The shot/not vaccine notoriously causes inflammation of the heart but only gained traction because of the issues when it was being forced on kids. You even mention the inflammation here so what is your issue?
I'm 3 weeks out from show. Got Pfizer vaccine while on clen, t3 tren and test. I do more cardio than 90% of bodybuilders (70k a week incline with running at 12km and walking). I had absolutely no negative effects. I don't deny for a second that it causes inflammation but studies show thats mainly young guys not these guys in later age. The main problems associated with heart failure and bodybuilding are to do with high blood pressure (destroys kidneys also) and out of range cholesterol. Without biannual Echocardiograms and calcium scoring tests bodybuilders can be walking around ready to die.
People throwing COVID and vaccinations into this discussion without even confirming if the any of those athletes were fully or even partially vaccinated??
I had to donate blood once a month, (1 bag) and that was 3 months after being on 200mg of testosterone every 10 days, my red blood cell count was high, and blood thickness was 18, doc said should be 13-15, I can’t imagine how often bodybuilders gotta go or how thick there blood is using grams of stuff,
I was on TRT for a year, Around 90mg/week. I was eating clean and was working out 4 times per week. I took a blood test and my cholestrol and LDL was up while my hdl which should be up was down. My hematocrit was also high.
@@okiv99I was on estrogen blocker for the first 6 months, took half a pill every other week (size of your pinky nail) but then after 6 months doc took me off the ai, didn’t need it because it was making my estrogen too low
What about the fact that most top boys, eat massive amounts of food. The human body was not made this way, that, and the drug cocktail makes it all more damaging. I know, I live this lifestyle, 56 and still kicking, for now!
Glad you’re still kicking JJ. I recommend walking exercise for heart health and strength and of course always eating healthy something that the still now and still great Robbie Robinson insist. Also let’s not forget the late Nasser El Sonbaty, remember he also like these guys were about the exact same age at the the time of death. Nasser was still pretty big at the time. I feel the same way with you along with I think the majority feels the same way that all this added stuff really puts a lot of load and stress on the the organs of the body including the heart. If you recall Nasser does say in at least one of his videos stating how you have to drink lots of water to help protect the kidneys but he STILL got organ failure. Also both Rhoden and Nasser continued their hugeness in their competition into their 40’s . Dexter Jackson on the other hand has survived so far and he is into his 50’s I say because he was very big on staying as lean as possible in the off season unlike Shawn and Nasser who always jack up the calories real high and put on tons of fat and weight.
Been a huge fan of Steroid enhanced Bodybuilding all my life but with these Deaths coming at such a high rate, it’s time to end this madness…. IFBB needs to protect their athletes now
15 minutes in and this dr. already has shown to be very middle of the road. He is not all for or all against anything. This type of person is so very rare in todays nighened political climate. Well done.
It’s a very understanding virus ,, it’s willing to wait until after the holidays to really be dangerous, so we can have a nice Xmas,before employers must fire their unvaxed employees; it’s only dangerous when politicians are On camera,once off camera it’s on longer dangerous. Amazing. Plus, am I wrong in thinking vax can’t protect from a virus? Thought I learned that awhile ago before the “actual science” changed. Good thing we are still in an official “pandemic” that’ way our government can enact these freedom killing measures , to keep us safe, of course. No nwo here
It's wild speculation based on zero data but will never know for sure. All of the covid testing was on normal people. Researchers didn't spend time testing the impact of the vaccine on illegal steroids.
Your audience just got a taste of a Doc, judge and bodybuilder. Enlightening for sure. I know all this it's why I reached 56 and on TRT, BP meds and statins for the past 8 years. Watch Seth Feroce he will truly enlighten you. This shit ain't no joke.
