Hi Bert, have you ever tried the Denon AHD 9200? I am curious how they stack against the Sony MDR Z1R. Another pair comparison Im curious about would be the Beyerdynamic T5P 2nd Gen vs Sony MDR Z7M2. I currently only own a T5P 2nd Gen
I haven’t heard the 9200 yet but am curious, and I hope to eventually own a T5P second gen; I’ve heard it and I like it. I will be doing a closed-back comparison video next, where I’ll have several high end headphones to demo, so you can hear how they sound against each other. Some older closed backs will be included in the test too, because some of them just sound so darn good.
Thanks very much! I’m a bit of an oddball in the headphone community because I own so many, and I can appreciate each for what they offer. Of the ones I own, I love the ZMF Eikon, Z1R as an comfortable all-rounder when I just want to relax after work, TH900 when I want the best bass, AH-D7000 when I want the Denon flavor without the TH900’s treble zing, and the amazing Sennheiser HD 250 (Mark I and II) which still competes with today’s headphones and does all music genres well. For video editing (not really for listening) I like the Sony 7506.
@@bertreviews I guess thats the reason why audio enthusiasts have so many headphones. Its hard to have 1 favorite. I mean, I only have the T5p 2nd gen for the upscale closed headphone. Im not sure where my go-to would compare to the average audiophile but I currently use my AKG Q701 to listen to headphone comparisons since I feel like they are the flatest sounding headphone. Im gonna give the HD250s a try if you consider them all arounders. I only wanted the Denon AHD 9200 since I liked the idea of the headphone being handcrafted in Japan. It gives off this exotic feel, just like the Beyers from Germany and my AKGs from Austria. But I guess the part that should always be a priority is the sound. Comfort I can compromise due to being used to my Grado RS2i for so long. The foam pads kill my ears. Haha
Dear Bert. I wish you all the best and hope to see you back with more review soon. You and your friends are proof that humorous presentation and serious content can be combined in a most elegant way 😃 Greetings from Denmark
After the Sennheiser I was expecting the much older Sony to sound worse but they sound pretty close. With that brief sample I would choose the Sony. Excellent video.
Not sure why but the 6XX sounded so right. Also that ending wow lol. I did enjoy it though! Realistic POV, ASMR-feel, goofy antics, etc. What's not to like!! :D
That's because it does lol, I'm wearing my 6XX listening to all these sound demos. Take the upper mids on the 6XX down a few dB and that is the exact midrange and treble target I look for in all headphones
Agree 100% if only it had killer extension and oomph down low :'( (and HD 800 stage/imaging and HD 800 ergonomics and HD 800 resolution and... well there is no perfect headphone the HD 800 has low bass quantity and a treble peak they're all compromises but one can dream)
@@woopygoman yeah I still don't understand why the HD 800 didn't follow the 600/650's signature, considering the immense resources Sennheiser has and their previous experiments that led to them discovering something "like" Harman way before it was a thing. You can also now see why I upgraded to the LCD-2C, which improves on the bass extension of 650 and soundstage but with the same (well, actually even moreso) subdued and relaxed treble.
It does a very good job for guitars and vocals. Not so great at everything else. Even it's Soundstage is poor for an open back. It has a closed back like stage.
WOW, your the best and fun reviewer I have watched and that's saying a lot since I follow over 70 reviewers. Great job on the channel, keep it up and looking forward to more from you Bert.
Ok i just discovered this Channel i am on Headphones like u many years , And i have to say man... Life its like that some times exceptional work doesnt pay back . U have to be number one Reviewer for many reasons ... for example amazing video edit , u talk so clear and easy to understand, u have knowledge about this hoby , its only about headphones, its fun but serius fun without bad words, its the perfect channel for my kids to get in that hoby , and many many other ... The latest video its 1 year old so i guess u stop making these , but maybe u have to re think that ... Some times its better to get appreciated from a small group of good quality people i am sure your followers are that kind . Even that thanks for these amazing videos when i go home i will show them to my child.
Really like you're review Bert...this one no exception. And that Metal571 'intro' LOL... the outro though nearly killed me... LOL Notice Santa wasn't playing with the more fragile E-MU...smart man! LOL If you ever are looking for a specific headphone to review I'm sure quite a few of us viewers would not mind lending them if you let us know. Keep up the great work you do... in all honesty you are my favorite headphone reviewer. Oh, my favorite in the comparison would be the E-MU's... (I'm biodyna biased for dynamics) second favorite is the HD6XX's. FYI, was listening on my Porta Pro Xs with Yaxi pads, because that's what I use on my tablet. Will fire up my proper system and listen to again it for real later.
Thanks, I appreciate it! You read my mind EXACTLY about the E-MUs, that's why Santa didn't use them, LOL! Sure, maybe at some point I will set up a P.O. Box, good idea :)
Man, I LOVE me some headphone sound/comparison demo videos. Especially on a rig as well tuned as yours. Pure deliciousness in my ears. 🤪🤪🤪. MDRZ7M2 and the E-MU Teaks were my favs(I own the 6XX's already so no need to include them).
The Z7M2s are my choice, I love dark sound and deep bass. Some may say there're some mids missing, but I don't hear that. I think they are great for those who love to be on the dark side:-) Good reviews, btw, all of them and interesting approach. You're watched from Russia, hello from here :-). And I recently bought the Z7M2s, before watching your videos on them. You only confirmed I made the right choice. Thanks. Those comparisons are very useful.
