Zenithal Priming - why is it “a thing" ?

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  • Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
  • The interest in Zenithal Priming is high - It's a thing. But it is your thing? And what is it really good for? In this video I present some ways to work with zenithal priming, how it can be beneficial and when it's pointless. Please tell me how you use zenithal priming in the comments.
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    Color list for the thumbnail Castigator:
    -Green cloak
    Vallejo Game Black
    Vallejo Game Heavy Green
    Vallejo Model Deep Green
    Vallejo Model Light Green Blue
    -Tan cloak / gloves / bag
    Vallejo Game Black
    Vallejo Model Buff
    Vallejo Game Off White
    -Blue Armour
    Vallejo Game Black
    Vallejo Game Heavy Blue
    Vallejo Game Steel Grey
    Vallejo Game Off White
    -Skin
    Vallejo Model Flat Earth
    Vallejo Game Heavy Red
    Vallejo Game Cadmium Skin
    Vallejo Game Black
    Vallejo Stone Grey
    Vallejo Game Jade
    Vallejo Model Dark Prussian Blue
    Vallejo Game Royal Purple
    Vallejo Game Off White
    -Red sholder pads / helmet
    Vallejo Game Black
    Formula P3 Sanguine Highlight
    Vallejo Model Old Rose
    -Weapon glow
    Vallejo Game Jade
    Vallejo Model Dark Prussian Blue
    Vallejo Model Light Turquoise
    -Helmet & Weapon
    Vallejo Game Black
    Formula P3 Trollblod Highligt
    Vallejo Game Off White
    Glazes & Rust effects
    Vallejo Game Jade
    Vallejo Model Dark Prussian Blue
    Vallejo Blue Grey Wash
    Vallejo Rust Wash
    Oil Paints (Windsor & Newton)
    Lamp Black
    Viridian Hue
    Prussian Blue
    Burnt Umber
    Geranium Lake
    Pigments
    MIG Black Smoke
    MIG Dry Mud
    Vallejo Red Ochre
    Yeah....

КОМЕНТАРІ • 176

  • @sasha-01
    @sasha-01 3 роки тому +66

    Your humility and way you explain is very refreshing in an individual

  • @socalastarte6727
    @socalastarte6727 3 роки тому +5

    I've been painting for quite a long time. I currently have seven 2000+ point 40K armies and almost done with number eight. (Quite a few more on the back burner.) I consume quite a lot of 40K/ miniature painting content via UA-cam on a daily basis and somehow I only recently became aware of your channel. Your videos are simply put, amazing. You are very good at explaining the intricacies of various techniques and demonstrating their application in a clear, concise and helpful manner. I recently found myself in a bit of a painting burnout rut and your videos have bumped up my motivation. Thank you sir, keep up the great work!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +2

      I’m glad to hear the videos could inspire. Regardless of specific content that is what I hope to do.. so It’s great to hear this :)

  • @SinisterCheshire
    @SinisterCheshire 3 роки тому +9

    you've got some of the best videos out there. So calm, so positive, like a teacher whos talking directly to me and understands exactly the frustration and general intimidation that can come with painting minis.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Well thank you, I really appreciate you letting me know.

  • @bboyvalkyr
    @bboyvalkyr 4 роки тому +34

    Just stumbled over your Channel. Watched the whole Video in a Go and have to say you give me heavy teacher vibes ( in a good way) also the quality is on Point. Very relaxing to listen to. I would say you got a new follower. Keep up the good work 👌

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +7

      You may leave an apple on my desk 😂 But seriously, thanks a lot. I appreciate hearing this. And welcome to the channel. 👋

    • @cyberbum9688
      @cyberbum9688 3 роки тому

      Yes your videos are very calming, and I'm happy you don't resort to goofing off like so many other channels. It's almost like an ASMR miniature painting channel. Also, I find the production values on your video very slick, I don't know if you some expensive setup, but it's very professional looking.

  • @bransonbasher6534
    @bransonbasher6534 3 роки тому +1

    Your method of printing off the pictures to use as a guide during the painting stage is brilliant. I'm going to use that, thank you.

  • @urbanursine
    @urbanursine 4 роки тому +10

    By far, this is the best video about zenithal priming. Focused less on the how to do it but on why it is a good approach and what to do with it. Great content.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      I'm very please to hear that you like it. Thanks! I've been zenithal priming for so long without actually reaping the benifits. Figgured there's probably more out there like me.

