when offered coffee: (in a timid voice) "oh, uh, yes please, but only if it's not too much trouble.."
Dutch person when offered coffee: (loud, enthusiastic voice) "Yeah, have you got Cappuccino?"
..just a few things :P
I could pick Tom's brain about English dialects for hours. If I ever meet him I'm pretty sure I'll be an obnoxious fan about it.
1:51 Tom predicted the 2020 toilet paper shortage
I'm from Ireland. I live in a town called calverstown, 4km away is killcullen who have a different accent, 5km is athy which is different, 8.5km away is newbridge which is different, Kildare town (this is all in county Kildare) is 13km away and is different, nass is 17km away is different.
if you ask any Irish person, they could pick out someone from west cork, east cork, kerry, clare etc, every county has about 20 different accents
you need to do a 2020 park bench video from home and use green-screens to make it look like you are both with each-other (unless you live together that is)
I was born in the south (Berkshire). Raised in the midlands (Warwickshire). And now residing in the north (Cheshire). Couldn’t be happier!
In Switzerland, we just declare Zurich as being not part of our country. That pretty much solves any such problem here.
Also, we can still tell which village you are from in Switzerland ^^
Cornwall rejects your fish and chip heresy.
Can't trust that northern muck.
Well of course you would, you're all slightly mad down there.
Cornwall needs to stick to it's pasties and clotted cream icecream and we will stick to doing the fish suppers ;-)
+Thomas Stevenson At least he had the good grace to describe Cornwall as being in the South-West of Britain, and not England :)
I went on holiday for 12 years in Cornwall and never felt that I'd ever be accepted if I moved there. It's not really... British. It's like I imagine Jersey to be. The Royal Cornwall Show can be fun but only Newquay and perhaps Truro can feel 'cosmopolitan'. Relatively.
I know it's late in the day, but I've only just watched your video, and I would like to point out that there used to be a coalfield in Kent. The pits were at Snowdown, Betteshanger, Tilmanstone, Chislet, and for brief periods elsewhere between Canterbury and Dover. They are now all closed.
You can still easily tell the difference in accents between Burton on Trent (East Staffordshire) and Swadlincote (South Derbyshire) five miles apart.
if you're coming to the south, do a video on UK seaside towns, and come visit Brighton! lots of benches here.
+AceRidesBikes All of the seaside towns that I’m familiar with are in Northumberland.
SCARBOROUGH IS BEST SEASIDE TOWN
*Northumberland and Yorkshire. I don't know how I managed to forget Scarborough and Whitby.
+Jack Harrison Southport is the worst!
+Jack Harrison Not as nice as places like Whitby, Robin Hoods Bay, Redcar etc IMO
Tom not wearing red? Shocker.
Probably wearing it under that hoodie
Look at his neck it's under the hoodie
It's weird here in the US because it isn't just a north south divide. It's more like a divide between New England, the Midwest, the south, the west coast, the southwest (not California), Florida is doing its own thing, the Great Plains including Texas, and whatever you want to call Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, and New York. Don't even get me started on Alaska and Hawaii.
We even have different ideas of how the nation is divided up. To me, in Texas, Texas is firmly part of "The South" but not "The Deep South" which ends to us at the Louisiana Border. Pennsylvania, Delaware, New Jersey, and New York are all part of "New England. Florida is IN the south, but Floridians stopped being Southerners decades ago. I could go on, but you get the idea. Different perceptions.
+Jarred Leverton Fl is a weird state because its more on what part you live in..on the coast its mostly northerners who moved down, orlando, miami, and the whole south fl has a high latino population. But in rural areas they are southern. so its weird all together.
Jarred Leverton It varies even between Texans. I'd call East Texas part of the deep south, and maybe even Houston. Meanwhile El Paso has more in common with the Southwest
Christopher Hellinger These are just regional divides, the UK has the same with Cumbria, Tyne and Wear, Jorvik, East and West Mercia, Essex, Wessex, Cornwall and London, Sussex, Anglia.
The main divide is North, Midlands, South.