LOL thanks for the shout. The really weird thing is I thought about making an intro just like that with a simple metal guitar riff for a couple seconds at the beginning of each video, but never got around to it. Keep up the good work - this channel clearly is the result of watching every major reviewer out there and trying to improve on every single aspect of all of them, which is what I did when I started, but YT audio reviews have, thankfully, come a long way since then. Have an awesome day. PS the R10 has some of the sweetest sounding treble on any headphone ever. I had the pleasure of demoing one once
Wow thanks so much, that truly means a lot coming from you. I’ll keep watching your great videos, and I encourage everyone in the hobby to do so! Glad you liked the guitar riff 🙂 I totally agree about the R10; best midrange of all time, truly lifelike!
@@bertreviews if you ever want to bounce an idea off me or want any advice at all just tweet me on Twitter. I see you've been in the hobby for much longer than most of the guys on YT right now though which is a big plus to have that perspective. I've been looking for no copyright tracks to play on an EARS eventually so was looking for your contact info and Patreon but didn't find any lol
Thanks man, that is really nice of you! Hm, maybe I should get on Patreon? I’ve been using the UA-cam audio library which isn’t bad, and a YT channel called “NoCopyrightSounds” - although they mostly seem to have EDM tracks. You may also want to check out this: m.ua-cam.com/video/OJVSHjKIMOs/v-deo.html
Thank you! I am trying. It is actually an insane amount of work and I am alone doing it, I wish I had help! But I will not stop, I will have videos out as fast as I can! Thank you for your support!!
I bought the E-MU teak, but on this sound demo I liked the Sony MDR-CD1700 way more. Let's hope I don't get disappointed when I her the E-MU teak live.
fun comparison. The Z7m2 is the most pleasant sounding for sure, it's just the richer, more detailed sound. and it better be for that price. the sennheiser is just way too flat for taste but rich in details. the emu is a less richer version of the HD6xx. The other sony just lacks in details, and the Tazcam shouldn't even be in this discussion lol
The Teak sound demo is a bit weird. It seems it's not the stock pads that were installed on this one in the video. But some kind of Lawton pads. Sounds a bit brighter than with stock pads. I own a pair of CD1700 and they sound as good as what can be heard in this video. Very balanced, a bit bass-light, slighty warm (warmer than most vintage Sony headphones). Impressive for 1996.
oh wow now it makes me wonder how it originally sounds with the stock pads, since i found the bass too inadequate at the amount of highs that goes with and skipped purchasing the teak after watching this demo, thinking that the high will limit me from increasing volume to hear bass amount i like.
Sony has put a lot of tech into their recent headphones which I find interesting. To my ears, the bass is very big but a little boomy (you can hear that in this video), and the treble can be a little hot. Soundstage is not bad but imaging is a little vague. A little over priced at this time for the sound quality, but the fit and finish, build, comfort & ergonomics are outstanding. I'm not sure they will be an everyday "go-to" headphone for most, but they do well with certain genres. I suspect they will get mixed reviews, some will like them, others not as much. I always say though, that ultimately, sound preference is a personal choice so for those who love them, that's great. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your support! The tube amp is the Woo Audio 2. It’s a great OTL amplifier for use with high impedance headphones (anything above 100 ohms) and has a true “tube” sound. Matches perfectly with the Sennheiser HD 600/650/800. Upgraded several of the tubes from stock, including Tung Sol 5998 power tubes. I will do a review of it one day.
Great high quality channel. I noticed that none of the headphones sounded overly bright, sibilant or harsh. Yet people say some of them are. Is it because of the recording gear? The music you used? I would like to hear them play acoustic music. Not just that electronic dance stuff. P.s. i intended to write this on the review with fostex th900, beyerdynamic t1...
Thanks for your comment! One thing I am noticing is that different people like different sounding headphones, as the feedback I'm getting has been very varied. It's also possible that people have different levels of tolerance for sibilance for example. Some really don't like it, while others comment that they don't mind it at all. There are many possible reasons for this. I think the recording gear in my tests is good, the binaural mic is very high end and to me, represents the sound accurately. Of course what is heard on UA-cam is also affected by the listening equipment (headphones especially) being used by the listener watching the video. Thanks for your suggestion to use different types of music, I will try to find a royalty-free acoustic track, and will possibly make an acoustic version of the testing videos, especially if there is a lot of demand for it. Many thanks!
I'm not an expert, but I'd say that if you're really into bass, then the MDR-Z7M2 is for you. Otherwise, I'd say that the Sennheiser is more balanced overall. The E-MU Teak... I don't know, it just sounds dull to me. Personally, I'd pick the Sennheiser any day. P.S. I've been listening to this test with the Koss Porta Pro :P
The TH-02 are Studio Monitor headphones, which are just for mixing music as opposed to listening to it. The responses are flat so as to get a congruent mix across devices. That's why they have an "interesting" sound. For mixing only.