    • @urbanursine
      @urbanursine 4 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures same. it was only until recently thay i started to take advantage of it

  • @angus3591
    @angus3591 3 роки тому +1

    Between 5:36 and 5:37 - "so then the highlights magically appeared, which saved me a great deal of time"
    Another great video, thanks!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      😂 love a bit of magic :) Thanks Angus!

  • @EricHonaker
    @EricHonaker 3 роки тому +10

    Ultramarine has always been one of my favorite pigments. For the color, sure. But I also just enjoy the idea that some artist looked at this precious stone people were making jewelry out of and thought "I bet it would look great if I smashed that to powder."

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +2

      I get that Eric! It's real interesting to read about the history of pigments. And how one used to dye clothes. I definitely can appreciate all that.

  • @ryangately7717
    @ryangately7717 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for making this video! I enjoy your style of delivery/explanation, it’s very calming. Also, great t-shirt.

  • @Rodrat
    @Rodrat 2 роки тому +3

    I've been enjoying using a zenithal prime because I don't have the easiest access to light where I'm painting unfortunately and the little bit of white over the black primer really allows me to see the details of the mini, where with a single color of priming makes everything disappear and blend together for me.

  • @MordiansBumole
    @MordiansBumole 2 роки тому +1

    the best and most likable paint channel out there guys

  • @simbobcrafts4843
    @simbobcrafts4843 3 роки тому +10

    I've seen so many UA-camrs doing zenithal priming but then covering up all their work with paints that are quite obviously opaque. The priming doesn't show in many cases. Using glazes on top of zenithal primed models is a cool technique

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +4

      Yes, quite right. The thought behind it is to use the zenithal prime as a guide. Even if it is painted over with opaque paints it helps getting the highlights and shadows in the right places (if one follows the zenithal guide). Just covering it without baring the guide in mind is quite pointless.

  • @gemlord6
    @gemlord6 2 роки тому +1

    Love your tone in which you speak and the way you explain is excellent. I am seriously grabbing a notepad next video. Instant new subscriber. Thank you

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  2 роки тому +1

      Great to hear. Welcome to the channel Rob

  • @timwanger4491
    @timwanger4491 3 роки тому +1

    I have been a little late to the party but I really enjoy your channel and the videos. I started mini painting after a 20 year break and you gave me already a lot of really good advice on how to further proceed into the hobby. Love the idea of taking a photo of the zenithal primed minis, increasing the contrast and printing it out!

  • @DanielEbeck
    @DanielEbeck 3 роки тому +2

    I’ve been using Zenithal for a while, but you always make me think and have a fresh idea for where to go next time. Thanks.

  • @cRPGeek
    @cRPGeek 4 роки тому +11

    This channel is amazing, definitely one of the top mini painting channels on YT atm. Back in the day you had to buy a 50$ DVD from CMON to get information and quality like this.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Well thank you very much, I appreciate hearing these things. It keeps me going :) If you feel like it you can always help the channel grow by spreading the word around town :)

  • @matthinton19
    @matthinton19 3 роки тому +1

    I dont think I've ever learnt so much from a painting video. Fantastic work

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Well thank you Matt! I’m glad to hear it.

  • @philgee486
    @philgee486 3 роки тому +1

    It's a real surprise to me that somehow I'd missed this vid. I am a real fan of the channel, both for the ideas it's sparked and the insight into processes (especially the wet blending vid - I'd always wet blended in a very freestyle way with honestly mixed results, and the idea of using milemarker premixes along the gradient, that can always be reproduced now allows me more consistency across a model's similar volumes but also allows wet blending across units now. That's pure 52M, exploring process with fresh eyes and a clever brain insight). The second aspect, and what makes me a fan is the manner of "presenter". Laid back, calm, good humoured, but still with 100% enthusiasm and total engagement with each subject shining through - that's not an easy combined achievement at all, and it comes across so effortlessly.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Well thank you Allwyn. The mid steps in wetblending have really helped me. I think sometimes the wetblends become a bit to "soft" though, so I try and have that in mind. But wetblening something like white or black straight, with another colour.. that's tricky stuff.

