Yep. When talking to Gul Beneal, Garak issued his command like an authority figure who was used to having his orders obeyed and only felt the need to say them once.
"The quarters are claustrophobic!" I have watched this series many times and I do believe that might be the most straightforward and honest line ever spoken by Garak.
If my memory servers right, it was because his father locked him up as a kid, and it was mentioned in the prison camp in season 5, so it could be that it was not canon yet. Maybe I missed an earlier reference. The actor was claustrophobic however. He even played a claustrophobic attack in season 7.
I prefer some of his actual quotes like “The truth is simply evidence of a lack of imagination” or “I don’t tell the truth because I don’t believe there is such a thing”
I love the look on odo's face. "It was something I overheard while hemming someone's trousers." That look said "I can't even imitate bullshit that good"
the acting in ds9 was top notch you only start to realise once you start paying attention to the characters off to the side or in the background my favourite series of trek would love to see a sequel on ds9
I like to think that when Garak makes a shameless whopper like that, it's like a peace offering to the people he regularly lies to (read: to people). Sort of like a "I know you're not going to buy any explanation I give you, you know I know that, so lets just skip the pretense and get on with it" type deal :D.
I'd totally see Cardassian operatives reporting a lazy border guard for FAILING to do due diligence in the middle of a secret mission. If things go wrong, it should be because the system is working so well.
I love it - it's stern but it doesn't put a scare into him so he fixates on it and maybe tries to dig and see if he is in any trouble or not. It's such a good touch, the guy thinks he ran into some high level shit but he knows he was just doing his job and he doesn't have to give it any more thought.
Apparently the notoriety of that part killed his career for some time- something of a mixed bag, being the "you KILLED it in that movie- let's get you another part just like that!" guy when you're an actor (they never want to be that guy)
Most people would say Kirk or Data or something. I'd be torn between Garak and Weyoun. Then again I think I like all the non-Federation cast members the best, with the exception of Sisko who's up there.
+Agent of Chaos well it was based on the actors actual claustrophobia. The writers were aware of it because of how much of an ordeal it was to be under all that make up, and the Robinson's close interaction with them.
+JulioR38 That's because it was intended as a warship, normal Starfleet vessels are flexible vehicles designed to adapt to a variety of roles including long term deep space exploration, therefore extra room is made in crew quarters. The Defiant isn't expected to perform in such roles and so doesn't have much room.
The Defiant is shown as being very compact compared to other Starfleet ships, and was pretty much thrown together from a prototype hastily to deal with the Borg, then refit to deal with the Dominion. While the TNG Enterprise is like a cruise liner, the Defiant is more a submarine. (Even coming with a cloaking device)
Way I figure, those clearance codes are probably one-shot codes. They verify as Obsidian Order, but even if regular military logs are wiped (as expected), the Order likely keeps tabs of every code entered for verification, with the codes automatically expiring upon being used. After all, if a regular mook happens to hear a code being used and then proceeds to try to use the same code later for his own purposes, it not only shouldn't work, but its attempted reuse should be logged and flagged for review.
That's not even the scariest thing about Garak. If the paper bag itself had family, Garak would know at least 10 ways to coerce them to get what he wants...... and actually wouldn't hesitate to pick one and carry it out.
"Oh it was just something I overheard while I was hemming someone's trousers.." LMAO!!! I love Garak's role on Deep Space nine. He is by far one of my favorite Star Trek characters of all time!
Apparently, Garak learned a lot while hemming trousers. You might say it was a very revealing experience. Hah, gotta love Garak. Great character, well written, well acted.
Maybe, but he was also very good at knowing when to show his allies just how useful he could be. He may not have _liked_ showing his cards, but he sure as hell saw the value in doing so.
@@nategraham6946 In the business Garak employs, it is entirely likely he played the lowest hand he had as well. the tried and true "Don't play an Ace if a two will do".
@@nategraham6946 oh 100%. It doesn't matter how good a card is if you never play it, and you CAN'T play it if you're dead. That's why information that valuable has to be worth the investment, and it takes a lot of skill and wisdom (which Garak has) to recognize when it is necessary to avoid excessive force. Rule of Acquisition #3: Never pay more for an Acquisition than you have to.
@@aidancox5481 I just thought about this before this video. For all his power (or maybe because of it) Q was shit at manipulating people to do what he wanted. United with Garak on the other hand, those two would be unstoppable.
I was going to say that I felt bad for the actor who got all that Kobheerian make up put on for the few seconds that they used him for, but it turns out that it was just stock footage from a previous episode.
Don't be daft............................... Garak would have the body stashed on board the Defiant, somewhere. Likely in a storage compartment in one of the shuttles.
mahdogzbite "Wow... that clearance code has the word BLACK in it... must be very serious." You have obviously never seen the clearance code that calls for ballerina pink.
***** Ah, Garak! How nice of you to stop by. I need my thermal underwear readjusted, I lost a bit of weight. Oh, did you hear the latest on Romulan operatives in Cardassia? Is 800 hours too early to stop by?
I still think the Federation should change their ships' color schemes to ballerina pink. See, if they're laughing at you, they can't aim or think properly.
Babylon 5 did a nice lampshade of this once with the Captain having a clearance code "Obisidian", the XO "Griffin", and the Security Chief having the code "Peekaboo". When questioned, he says, "Would you have guessed it?"
