Mate, I really enjoy your content, but I have to disagree with this take. Samsung rushed the ZFold 6 when they clearly could have taken their time and focused on releasing the SE as the main phone-the one their customer base has been asking for for years. It feels like a missed opportunity to truly listen to their customers.
@@artem_pusyak Absolutely not worth it. It became immediately redundant as soon as Samsung released the SE variant. Why would anyone choose the regular Fold 6 over the SE, especially when the SE aligns more with what users have been asking for?
Nah, I don't think so. I think Samsung was just trying out new stuff with the design and features, like they always do. The Fold 6 was just part of their plan, like with their other phones.
@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 he don't know Samsung can sell proper upgrade foldable like SE but stupid Samsung just resell their 4 years recycle crap to international fans..lol..
Lengthy read , share your thoughts! So, let me start by saying this... I've upgraded from ZFOLD3 in Sept... so the ZFold6 looks, feels, design, polish, size, weight, colors, 7yrs of OS updates was and still is all near perfect... ZFold6 would've killed everything, including it's on kind and family... with just 2 features, but I got 4. The 2 features, not a taller fold, nor a thinner, but , but just wider cover only ?🤔? like .5 mm to 1.5 mm alone, coupled with embedded S-pen ?🤔?. 👂 But the fact that they (Samsung) showed they can get better cameras w/thinner and crease reduction. Hurt themselves, here's why... ✔️ if those cameras don't show up on the ZFold7 but better, let down... ✔️ crease isn't reduced further, let down. ✔️ If cover display is not wider, let down, because you made a big change for the SE model. Now my 4th feature is you won't increase battery, but you can bring back 45w or give us 🌟 50w - 65w superfast and 25w wireless fast charging... why not? Why not? The battery has been used and R&D for this many Foldables, yet you can't figure out faster charging, but Honor & Vivo makers can hmm 😔. ZFOLD7: has to have crease reduction hands down on main display! ZFOLD7: has to have better or ZF6-SE cameras at worst. ZFOLD7: has to have some kind of 1 mm wider cover display or ZF6-SE size, period. ZFOLD7: has to have faster superfast charging no questions or SE size bigger battery. If you look at the spen embedded in Note/S-Ultra lines they small and thin... as long as Spen can be made the size of a usbc port spen can be integrated. So they can keep raising prices ,but can't give us what we want, cameras and Spen integration wider cover display. Never stop asking... til we get it... Get that tri-fold done already...that's worth 3000 but not no ZFold6 SE model... kick rocks.
I would not be okay if the Z Fold 6 was exactly like the Z Fold SE and I actually love the outter screen on the Z Fold 6. I generally didn't think I would, but it has its advantages. I also love the screen on the SE, but not enough to lose S-Pen support.
Mine (authentic) also has a smell inside! I don't know what's going on because none of my other products have the smell of the kislux bag. Called LV and they said it is normal and I can wipe the inside with a damp cloth. I thought the lining was suede but it's actually microfiber so I'm going to look for ways to remove the microfiber smell because the smell is keeping me from using it often.
As somebody looking to upgrade to a fold 6, the special editions lack of s-pen support seems like a downgrade! But I do prefer bigger screens and don't care about the camera hole.
Yeah they definitely scammed people who bought the z fold 6 they could have easily integrated all the upgrades the did to the special edition but since they know there is not much competition in the US so they just basically gave us the same phone they have been proforma the past 4 years.
I absolutely agree with you. Samsung just test the water with limited release of SE and wait for consumers will react to it. I think that we will get on fold 7 next year, with spen support
With how people were reviewing this, i am glad i didn't fall for the black friday deal. I was going to get a fold 6 with how they were slashing $800 off but seeing how this version came out and it looked way better than the fold 6 itself, i just figured I'mma stick to my s20 fe for now. Samsung need to buck up!!
I think Samsung did it on purpose. They wanted to see how popular it would be and test the durability of the phone to a smaller group. Hopefully it comes to the US next year 🤞🏻
I am team narrow. I can't explain it but there's something about the Z Fold 6 that makes me love it. I know it's not the best camera, they should have given us a bigger zoom sensor at least, but still, it is good enough. Unpopular opinion i know, but doesn't having a normal phone sized cover screen, that basically can handle all tasks so you don't have to unfold the phone, defeat the purpose of having a foldable?🤷
@SamGalaxyZ sure they can, Honor and almost all other China OEM's have done that this year with their foldables in a much slimmer body. And combined that with a 5000+ mAh battery even
I wish Samsung, and maybe all the phone manufacturers would move to a bi-annual release cycle. We'd get better devices overall. It's takes a lot of time to really update a product in both hardware and software aspects. With an annual release these devices feel like little more than minimal updates and the consumers are being used as beta testers. This is proven correct because immediately after the release of every new device the online community is flooded with talk of issues and pending updates to address them. We've gotten so used to this cycle that it's become a part of the release of every device.