  • @vladimiravramov6969
    @vladimiravramov6969 3 роки тому +1

    You should have way more subscribers for the quality that you are putting out there. Make sure you keep going!
    As for the zenithal priming, thought about using it as a guide, as for anything more it is just too grainy from a can, and you just confirmed i was on the right path. Thanks for a great video!

  • @CyberCheese392
    @CyberCheese392 3 роки тому +1

    Lighten and darken the highlight _before_ putting on the washes! So simple yet so good!

  • @billdoor1569
    @billdoor1569 3 роки тому +1

    that spray paint transition was flawless haha well done

  • @gabrielramalho8977
    @gabrielramalho8977 3 роки тому +1

    Wow.... I don't even know how to put this into words. I have a question, can't find an answer anywhere. I watch one of your videos and every possible question that I ever had on the subject is now magicly answered and in a way I can relate to and understand. Thank you!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Well thanks, I'm glad to hear that I could help out :)

    • @gabrielramalho8977
      @gabrielramalho8977 3 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures I have been loving the accessibility of your content. Normally videos are kind of " this is super easy" and they just do it and when you try thousands of questions appear. You basically answer all these simple questions that end up making a lot of difference in the end

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      🙏

  • @jamiet1640
    @jamiet1640 2 роки тому +1

    Just want to say I *adore* your videos. They tick all of the boxes, but what is additional to me as pointed out many times by others:
    1) Your sense of humour rocks.
    2) There is no 'Smashing of that Like Button, ringing that bell and did I tell you about my Patreon Affiliated Money Tank also? It's for THE CHANNEL, to help THE CHANNEL (ye...the channel is you, d&&khead!. Not YOU 52...)).
    3) I love how you explain things so eloquently.
    Just, keep on man :)
    Cheers, J

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you humbly Jamie! I really do appreciate it.

  • @Steff_kjns
    @Steff_kjns 3 роки тому +1

    Its always great when I'm looking for a guide/tutorial and I see that you uploaded one on that very topic.
    Thanks, they are always helpful!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Awesome! One step ahead for a change :) I’m glad to hear it was helpful :)

  • @BaijoGosum
    @BaijoGosum 4 роки тому +4

    Using transparent paints over a zenithal prime is my preferred technique at the moment. I make glazes and do a bunch of super thin coats. I did a video lol. I love the thematic waves of videos that come out around each other lol. Thanks! That first mini looks real good! I take “luminosity guides” and than always forget to look at them lol

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +2

      We’re all making the same videos over and over 😂 The “luminosity guide” I’m going to be a bit more attentive with... it was very helpful and sort of made me pay attention / approach the paint job in a different manner than usual.

  • @cutley2b
    @cutley2b 3 роки тому +1

    I am just starting out figure painting and this video was a tremendous help! Especially the part about taking a photo and turning it into B&W. Wow, does THAT really show highlights & shadows.
    Thanks!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Lovely C, I'm glad this helped! Good luck :)

  • @nikkimouse85
    @nikkimouse85 3 роки тому +1

    I've tried it for the first time with spray cans, and I'm glad you showed me how the end results should look! Usually examples are shown when using an air brush, but I don't have one. Good to know I'm on the right track. Thanks for the tips; will be checking the rest of your channel :-)

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Great to hear N! I hope you also get something out of the other vids :)

  • @mariototsi5987
    @mariototsi5987 3 роки тому +1

    Cool and Zen way to explain Zenithal Priming. I really enjoy your narration, fascinated! Greetings from Greece and keep on spreading the word. Thank you

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Thank you Mario, I appreciate it. Have a nice weekend.

  • @emceha
    @emceha 3 роки тому +8

    Grey base, white zenithal, Slap three contrasts and you have tabletop ready army

  • @leestoop5739
    @leestoop5739 4 роки тому +1

    Really great video, I appreciate that you took the time to explain the purpose of Zenithal and then also explain the different ways of using it. I was really confused when I first started priming this way,your video makes things nice and clear. Your miniatures look amazing too! Looking forward to seeing more from you.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! And glad to hear I could clarify things. Most of the time I just complicate things 😂 have a great weekend 👋

    • @leestoop5739
      @leestoop5739 4 роки тому +1

      @@52Miniatures not at all! Your explanation and thought processes were well thought and thorough, really enjoyed. Enjoy your weekend, keep safe!