After all these years I just realized the security code Garak uses is not his own. I always assumed it was his own code that he had somehow hidden in the Obsidian Order’s files so that it wasnt disabled when Garak was exiled, but now that I think about it, it would make far more sense for Garak to have gleaned the code from another member of the Obsidian Order...possible from Enabrain Tain himself. It fits his MO better and also works as a potential blackmailing tool.
Nah you see Tain allowed garak to steal the code from him, but the code was means to get Garak to come back to Cardassia so the two men could get drunk on kanar.
You just know Garak probably has a small "emergency" stash of Cardassian codes. Each code are probably good for one use only. Sorta like a "burner cell phone" in real life. Use it once then toss it.
when i watched this years ago it makes me think of his phrase all the stories are true especially the lies. my money is he stole every cardassian's codes he ever worked for worked under or tailored for on ds9 when it was terok nor so he would have plenty of escape options when encountering cardassians during exile
@@lordsathariel4384 Hard to say. Remember he could still move around the station during the "worker revolt" lockdown. That seemed to be on his own authority, not anyone else's. Although it could have been just because the sensors could detect he was Cardassian.
He heard almost as much as a gardener in his last job. Quite an ear for gossip, that 'blue collar' Garak. You'd almost think he was an undercover spy or something.
SantomPh OH, I never said it wasn't true. It obviously was a real code, but the way the Garak delivered it, as if it were a totally normal day, is just too priceless.
That he was Obsidian Order was known from Day 1. That's why people tried to warn Dr. Bashir (a spy himself it turned out lol) away when he got friendly with Garak.
Great comment Andy - i was wondering if anyone else caught the reaction of Odo in the background.. the folding of the arms and the head turn (like he just smelled a bad odor of pooo.. ) was the kind of subtleness that made the show so popular. :)
It just occurred to me for the first time, that watching Garak on screen over the past few decades would be a very different experience than having to be right next to him, I mean I don't think I could sleep knowing he was on the same ship...the dude is astonishingly effective at everything he does. He's like the Cardassian equivalent of Leonardo Da Vinci... he's a dangerous government agent with the level of that amount of brilliance Garak has officially "made" DS9 for me....
Garak's eyes are just spectacular, from about 2:20 on. Remember what Tain said in reference to him: "His eyes!" With a look like that, who cares about the code? I just wish he had referenced the Order instead of Central Command, but oh well.
Tobias Walker We couldn't have too many, it'd ruin how unique it is? And that look is impressive. Even a weeping angel would be terrified, if you'll pardon the Doctor Who cross-reference.
Garak Was really one of the most interesting characters on the show and one of my favorites. The actor was terrific. His dialog always had so much hidden humor and sarcasm
I see this scene and can't help thinking of that Red Dwarf episode where Lister and Cat stick googly eyes on their chins and pretend to be space aliens.
On DS9 it's interchangeable. In 'Improbable Cause' Bashir asks Garak to finish off the trousers he dropped off a week before. Later on after Garak's shop blows up he says "I'm afraid Doctor that you pants won't be ready today afterall.
You would think Gul Benil would be a little bit more suspicious when he sees what looks like Federation displays and an interior behind Garek. That security code Garek gave must have been pretty damn high level.
So love this particular scene. Garak utterly devastating Gul's authority by something he could as well have entirely fabricated in that moment's notice, for whatever the reason he knew what the code was...given his background I wouldn't be surprised if he knew the exact algorhytm used to generate these codes. Would definitely fit into his character.
"Oh it was just something I overheard while I was hemming someone's trousers." :P Great line and it works because of the delivery, Garak truly is one of Trek's best characters
The voice of the Cardassian Computer was provided by Judi M. Durand. She also provided the Federation's Computer Voice in Elite Force 1 and Armada 1 & 2.
I mean, having a code that identifies you as a big deal and puts anyone who defies you on a "to kidnap" list would make it easy to convince someone that you are speaking the truth. Or if you aren't, that they don't want to know what the truth is.
I liked Garak he was pretty interesting especially for someone who was once part of the obsidian order, also I like how at first no one really trusted him but by the time of the Dominion War started or leading up to it people on the station trusted him and he was friends with a few members on the command staff
Here's something I wonder: surely the Cardassians would occasionally revoke old codes and give out new ones. Tain and Garak as the two most powerful people in the organization in charge of having all the information undoubtedly set up the systems that would assign those codes. Did Garak trust Tain so little that when he was programming the system that automatically gives out new codes, he set it up so it would always update him? Or did Tain trust Garak so much that even though he knew that Garak still had access to new codes even after being exiled, Tain allowed him to keep getting new codes so he could save himself if he was in danger? I don't know which of those options is more heartbreaking.
I think the Obsidian Order codes were hard-encoded into Cardassian circuitry. Like Quark's contact in "the Wire" looking up Garak's implant... Just looking up bioware... [alarm]. I'll bet the Obsidian Order never needed to cancel codes... they just [cancel] the individual who used them improperly...
@@varianschirmer9375 That seems a touch short-sighted. What if the codes somehow found their way into the hands of Cardassia's enemies? It would only have to happen once, and their entire security apparatus would be laid bare. That would be an unacceptable risk, especially for a regime as paranoid as that of the Cardassian Empire. Far safer to create a more flexible system, where codes can be written off and replaced periodically. Or even allow the old codes to keep working, but be flagged as compromised behind the scenes, so that the Obsidian Order can track whoever's using the out-of-date code.