Yes of course, but what I meant was - they sound cheap. But that was on purpose, I included cheap headphones so that people could hear the difference. I did the same in the first listening test video as well. You bring up a fascinating point though. Interestingly, plenty of people use and have used monitor headphones for music listening. Some people just like a flatter response. For example many reviewers have discussed the ATH-M50x & ATH-M40 here on UA-cam strictly from a listening perspective. I remember this being true as far back as the 80s. For example, back then, the Sony MDR CD-6 technically a small monitor on-ear headphone, was (and still is) sought after by Sony collectors for its sound. Thanks so much for your comment.
@@bertreviews I appreciate your reply. It's nice to see someone who knows what they are talking about. I watched a video once where the guy was reviewing a lavalier mic and thought "Lavalier" was the company producing said mic so I guess I've been quick to respond since then lol. Have a great weekend!
Thanks for the offer Theo, they mean too much to me, had them since the 90s! But they show up on eBay - not often - BUT I see maybe 2 - 3 pairs/year for sale. Set up an alert on your eBay app, you’ll get them eventually!
And also star wars fans might love your review... Hoping to see your Yoda character... And may it bring you new and more subscribers! May the force be with you! 👍
the tascam DEFINITELY do sound like they are 15 bucks.. personally i dunno if its worth buying though... its way too tinny and flat.. little bass extension and the trebel feels a bit too flat.. basically id recommend saving up more money for something else like a koss portapro or cheaper studio monitors like the 7506 or AKG line but then again none of them really passed my warmth test on the bass or vibrancy... even though my main use headphones are similar sennheiser 56x (aka 660s)
Thanks for your thoughts on these. I agree, the Tascams are extreme low end. They could maybe work as a child’s headphone, as kids aren’t usually interested in fidelity and the Tascams are reasonably durable - but even if they break, well, it’s only 15 bucks. I included the Tascam just a an extreme point of comparison for the other headphones. Appreciate and enjoy reading your comments!
how is it that nobody seems to have issues with the hd 600+ series having no sub bass since they all roll off drastically below 100 hertz? i know they are ez for long duration listening but still, does it qualify as reference grade if it doesnt do sub-bass? or is it because with the sub bass done well u have to redo the mids and high all over again now that sub bass is added to the tuning and is it that somethings got to give or it will be a muddy mess if we have excellence in all 3 departments of low mid high? also, im no headphone expert but the mdr-cd1700 seems to be born in a time that emphasized crazy highs over lows but happen to be that near perfect tuning model that does all 3 areas of lows mids highs really well, but if u listen critically it doesnt really do bass well enough or that the wonderful forward vocals and highs are concealing the bass quite a bit from being a nice and adequate enough bass. having said this, i still think the mdr-cd1700 is better than hd650 :O, beating the supposed best all rounder headphone? wish i could get a new pair of them. also what if the sony mdr-r10 made a comeback? lol
These are really very excellent points, thanks for your comment. I’ve been in the hobby since the early 90s, and it’s only in the last 10 years or so that sub-bass has really become an essential, even expected component of higher end headphones. It’s not that people didn’t like sub-bass before that, because they did (I had a massive subwoofer in my ‘92 Honda Civic. Aw yeah!). It’s just that people didn’t expect great sub-bass from headphones. Speakers, yes, but not from headphones. I’m not sure if it was a technological limitation of earlier headphones or the fact that high end headphone listeners back then didn’t really listen to music with heavy bass, but nobody really expected headphones to be akin to speakers in the bass department. For example, if you look at advertisements for high end headphones from the 90s, they talk a lot about listening to classical music! (Which doesn’t need sub-bass). You’d never see advertisements like that today. The HD650 was released in 2003, before sub-bass became an expectation in headphones. Heck, the HD800 was released in 2009 and it is definitely not great with bass in general. So it’s really been in the last 10-15 years that things have changed, and sub-bass is now a bigger part of today’s modern music than it was in the past. People expect sub-bass now in headphones; this was most definitely not the case before. We’ve seen this with headphone revisions, for example the T1 and HD800 were revised to produce more and better bass (hence the HD800S). The iconic R10 have the best, smoothest and realistic midrange I’ve ever heard, but I think people today would be disappointed by the bass roll-off in those headphones and wouldn’t be happy with their level of bass reproduction with modern dance, hip-hop, or pop music. But for listening to say, the Beatles, the R10 is just surreal.
@@bertreviews thanks for replying. it'll be nice if we can have a demo of the e-mu teak with their stock pads just to gauge the normal amount of high they output. they receive so little coverage and i wonder if they secretly out perform the hd650. but of course again, opinions of an amateur that know little about technicalities.
LOL! I like to add a cheaper headphone in the mix in these tests, so people can really hear the difference that higher end headphones make to the listening experience. There are still many non-audiophiles out there who don't get this hobby and tell me they "can't hear the difference!"
The Tascams are pretty terrible indeed. The only thing they have going for them is decent bass and low mids, the rest of the spectrum is crap. For the same money or less, a Koss KSC75 or Sporta Pro destroy the Tascams in sound quality, or if you want a closed back over the ear, the Sennheiser HD206 also destroy them for a similar price.