  • @andygorman858
    @andygorman858 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid and very accurate in your description. One artist I followed for ages was Ben Komets. He did an ACW figure (large scale...120mm I think), where he used this technique. He also glazed the colours on instead of washing. It appeared to give more controllable results. Will be trying this technique whenI get a chance!

  • @annoyingrequirement
    @annoyingrequirement 3 роки тому +1

    I'm just starting back into the hobby and painting soon, Stargrave to Blackstone fortress and more. This is a very well-done video and I have learned a lot to help me begin. Thanks, and enjoy all your content.

  • @PlayBoye86
    @PlayBoye86 3 роки тому +1

    That green cape looks bloody awesome! I really enjoy your videos.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Thanks Michael! I think that mini was one of my first "I'm just going to try and give this my best". Been doing it every now and again since and it's good practice.

  • @JPWestmas
    @JPWestmas 3 роки тому +2

    I find the black in the zenithal priming still effects the opaque pigment a lot no matter how I paint. You seem to like greens a lot. Try mixing a dark purple with a dark green for your green-blacks. You might like that too as it compliments well I find. A lot of your ink and wash ideas are really great, thanks. I thought it was really funny the first time I heard the name of the "blue ultra marines".

  • @christianschmidt1784
    @christianschmidt1784 4 роки тому +2

    Very good video. There are several videos out on this topic, but this one seemed both professional and simple. Very well explained and smooth to watch. 🤘🏻

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Christian, I'm happy to hear you liked it :)

  • @DavidHargis
    @DavidHargis 3 роки тому +2

    I am just getting started in the hobby and this style of priming and I am trying to figure out why and how. This is a great video. Thank you.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Welcome to the hobby David, I'm glad to hear the video is helpful to you. Sinking deeper into this hobby, I still do try and think of all that are starting fresh. To still keep that perspective to my videos as much as I can.

  • @neilmckie2768
    @neilmckie2768 4 роки тому +2

    Good video - I've been trying to use transparent paints over the zenithal priming, and then when I've got my colours down with the right luminosity, I apply glazes and gradients which follow the 'pattern of light', but add more depth to the colours. Mixed results at the moment, but hopefully I'll improve with practice. Thank you

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Great to hear! Keep going at it, it’s the only way to get anywhere :) there’s nothing saying you can’t go in with opaque paints as well. If there details you really want to highlight and stuff. Inks seem to be the way to go if your looking for more saturation. Have a lovely weekend!

  • @zamo9660
    @zamo9660 4 роки тому +4

    Have to agree here: just stumbled into your video and it's quite informative and relaxing. I've been using zenithal priming for quite time now and use in both ways.
    I've even painted a whole mini with just oils over a z priming.
    Well laid out info, relaxing but not boring and not over acted.
    I've been thinking about this topic for some time now: zp is a thing, people see it been done and jump in the bandwagon (or should I say the BADwagon).
    Been painting since early 90s and I enjoy both in-depth seminal vids and newbie focused ones. But there's a thing I can't stand, and it's people not having their own voice:
    People saying how to zp and z primming just to slap paint over not using it as reference nor building paint up from that. They just do cause you look less of a pro if you don't, and then let's keep the chatter about contrast here and there.
    It's ok if it rocks your boat but hate when others say a thing but their work doesn't live to their rich speech. I even unsubscribed some people as I feel they were repeating word by word whatever I (and definitely they) saw in someone's else vid.
    That's what IMHO made your video work: at least to me you feel authentic. You tell people what it is and how to use it, but most important WHY using it, so people have a true choice about using it or not doing.
    Sorry to write such long rambling, but the amount of work you put into the vid desevered to emphasize how spot on you are on this topic.
    Zenithal primming is just a tool in your arsenal, much like you said. If it doesn't fit you or doesn't feel fun to you then prime regular. But to zp and paint as you would over flat primming is objectively speaking, a waste of time and materials.
    Big thumbs up, loved. Great minis, BTW! :)

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +2

      👋 Hey Javier, I appreciate the time you took writing. And we seem to be on the same page here. It’s good to hear that my point of making the video is coming through - I’m sometimes not overly confident about that. Also thank you for letting me know of how you experienced the video itself. It’s not always clear from my side if I’m just rambling or actually coming across... I noticed that zp was the most searched for word among my videos, and I really can see why people are wanting to zp. But figured a simple clarification might be helpful to people. I was actually contemplating doing a third castigator using oil paint! But had to draw a line somewhere :) Anyhow, thank you for the great comment, very appreciated. By the way, are you Javier from GSW? Or just the same name?