Garak. Every single episode he was involved in was brilliant. So innocent but absaloutly lethal, could plot his way round almost anything. DS9 is my fav star Trek and has an awesome cast. So many brilliant and creative episodes. I watch the boxset when there is nothing on tv.
How lucky that Garak chose that moment to snoop - I mean, stretch his legs. Any earlier he’d have been on his way back to his quarters. Any later and they’d have been in battle.
@@eathr349 Astute observation! Considering it's Garak and he is steeped in the details of fleet procedures, and the dogmatism with which they are carried out - and the sycophantish fear the regular fleet would have for the Obsidian Order - this was just another day's work for a simple tailor.
I just want to see 1. the Cardassian Union think the screech rhinos have achieved sentience and hyperspace drives, 2. try to conquer the screech rhinos, 3. get their asses stoved in by what they believe to be screech rhinos, and 4. decide that the screech rhinos are just not worth bothering with
I love Odo's face when Garek says he overheard it when hemming trousers. There is more to love in this single scene than in most episodes of Voyager or TNG.
"You were doing your duty... donkey balls. End transmission!" Just a reference to the show "the expanse" which dealt with a very similar situation. It is a funny but of lore.
It's amazing how I sided with Garak against literally anyone else, even when the show's writers tried to make us dislike him. The only one exception is when they infected Garak with that xenophobia mindset, but I won't spoil what happened there.
There is just something intriguing and attractive about Garak. I sided with him and other Cardassians even thought they did horrible things. Its just in the way they carry themselves I find attractive.
Do you know that one time, entirely through no fault of his own, Garak overheard vital Federation intelligence regarding secret invasion plans of the Klingon Empire? To his credit, Garak told nobody. Oh, he may have casually mentioned it when bickering with his frenemy Gul Dukat one time but clearly they were both more interested in talking about how much they hate each other. I sometimes suspect Gul Dukat was secretly a tailor and they were jealous of each other's stitchery.
2 of my favourite tropes in Star Trek are: 1 - Needing to make up some exotic alien species, so they combine some alien sounding word with a regular animal species 2 - Not understanding the metric system or scale Jadzia saying "2000 tonne screech-rhino" is the perfect combination of those 2 tropes. "It's not a regular rhino, it's a screech rhino, and it's 2000 tonnes, making it 10 times bigger than a blue whale"
3000 tons Imperial is 2721,5 tonnes Metric, not that much of a difference. She speaks of mass (tons/tonnes), not weight, therefor not taking the gravity of the world into account (unless its 1,0G). If it were a high gravity world, the weight would be even larger. More likely it's an error in the scripting or she misspoke.
Notice how Garak doesn't blink while he's dressing down the Gul. Now THAT is the mark of a good actor. My eyes were watering with how long he held that stare while delivering those lines.
This is a true testament of Andrew Robinson's performance, going from unassuming to total badass in two seconds flat, and goes right back to unassuming a mere seven seconds later.
Probably some kind of constantly changing rolling code based off a private key impregnated in his brain. Real life devices like this do exist to log into security sensitive sites.
I don't think it was his personal code, storing agents data on every ship would be unbelievable security risk. More like it's something that, when put into warship's computer, returns "DO NOT DISTURB. DELETE LOGS OF CONTACT. SPEAK ABOUT IT TO NO ONE."
The best part is his compulsive, reflexive need to lie at the end to create the slightest fig leaf of doubt. "Overheard while hemming trousers.". Please.
I love how quickly Garak switches from "commanding Obsidian Order agent" to "unassuming tailor"...
If you think there's a difference between the two, you've never heard him order you to stop fidgeting so he can measure your waist
Plain, simple, garak.
Everyone has reason to fear the order--- Enabren Tain
Yep. When talking to Gul Beneal, Garak issued his command like an authority figure who was used to having his orders obeyed and only felt the need to say them once.
@@TheKyrix82 I imagine that's pretty accurate.
"The quarters are claustrophobic!"
I have watched this series many times and I do believe that might be the most straightforward and honest line ever spoken by Garak.
More straightforward and honest than when Garak comments that he's a very good tailor?
I believe it was canonical stated that he really is claustrophobic; due to one of his training scenarios in Cardassia's schools.
If my memory servers right, it was because his father locked him up as a kid, and it was mentioned in the prison camp in season 5, so it could be that it was not canon yet. Maybe I missed an earlier reference.
The actor was claustrophobic however. He even played a claustrophobic attack in season 7.
What about when he called Root Beer vile?
@@DeidaraSakurasama Sorry it's a little late, but here's the confirmation of his claustrophobia. ua-cam.com/video/h2tzdbBgXC8/v-deo.html
"I don't always tell the truth, but when I do, I lie." - Elim Garak, the Most Interesting Man in the Galaxy.
You mean a simple tailor
@@crimsonphoenix1175 I choose to believe Geoffrey Rush was actually Garak in disguise in Earth's past, in the "The Tailor of Panama".
I prefer some of his actual quotes like “The truth is simply evidence of a lack of imagination” or “I don’t tell the truth because I don’t believe there is such a thing”
@ I'm sorry to hear about your sense of humor. How did it die?
Mystery man of the galactic scale.
I love the look on odo's face.
"It was something I overheard while hemming someone's trousers."