@@bertreviews I bought beyer t1 and Hd , short story I kept T1 , sold Hd 800 , I 'm thinking to order Sony flagship and Hifiman X2 hope they are better for my taste
To my ears, the E-MU Teak are classic "old people" headphones who hate bass. Typical "audiophile" garbage you see all over the place. One thing I HATE about "audiophiles" are their love for crappy headphones with piss poor bass response. And when you get NEUTRAL headphones, they cry "too much bass" when in reality, its just right. Clearly they never heard sony's EXTRA-bass lineup. Those things are so bassy that the mids and highs suffer. The z7m2 sound decent to me. And sound better than my sony 1am2.... good bass, good mids, good highs. but obviously the highs aren't as bright as others nor as awesome as the z1r. The Tascam TH-02 sounds like CRAP. Super tinny and flat with zero bass. Just hell no for those. 19.99, you can get better sounding cheap end headphones, like KOSS brand.... During the 6xx you mention, how "sound should sound" except that isn't entirely true. Because if you compared the 6xx to the Sennheiser HD800s Reference, you would squirt. Granted, there is a price difference. But the "reference" part of the upper end HD800s makes sure you get TRUE NEUTRAL response. Flat EQ or "as flat as possible". These sound like the typical sennheisers.... which I've grown out of. CD1700 are pretty clean sounding. Lacking that bass though.... but the mids and highs are pretty damn good. I bet those were cheap back when too. But those too, are "reference" headphones, meaning they are meant to be as neutral as possible.
Interesting comparisons, but your test audio is unnatural, synthesized, and frankly, horrible. How can we tell what sounds better when it all sounds bad? You should use a recording of real, non-amplified acoustic instruments and/or vocals. We should know how a piano, saxophone, human voice, or violin should sound. This would make it easier to judge the headphones.
Thank you Robert for your comment, I appreciate it. It’s electronic dance music, and I can understand that not everyone likes that genre. In future individual (single) headphone reviews, I plan to use several different genres, including acoustic music, for a more complete perspective on a headphone’s range of musical reproduction. UA-cam is extremely strict on using copy written tracks, so I have to find music of different genres that are both high quality recordings and copyright-free. It’s proving a little difficult, but I’m working on it. P.S. You play soprano, alto _and_ tenor sax? Wow!
▶️ E-MU Teak: 6:00
▶️ Sony MDR-Z7M2: 7:28
▶️ Tascam TH-02: 8:53
▶️ Massdrop X Sennheiser HD 6XX: 10:16
▶️ Sony MDR-CD1700: 11:56
Hi Bert, have you ever tried the Denon AHD 9200? I am curious how they stack against the Sony MDR Z1R. Another pair comparison Im curious about would be the Beyerdynamic T5P 2nd Gen vs Sony MDR Z7M2. I currently only own a T5P 2nd Gen
I haven’t heard the 9200 yet but am curious, and I hope to eventually own a T5P second gen; I’ve heard it and I like it. I will be doing a closed-back comparison video next, where I’ll have several high end headphones to demo, so you can hear how they sound against each other. Some older closed backs will be included in the test too, because some of them just sound so darn good.
@@bertreviews good to hear. No pun intended. Lovin' the content on your channel. Btw, what is your go-to closed headphones?
Thanks very much! I’m a bit of an oddball in the headphone community because I own so many, and I can appreciate each for what they offer. Of the ones I own, I love the ZMF Eikon, Z1R as an comfortable all-rounder when I just want to relax after work, TH900 when I want the best bass, AH-D7000 when I want the Denon flavor without the TH900’s treble zing, and the amazing Sennheiser HD 250 (Mark I and II) which still competes with today’s headphones and does all music genres well. For video editing (not really for listening) I like the Sony 7506.
@@bertreviews I guess thats the reason why audio enthusiasts have so many headphones. Its hard to have 1 favorite. I mean, I only have the T5p 2nd gen for the upscale closed headphone. Im not sure where my go-to would compare to the average audiophile but I currently use my AKG Q701 to listen to headphone comparisons since I feel like they are the flatest sounding headphone. Im gonna give the HD250s a try if you consider them all arounders. I only wanted the Denon AHD 9200 since I liked the idea of the headphone being handcrafted in Japan. It gives off this exotic feel, just like the Beyers from Germany and my AKGs from Austria. But I guess the part that should always be a priority is the sound. Comfort I can compromise due to being used to my Grado RS2i for so long. The foam pads kill my ears. Haha
How this channel never took off will bewilder me until the day I take a header off this mortal coil.
This channel is going great places.
Thanks for your support! :)
You're doing really good job in headphone comparison. Just keep it up.
And yes this is a weird show😂
Lol! Thanks! 😂
for real, Burt. Come back please. This is so good.
@@stefaniedc1128 thanks, I really appreciate it. I shall return!
My current headphone is still MDR-CD1700! I love this model.
Ur lucky
This helped me decide that I want the Z7M2. Thank you!
Awesome, glad to hear it!
Dear Bert. I wish you all the best and hope to see you back with more review soon. You and your friends are proof that humorous presentation and serious content can be combined in a most elegant way 😃 Greetings from Denmark
Sony MDR-CD1700 sounded the best to me
makes one imagine how the mdr-r10 sound when they are possibly better as rumoured
Very nice Bert. I kind of prefer the Sony Z7MK2, it sounded better here, then the Teak. Great seeing you back! And another great production.......
Thanks Jay! Hope you are enjoying your Z7M2!
This looks absolutely silly yet absolutely amazing. Thanks for these great videos. They are fun, entertaining and more importantly very informative!