    • @zamo9660
      @zamo9660 4 роки тому +1

      @@52Miniatures haha 😁 greenstuff world is a Spanish company (like scale 75 and Vallejo btw) and here Javier is much like being called Lars or Johan in Sweden. I just don't use nicknames on the internet. Quite old fashioned.
      Sorry to say I'm not that person but I'm sure you can contact him really easy if you wanted. Hobby company dudes here are really outgoing.
      Really enjoying your content so far, cat wait to see what you come up next 😍

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      👌 Yeah! You are absolutely right about a lot of good people about in the hobby. We have already been in contact. You share first and last name :) Thank you for all the feedback!

  • @dambrooks7578
    @dambrooks7578 3 роки тому +2

    I intend to combine this method when I start that Savage Orc team, previously I did a Chaos Black undercoat that I would drybrush white on to before painting a miniature to conclusion; although that was more so I could see beyond an indistinguishable black space from the rest of the indistinguishable (also) black spaces.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Nice Dam, good luck with that :)

  • @Mikey__R
    @Mikey__R 3 роки тому +2

    I do like value sketching! I find it helps as a guide for a wet blended base coat.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Getting a good push in getting the light right is just so valuable :)

  • @williamgordon
    @williamgordon Рік тому

    Your work looks great man 👍🏻 I just started so I’m watching tons of videos about all the different techniques

  • @jamiet1640
    @jamiet1640 2 роки тому +2

    This looks incredible (first mini, still watching!), very subtle.
    I, like you can get carried away highlighting as I love to see them appear! Do you think that dramatic affect you got on the first mini was because the print out 'guided / forced' you to leave that much black, hence giving it a high contrast? (That looks AWESOME BTW)!!!

  • @bartdevuyst
    @bartdevuyst 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video, once again. I like the second technique with Contrast Paints (or other non-opaque paints) over the zenithal priming. I'm getting fast and more than acceptable results. A technique for reducing some speckles from the zenithal priming would be great, but I guess it's a consequence of contrasting spray paints? Next up I'll try gray+black instead of white+black underneath.
    Anyhow, I feel there are very few videos on UA-cam of painters experimenting with Contrast Paints over a zenithal undercoat, so I'd love to see you explore this more... Although I assume that the results would be very similar to that second technique you showed here with the inks.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks Bart. If you go for a light grey rattle can, rather than a white. Warm the can in warm water (for peats sake not in any other way) and shake extensively.. you will be pretty much speckle free. Grey Seer is my favourite so far. If you have an airbrush.. well then it's another story. Speckles should not be much of an issue. Regarding the contrast paint over Zenithal, have you checked out TableTop Minions? Adam over there talks a lot about this.. and (although I haven't checked myself) he streams on twitch a lot, I'm assuming the technique is used frequently during his painting streams.

    • @bartdevuyst
      @bartdevuyst 3 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures Thanks for the reply! I'll try heating the cans a bit more, next time. I follow TableTop Minions, another one of my favorite channels. In fact, he discussed the Contrast+Zenith technique in one of his recent videos. I have to check his painting streams to see him apply it, didn't think about that yet!

  • @emfazzise5543
    @emfazzise5543 4 роки тому +3

    Found you while looking into why i should zenithal highlight and thank you it was very informative il defo be subbing and following tht pointy finger for more.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      Thanks! I try and hide some nuggets of information in a the rambling :) Welcome!

  • @hmsapereira
    @hmsapereira 3 роки тому +1

    Really good video and great paint job. Subscribed!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Thank you and welcome to the channel Henry

  • @duogemstone
    @duogemstone 4 роки тому +2

    I'll be honest I've only ever used zenithal priming to help pick out the details when painting but definitely going to use the tip of taking a pic and using it as a hightlight guide

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      I wish you luck! I find it very useful :)

  • @harmen4750
    @harmen4750 4 роки тому +4

    Great video, exactly the topic I was looking for!