That look said
"I can't even imitate bullshit that good"
I think he was thinking: "hemming someone's trousers", yeah right.
Like Quark, a bit of a problem locally, but it is good that these 'delinquents' on on their side.
the acting in ds9 was top notch you only start to realise once you start paying attention to the characters off to the side or in the background my favourite series of trek would love to see a sequel on ds9
I like to think that when Garak makes a shameless whopper like that, it's like a peace offering to the people he regularly lies to (read: to people). Sort of like a "I know you're not going to buy any explanation I give you, you know I know that, so lets just skip the pretense and get on with it" type deal :D.
@@kevlarchicken as much as I totally agree you know it wouldn't be the same. Better to preserve the legacy than tarnish the name
It's an older code, sir, but it checks out.
appreciate the reference
Wrong universe but ok
@@justanotherasian4395 Gee, mister, do ya think?
@@edmundnschrag gee, do you get that's part of the joke
@@justanotherasian4395 You sound like you didn't.
"You're not Khobeerian."
"Very observant of you." LMAO
DblOSmith LMAOOOO
Trolling is a art.
"VERY, Observant..."
They didn't need the holofilters, right? Odo is right there on the bridge.
@delta5297 He's not good at shape shifting at that point.
I absolutely love the exchange of "I had no idea..." "You were doing your duty". So very cardassian.
I'd totally see Cardassian operatives reporting a lazy border guard for FAILING to do due diligence in the middle of a secret mission. If things go wrong, it should be because the system is working so well.
I love it - it's stern but it doesn't put a scare into him so he fixates on it and maybe tries to dig and see if he is in any trouble or not. It's such a good touch, the guy thinks he ran into some high level shit but he knows he was just doing his job and he doesn't have to give it any more thought.
Garak really was a magnificent character. Brilliantly written and brilliantly brought to life by the actor. One of Trek's best characters for sure.
+Alan Frost And that actor is Andrew Robinson whose first role in TV/movies was in Dirty Harry. :)
I agree, Garak is one of my favorites
Apparently the notoriety of that part killed his career for some time- something of a mixed bag, being the "you KILLED it in that movie- let's get you another part just like that!" guy when you're an actor (they never want to be that guy)
"Never tell the Truth when a lie will suffice". "Overheard" indeed!☺
Most people would say Kirk or Data or something. I'd be torn between Garak and Weyoun.
Then again I think I like all the non-Federation cast members the best, with the exception of Sisko who's up there.
That comment about the quarters being claustrophobic is a pretty brilliant piece of subtle setup work.
Colin Killick Oh shi-! I never picked that up
+Colin Killick the few time they showed the crew quarters on the defiant they always seemed a bit small compared to order ships.
+Agent of Chaos well it was based on the actors actual claustrophobia. The writers were aware of it because of how much of an ordeal it was to be under all that make up, and the Robinson's close interaction with them.
+JulioR38 That's because it was intended as a warship, normal Starfleet vessels are flexible vehicles designed to adapt to a variety of roles including long term deep space exploration, therefore extra room is made in crew quarters. The Defiant isn't expected to perform in such roles and so doesn't have much room.
The Defiant is shown as being very compact compared to other Starfleet ships, and was pretty much thrown together from a prototype hastily to deal with the Borg, then refit to deal with the Dominion. While the TNG Enterprise is like a cruise liner, the Defiant is more a submarine. (Even coming with a cloaking device)
The way Robinson so easily shifts from "humble tailor" to "cold, calculating officer" is legendary
I wish we'd seen it more
Less is more, I'd hate to see his character ruined in some way by nu-Trek...
While I would have loved to see more of him on DS9 it would have just made the rest of the excellent cast pale by comparison.
@@serpenthydra I want to Garak on Lower Decks having some fun with our ensigns.
Agreed. Don't get me started on the borg...
Way I figure, those clearance codes are probably one-shot codes. They verify as Obsidian Order, but even if regular military logs are wiped (as expected), the Order likely keeps tabs of every code entered for verification, with the codes automatically expiring upon being used. After all, if a regular mook happens to hear a code being used and then proceeds to try to use the same code later for his own purposes, it not only shouldn't work, but its attempted reuse should be logged and flagged for review.
If Garak ever got a paper bag over his head he'd probably be able to convince the paper bag to get off his head of its own will.
LOL!!
Or at least get off some rather cutting remarks doing permanent psychological damage
If Garak was robbing a bank, he'd be able to convince the cops to rob with him.
@@HeroesHoshi _While_ convincing the bank manager that it was his money all along.
That's not even the scariest thing about Garak. If the paper bag itself had family, Garak would know at least 10 ways to coerce them to get what he wants...... and actually wouldn't hesitate to pick one and carry it out.
"Oh it was just something I overheard while I was hemming someone's trousers.." LMAO!!! I love Garak's role on Deep Space nine. He is by far one of my favorite Star Trek characters of all time!
+Matthew Mullins Mine too.
I wish we could've seen him hanging out with Q.
It's been years since I'd seen this, but this line has stuck with me. Garak was the best.
DS9 had a lot of cool characters, Garak being notable among them
Apparently, Garak learned a lot while hemming trousers. You might say it was a very revealing experience.
Hah, gotta love Garak. Great character, well written, well acted.
For a simple tailor, Garak has quite the intimidating presence. To bad he never joined the Obsidian Order.
he was part of the Obsidian order....his father is the head of it as well!
