DCS 2.7 New Clouds First VR Impressions! Reverb G2 + RTX 3090
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Alright! DCS 2.7 is here! This new update brings the new weather system that we have been craving for so long! But was this worth the hype? Specially for VR? Well, lets give it a go!
Current Specs:
R9 3900X
32GB RAM @ 3200Mhz
RTX 3090
3 Monitor set-up @1440p
Reverb G2
Track-IR 5 + PRO Clip
T16000M Hotas + Rudders
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Yeah first thing I noticed was the difference between 2D and VR...youre spot on there...The 2D version are not just sharper, but also more detailed and less flat than in VR...there are more lighting effects defining the shape....also the jittering is annoying, but I expect this to be fixed very soon.....The lighting you mentioned, has improved dramatically though, not just for shadows of clouds on clouds but also on the terrain...It changed the whole look of the landscape! A lot less cartoony than before....My mind can now trick me as if I'm flying a real jet! .....I'm a VR user and don't find it attractive to go back to 2D....only for training purposes...But I do hope that they find a way to make it look and feel more like the 2D version
Yes totally, I hope they will not just correct the jittering and leave the VR clouds as they are... Why such a difference with flat screen? Obviously they downgraded the clouds a lot for VR otherwise it would play at 5 fps on the best gaming computers in the world.
Do VR clouds use a different renderer?
Actually they say in the patch notes that they are working on the jittering.
And how long have they been working on the F18?
@@zfghobbies ... and in culling?
The old cloudy clouds.. " the whole map covered with a single layer of cloud-pathetic" you obviously haven't seen Scotland 90% of the Autumn/winter then..... 🤣🤣🤣
Well, they brought the sky from MFS2020 into DCS - now please do the same thing with the ground and it’ll be just perfect!
my gpu disagrees
The "dancing cloud problem" is knowen and will be fixed so
Thanks, I have a RTX2080 and i7-9700, 32GB plus Rift S, I also have the cloud stuttering issue and they just bounce up and down. Also in VR the cloud isn't sharp for me
I think the problem in VR is, that the clouds where rendered complete seperate and added to the scene as a kind of overlay. This is done by a fixed resolution. This is even smaller than the HMD. Its also smoothed by a kind of Antialiasing Filter. When rotation the outside Camera fast you can see the small voxel Blocks. When stopping its smoothed very fast. So I think the whole Cloud System is max. 1024xsomething in resolution. In Flatscreenmode its not that big Problem, but in VR you are much „closer“ so you need a higher res. Sadly there is nothing over the ULTRA Mode that look like its changing these settings. I still searching for the shader to increase that, but sadly nothing happens when changing anything in shaders with cloud in the names...
Now they need to improve the outdated looking terrain
FUnny how the youtubers all think it's looks great and 'is awesome' yet on the forums everybody using VR is having MASSIVE problems.
Yeap, in VR the clouds look a mess and no where near what they look like in 2D.
You can see the potential and ED are working on it but it only seems that content creators are thinking they look good.
Yea well, forums are where a lot of users go when they're having problems soooo
1:10 I was just watching not listening and got scared when I thought this was the new clouds I was like surely that isn't right.
Haha
They must improve on the clarity, shadows casting and the over-brightness of the clouds in VR..
I have no not noticed any difference in cloud quality in VR when moving from "Standard" to "Ultra". Hopefully that's a bug, and not working as intended. 3090 here.
Haven't tried it yet but also a 3090 so hoping this doesn't crush me like MSFS does.
Try deleting fxo and metashaders2 folder in dcs saved games folder
R11 and 3090 2d very crisp G2 just along fir the ride. Vram temp around 92c the 3090 is the one that needs a thermal paste cloud over the vram haha 😊
Just fantastic what ED are doing with this simulator.
I'm updating now, but it appears that the rain on the canopy is missing?
My guess is the new effects got rid of it, and they'll code some new ones.
@@Norkeys I hope so, some good old VFR in to IMC at 450 knots on the deck will sort the chaps from the pledges. Get in line for your IFR training... soon ☺
I think he turned SSLR off. I am not a VR user so I do not know for sure but I have SSLR on and MSAA off (because that really lowers FPS on my system) and got those rain drops on the windscreen.
Hey X-Check, any update on DCS clouds 2 years later? I just got back to flying
These clouds are really amazing. And this update seems to have fixed a lot of other framerate issues in vr as well. But... I can't fly. For the first time ever in dcs I started getting sick because of the cloud jitters. I set clouds to ultra and still had jitters.
At the beginning of the video I saw your 130fps and thought that was VR.
Eagle Dynamics dynamics did it again. All I wish for now is a SP dynamic campaign generator (something like in EF2000 would do just fine)
& a new VR headset with 140H FOV or better (HP are you listening?) and I'll be in 7th heaven :)
Pimax 8K+ no?
@@jejelerider3278 Tried 5K+, but it has some weird lenses distortion around the edges making me motion sick. Maybe it's just not compatible with shape of my face/eyes.
I hope they work on the clouds a bunch. They are a great addition with 2.7, but at the moment in the distance they look cartoonish.