  • @thegrizzlygentleman9443
    @thegrizzlygentleman9443 3 роки тому +1

    I realise that this is an old video. You're probably never going to see this @52Miniatures.
    That said, I have NEVER watched a UA-camr, of any genre or content variety, who was just genuine and easy to listen to. I forgot I was watching a video, it was more like a chat with a friend.
    The content is fantastic, informative and thorough, with out being boring. But you as a person ... there is something about you. You're so easy to listen to. I trust that you are trying to help me and not maximise your revenue. I feel like you give a crap about my painting and how I engage with the craft. If you ever decide to lead a cult, we're all screwed!
    I have never subscribed so fast in my life. Best of luck for the future of this channel and for yourself personally. Thank you for the content you make and all the help you've given me.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Welcome to the channel G, I very much appreciate your comment - and I’m glad the videos can inspire. Hopefully, there will never be a cult.. maybe just a small one.. about painting miniatures 😂

  • @Gzelfegor
    @Gzelfegor 4 роки тому +1

    Hi.I just stumbled upon your channel and watched most od videos in one go.I'd obviously subscribed.Firstly I'd like to say,you inspired me.Mainly to take another look on my hobby and my approach.You are so relaxed and calm when you talk about anything you do with minis or terrain.You try new things,playing with the whole hobby aspect,not trying to do God knows what,just letting it flow.I admire that.
    Secondly,how did you came up with this colour scheme for first castigator?It's brilliant.Blue,green,red,basic colours and you did amazing job with them.That mini looks so good that I'm considering painting my stormcast this way.
    Keep on that good work.Cheers.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Wow, thank you for telling me all. It is really nice to hear that the videos can inspire others in the hobby. I try and just convey my own hobby experience without to much of a plan or spectacle... regarding the color scheme... I’m hoping to be able to do a video on the subject but I’m not sure yet how to do it constructively. Almost every scheme starts with a first idea, in this case it was the blue armor. After that I decide a supplementing color... and then test paint usually (sometimes just on a piece of paper), and see what tone I would like ie. in this case what type of green. The rest just sort of happened by itself. And that’s why it’s difficult to make a video about the subject. I don’t really use color wheels or anything like that yet. I just go with what I feel like. I’m glad you found your way here and hope the videos will continue to be of insight and inspiration.

    • @Gzelfegor
      @Gzelfegor 4 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures Do this video like you always do. I already got it only from the way you described it in the comment, so it's good. To be honest, I really like your way of explaining things. Your way of telling everything bit by bit is very understandable and clear. You seem to think that you're overexplaining and talk to much but that's not true in my opinion. And you proved to be worth of listening :)
      About that colour scheme - I paint miniatures for quite a while but I haven't ever come up with such appeling and eye catching colour scheme. Even when I would've paint those colours on piece of paper/plasticard I would've difficulties to imagine the final result. Even with colour wheel. My wife is so much better witch that. I'm good when it comes to repeat someone else work,for now. So, I'm really looking forward to see your channel growing. Fingers crossed :)

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you! I’ll keep on going and cross my fingers to. Sounds like fun to have painting time with your wife! Great stuff 👍

    • @Gzelfegor
      @Gzelfegor 4 роки тому +1

      @@52Miniatures since you try new things in painting,maybe you should try this ua-cam.com/video/mMFMFJQla6Y/v-deo.html - it appeared in '"recomended" under your video.I,for one,will give it a go.So I will try that new thing in painting for the first time since...very log time I guess 😊

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому +1

      Yes I’ve done a bit. For now I like to use oil paints for “shading” and weathering effects. And for painting terrain. But I haven’t been painting entire minis with only oil paints yet.

  • @Meneillos
    @Meneillos 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing video and really good painting skills. I have subscribed (as I hope many other people do given the quality of your job) and I look forward of what you can bring, specially with regards of contrast paints: I believe they are "weird" enough to be used in many ways!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      I'm glad to hear it, welcome to the channel. I must admit I'm a novice at contrast paints. I have two or three that I really like for certain applications but on the whole my experience is limited. Do you use them a lot?

  • @craftedterrains3036
    @craftedterrains3036 3 роки тому +1

    This is extremely helpful! thank you for sharing this with all of us :)

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      My pleasure, I'm glad you find it helpful. Happy New Year!