@@chrismarks4277 Whoosh!!!!!!
@@KingreX32 hehehe
I wonder if hemming his trousers is cardasian for extracting information
I believe Garak hated to show his cards to the crew but it did save his life.
Maybe, but he was also very good at knowing when to show his allies just how useful he could be.
He may not have _liked_ showing his cards, but he sure as hell saw the value in doing so.
@@scaper8 True, what good are cards if you're dead.
@@nategraham6946 In the business Garak employs, it is entirely likely he played the lowest hand he had as well. the tried and true "Don't play an Ace if a two will do".
@@RotaAbyssian I couldn't agree more. That is a very Garak mentality. But I'm sure even he would break out an Ace if his life was on the line.
@@nategraham6946 oh 100%. It doesn't matter how good a card is if you never play it, and you CAN'T play it if you're dead. That's why information that valuable has to be worth the investment, and it takes a lot of skill and wisdom (which Garak has) to recognize when it is necessary to avoid excessive force. Rule of Acquisition #3: Never pay more for an Acquisition than you have to.
If Garak and Q ever met, the universe would be DOOMED.
Garak would somehow convince Q to give him exactly what he wanted AND never realize it afterwards
@@aidancox5481 and Garak would be living rent free in Q's head forever.
@@aidancox5481 I just thought about this before this video. For all his power (or maybe because of it) Q was shit at manipulating people to do what he wanted. United with Garak on the other hand, those two would be unstoppable.
Were they ever seen in the same scene together? If not, they were the same being.
Q and Garak meeting, alternate timeline, colorized: ua-cam.com/video/0YtlHURJkWY/v-deo.html
I love how Garak's whole demeanor changes in that instant. You can totally see the officer he once was.
I was going to say that I felt bad for the actor who got all that Kobheerian make up put on for the few seconds that they used him for, but it turns out that it was just stock footage from a previous episode.
Which one?
@@Poop-nu1so "Duet"
Still, he had to do it for Duet, I don't think he appears again at any point, excluding that once scene in the opening of Duet.
Well then, I hope they paid him twice for his double trouble!
3:04-3:07 Odo makes a mental note to search the station for a dead Cardassian.
Airlock....airlock...
well if it was in the airlock for a brief bit...it probably not there no mo.
Still I suppose they could check for skin remains or something...
Starfleet Engineer: That might explain why I detected unauthorized access to one of the outer airlocks last week. I thought it was a glitch.....oops.
Don't be daft............................... Garak would have the body stashed on board the Defiant, somewhere. Likely in a storage compartment in one of the shuttles.
Worf: Hmm, this Rokeg Blood Pie tastes... Unconventional. I like it! What'd you add to this?
mahdogzbite "Wow... that clearance code has the word BLACK in it... must be very serious." You have obviously never seen the clearance code that calls for ballerina pink.
lmao!!
***** Ah, Garak! How nice of you to stop by. I need my thermal underwear readjusted, I lost a bit of weight. Oh, did you hear the latest on Romulan operatives in Cardassia? Is 800 hours too early to stop by?
I still think the Federation should change their ships' color schemes to ballerina pink.
See, if they're laughing at you, they can't aim or think properly.
manictiger
And when you start kicking their asses all over the alpha quadrant you then have enemies that start to fear the color pink! Its Win-Win! XD
Babylon 5 did a nice lampshade of this once with the Captain having a clearance code "Obisidian", the XO "Griffin", and the Security Chief having the code "Peekaboo". When questioned, he says, "Would you have guessed it?"
These Snapchat filters are getting ridiculous.
I think the best part of this is Odo's face throughout. All I can hear is a constant string of "Ha!"s and harumphs.
That is literally 60% of Odo's character, the other 20% is Quark insults and 20% shape shifting
Poor Odo, of all the places in the universe he has to be stuck with Quark AND Garak.
I read that Rene initially ad libbed the “harumph”. When writers wrote it in he said “I’ll harumph when I want to harumph.”
Hm... Sisko only lets Garak try his approach because Odo indicates he thinks it'll work.
After all these years I just realized the security code Garak uses is not his own. I always assumed it was his own code that he had somehow hidden in the Obsidian Order’s files so that it wasnt disabled when Garak was exiled, but now that I think about it, it would make far more sense for Garak to have gleaned the code from another member of the Obsidian Order...possible from Enabrain Tain himself. It fits his MO better and also works as a potential blackmailing tool.
Nah you see Tain allowed garak to steal the code from him, but the code was means to get Garak to come back to Cardassia so the two men could get drunk on kanar.
You just know Garak probably has a small "emergency" stash of Cardassian codes. Each code are probably good for one use only.
Sorta like a "burner cell phone" in real life. Use it once then toss it.
when i watched this years ago it makes me think of his phrase all the stories are true especially the lies. my money is he stole every cardassian's codes he ever worked for worked under or tailored for on ds9 when it was terok nor so he would have plenty of escape options when encountering cardassians during exile
@@lordsathariel4384 Hard to say. Remember he could still move around the station during the "worker revolt" lockdown. That seemed to be on his own authority, not anyone else's. Although it could have been just because the sensors could detect he was Cardassian.
He was the "Head" of the Obsidian Order, same way Bashir would've eventually become "Head" of Section 31.
Sometimes, it pays to have a member of the Obsidian Order running your Tailor Shop.