Guys, it’s the gear. That's the number one issue, and, basically, that's what the doc is saying here. Even boring old testosterone, at cycle doses, will raise hematocrit, screw with cholesterol and raise blood pressure. Add the extra stress on the heart from increased body size. The ifbb needs to demand medical checks for active pros, and ideally find some way to control (but not ban) the drug use. If not, more deaths could kill the sport. We only get one set organs. Eventually steroid cycles and massive body size will wear organs out. Notably Trenbolone will hurt kidneys and kidneys can’t heal once there’s damage. All that said, it's also worth noting that (1) Shawn Rhoden didn't seem to be all that careful with diet, and (2) people are saying he was under a ton of stress because of his legal problems and the lack of support from the ifbb.
@@M.S.Fitness Wait until you're 50 or 60. You WILL want to still be alive and healthy at 70 - unless you're an idiot. And you WILL stop giving a shit about how big and strong you were when you were 25 or 35 or 40. If you've had any kind of life, you'll just care about your family and being with them as long as you can be.
This freaking guy .. for awesome information he's all like along the lines of doctor key. Not only do they know how to treat and or prescribe people in the fitness community or athletes in general using steroids. They also have done it so they have academic knowledge and trial and error from living the lifestyle personally. The quote" you talk the talk but can you walk the walk." The answer is yes for these guys. It's equivalent for me myself going to counseling for PTSD traumatic brain injury survivor's guilt. I didn't really want to open up and get treated with anybody because I felt they didn't understand until I got a counselor he's a Vietnam veteran and he's also was in the infantry. Sogoing to him and actually being 100% honest and open with him. I knew that he could relate and there would be no judgement. Almost on the same lines here. Because if I go to a doctor to get treatedfour negative side effects or just to get monitor while using steroids. A doctor like dr. T and the doctor Prisk would be the first people I go to. Plus I mean if he can work on Seth Feroce , from the hwmf podcast Axe and sledge supplements. I have bbpro. Well I sure would trust him treating and monitoring myself while using peds, enough of them for Awesome content Ron! Keep them coming. I don't know if you hear it enough but it's much appreciated. Thank you
16:50 If bodybuilding is based in subjectivity, the judges should consider making provisions in the criteria in order to prioritize the health of the athletes. I mean for crying out loud, some of the IFBB judges are medical Dr.’s. Doctors are the living embodiment of maintaining the highest level of ethical conduct in our society. Here’s an unpopular opinion; Maybe its time to address some of the unethical decisions in this sport. Otherwise, the future of bodybuilding as we know it could be in jeopardy.
Censor legitimate comments? I had polycythemia in 2012 when my Dr. Put me on testim. I was on my honeymoon in Vegas and he called me to tell me from the blood work I had before I left, to immediately stop and go find a place to give blood.
@@RonHarrisMuscle thank you. I was adding my polycythemia to it and it was gone. I restarted the video and my previous comment was gone after I posted it so I had to rewrite and post them again.
@@dalewilson9602 we all know that the fitness industry is going down, especially with the pandemic, so sadly new cheaper untested products and gear are on the market that are promoted as special secret to the athletes.
@@dalewilson9602 cause bodybuilders have compromised systems. If they had complications because of this after taking the vaccine it would be far worse from natural infection...
Private MD labs schedule your own blood test have an email it to you if you don't have to worry about the decision super judgy any monkey can read a blood test they mark them eyes and loves you're the ultimate person decides how much you take or how much you don't take blood test or we'll deal with that.
Bodybuilders are a bit like crazy drivers pushing their car to the limits forgetting they don't have a Ferrari car and then the car broke down ...Unfortunately bodybuilders are pushing their bodies to the limits and they are very well aware of the consequences...It should be about sport and health not chemicals products .Covid doesn't help but I don't think its the main issue here...Stop blaming covid for the death and stop putting "shit "into your bodies. Be responsible and act like adults and not like kids....
Common sense leave the drugs alone. .. peoples seems to use more than they body can take they taken changes to rush they sizes to be better in competition. like rich piano.. its like drugs you got to have it been natural with know supplements is the key to just look Normal healthy by been built... there will be more deaf to come. Thats the reason not to many words needed in figure out the yssss..
The shot/not vaccine notoriously causes inflammation of the heart but only gained traction because of the issues when it was being forced on kids. You even mention the inflammation here so what is your issue?