There is still a real obsession about cameras and photography. Spend the money, or save the money, by having a bigger display and include S pen and ensure DeX works well and that apps are properly designed to work in the larger screen!
If the SE was widely available and a reasonable cost, I would buy it in a second. It fixes all the issues that I don’t like about the 6, such as the width, the crease, the camera, and the thickness. I currently use a Note 20 Ultra, and I hardly ever use the S-Pen, so I wouldn't miss it. The camera hole on the inner display wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I would take those issues over the major drawbacks with the 6 in a heartbeat. Hopefully, Samsung will soon release it in more markets to make it more available. I realize they are testing the waters with this, but there is clearly a demand for it. Come on, Samsung!
Fold3,4, and now 6 owner here. The 6 isnt perfect. I still want a dockable pen, and cover screen writing, but beyond that? The cameras are plenty imo, the screen size is just about perfect as well. I dunno. The 6 is very slick. Don't feel scammed at all. Id told myself id wait until the fole offered the pen features i mentioned, but with that BF deal, a Fold6-512 for 550$ to my door with fold4 tradein. That was too good to pass up.
I think some of these changes are coming in Fold 7. I have to say I prefer the Fold 6 format for both one handed external screen operation and easier split screen typing g when open.
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Both missing features - UDC and Spen support - have one reason. Using the new FTG technology instead of UTG. But I agree - in Fold7 lineup we could see the smaller Fold7 and bigger Fold7 Ultra (better cameras from S25 Ultra, Spen support). Globally.
Great review but... I will not jump on a fold until the Fold is like the FE and better battery, and s pen support. If it gets implemented inside with all these featues then take my money. But otherwise, the Ultra line up is for me. No compromise on anything pretty much when you think about it.
I would still choose my z fold 6. Has mor features. I do agree we should have gotten the best camera, even though the z fold 6 has a nice camera too. I guess you can't have it all with these businesses because that is how they make there money.
Im tired of my z fold 6 the narrow was nice in the beginning but i got tired of it fast and low resolution screen as far as PPI. I'm switching to the pixel 9 pro xl
Had the fold 4, I hated it and returned it. Tried again with the 6, hoping the AI would be impressive, but its just a gimmick, however, I held on to the phone to try and give it a run as a daily driver over my pixel. I cant do it. Its too narrow and useless as a phone when closed. Difficult to open without feeling like youre going to break it. Im still using last years pixel and keeping the fold in a drawer as a backup.
Anybody who thinks they got ripped off really needs to rethink how and why they buy products. If you bought a Fold6, you got EXACTLY what you paid for. You didn't buy an "upgrade" option with it. This is like thinking you're getting ripped off because the Fold7 will be out next year. Dumb.
no they did scam us but just selective discrimination eg exynos vs snapdragon. honesty samsung needs total change of leadership eg tm roh & all need to.
In the first part of the video when you list the advantages of the Fold 6 I thought that if Samsung had put the cameras from the S23 Ultra and removed that crease like in SE version, there would be no crying 😀It's not even so much about the 200 Mpx camera because it really needs a lot of light to take a great photo, but the macro mode is really cool in my opinion. Customers would get a slightly larger screen, greater camera capabilities and a smaller crease in the middle of the screen. And these are the changes I would require in the Fold 7 to think about changing my current smartphone.
2:10 it will be under display on fold 7 😂 how else would people tell the difference between a se and 7 😂 since they rushed the 7 as a se to stop the fold customer transition to google pixel fold pro 😂
How many people were going to switch over to a Google foldable? 3, maybe 4, and that's an over guess on my part... I believe. And if anyone leaves Samsung for Google, don't stop them, just let them be gone. They can take all of Google with them too. Free Samsung from have Google on our Samsung phones!!! I don't want a company that allows malware, riskware apps to be bought or freely downloaded onto a users/customers device. They don't care about our devices to begin with... and they're are snitches, too. With all the shit they allow in the Play store they don't clean it up, but take the time to rat on other companies for bullshit. Fuck Google.
Mate, I really enjoy your content, but I have to disagree with this take. Samsung rushed the ZFold 6 when they clearly could have taken their time and focused on releasing the SE as the main phone-the one their customer base has been asking for for years. It feels like a missed opportunity to truly listen to their customers.
So you think the fold 6 is not worth it?