How to Roll a Natural 20 on Your Bluff Roll.avi
Epic Rogue, lvl 22 in 3.5 :p
And than immediately roll a 1, trying to pass this as part of a tailor skillset
It's not a Bluff: he has Active codes.
Meaning he either had them stolen or far more likely, is still an active agent.
Mister Bearington would be proud.
No, he was definitely hacking and spying on the central command, or at least he still had some good contacts to pass him info
lol @ "it was just something I over heard while hemming someone's trousers"
chocol8milk You cannot discuss matters of security clearance your tailor’s shop anymore??
"overheard while hemming some trousers" - yeah, right. Whatever you say, Garak.
Odo’s reaction to that comment was priceless - no patience for garak lol
Amazing the things you can learn with a sewing needle between your teeth and a black thread between your knees.
He heard almost as much as a gardener in his last job. Quite an ear for gossip, that 'blue collar' Garak. You'd almost think he was an undercover spy or something.
You have to love the sheer panic on that Gul's face at 2:41 after Garak lowers the boom on him.
You would be surprised how much you can learn from hemming someone trousers :)
Nathanielle Crawford lol!! As Garak would say, "a wise precaution!"
Cardassians have photographic memories
Ah, I see you've been eating extra spicy food, Mr. Dukat.
Odo: (Uhoh, now he'll be more smug than ever with that big giant load of crap that he just shoveled)
Well done Garak.
SantomPh OH, I never said it wasn't true. It obviously was a real code, but the way the Garak delivered it, as if it were a totally normal day, is just too priceless.
That he was Obsidian Order was known from Day 1. That's why people tried to warn Dr. Bashir (a spy himself it turned out lol) away when he got friendly with Garak.
What tha....?? How are you using my name?? FerretJohn aka John Randall Banks
It's not every day one of Odo's catches manages to get off the hook with such style that Odo is the one left flopping on the dock.
You just know Garak probably has a small "emergency" stash of Cardassian codes. Each are probably good for one use only.
Especially the lies.
"You're not Koberians...!"
"Veeeery observant of you!"
"...it was something I learned while reading a book.."
"... it was something I overheard while hemming someone's trousers.."
XD
Odo doesn't have a shovel for all that horseshit Garak just dropped on the bridge. 2:59
Great comment Andy - i was wondering if anyone else caught the reaction of Odo in the background.. the folding of the arms and the head turn (like he just smelled a bad odor of pooo.. ) was the kind of subtleness that made the show so popular. :)
DS9, otherwise known as The Garak show.
Plain, simple, Garak.
He's only in like ~45 episodes, but this presence is felt throughout the series for sure
3:04 Odo's look, "don't have a shovel big enough for that load!"
Garak's balls are so big they are slowing down the Defiant and her oversized engines. Damn, I had forgotten how cool a badass he was.
Star Trek DS9 has some really cool background music
no1reallycaresabout2 Perhaps they could have garak play the "you're a dickhead song."
It's like Cardassia runs entirely on rumor.
and double speak/double bluffs. How can I get what I want out of you with the minimum personal effort?
well not as much as the romulans.
The question on everyone's mind is Garak still confined to quarters? If it were up to constable Odo I'm sure the answer would be a resounding yes.
given what he does in the rest of the episode I think not.
I love how Garak uses a Central Command code, not an Obsidian Order one.
How do we know it isn't an Obsidian Order code that is in all Central Command ships specifically for moments like this?
The order commanded everything.
considering the look of panic on the gul's face i would suggest it was an order code.
Being the son of the head of the Obsidian Order has its advantages
Geez spoiler warning
@@TheBOB235 if after 20 years you haven't watched its on u
@@matthewjones2095 lol that's fair, I have seen DS9 maybe 8 times to completion, I was mostly making a joke on the bluntness the statement
@@TheBOB235 It's just something he heard while hemming someone's trousers.
Garak is my favourite character in all of DS9!
Odo's reaction to Garak at the end of this scene absolutely makes it!
I love how he can turn from being charming to absolutely intimidating
Sisko should have said: If hemming trousers could help me learn that much of military secrets, I'd like to be a tailor, too!
The funny thing is that Garak is actually a really good tailor.
Sisko also deliberately gave away secrets to Garak while he was taking measurements, too.
@@jdotoz Garak forgot the waist, Sisko was losing weight
It just occurred to me for the first time, that watching Garak on screen over the past few decades would be a very different experience than having to be right next to him, I mean I don't think I could sleep knowing he was on the same ship...the dude is astonishingly effective at everything he does. He's like the Cardassian equivalent of Leonardo Da Vinci... he's a dangerous government agent with the level of that amount of brilliance
Garak has officially "made" DS9 for me....
Words cannot express how much I love this character. And I've only just started on the third season.
Garak's eyes are just spectacular, from about 2:20 on. Remember what Tain said in reference to him: "His eyes!" With a look like that, who cares about the code? I just wish he had referenced the Order instead of Central Command, but oh well.
That code was probably how the Order was referenced. I wish they had more characters like Garak, but I suppose that's asking too much!
Brilliant! I actually never thought of that - that's perfect! And yes, Garak was spectacular - totally unique to Star Trek, too, I think!
Tobias Walker We couldn't have too many, it'd ruin how unique it is? And that look is impressive. Even a weeping angel would be terrified, if you'll pardon the Doctor Who cross-reference.