I'm 3 weeks out from show. Got Pfizer vaccine while on clen, t3 tren and test. I do more cardio than 90% of bodybuilders (70k a week incline with running at 12km and walking). I had absolutely no negative effects. I don't deny for a second that it causes inflammation but studies show thats mainly young guys not these guys in later age. The main problems associated with heart failure and bodybuilding are to do with high blood pressure (destroys kidneys also) and out of range cholesterol. Without biannual Echocardiograms and calcium scoring tests bodybuilders can be walking around ready to die.
Man good for you you did the vaccine you are really health conscious, just tren Clen t3 test etc, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣,
@@nikosrosos5180 no I'm the opposite so I took vaccine of I was healthy I wouldn't have touched it 🤣
Very much appreciate this interview. No political agendas, no disinformation, just science, common sense and experience.
That was the intent. This is happening way too much this year and we really wanted to have the conversation witihout a political agenda.
This is a real eye-opener for all athletes in any sport, wheter being amateur or pro, recreational or high level. Thanks!
Only in bodybuilding this kind of stuff happens bc they take more drugs than in any other sports
People throwing COVID and vaccinations into this discussion without even confirming if the any of those athletes were fully or even partially vaccinated??
I had to donate blood once a month, (1 bag) and that was 3 months after being on 200mg of testosterone every 10 days, my red blood cell count was high, and blood thickness was 18, doc said should be 13-15, I can’t imagine how often bodybuilders gotta go or how thick there blood is using grams of stuff,
I was on TRT for a year, Around 90mg/week. I was eating clean and was working out 4 times per week. I took a blood test and my cholestrol and LDL was up while my hdl which should be up was down. My hematocrit was also high.
@@glasslakes just get off it
@@ZeeOwen it's been close to a year that I've stopped.
Where you taking an ai to reduce estrogen?
@@okiv99I was on estrogen blocker for the first 6 months, took half a pill every other week (size of your pinky nail) but then after 6 months doc took me off the ai, didn’t need it because it was making my estrogen too low
Thanks Ron for speaking about that with a Real doctor not some bullshit guru..you are the best
What about the fact that most top boys, eat massive amounts of food. The human body was not made this way, that, and the drug cocktail makes it all more damaging. I know, I live this lifestyle, 56 and still kicking, for now!
Exactly 💯
No no no VACCINE ! ;)
Glad you’re still kicking JJ. I recommend walking exercise for heart health and strength and of course always eating healthy something that the still now and still great Robbie Robinson insist. Also let’s not forget the late Nasser El Sonbaty, remember he also like these guys were about the exact same age at the the time of death. Nasser was still pretty big at the time. I feel the same way with you along with I think the majority feels the same way that all this added stuff really puts a lot of load and stress on the the organs of the body including the heart. If you recall Nasser does say in at least one of his videos stating how you have to drink lots of water to help protect the kidneys but he STILL got organ failure. Also both Rhoden and Nasser continued their hugeness in their competition into their 40’s . Dexter Jackson on the other hand has survived so far and he is into his 50’s I say because he was very big on staying as lean as possible in the off season unlike Shawn and Nasser who always jack up the calories real high and put on tons of fat and weight.
he did adress that
Been a huge fan of Steroid enhanced Bodybuilding all my life but with these Deaths coming at such a high rate, it’s time to end this madness…. IFBB needs to protect their athletes now
15 minutes in and this dr. already has shown to be very middle of the road. He is not all for or all against anything. This type of person is so very rare in todays nighened political climate. Well done.
Thanks for this informative live Ron.. our community desperately needs to hear this. God bless 🙏🏽❤️
Obviously the vacc literally the only thing different this year.
@@karoshiman scamdemic
@@karoshiman plandemic
@@karoshiman they can keep claiming pandemic but we are past that, we are at the endemic stage.