@@artem_pusyak Absolutely not worth it. It became immediately redundant as soon as Samsung released the SE variant. Why would anyone choose the regular Fold 6 over the SE, especially when the SE aligns more with what users have been asking for?
I have a fold 5 and saw no difference with the fold 6 so I didn't upgrade.
@John-ep9kx don't blame you. What's the point of upgrading for very minor incremental improvements.
Nah, I don't think so. I think Samsung was just trying out new stuff with the design and features, like they always do. The Fold 6 was just part of their plan, like with their other phones.
Fold 6 customer here. Feel absolutely ripped off
👀
Why? You didn't know what you paid for?
@@myfakeguuglaccount8307 he don't know Samsung can sell proper upgrade foldable like SE but stupid Samsung just resell their 4 years recycle crap to international fans..lol..
That's what you get.
Who in the blue hell would pay 1700/2000 for a phone 😢
You can't use the Spen with the special edition? I hope that is not a sign of things to come. The S Pen is the only reason I stick with Samsung
They removed the SPen to make the SE slimmer...
I could be wrong, but I think there are a lot of people that are not happy with the way this went down. The US market especially.
Count me as 1 of those people.
Why didn't they put the effort on z fold 6?
And why didn't they wait to announce a perfect fold 7 with a great marketing
Yes the ZFold 6 was an eror and they new it. Stop defending it
Word!
Only dumb will still defend it, for sure.
Narrow is not a selling feature. I want the wider screen. Give me essentially two s24 ultra phones stacked on top of eachother. That would be amazing.
Finally somebody who understands!
Do you not understand that some other people want a narrow display ? You not alone in this world.
Fold should have a narrow display buy two s24 ultra join them with tape
Making the outer screen wider = square-er inner screen. I don't like that. I'm definitely in team narrow.
No S-Pen support is a deal breaker for me.
Lengthy read , share your thoughts!
So, let me start by saying this... I've upgraded from ZFOLD3 in Sept... so the ZFold6 looks, feels, design, polish, size, weight, colors, 7yrs of OS updates was and still is all near perfect...
ZFold6 would've killed everything, including it's on kind and family...
with just 2 features, but I got 4. The 2 features, not a taller fold, nor a thinner, but , but just wider cover only ?🤔? like .5 mm to 1.5 mm alone, coupled with embedded S-pen ?🤔?.
👂 But the fact that they (Samsung) showed they can get better cameras w/thinner and crease reduction.
Hurt themselves, here's why... ✔️ if those cameras don't show up on the ZFold7 but better, let down... ✔️ crease isn't reduced further, let down. ✔️ If cover display is not wider, let down, because you made a big change for the SE model.
Now my 4th feature is you won't increase battery, but you can bring back 45w or give us 🌟 50w - 65w superfast and 25w wireless fast charging... why not? Why not? The battery has been used and R&D for this many Foldables, yet you can't figure out faster charging, but Honor & Vivo makers can hmm 😔.
ZFOLD7: has to have crease reduction hands down on main display!
ZFOLD7: has to have better or ZF6-SE cameras at worst.
ZFOLD7: has to have some kind of 1 mm wider cover display or ZF6-SE size, period.
ZFOLD7: has to have faster superfast charging no questions or SE size bigger battery.
If you look at the spen embedded in Note/S-Ultra lines they small and thin... as long as Spen can be made the size of a usbc port spen can be integrated.
So they can keep raising prices ,but can't give us what we want, cameras and Spen integration wider cover display.
Never stop asking... til we get it...
Get that tri-fold done already...that's worth 3000 but not no ZFold6 SE model... kick rocks.
I would not be okay if the Z Fold 6 was exactly like the Z Fold SE and I actually love the outter screen on the Z Fold 6. I generally didn't think I would, but it has its advantages. I also love the screen on the SE, but not enough to lose S-Pen support.
Mine (authentic) also has a smell inside! I don't know what's going on because none of my other products have the smell of the kislux bag. Called LV and they said it is normal and I can wipe the inside with a damp cloth. I thought the lining was suede but it's actually microfiber so I'm going to look for ways to remove the microfiber smell because the smell is keeping me from using it often.
As somebody looking to upgrade to a fold 6, the special editions lack of s-pen support seems like a downgrade! But I do prefer bigger screens and don't care about the camera hole.
Yeah they definitely scammed people who bought the z fold 6 they could have easily integrated all the upgrades the did to the special edition but since they know there is not much competition in the US so they just basically gave us the same phone they have been proforma the past 4 years.
The SE IMO, is a preview of the Fold 7. Samsung is using the SE to see how the public reacts to it.