Thanks very much, happy you enjoyed them! More videos on the way 🙂
After the Sennheiser I was expecting the much older Sony to sound worse but they sound pretty close. With that brief sample I would choose the Sony. Excellent video.
Not sure why but the 6XX sounded so right. Also that ending wow lol. I did enjoy it though! Realistic POV, ASMR-feel, goofy antics, etc. What's not to like!! :D
Thanks! Santa's outro was an homage to another headphone reviewer... :) Glad you liked it
That's because it does lol, I'm wearing my 6XX listening to all these sound demos. Take the upper mids on the 6XX down a few dB and that is the exact midrange and treble target I look for in all headphones
Agree 100% if only it had killer extension and oomph down low :'(
(and HD 800 stage/imaging and HD 800 ergonomics and HD 800 resolution and... well there is no perfect headphone the HD 800 has low bass quantity and a treble peak they're all compromises but one can dream)
@@woopygoman yeah I still don't understand why the HD 800 didn't follow the 600/650's signature, considering the immense resources Sennheiser has and their previous experiments that led to them discovering something "like" Harman way before it was a thing. You can also now see why I upgraded to the LCD-2C, which improves on the bass extension of 650 and soundstage but with the same (well, actually even moreso) subdued and relaxed treble.
It does a very good job for guitars and vocals. Not so great at everything else. Even it's Soundstage is poor for an open back. It has a closed back like stage.
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Sony z7m2 end HD 6XX. Good job guys. Thanks.
Thanks!
WOW, your the best and fun reviewer I have watched and that's saying a lot since I follow over 70 reviewers. Great job on the channel, keep it up and looking forward to more from you Bert.
Wow thanks so much, really glad you are enjoying the channel! I'm working on more videos :)
Look forward to more. By far my favorite reviews.
Ok i just discovered this Channel i am on Headphones like u many years , And i have to say man... Life its like that some times exceptional work doesnt pay back . U have to be number one Reviewer for many reasons ... for example amazing video edit , u talk so clear and easy to understand, u have knowledge about this hoby , its only about headphones, its fun but serius fun without bad words, its the perfect channel for my kids to get in that hoby , and many many other ... The latest video its 1 year old so i guess u stop making these , but maybe u have to re think that ... Some times its better to get appreciated from a small group of good quality people i am sure your followers are that kind . Even that thanks for these amazing videos when i go home i will show them to my child.
Really like you're review Bert...this one no exception. And that Metal571 'intro' LOL... the outro though nearly killed me... LOL Notice Santa wasn't playing with the more fragile E-MU...smart man! LOL
If you ever are looking for a specific headphone to review I'm sure quite a few of us viewers would not mind lending them if you let us know. Keep up the great work you do... in all honesty you are my favorite headphone reviewer.
Oh, my favorite in the comparison would be the E-MU's... (I'm biodyna biased for dynamics) second favorite is the HD6XX's. FYI, was listening on my Porta Pro Xs with Yaxi pads, because that's what I use on my tablet. Will fire up my proper system and listen to again it for real later.
Thanks, I appreciate it! You read my mind EXACTLY about the E-MUs, that's why Santa didn't use them, LOL! Sure, maybe at some point I will set up a P.O. Box, good idea :)
Amazing Video Quality.
Perhaps you should ask people to send in their headphones or set up a P.O. Box. Then you'll have more gear to work with.
Thanks, I may do that after reviewing the headphones I have. Appreciate your comments as always :)
My friend its been a while .....will you put new videos out? I love your content!!!
Saludos desde Mexico.
Love the Video. Also recently bought the Z7M2. Like it really much.
Awesome, feel free to share your thoughts on them anytime!
Need more videos!!!!!
Lol! Thanks :) More videos on the way! Bert and the gang are working at it!
@@bertreviews 然而两年过去了，你怎么还不更新啊
Wow you have some old headphones here. Thanks for the review. Keep it up you have my subscribed.
Love this channel so much
Man, I LOVE me some headphone sound/comparison demo videos. Especially on a rig as well tuned as yours. Pure deliciousness in my ears. 🤪🤪🤪. MDRZ7M2 and the E-MU Teaks were my favs(I own the 6XX's already so no need to include them).
Nice, thanks man!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks!
The Z7M2s are my choice, I love dark sound and deep bass. Some may say there're some mids missing, but I don't hear that. I think they are great for those who love to be on the dark side:-) Good reviews, btw, all of them and interesting approach. You're watched from Russia, hello from here :-). And I recently bought the Z7M2s, before watching your videos on them. You only confirmed I made the right choice. Thanks. Those comparisons are very useful.
Thank you Roman, yes those are my thoughts too, Z7M2 are on the dark side, lol. Happy that you enjoy the videos!
@@bertreviews Nice to meet you, Bert, just keep it up.
Nice to meet you too! Thank you, I will!
Are you no longer making content?? This is great, very different and fun
Why did you stop making videos? This is the best channel on UA-cam..
LOL thanks for the shout. The really weird thing is I thought about making an intro just like that with a simple metal guitar riff for a couple seconds at the beginning of each video, but never got around to it. Keep up the good work - this channel clearly is the result of watching every major reviewer out there and trying to improve on every single aspect of all of them, which is what I did when I started, but YT audio reviews have, thankfully, come a long way since then. Have an awesome day.