@@karoshiman Lmfao
It’s a very understanding virus ,, it’s willing to wait until after the holidays to really be dangerous, so we can have a nice Xmas,before employers must fire their unvaxed employees; it’s only dangerous when politicians are On camera,once off camera it’s on longer dangerous. Amazing. Plus, am I wrong in thinking vax can’t protect from a virus? Thought I learned that awhile ago before the “actual science” changed. Good thing we are still in an official “pandemic” that’ way our government can enact these freedom killing measures , to keep us safe, of course. No nwo here
Outstanding video Ron and great questions. I like the no bullshit honesty.
COVID to blame? Gimme a break
Why have so many bodybuilders died in past year and half then
It's wild speculation based on zero data but will never know for sure. All of the covid testing was on normal people. Researchers didn't spend time testing the impact of the vaccine on illegal steroids.
They're not blaming covid. It's a mix of the vaccine with high doses of juice. It's a deadly cocktail.
Israel just identified 5 covid protein that damages the blood vessel. They did not disclose whether vaccines have any of these 5 proteins.
No vaccine and I have covid right now. Pretty mild and weak symptoms. Body achs yesterday and this morning have been the worst part of it
Nice
Your audience just got a taste of a Doc, judge and bodybuilder. Enlightening for sure. I know all this it's why I reached 56 and on TRT, BP meds and statins for the past 8 years. Watch Seth Feroce he will truly enlighten you. This shit ain't no joke.
Thank u for a great video
Train natural with light to medium weight so there is minimal pressure on the heart. You will go a long way
15% Bill Gates
Guys, it’s the gear. That's the number one issue, and, basically, that's what the doc is saying here. Even boring old testosterone, at cycle doses, will raise hematocrit, screw with cholesterol and raise blood pressure. Add the extra stress on the heart from increased body size.
The ifbb needs to demand medical checks for active pros, and ideally find some way to control (but not ban) the drug use. If not, more deaths could kill the sport.
We only get one set organs. Eventually steroid cycles and massive body size will wear organs out. Notably Trenbolone will hurt kidneys and kidneys can’t heal once there’s damage.
All that said, it's also worth noting that (1) Shawn Rhoden didn't seem to be all that careful with diet, and (2) people are saying he was under a ton of stress because of his legal problems and the lack of support from the ifbb.
But what is it to YOU what others do? Not everybody wants to be here until they're 70 years old.
@@M.S.Fitness Wait until you're 50 or 60. You WILL want to still be alive and healthy at 70 - unless you're an idiot. And you WILL stop giving a shit about how big and strong you were when you were 25 or 35 or 40. If you've had any kind of life, you'll just care about your family and being with them as long as you can be.
One of the best interviews done by MD.
Thus makes so much sense.
Best content on the subject Ive seen recently
This freaking guy .. for awesome information he's all like along the lines of doctor key. Not only do they know how to treat and or prescribe people in the fitness community or athletes in general using steroids. They also have done it so they have academic knowledge and trial and error from living the lifestyle personally. The quote" you talk the talk but can you walk the walk." The answer is yes for these guys. It's equivalent for me myself going to counseling for PTSD traumatic brain injury survivor's guilt. I didn't really want to open up and get treated with anybody because I felt they didn't understand until I got a counselor he's a Vietnam veteran and he's also was in the infantry. Sogoing to him and actually being 100% honest and open with him. I knew that he could relate and there would be no judgement. Almost on the same lines here. Because if I go to a doctor to get treatedfour negative side effects or just to get monitor while using steroids. A doctor like dr. T and the doctor Prisk would be the first people I go to. Plus I mean if he can work on Seth Feroce , from the hwmf podcast Axe and sledge supplements. I have bbpro. Well I sure would trust him treating and monitoring myself while using peds, enough of them for
Awesome content Ron! Keep them coming. I don't know if you hear it enough but it's much appreciated. Thank you
That vaccine and juicing, perfect cocktail
As much as I’d love to blame the vaccine, most bodybuilders are conservative and probably didn’t even get the vaccine
None of them got a vaccine. Smooth brain they already confirmed that 100% for rhoden.