  • @curbyx5439
    @curbyx5439 3 роки тому +1

    The feels when you saw zenithal priming in a video that didnt really explain it and just wing it.. and after the 3rd black coat (since the white looked fucked) finally look up how its done.. :D thank you for the video .. wish i would have watched it earlier

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Well thanks Laura, I'm glad to hear this helped :)

  • @flowinsounds
    @flowinsounds 3 роки тому +1

    Just found your channel. epic. Love your style

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Welcome to the channel F, I appreciate it :)

  • @chris357t
    @chris357t 3 роки тому +1

    I found this very helpful thank you :)

  • @MsMirage2012
    @MsMirage2012 3 роки тому +1

    So glad I found this video

  • @hanson251985
    @hanson251985 3 роки тому +1

    Hey man I love your videos, did you ever paint with scale 75 paints? I paint with Vallejo and I'm just wondering about scale 75. Cheers :)

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jakub, I'm glad to hear you like the videos. Yes, I pretty much only paint with Scale75 paints now. Tried a few for fun and can't go back. There are still a lot of the Vallejo paints I use but the scale75 just.. I don't know, I like the tones, they all work very well with each other. Some of the Scale75 paints are dificult to paint with, but most of them not. For me the matte surface helps a lot while painting and the the paint takes dilution very well.

  • @comicfan92
    @comicfan92 2 роки тому +1

    I was unsubscribed for some reason earlier. Re subscribed! I did a zenithal prime on some song of ice and fire knight. It came out grainy for some reason. But it aged the armor well. Painting had been smooth overall. Video coming of your experience with Conquest soon?

  • @scotsbillhicks
    @scotsbillhicks 3 роки тому +1

    A road map for light. Most succinct. Obscuring with opaque paint; point taken.

  • @wraithita
    @wraithita 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, I’m definitely gonna try!

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      I'm glad to hear it! I'm hooked on this stuff :)

    • @wraithita
      @wraithita 3 роки тому +1

      @@52Miniatures May I ask u what do u think about doing this on primarily metallic model, like Necron?

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Works great. You can use a metallic instead of a white if you like. I’ve done a vid on that I think. “Speed painting Necrons” or something similar.

  • @rbij
    @rbij 3 роки тому +1

    Liked and subscribed. Like your video style :)

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Glad to hear it Roy, welcome to the channel.

  • @jonathanlim6250
    @jonathanlim6250 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you and great video especially day of my Birthday hehehe

  • @Born_Stellar
    @Born_Stellar 3 роки тому +1

    I was doing it a bit but by the time I apply all my colours I don't think it exists anymore. Having a picture of the model is a really good idea though, I will probably try that and then have them on a screen to look at while painting.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, do give it a try. Just using it as a guide, and really trying to stick to the guide can work out real well. It is difficult once the guide is gone though. So shoot some pictures :)

  • @fransaacs
    @fransaacs 3 роки тому

    I've experimented with cool dark and warm light colours for zenithal priming rather than black and white. I prefer how semi transparent base layers (filters?) work over the top, bringing in more opaque highlighting at the end of the printing process.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Now that sounds pretty smart F! I will have to dabble with that.

    • @fransaacs
      @fransaacs 3 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures *should have read painting process
      The idea for using the technique came from how I learnt to paint still life and life models at art school, very academic, very traditional, the roots of which were working 'en brunaille' or 'en grisaille'.

  • @miguelmora7564
    @miguelmora7564 3 роки тому +1

    My biggest struggle is paint consistency. Your consistency looks very watered down, when I do that I find that it discourages me because it isn't opaque. Do you find that you just need to be patient and build it up in layers?

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      Miguel, hope you are doing well and staying safe. Yes... most of the time I paint a lot of layers. To get the first layer down can sometimes feel like it takes a to much time. But once I start building up highlights I don’t think to much about it. Even if the coverage is not great, it will be covered by a brighter paint, and then a brighter paint. In the end it all builds up and all the thin layers become a smoother transition... but I definitely understand why people hunt the perfect consistency.
      Something that flows well but also gives good coverage... I haven’t gotten that far yet... it’s so dependent on the paint used, so there’s no default value. I’ve seen some painters that don’t dilute the paint in the wet palette. Instead they first dip the brush in water on the wet palette (or some “flow” mixture) then dip the brush in paint. I guess the moisture in the brush helps keep the paint moist but also “pushes” out the paint off the brush, giving a good flow...

  • @blindserpent8414
    @blindserpent8414 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @xsamitt
    @xsamitt Рік тому +1

    Thank you sir!!!

  • @richardlivings8640
    @richardlivings8640 4 роки тому +1

    Helpful video...as always.