Mary Knasinski Watch, he doesn't blink during the whole speech.
His eyes with that cunning, creepy smile and laugh, oh boy
"Oh it was just something i overheard while i was hemming someones trousers."
Oh Garak-kun you amazing little spymaster man you~~
Kun? Wtf is kun? His name is Garak.
Its a japanese honorific, "Kun" meaning man or boy, added for sillyness.
Garak-kun? If Garak isn't garnering a Garuk-dono, or at least a Garuk-sama.. I'm pretty sure he'd boot someone from an airlock. XD
Or, ya know, maybe some archaic honorific spouted by weeaboos doesn't apply to Cardassians.
facepalm
Garak Was really one of the most interesting characters on the show and one of my favorites. The actor was terrific. His dialog always had so much hidden humor and sarcasm
I see this scene and can't help thinking of that Red Dwarf episode where Lister and Cat stick googly eyes on their chins and pretend to be space aliens.
So they were pretending to be (eye)ballchinians?
"Very observant of you."
Set sarcasm banks to kill.
On DS9 it's interchangeable. In 'Improbable Cause' Bashir asks Garak to finish off the trousers he dropped off a week before. Later on after Garak's shop blows up he says "I'm afraid Doctor that you pants won't be ready today afterall.
You would think Gul Benil would be a little bit more suspicious when he sees what looks like Federation displays and an interior behind Garek. That security code Garek gave must have been pretty damn high level.
Obsidian Order codes probably. Pretty much higher than the Central Command.
Kutter_TTL One does not question the Obsidian order. Especially not an order from the Obsidian... order.
the code overrides his suspicions as the Order are known to operate with alien ships and disguises.
Covert operations would be common with any Obsidian order observation. He was no in position to question any part of it.
@@tamamalosi Oh no ! Not the comfy chair !
So love this particular scene. Garak utterly devastating Gul's authority by something he could as well have entirely fabricated in that moment's notice, for whatever the reason he knew what the code was...given his background I wouldn't be surprised if he knew the exact algorhytm used to generate these codes. Would definitely fit into his character.
Overheard clearance codes during hemming trousers. Mm-hmm.
"Oh it was just something I overheard while I was hemming someone's trousers." :P Great line and it works because of the delivery, Garak truly is one of Trek's best characters
Love Odo's reaction at the end there!
The voice of the Cardassian Computer was provided by Judi M. Durand. She also provided the Federation's Computer Voice in Elite Force 1 and Armada 1 & 2.
That guy is a serious actor - he has skills
Put enough points in bluff and you don't need combat skills.
I mean, having a code that identifies you as a big deal and puts anyone who defies you on a "to kidnap" list would make it easy to convince someone that you are speaking the truth. Or if you aren't, that they don't want to know what the truth is.
I liked Garak he was pretty interesting especially for someone who was once part of the obsidian order, also I like how at first no one really trusted him but by the time of the Dominion War started or leading up to it people on the station trusted him and he was friends with a few members on the command staff
This is right up there with “That’s a stupid question!’”
Keeping Up With the Koberians
Here's something I wonder: surely the Cardassians would occasionally revoke old codes and give out new ones. Tain and Garak as the two most powerful people in the organization in charge of having all the information undoubtedly set up the systems that would assign those codes. Did Garak trust Tain so little that when he was programming the system that automatically gives out new codes, he set it up so it would always update him? Or did Tain trust Garak so much that even though he knew that Garak still had access to new codes even after being exiled, Tain allowed him to keep getting new codes so he could save himself if he was in danger? I don't know which of those options is more heartbreaking.
Garak was always a weakness that Tain could not afford.
I think the Obsidian Order codes were hard-encoded into Cardassian circuitry.
Like Quark's contact in "the Wire" looking up Garak's implant...
Just looking up bioware... [alarm].
I'll bet the Obsidian Order never needed to cancel codes... they just [cancel] the individual who used them improperly...
@@varianschirmer9375 That seems a touch short-sighted. What if the codes somehow found their way into the hands of Cardassia's enemies? It would only have to happen once, and their entire security apparatus would be laid bare. That would be an unacceptable risk, especially for a regime as paranoid as that of the Cardassian Empire.
Far safer to create a more flexible system, where codes can be written off and replaced periodically. Or even allow the old codes to keep working, but be flagged as compromised behind the scenes, so that the Obsidian Order can track whoever's using the out-of-date code.
Garak. Every single episode he was involved in was brilliant. So innocent but absaloutly lethal, could plot his way round almost anything. DS9 is my fav star Trek and has an awesome cast. So many brilliant and creative episodes. I watch the boxset when there is nothing on tv.
2:00
Incoming badassery.
I love when Garak throws his weight around
How lucky that Garak chose that moment to snoop - I mean, stretch his legs. Any earlier he’d have been on his way back to his quarters. Any later and they’d have been in battle.
almost as though he was expecting something
@@eathr349 Astute observation! Considering it's Garak and he is steeped in the details of fleet procedures, and the dogmatism with which they are carried out - and the sycophantish fear the regular fleet would have for the Obsidian Order - this was just another day's work for a simple tailor.
@ Garak is best boy
I just want to see 1. the Cardassian Union think the screech rhinos have achieved sentience and hyperspace drives, 2. try to conquer the screech rhinos, 3. get their asses stoved in by what they believe to be screech rhinos, and 4. decide that the screech rhinos are just not worth bothering with
I love Odo's face when Garek says he overheard it when hemming trousers. There is more to love in this single scene than in most episodes of Voyager or TNG.