PS the R10 has some of the sweetest sounding treble on any headphone ever. I had the pleasure of demoing one once
Wow thanks so much, that truly means a lot coming from you. I’ll keep watching your great videos, and I encourage everyone in the hobby to do so! Glad you liked the guitar riff 🙂 I totally agree about the R10; best midrange of all time, truly lifelike!
@@bertreviews if you ever want to bounce an idea off me or want any advice at all just tweet me on Twitter. I see you've been in the hobby for much longer than most of the guys on YT right now though which is a big plus to have that perspective. I've been looking for no copyright tracks to play on an EARS eventually so was looking for your contact info and Patreon but didn't find any lol
Thanks man, that is really nice of you! Hm, maybe I should get on Patreon? I’ve been using the UA-cam audio library which isn’t bad, and a YT channel called “NoCopyrightSounds” - although they mostly seem to have EDM tracks. You may also want to check out this: m.ua-cam.com/video/OJVSHjKIMOs/v-deo.html
I love your videos man, keep em coming :)
Thanks for your support, I will keep at it! :)
Man, Why'd you stop doing these videos?! they're AMAZING!
Thanks! More videos will be coming!
@@bertreviews Looking forward to them!
+1, yeah, why?:-) Could you get them coming faster, Bert? We are missing:-)
Thank you! I am trying. It is actually an insane amount of work and I am alone doing it, I wish I had help! But I will not stop, I will have videos out as fast as I can! Thank you for your support!!
Def need to start this channel again
Woooow que canal tan cool, muy buen video hermano tu llegaras lejos si te lo propones ;)
Saludos desde México wey :3
Muchísimas gracias😄muy able, hermano 🇲🇽🙂
Quality content as usual! Keep up the awesome work.
Thanks! 🙂
haha the "liquid metal" guy
I bought the E-MU teak, but on this sound demo I liked the Sony MDR-CD1700 way more. Let's hope I don't get disappointed when I her the E-MU teak live.
fun comparison. The Z7m2 is the most pleasant sounding for sure, it's just the richer, more detailed sound. and it better be for that price. the sennheiser is just way too flat for taste but rich in details. the emu is a less richer version of the HD6xx. The other sony just lacks in details, and the Tazcam shouldn't even be in this discussion lol
Thanks for your feedback, it’s great to know what people think!
The Teak sound demo is a bit weird. It seems it's not the stock pads that were installed on this one in the video. But some kind of Lawton pads. Sounds a bit brighter than with stock pads.
I own a pair of CD1700 and they sound as good as what can be heard in this video. Very balanced, a bit bass-light, slighty warm (warmer than most vintage Sony headphones). Impressive for 1996.
Very good eye (and ear) there! That’s right, I got them used, and they came with Lawton pads. Never had the stock. You sir, know your stuff!
oh wow now it makes me wonder how it originally sounds with the stock pads, since i found the bass too inadequate at the amount of highs that goes with and skipped purchasing the teak after watching this demo, thinking that the high will limit me from increasing volume to hear bass amount i like.
Bring the channel back
Educational & Entertaining as usual!
Thanks!!
I watched 15 seconds of this video and subscribed.
What are your impressions on the Sony Z7m2?
Sony has put a lot of tech into their recent headphones which I find interesting. To my ears, the bass is very big but a little boomy (you can hear that in this video), and the treble can be a little hot. Soundstage is not bad but imaging is a little vague. A little over priced at this time for the sound quality, but the fit and finish, build, comfort & ergonomics are outstanding. I'm not sure they will be an everyday "go-to" headphone for most, but they do well with certain genres. I suspect they will get mixed reviews, some will like them, others not as much. I always say though, that ultimately, sound preference is a personal choice so for those who love them, that's great. Thanks for watching!
Another great new video!
Thank you!
and...sigh....of course my favorite is the one no longer in production. Sony, bring it back PLEASE.
Love the channel, you're doing an amazing job! I was wondering what the tube amp on your desk is?
Thanks for your support! The tube amp is the Woo Audio 2. It’s a great OTL amplifier for use with high impedance headphones (anything above 100 ohms) and has a true “tube” sound. Matches perfectly with the Sennheiser HD 600/650/800. Upgraded several of the tubes from stock, including Tung Sol 5998 power tubes. I will do a review of it one day.
Great high quality channel.
I noticed that none of the headphones sounded overly bright, sibilant or harsh. Yet people say some of them are.
Is it because of the recording gear? The music you used? I would like to hear them play acoustic music. Not just that electronic dance stuff.
P.s. i intended to write this on the review with fostex th900, beyerdynamic t1...
Thanks for your comment! One thing I am noticing is that different people like different sounding headphones, as the feedback I'm getting has been very varied. It's also possible that people have different levels of tolerance for sibilance for example. Some really don't like it, while others comment that they don't mind it at all. There are many possible reasons for this. I think the recording gear in my tests is good, the binaural mic is very high end and to me, represents the sound accurately. Of course what is heard on UA-cam is also affected by the listening equipment (headphones especially) being used by the listener watching the video. Thanks for your suggestion to use different types of music, I will try to find a royalty-free acoustic track, and will possibly make an acoustic version of the testing videos, especially if there is a lot of demand for it. Many thanks!