@@BountyRogueCinemax confirmed for everyone dying?
@@BountyRogueCinemax source: trust me bro
vaxx yes juice no. choose life.
16:50 If bodybuilding is based in subjectivity, the judges should consider making provisions in the criteria in order to prioritize the health of the athletes. I mean for crying out loud, some of the IFBB judges are medical Dr.’s. Doctors are the living embodiment of maintaining the highest level of ethical conduct in our society. Here’s an unpopular opinion; Maybe its time to address some of the unethical decisions in this sport. Otherwise, the future of bodybuilding as we know it could be in jeopardy.
Yes!!! Please say it again and again and AGAIN till SOMEBODY get it for crying out loud!!
Thank you 🙏🏻 good information
All things being perfect💯. Ketchup for blood .
This is a very well done interview and great information for those in and outside the fitness industry. 💯
YOUR A GOOD DOCTOR.
Where's the Anabolic Doc?
Because of the vaccine
This dude is legit!
Censor legitimate comments? I had polycythemia in 2012 when my Dr. Put me on testim. I was on my honeymoon in Vegas and he called me to tell me from the blood work I had before I left, to immediately stop and go find a place to give blood.
Your comments have not been altered as far as I know -
@@RonHarrisMuscle thank you. I was adding my polycythemia to it and it was gone. I restarted the video and my previous comment was gone after I posted it so I had to rewrite and post them again.
Does androsterone replacement for medical reasons cause the same side effects as test and other steroids/exogenous hormones?
Good stuff
Life.💯
It's the fitness industry, not the vaccine.
So why so many deaths this year in bodybuilding? If it was just the " fitness industry then why not so many deaths last year?
@@dalewilson9602 we all know that the fitness industry is going down, especially with the pandemic, so sadly new cheaper untested products and gear are on the market that are promoted as special secret to the athletes.
It’s the combination, the idea the vaccine is 100% safe is ludicrous
@@Heavenfound lol. Nothing to do with that it's 100% the satanic juice vaccine
@@dalewilson9602 cause bodybuilders have compromised systems. If they had complications because of this after taking the vaccine it would be far worse from natural infection...
Private MD labs schedule your own blood test have an email it to you if you don't have to worry about the decision super judgy any monkey can read a blood test they mark them eyes and loves you're the ultimate person decides how much you take or how much you don't take blood test or we'll deal with that.
Bodybuilders are a bit like crazy drivers pushing their car to the limits forgetting they don't have a Ferrari car and then the car broke down ...Unfortunately bodybuilders are pushing their bodies to the limits and they are very well aware of the consequences...It should be about sport and health not chemicals products .Covid doesn't help but I don't think its the main issue here...Stop blaming covid for the death and stop putting "shit "into your bodies. Be responsible and act like adults and not like kids....
To much drugs....
How about RICH PIANA you forgot it is only six years since he pass for so many of us still fresh
It must be hard for this doctor, sitting on the fence.
Waffling is a great art hey
Why dont you make a episode about Supplements ever Bodybuilder should be taking to stay Healthy
Common sense leave the drugs alone. .. peoples seems to use more than they body can take they taken changes to rush they sizes to be better in competition. like rich piano.. its like drugs you got to have it been natural with know supplements is the key to just look Normal healthy by been built... there will be more deaf to come. Thats the reason not to many words needed in figure out the yssss..
Screw juice. Getting off. It just isn't worth all this bullshit. Of course barely ANY of you will change after seeing this. It's a damn shame.
Where are the pro-steroids "experts" now? They are always ranting and insulting in reddit and quora.
We ALL THE ANSWER. Cmom stop wasting people's time
Too much gear, too much time, too much size. all these are fatal
That this guy can't even get started says it all. It's natty or nothing, kids. Put down the needle.
drugs, what else can it be 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
ALL I SAY POPULATION CONTROL THAT IS ALL I SAY ABOUT YOU KNOW WHAT..
You do realize human capital is a countries most important asset right?
Covid and or vaccines
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A
Clot shot 💉