I saw those issues you pointed out I got used to it after an hour of playing. There is a huge hit on Red flag f16 missions. I dropped from 45 fps to 16 with the same settings
My biggest gripe with DCS is that it requires hardware that is too hard to get/overly expensive these days. Back in the 1.5 days, you could run 4 monitors (3 for views and 1 for insturments) on a GTX 970 with decent frame rates and eye candy. Since then, you have to have the latest and greatest/overly priced hardware to keep up with the fps and eye candy and/or scale down the monitors to a single monitor. And forget about a decent VR experience. In VR on an i7-8700K and a GTX 1080 Ti, you are plagued with massive shimmering and jaggies that seem to cause motion sickness quickly or inducing siezures. I know they are working on trying to get the game ported over to Vulkan so we can finally start taking advantage of the many multiple cpu threads we all have had the past 20 years but I really do hope they fix it so people can use multiple gpu's. Having a gpu per eye for VR would be awesome buy utilizing multiple video cards would also make the multiple monitor setups viable again. The only way to stay viable these days is to be extremely lucky and sell your first born just to get a gpu that can handle it all such as the RTX 3090 with it's processing speeds and 24GB of ram... Nothing else can really compare. Crazy since the GTX 1080 Ti is supposed to provide decent 4k gaming on other games.
The funny matt said they don't need the multi core support on dcs w forums and now they have to move the job on vulcano. just let them eat the words.
The graphic optimization still needs to be improved, Just like theirs funny module quality check before released.
VR is getting better, but it’s not there yet...I’ll stick with my ultra-wide and track-ir....😏
Dcs very nice game but scenary. In VR. So terrible dcs need up date cloud end scenay so terrible.
is not only cloud issues in VR is also the scenary end maps in VE in dcs is so terreble en bad they need up date nice scenary too.
These clouds are amazing
Sad that we have to turn all settings down to run DCS in VR, even with high-end gear.
your voice is very soothing but i gotta be honest this was terrible review
Thanks for the vid and looking to get into VR, specifically the G2. But I have been hearing that G2 isn't very AMD motherboard friendly and people are having issues with USB connections. Did you have a problem hooking up the G2? Thanks.
does everyone have an issue with clouds being very pixelated when viewed into a big distance in VR? (especially at the cloud/sky or cloud/ground interface)
Dear Reverb G2 user, what's the difference with the G1? I saw lots of G1 to sell, and it's seems that the screen resolution are the same. Is there a user who had the G1 before G2 and who can tell me is it's worth to get G2 instead of a G1 at 300€?
Quit a few crashes with this update but it’s a game changer in 2d the clouds are beautiful performance is actually great but the crashes I hope a patch will crash that crash
G2 3090...
Man, the drool is real.
Wow, the difference is night and day.
Hi, great presentation, thanks.
Short question, I'm new in dcs, this is a openbeta and not available in the game to update now? When will it be there?
Thanks
Cheers
I love Sour clip. It‘s so positiv.
Thank you sir, i thought i was the only 1 who thought the clouds where very soft looking in vr.
same here, too soft, no hard edges.
@@EdvardHansson yep back to the drawing board, they do my head in
Yip look like soft blurs not clouds in VR
Same here
Same here, I have to try again to see a difference with pre 2.7. When I do a quick mission the clouds are like flat rectangles and 1m thick...
Artefacts and layers jumping are two issues already being corrected by ED, it is at the bottom of the changelog in the known issues section :)
I hate new clouds, can't spot anything on ground
Just like you said... Blurry and jitter... Not VR ready but anyways a great step forward
Great stuff. Similar setup and I find the same as you describe.
VR...This is the WAY!
Subbed for VR. 💖
I assume you forgot to turn shadow on?
Looks better than MSFS clouds, some of you might know why.
They really don't. I like them though.
Sorry , these can be easily setup in MSFS are just fixed preset, not live weather.
I feel this update broke VR more then before
Specs? It is running better for me, and a lot of other people.
Yes... eyes suffer more ... is really better the enviroment but something is missing the blurry and jittering ruins the VR user ... its a great job indeed... patience
@@D31TCJG What are your specs ?? and by run better can you define that , i.e more FPS ???
This vid shows higher GPU utilization so I don't understand how you can have increased performance in 2.7 ??
@@Johnny641 i7 9700K @5GHz 48GB DDR4 at 3200Mhz RTX 3080FE OC Sabrent PCIE 4.0 SSD
@@D31TCJG That's very high spec, so what performance increase have you noticed ?? Are you seeing more FPS ??
...im using a 3090
Dancing clouds back in service :D
_So nice
VR clouds are low enough quality to be insulting compared to how well everything else looks
Remember it's the first beta release of the clouds, everything will be tuned
Since I have nearly the same setup as you (but with a RTX 3060) I have to ask: what are your settings ingame and in the Nvidea Control panel? I am still trying to figure out how to get rid of the hickups and find a good compromise between too much and too low.
there's a huge difference between the 3060, 3080 and 3090
My clouds in VR don't look that good as yours. My clouds are just white, no any 'shadows' or darker sites (which makes them look good). I set them to ultra, shadows maxed out and still they are just white objects..
Try turning on SSAO it may help
@@dusty4459 It was my fault. I'm so stupid... I was testing clouds at 12 o clock when the sun is 90' above the ground and I was between sun and clouds expecting to see shadows on them.... :DDDDDD
@@MarcinQ_53 Glad you got it sorted.
Quick reminder: It is still an Open BETA.
If You want to VR You need to wait a few years for 244Hz 16kx16k HMD to be avaible... VR at such low resolutuons and 90 FPS as you have now, is not VR.... its NVIdia messing with epople to buy stronger gpu's.... True VR HMD Threshold is 244Hz 16kx16k resolutions,,, dont forget.