Which one do you prefer between HD-6xx and CD1700? Please elaborate..
I'm not an expert, but I'd say that if you're really into bass, then the MDR-Z7M2 is for you. Otherwise, I'd say that the Sennheiser is more balanced overall. The E-MU Teak... I don't know, it just sounds dull to me. Personally, I'd pick the Sennheiser any day.
P.S. I've been listening to this test with the Koss Porta Pro :P
Can you please come back!?
The TH-02 are Studio Monitor headphones, which are just for mixing music as opposed to listening to it. The responses are flat so as to get a congruent mix across devices. That's why they have an "interesting" sound. For mixing only.
Yes of course, but what I meant was - they sound cheap. But that was on purpose, I included cheap headphones so that people could hear the difference. I did the same in the first listening test video as well. You bring up a fascinating point though. Interestingly, plenty of people use and have used monitor headphones for music listening. Some people just like a flatter response. For example many reviewers have discussed the ATH-M50x & ATH-M40 here on UA-cam strictly from a listening perspective. I remember this being true as far back as the 80s. For example, back then, the Sony MDR CD-6 technically a small monitor on-ear headphone, was (and still is) sought after by Sony collectors for its sound. Thanks so much for your comment.
@@bertreviews I appreciate your reply. It's nice to see someone who knows what they are talking about. I watched a video once where the guy was reviewing a lavalier mic and thought "Lavalier" was the company producing said mic so I guess I've been quick to respond since then lol. Have a great weekend!
Great review. I used to mix with CD1700s and would pay you almost anything for that pair! Would you consider selling them?!
Thanks for the offer Theo, they mean too much to me, had them since the 90s! But they show up on eBay - not often - BUT I see maybe 2 - 3 pairs/year for sale. Set up an alert on your eBay app, you’ll get them eventually!
Phenomenal video!
Thanks! 🙂
Ok I'm hooked love the tyll reference lol
Closing my eyes and just listening I thought Yoda was speaking instead of grover... Might include Yoda in the cast 👍
You know what? That’s not a bad idea!! He was the one who first instructed Bert...
@@bertreviews “Your path you must decide.” - Yoda
Lol, I love it
And also star wars fans might love your review... Hoping to see your Yoda character...
And may it bring you new and more subscribers!
May the force be with you! 👍
Is that Zeos at the 7:15 mark? TheeZ3!
Z7M2 sounded the best when I used my HD6XX, which sounded the best through my Z7M2 :-)
hd 6xx thats why its a classic . great video thank u
Just love the 6XX, and it's great at $199. Thanks very much!
the tascam DEFINITELY do sound like they are 15 bucks.. personally i dunno if its worth buying though... its way too tinny and flat.. little bass extension and the trebel feels a bit too flat.. basically id recommend saving up more money for something else like a koss portapro or cheaper studio monitors like the 7506 or AKG line
but then again none of them really passed my warmth test on the bass or vibrancy... even though my main use headphones are similar sennheiser 56x (aka 660s)
Thanks for your thoughts on these. I agree, the Tascams are extreme low end. They could maybe work as a child’s headphone, as kids aren’t usually interested in fidelity and the Tascams are reasonably durable - but even if they break, well, it’s only 15 bucks. I included the Tascam just a an extreme point of comparison for the other headphones. Appreciate and enjoy reading your comments!
I just thought of something, do kids today know what Elmo is?
You don't upload anymore?
Edit: the ending ahaha STOP PLAYING WITH THE HEADPHONES
how is it that nobody seems to have issues with the hd 600+ series having no sub bass since they all roll off drastically below 100 hertz? i know they are ez for long duration listening but still, does it qualify as reference grade if it doesnt do sub-bass? or is it because with the sub bass done well u have to redo the mids and high all over again now that sub bass is added to the tuning and is it that somethings got to give or it will be a muddy mess if we have excellence in all 3 departments of low mid high?
also, im no headphone expert but the mdr-cd1700 seems to be born in a time that emphasized crazy highs over lows but happen to be that near perfect tuning model that does all 3 areas of lows mids highs really well, but if u listen critically it doesnt really do bass well enough or that the wonderful forward vocals and highs are concealing the bass quite a bit from being a nice and adequate enough bass. having said this, i still think the mdr-cd1700 is better than hd650 :O, beating the supposed best all rounder headphone? wish i could get a new pair of them.
also what if the sony mdr-r10 made a comeback? lol
These are really very excellent points, thanks for your comment. I’ve been in the hobby since the early 90s, and it’s only in the last 10 years or so that sub-bass has really become an essential, even expected component of higher end headphones. It’s not that people didn’t like sub-bass before that, because they did (I had a massive subwoofer in my ‘92 Honda Civic. Aw yeah!). It’s just that people didn’t expect great sub-bass from headphones. Speakers, yes, but not from headphones. I’m not sure if it was a technological limitation of earlier headphones or the fact that high end headphone listeners back then didn’t really listen to music with heavy bass, but nobody really expected headphones to be akin to speakers in the bass department. For example, if you look at advertisements for high end headphones from the 90s, they talk a lot about listening to classical music! (Which doesn’t need sub-bass). You’d never see advertisements like that today. The HD650 was released in 2003, before sub-bass became an expectation in headphones. Heck, the HD800 was released in 2009 and it is definitely not great with bass in general. So it’s really been in the last 10-15 years that things have changed, and sub-bass is now a bigger part of today’s modern music than it was in the past. People expect sub-bass now in headphones; this was most definitely not the case before. We’ve seen this with headphone revisions, for example the T1 and HD800 were revised to produce more and better bass (hence the HD800S). The iconic R10 have the best, smoothest and realistic midrange I’ve ever heard, but I think people today would be disappointed by the bass roll-off in those headphones and wouldn’t be happy with their level of bass reproduction with modern dance, hip-hop, or pop music. But for listening to say, the Beatles, the R10 is just surreal.