+vianjelos lots of states are like that I imagine. One way to district up Illinois is Downstate (everything but the Chicago area) and Upstate (the Chicago area). Although this is less common (normally people use Northern, Central, and Southern), it probably has the biggest correlation with the different cultures in Illinois. Upstate is a lot like you say the coast is, and downstate is a lot like your rural areas (because that is where all the rural areas are). The US has a huge cultural divide between urban and rural.
Although, don't get me wrong, Central and Southern Illinois are definitely different. Mainly because Central Illinois has 6 small metropolitan areas (4 of which are between 200,000 and 400,000), while Southern Illinois only has metroeast, which is part of the St. Louis metro area.
there is a bit of that in Canada with the East vs West. Well actually it's more B.C. vs The Prairies vs Ontario and the Maritimes vs Quebec, and everyone forgets about the Territories.
I miss this. I would love you guys doing a update about what you have been up to since this.
The talk about centralization towards London reminds me of the current situation here in South Korea. Roughly 50% of the country lives in Seoul and its greater surrounding area. In a country the size of some of the smallest states of the US.
The population density's absurd.
1:26 I heard "whippets" as "whippits" (i.e. nitrous oxide, i.e. laughing gas), and there are flat cap mushrooms, and for a second I thought you had veered into a very different kind of stereotype.
North: southerners hate you.
South: northerners hate you.
The midlands: everyone hates us so much that they say we don't exist 😆
You two, plus intricate British jokes that I half understand, are amazingly good for my sense of well-being and good cheer...
6:04 the Look Around You Thanks Shenley, Thenley joke was amazing! I haven’t seen Look Around You for years, but recognized it instantly!
+Tom Scott , I keep rewatching this and I have to ask, where the hell have you been hiding that singing voice? I did not expect that register to come out of your mouth. I'm also impressed with your knowledge of US musicals.
Tories: "Northern powerhouse"
North: "am i a joke to you?"
Also north: votes Tory
@@jeannebouwman1970 Also North : Not all of us and I see lots of blue in the South and Midlands .
Yup, I'm in Canada. Middle of Canada specifically. North of me is frozen. Well mostly anyway. I mean I'm in Winnipeg, so there is a lot north of me to go (like nearly 4x the distance from Edinburgh to Plymouth), but I've never really noticed an accent difference. Then again, most people north of me (save for indigenous peoples) have not been living there for generations upon generations, so not a lot of language differences would have come about.
Was not expecting a reply to a comment from 4 years ago.
what's this week's distractionator? It's Tom Scott singing old man river!
Do you want to know where the north and south divide? The midlands. I'm partial to "midlander" rather than being called southern by northerners and northern by southerners.
Ey im from Nottinghamshire too
I swear the guy on the right is Alan Partridge.
Canada has a weird divide. You got Atlantic, Newfoundland, Ontario, Greater Toronto Area, Quebec, Central, North, Alberta, BC, and..... Metro Vancouver. Mainly an East, Ontario, Quebec, Central, North, West, Vancouver and Toronto divide.
Which "Bath" pronunciation is northern and which is southern? Which version of "Bath" do you pronounce?
the longer "baaahth" is southern while the shorter "bath" (the same "a" as cat) is northern. same thing for garage/garage.
Yorkshire and Lancashire hate one another but unite as northern when compared to the south. I have to say, growing up in Lancashire, only mainly older people retain a thick accent as the younger generation tend to be more RP. I can also tell the difference in accent from a Prestoner and them from Chorley.
I'm an american who's family is largely from England, and my dad's family's mostly from the south and my mum's family is mostly from the midlands and the north RIP
I'm from Scotland and your all southern to me.
Obviously. Ha.
Where is Wales? Is it in the north or the South? Is it even counted as being in the north or the South?
As a welshman, I would like to know.
I'm not British, but I think English just ignores Wales
@@MrHat. nah we just see it as a separate body. One with its own culture and divides etc., Which we would rather just not comment on as we'll probably get it wrong.
I feel you with the midlands bit. I'm from Grimsby and I'm neither northern or southern. It's made life complicated since I moved to Leeds
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+G1NG3RJ0HN Well, this sounds like an intelligent conversation...