  • @bsgaming3773
    @bsgaming3773 4 роки тому +1

    Great video

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      Thank you Branden 🙏 have a lovely weekend.

  • @Braindead154
    @Braindead154 17 днів тому

    The problem I have with zenithal is that black is a color. I zenithal and then add a yellow wash, the recesses don’t come out dark yellow, they come out green. I like to use a single, top down light to snap a photo of my grey plastic miniature and then change contrast of the photo. Then I just prime in whatever base makes sense.

    • @Braindead154
      @Braindead154 17 днів тому

      There’s a really good video on UA-cam by an art professor who goes into depth about why art students are told not to use black.

  • @squishcognito6780
    @squishcognito6780 3 роки тому +1

    I was looking away during the spray can transitions and got freaked out when i saw you holding different brand bottles 🤔

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      I'm not sure I get what you mean.

  • @Virakotxa
    @Virakotxa 3 роки тому +1

    Hmm... I wouldn't spin the miniature when applying the white, it kind of defeats the purpose of a directional light. Your zenithal ended looking like a wash over gray... You could have done that and take the picture reference with an exaggerated directional light "frozen in place", but you took those again with very much a neutral light... It work for keeping a good check on the contrast, but you can achieve an even more natural and dramatic look making it hit from a single direction. But for the best of both worlds by using gray like you did and a white for a truly directional (and more contained) last pass.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      Not if the directional light is supposed to mimic the light from a sky. I definitely understand your point, for me personally I do not find it all that useful for tabletop miniatures. This is an introduction video to zenithal priming, to explain the concept in the simplest way. Then it is up to the individual viewer, like yourself, to take it further.

    • @Virakotxa
      @Virakotxa 3 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures So omnidirectional makes me think more of studio lighting, but yeah... guess in an overcast day it would be still realistic. Of course, not having to find the "golden angle" of the sculpt, and light it accordingly makes this style of zenithal priming more accessible. Anyways... great experiments on how to keep it showing! Here to learn, so thanks!

  • @eliazarvalentine7690
    @eliazarvalentine7690 3 роки тому +3

    It’s always high noon somewhere

  • @johnbeaudoin7820
    @johnbeaudoin7820 3 роки тому +1

    “Not . . . impressed”; I laughed at that, so I suppose I was impressed!

  • @Malumbrus
    @Malumbrus 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry, this is unrelated to your craft, but what do you have around your neck?

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому

      A scarf :) but it's like a tube. Wonderful stuff.

  • @JiM-SWEET-art
    @JiM-SWEET-art 3 роки тому +1

    The easy solution to not wanting to lose the effect of zenithal priming is zenithal painting.

  • @mr.fetching2267
    @mr.fetching2267 4 роки тому +1

    I subbed for the gaiter.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      Awesome! What’s a gaiter? 😬

    • @mr.fetching2267
      @mr.fetching2267 4 роки тому +1

      @@52Miniatures That neck scarf. ;D

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      Hah! Awesome! Realized I didn’t wear it for the video I recorded this week. Hope you stay anyway 😂

  • @mylesjohnson7351
    @mylesjohnson7351 2 роки тому +1

    Don’t buy citadel spray cans rustoleum is only like 4 dollars for a can and it’s the same thing

  • @IamAlpharius30k
    @IamAlpharius30k 3 роки тому +1

    nothing like a little free-basing lmao!

  • @petermerison4002
    @petermerison4002 4 роки тому +1

    Pink Floyd Fan?

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  4 роки тому

      Once upon a time very much so, but when I saw that t-shirt recently I just couldn’t stop myself.

    • @petermerison4002
      @petermerison4002 4 роки тому

      @@52Miniatures Only the cool kids will know,eh? ;-)

  • @bubs5278
    @bubs5278 3 роки тому

    You may be an amazing painter but man you need to work on your delivery. you put me to sleep twice while trying to get through this video.

    • @52Miniatures
      @52Miniatures  3 роки тому +1

      I'm glad to hear you got a refreshing nap time, but I'm afraid (unless the nap thing is a definitive positive thing) this probably might not be the channel for you.

  • @Optionvideo209
    @Optionvideo209 2 роки тому

    Earth, not a globe.

  • @manolisanastasiou6393
    @manolisanastasiou6393 2 роки тому +1

    Love the second minature