@@bertreviews thanks for replying. it'll be nice if we can have a demo of the e-mu teak with their stock pads just to gauge the normal amount of high they output. they receive so little coverage and i wonder if they secretly out perform the hd650. but of course again, opinions of an amateur that know little about technicalities.
next review when. i need more bert
Thank you! I am working every day on the next video. Filming is almost finished, then on to editing. Appreciate that you are watching! :)
what is the tube amp in the background there?
Woo Audio 2, OTL headphone amplifier with some upgraded tubes
@@bertreviews Thanks for the reply. your videos are great btw!
Thanks, I really appreciate it! Hope you keep watching 🙂
So well done....... Those Tascam headphones are awful ---- I gave mine to Goodwill last week.
LOL! I like to add a cheaper headphone in the mix in these tests, so people can really hear the difference that higher end headphones make to the listening experience. There are still many non-audiophiles out there who don't get this hobby and tell me they "can't hear the difference!"
The Tascams are pretty terrible indeed. The only thing they have going for them is decent bass and low mids, the rest of the spectrum is crap. For the same money or less, a Koss KSC75 or Sporta Pro destroy the Tascams in sound quality, or if you want a closed back over the ear, the Sennheiser HD206 also destroy them for a similar price.
Like here as well! :)
Emu teak seems best from the demo.
What am I watching
Why is elmo here
He somehow just shows up whenever I mention the 90s...
waw MDR z7m2 was the best heavy bass and darker than the others ,, hate Hd800 sound
Yes it is a dark headphone which is why I had Darth Vader at the end, LOL. Z7M2 is definitely tuned for big bass.
@@bertreviews I bought beyer t1 and Hd , short story I kept T1 , sold Hd 800 , I 'm thinking to order Sony flagship and Hifiman X2 hope they are better for my taste
yoiu forgot about the recent line of Denons, D5200, D7200, and D9200
Sadly, I don’t have any of those...but if I did, I would compare them! I’m curious about the nanofiber drivers.
It's funny even with the puppets your less cartoonish than Zeos lol
6xx of course!!!
まったくsonyは最高だぜ！！！！
@@AwaAwa100grade 「はい、Sonyは長年にわたって素晴らしいヘッドホンを作ってきましたね。」
To my ears, the E-MU Teak are classic "old people" headphones who hate bass. Typical "audiophile" garbage you see all over the place. One thing I HATE about "audiophiles" are their love for crappy headphones with piss poor bass response. And when you get NEUTRAL headphones, they cry "too much bass" when in reality, its just right. Clearly they never heard sony's EXTRA-bass lineup. Those things are so bassy that the mids and highs suffer.
The z7m2 sound decent to me. And sound better than my sony 1am2.... good bass, good mids, good highs. but obviously the highs aren't as bright as others nor as awesome as the z1r.
The Tascam TH-02 sounds like CRAP. Super tinny and flat with zero bass. Just hell no for those. 19.99, you can get better sounding cheap end headphones, like KOSS brand....
During the 6xx you mention, how "sound should sound" except that isn't entirely true. Because if you compared the 6xx to the Sennheiser HD800s Reference, you would squirt. Granted, there is a price difference. But the "reference" part of the upper end HD800s makes sure you get TRUE NEUTRAL response. Flat EQ or "as flat as possible". These sound like the typical sennheisers.... which I've grown out of.
CD1700 are pretty clean sounding. Lacking that bass though.... but the mids and highs are pretty damn good. I bet those were cheap back when too. But those too, are "reference" headphones, meaning they are meant to be as neutral as possible.
boooi this is great entertainment
Thanks :)
Z7 sucks, same sound as the 1000xm, veiled shit, HD650 was the best.
Interesting comparisons, but your test audio is unnatural, synthesized, and frankly, horrible. How can we tell what sounds better when it all sounds bad? You should use a recording of real, non-amplified acoustic instruments and/or vocals. We should know how a piano, saxophone, human voice, or violin should sound. This would make it easier to judge the headphones.
Thank you Robert for your comment, I appreciate it. It’s electronic dance music, and I can understand that not everyone likes that genre. In future individual (single) headphone reviews, I plan to use several different genres, including acoustic music, for a more complete perspective on a headphone’s range of musical reproduction. UA-cam is extremely strict on using copy written tracks, so I have to find music of different genres that are both high quality recordings and copyright-free. It’s proving a little difficult, but I’m working on it. P.S. You play soprano, alto _and_ tenor sax? Wow!
How did u go to sony website in 1996?
Love your videos! BTW, why Mr. Ears has eyes on his neck? It makes me nervous
Lol! Thanks 🙂