"You were doing your duty... donkey balls. End transmission!" Just a reference to the show "the expanse" which dealt with a very similar situation. It is a funny but of lore.
It's amazing how I sided with Garak against literally anyone else, even when the show's writers tried to make us dislike him. The only one exception is when they infected Garak with that xenophobia mindset, but I won't spoil what happened there.
There is no way anyone could not like Garak. I didn't trust him, but he was one of the best written characters. Well, that's my opinion anyway.
I always loved garak he was as devious as he was funny.
But he kicked ass!!!
There is just something intriguing and attractive about Garak. I sided with him and other Cardassians even thought they did horrible things. Its just in the way they carry themselves I find attractive.
I have always wanted to match wits against the hero of Setlick 3.
It's an older code sir, but it checks out...
Well, it's probably reasonable to assume double-oh-Garak would have some way to keep up to date on those codes every now and then. :v
@@patrickschulz2193 I think he was making a star wars pun
It's amazing how much that innocent tailor picked up while hemming...
Do you know that one time, entirely through no fault of his own, Garak overheard vital Federation intelligence regarding secret invasion plans of the Klingon Empire? To his credit, Garak told nobody. Oh, he may have casually mentioned it when bickering with his frenemy Gul Dukat one time but clearly they were both more interested in talking about how much they hate each other. I sometimes suspect Gul Dukat was secretly a tailor and they were jealous of each other's stitchery.
@@johnyoung2705 Now that's a story all in itself. 'Stitched Up' 'Best of Threads' 'The Needle is Mightier Than the Sword' 'You Reap What You Sew'.
@@paulmccloud9395 ha! Thanks, best laugh I’ve had in a while. 😁😄
it's something I overheard while hemming someones trousers - straight OG
2:59 I love Odo's reaction.
I love the look Odo gives at the trousers comment.
When the Obsidian Order was still feared.
Well played Garak !
Garak could have probably convinced him he was a 3000 tonne Screech Rhino.
Prior to Garaks bluff
"That's the deepest voiced Kobarian I've ever heard....better check em"
"bluff", you mean: security clearance
You've obviously never met an African-Kobarian.
2 of my favourite tropes in Star Trek are:
1 - Needing to make up some exotic alien species, so they combine some alien sounding word with a regular animal species
2 - Not understanding the metric system or scale
Jadzia saying "2000 tonne screech-rhino" is the perfect combination of those 2 tropes.
"It's not a regular rhino, it's a screech rhino, and it's 2000 tonnes, making it 10 times bigger than a blue whale"
3000 tons? Most be one hell of an animal.
+Rivella Light - And probably quite noisy too!
How does something that weighs 6 million lbs even exist?
Henchman Twenty1 Yes, I'm aware it's scifi. But a lot of Trek is based upon real science, so even in scifi logic how does a being that big exist..
Deadpool - Maybe it weighs so much because it's on a heavy gravity world? Also, does she mean metric tons or imperial tons?
3000 tons Imperial is 2721,5 tonnes Metric, not that much of a difference. She speaks of mass (tons/tonnes), not weight, therefor not taking the gravity of the world into account (unless its 1,0G). If it were a high gravity world, the weight would be even larger. More likely it's an error in the scripting or she misspoke.
That's one hell of a tailor!!😁👍
9218 BLACK - badass verification code or maybe just the way Garak says it with authority!
Notice how Garak doesn't blink while he's dressing down the Gul. Now THAT is the mark of a good actor. My eyes were watering with how long he held that stare while delivering those lines.
Odo's face right at the end is hilarious
This is a true testament of Andrew Robinson's performance, going from unassuming to total badass in two seconds flat, and goes right back to unassuming a mere seven seconds later.
Garak was the best hell a spin-off on him would be to much fun to watch
Thats when he still tried to pretend that he is only a tailor.
CLEARANCE VERIFICATION: 9-2-1-8-BLACK
Oh, because captain Sisco is..... I get it :)
Konstantin Steriy no. That's not it. Put it this way, what's a way to describe the color of obsidian?
terra claiborne
blac- ohhh... nice!
Epic Garak, once again! Outstanding!
He was hemming trousers during a Central Command black ops meeting ?
he is obviously lying to Sisko, but sometimes people talk on the phone in places like barbershops and tailors, and he was listening.
Everyone involved needed plausible deniability, no matter how thin.
This small part is better than any episodes of discovery
Sigh.....Gul Baneal is a good soldier.
*Benil.
When Garak is the one who lets out a breath 2:54 you know it was a close one.
Lucky thing the Order never changed that verification code after Garrak left
Knowing Garak, someone probably gave him an updated code just in case
Probably some kind of constantly changing rolling code based off a private key impregnated in his brain. Real life devices like this do exist to log into security sensitive sites.
I don't think it was his personal code, storing agents data on every ship would be unbelievable security risk. More like it's something that, when put into warship's computer, returns "DO NOT DISTURB. DELETE LOGS OF CONTACT. SPEAK ABOUT IT TO NO ONE."
Odo look at the end is priceless and perfectly in character
Odos face when garak says that at the end lolol
The best part is his compulsive, reflexive need to lie at the end to create the slightest fig leaf of doubt. "Overheard while hemming trousers.". Please.