I absolutely agree with you. Samsung just test the water with limited release of SE and wait for consumers will react to it. I think that we will get on fold 7 next year, with spen support
Fold 7 is going to be like the fold 6
@@BimaKawindra in your dream...they will come out with another Fold 6 next year, called Fold 7 aka Fold 6.1..lol
😂😂@@ryan2824
I'm team narrow 😊 I just got my new fold 6 yesterday and I love it!❤
With how people were reviewing this, i am glad i didn't fall for the black friday deal. I was going to get a fold 6 with how they were slashing $800 off but seeing how this version came out and it looked way better than the fold 6 itself, i just figured I'mma stick to my s20 fe for now. Samsung need to buck up!!
I think Samsung did it on purpose. They wanted to see how popular it would be and test the durability of the phone to a smaller group. Hopefully it comes to the US next year 🤞🏻
Six looks better judging by what i saw in the first half of this video.
I own a 5 anyway and content with it. S pen support is a must.
I am team narrow. I can't explain it but there's something about the Z Fold 6 that makes me love it. I know it's not the best camera, they should have given us a bigger zoom sensor at least, but still, it is good enough.
Unpopular opinion i know, but doesn't having a normal phone sized cover screen, that basically can handle all tasks so you don't have to unfold the phone, defeat the purpose of having a foldable?🤷
Exactly. I have the S24 Ultra now, and my ZF6 is coming 2mrw. So I'll have both phones, having the best of both worlds.
They can't put better cams in those small footprint of regular Fold6, they need bigger body footprint like SE to put high end cams
@SamGalaxyZ sure they can, Honor and almost all other China OEM's have done that this year with their foldables in a much slimmer body. And combined that with a 5000+ mAh battery even
@@pe_1980 mind you, Chinese foldables is slimmer but not narrow, it's wider unlike Fold 6.
@@pe_1980 compare any China foldables width vs Fold 6 width. You'll get what I mean.
Does the special edition has esim?
You will know it is a scam or not if they release Fold 7 with extra wide screen as Z Fold6 SE.
No, Samsung will not do this. Again we will have standard and ultra type of phone.
I wish Samsung, and maybe all the phone manufacturers would move to a bi-annual release cycle. We'd get better devices overall. It's takes a lot of time to really update a product in both hardware and software aspects. With an annual release these devices feel like little more than minimal updates and the consumers are being used as beta testers. This is proven correct because immediately after the release of every new device the online community is flooded with talk of issues and pending updates to address them. We've gotten so used to this cycle that it's become a part of the release of every device.
There is still a real obsession about cameras and photography. Spend the money, or save the money, by having a bigger display and include S pen and ensure DeX works well and that apps are properly designed to work in the larger screen!
Camera performance means nothing to me.
If u paying 2k for a phone u want great cameras , great battery with the fold factor
@masterkurs yes I agree. Battery doesn't last the day and if the cameras are reduced there could be reduced price tag.
If the SE was widely available and a reasonable cost, I would buy it in a second. It fixes all the issues that I don’t like about the 6, such as the width, the crease, the camera, and the thickness. I currently use a Note 20 Ultra, and I hardly ever use the S-Pen, so I wouldn't miss it. The camera hole on the inner display wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I would take those issues over the major drawbacks with the 6 in a heartbeat. Hopefully, Samsung will soon release it in more markets to make it more available. I realize they are testing the waters with this, but there is clearly a demand for it. Come on, Samsung!
Fold3,4, and now 6 owner here. The 6 isnt perfect. I still want a dockable pen, and cover screen writing, but beyond that? The cameras are plenty imo, the screen size is just about perfect as well. I dunno. The 6 is very slick. Don't feel scammed at all. Id told myself id wait until the fole offered the pen features i mentioned, but with that BF deal, a Fold6-512 for 550$ to my door with fold4 tradein. That was too good to pass up.
I think some of these changes are coming in Fold 7. I have to say I prefer the Fold 6 format for both one handed external screen operation and easier split screen typing g when open.
We got shafted. Gaffled. Finessed. Swindled. Duped. Hornswoggled. Whatever you wanna call it.
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Both missing features - UDC and Spen support - have one reason. Using the new FTG technology instead of UTG.
But I agree - in Fold7 lineup we could see the smaller Fold7 and bigger Fold7 Ultra (better cameras from S25 Ultra, Spen support). Globally.
My comment ... the Fold 6 is my last Samsung phone. I may have chosen the Fold 6 anyway, but I wasn't even given the choice.
Great review but... I will not jump on a fold until the Fold is like the FE and better battery, and s pen support. If it gets implemented inside with all these featues then take my money. But otherwise, the Ultra line up is for me. No compromise on anything pretty much when you think about it.
I would still choose my z fold 6. Has mor features. I do agree we should have gotten the best camera, even though the z fold 6 has a nice camera too. I guess you can't have it all with these businesses because that is how they make there money.
Im tired of my z fold 6 the narrow was nice in the beginning but i got tired of it fast and low resolution screen as far as PPI. I'm switching to the pixel 9 pro xl
If they get rid of spending functionality I'll be used. I'd still get the Fold 6 just for that reason. Waiting to see what they do with the 7.
Definitely hope Fold 7 has spen support on all screens
Maybe I belong to the minority that prefers the narrow formfactor for one handed use with s pen support on the open screen!
Had the fold 4, I hated it and returned it. Tried again with the 6, hoping the AI would be impressive, but its just a gimmick, however, I held on to the phone to try and give it a run as a daily driver over my pixel. I cant do it. Its too narrow and useless as a phone when closed. Difficult to open without feeling like youre going to break it. Im still using last years pixel and keeping the fold in a drawer as a backup.
But I like the narrow for easy 1 handed use. ✋️
Am super happy with my samsung z fold 6
Team narrow of the 6 but, i would still and also go wider just because im greedy for screen real estate like that lol
I take all my video and pictures using Zfold 3 the just got the zfold 6 during fantasy Fest key west Florida event.
All people been asking for is a folding S24 ultra.... so give us a folding S25 ultra next year....
Scam? So, when are we going to touch on this headline subject word: scam. Im not understanding what you mean by the word scam.
Fold 6 is better for me, I need that S Pen...and I like its narrow form factor.
Anybody who thinks they got ripped off really needs to rethink how and why they buy products. If you bought a Fold6, you got EXACTLY what you paid for. You didn't buy an "upgrade" option with it.
This is like thinking you're getting ripped off because the Fold7 will be out next year. Dumb.
I think yes, absolutely!!!
no they did scam us but just selective discrimination eg exynos vs snapdragon. honesty samsung needs total change of leadership eg tm roh & all need to.
TEAM WIDE. I WANT THAT SE.
Z fold 5 is better especially for the same update as z fold 6 i have a better raw edition camera update that tops all phones.
No, some ppl actually likes the form factor of the fold 6. If I wanted a bigger phone i would've gotten a s24 ultra..
110%
The SE version should have the Pencil in the chassis
this is proof why it is not worth buying new devices!
I do prefer Z Fold 6 with S pen
If you bought a Fold 6, you deserved to get ripped off.
WhT if it's your first foldable with stylus support?
Yes
Wtf, bro you lost us on this one. You don't get that there are "CASUALS" in the FOLD space...you feel scammed because of your enthusiasm toward tech.
I don't feel you understood the context of the video. I don't feel scammed at all
In the first part of the video when you list the advantages of the Fold 6 I thought that if Samsung had put the cameras from the S23 Ultra and removed that crease like in SE version, there would be no crying 😀It's not even so much about the 200 Mpx camera because it really needs a lot of light to take a great photo, but the macro mode is really cool in my opinion. Customers would get a slightly larger screen, greater camera capabilities and a smaller crease in the middle of the screen. And these are the changes I would require in the Fold 7 to think about changing my current smartphone.
OMG... not cool...I have the girl version (size) of the Fold 6 😮😮😮
Yea, im done with Samsung. I got my pixel 9 pro fold and holy shit fuck. It's amazing
I m enjoying my crafted black 👌👌👌
It is all about the $$$
2:10 it will be under display on fold 7 😂 how else would people tell the difference between a se and 7 😂 since they rushed the 7 as a se to stop the fold customer transition to google pixel fold pro 😂
How many people were going to switch over to a Google foldable? 3, maybe 4, and that's an over guess on my part... I believe. And if anyone leaves Samsung for Google, don't stop them, just let them be gone. They can take all of Google with them too. Free Samsung from have Google on our Samsung phones!!! I don't want a company that allows malware, riskware apps to be bought or freely downloaded onto a users/customers device. They don't care about our devices to begin with... and they're are snitches, too. With all the shit they allow in the Play store they don't clean it up, but take the time to rat on other companies for bullshit. Fuck Google.
Im a man I dont want a girly thin phone. Man be a man.
Let's we buy another Fold 6 (Fold 6.1) next year because we're dûmb lul
Me Watching this from my z fold 6 😢. The SE should've been the default Z Fold of 2024
I think you are spot on with this take.
Fold7 should be a mix between em
👍 👍 👍
Yes they did cuz
Basically same story with fold5 vs fold6
How? U mean by releasing the same phone just more expensive? Apple way ?
Perfectly happy with the 6.