Muslim apologist accidently ends up exposing the page 3 of Islam
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I'm a billion more worried about slave trade than about nudity. The way they humiliated women they enslaved is frustrating. Dehumanizing. It's not like it was some weird handshake from a weird culture. It's treating people like merchandise and it's disgusting. That's beyond "objectification". It's literally merchandizing. Despicable.
How the conversation moved from something as serious as slave trade and dehumanization of slaves, to an imaginary problem like appropriateness Punjabi humor and "toxic masculinity" is beyond me.
Fookin H, that's bonkers!
Urdu channel and Secular Jihadists drama
It's so obnoxious when someone gets outraged and lose their ability to have a conversation
You just witnessed how freedom of speech works. Harris and Nuriah, thank you for demonstration. Keep it up.
There is absolutely nothing spiritual but carnal gratification about Islam from the beginning to the end.
I AM SURPRISED to see Nuriah as not being able to contextualise jokes in their cultural settings.
On the other hand, her personal attack of Harris could be a continuation of Harris's mimicry of some males and she has taken it to far.
She wants to wear pants
@@takiyaazrin7562 Thank you for supporting the channel, mate. Every comment helps.
Each time Harris explained the context (as well as when the commenter brought up the ogling of male Bollywood celebrities), Nuriyah immediately changed goalposts and started pushing another point. Big yikes.
Feminazi
Why is Nuriyah jumping and harping on Haris? Splitting hairs instead of fighting the common enemy ......
Wish Nuriyah would aim her anger at Haqiqatjou in this way. He even referred to her as a “bimbo”. Felt for Harris while watching this.
It's the accusatory tone that breeds automatic defense. If your goal is to gain or reaffirm an ally who may possibly be misguided as you see it, this doesn't seem to be a successful way to do it. Something like Street Epistemology may be useful on both ends.
Exactly. The interrogator has cast the accused to be of bad faith. There's no way forward from there.
Sigh. Harris, you put up with a lot. From the beginning of this duo, I've seen you be scolded when you are supposed to be on the same team. To be exclusively on the receiving end of scolding and be expected to just agree, that asymmetry itself should raise eyebrows.
When I started this video I was just cynically waiting for the inevitable lecture.
Nouriah. Sissy man here. Harris' mockery is on point and it is funny when he says it. Harris is making fun of the Islamic hypocrites by describing or exaggerating their concepts. You asked what impact that has on male viewers. At no point am I laughing at women who are victims, or see it as permission to look down on women or take any adverse action/view. This is the success of Feminism.
Please stop turning it on him. Same team. You so casually discard all that you DO agree on and discount that as having no value. That's so important though to appreciate all the women's rights that you agree on that many women in the world are still lacking and would benefit from.
There are other points on which to criticize Harris, (perhaps you both need) to do better analysis of studies when building the narrative against Islam.
Harris has the right to personally prefer and admire masculine men. I'm speaking as an effeminate cis man.
As for what Harris says about sissy men. That view is not important enough for him to say more than a sentence about it when serious. Other than that, it's a tool to mock the so-called macho Muslims. I can live with that, I find it funny too. No harm will come to sissy men due to Harris's jokes. I'm sure when Harris meets me some day he won't be able to resist my friendly charm :) and most importantly he will not harm me.
We have to learn to live with our friends/allies who can align with us 95%, and find a way to negotiate the remaining 5%.
I understand you are an activist and idealist, and have to live your values and ideals. As much as you don't want to be lumped into the radical/hyper/toxic feminist label, unfortunately you have fallen into the now very familiar pattern of scolding, lecturing, humor control, language control and ultimately friendly fire.
A man puts up with a woman when he likes her. It’s obvious.
She’s just being a bit cranky about something he might’ve slipped up about. They’ll be fine.
That whole thing went sideways, honestly. And the only real issue in the entire thing is the merchandisation of actual human beings.
During the slave trade, in some country in Africa, people would judge each others by the price they would value if they were sold on the slave market. The ban against slavery have ended that practice. It's dehumanizing to evaluate someone's viability for such horror trade based on their muscular structure, or their resistance or the way they obey to orders, or based on beauty or the lack of it. People shouldn't be sold in the first place, not to, on top of it, being treated like bovines in an agricultural fair.
9:56 Some people are making dramas over insignificant things while they don't bother about truly grave issues. That's what Harris is trying to describe.
In the situation, the priority isn't whether manboobs or womanboobs are seen, but the fact that humans are bought and sold which is a grave issue.
Making it about the orbed thingies is diminishing the gravity of the graver issue.
It's like arguing over the colour of the nuke's shell. "It's pink, it's misrepresentative of people who likes pink" (Yeah but it's deadly, whatever the colour is)
Why does this video end up ending in a discussion of toxic masculinity ?
Nuriyah has left islam and criticized Harris for wanting success but has has no problem using Haris channel and success to promote herself.
Why does she not start her own channel let's see how successful she is ?
Harris has obviously helped her promote her views . I am personally not against islam or any religion but run as far as I can from women that want equality but feel entitled to tell men how they should behave.
Either you have equality or you don't .
You are not against islam?..you sir are an idiot?...so you support rape?,slavery? and racial discrimination?...and are against religious freedom?...because supporting islam means your for these backward,vile evil issues,..grow some balls and educate yourself before ever speaking in public again,...you useless idiot🙄
Harris channel doesn't have many people so if she was using someone for views it wouldn't be his .
What 😁 😁
@@roystonmarshall5027 If I am not against it does not mean that I support it. Just like I may not be against homosexuals does not mean that I am attracted to men.
You my friend are the idiot.
@jasonbourne8245 honestly true sometimes. When they say they want equal pay, that means they want 100% of the pay for doing less than 50% of the work.
Women will never be paid as much as men because the high paying jobs like working on oil rigs are repulsive to women.
That's why women are drawn to working comfy desk jobs where they don't have to work super hard.
I don't want to be manipulated again to think like these feminazis, to believe in gender wage gaps and all this men are x, men are y bullcrap.
Harris is absolutely right here. This kind of over reacting to petty things instead of talking about larger issues in society does push people away from modern femisnism
Well, that escalated quickly!
I can see why you guys no longer work with each other.
OMG! I did not expect this
I could be wrong, but Nuriyah might marry an alpha male any day over any one less. Hypocrisy is the bane of life.
after watching this now i know hyper feminism exist. other women hate them for just hating men being man, not for disrespecting women or doing something wrong to women.
Feminists have 1 million issues with men who want to support them while also not being apologetic about every aspect of masculinity, meanwhile the conversation on muslim se x slavery is ignored.
Welcome to western feminist bull shat
Nuriyah is getting angry and upset unnecessarily. Men have their own perspective and it should be allowed. You cannot take manliness away from men.
Harris did not make fun of women in any of his videos. He has a unique way of pointing out of female issues.
Nuriyah must chill. She is sounding like a crazed feminist.
She will be, if she hasn't.
It it not about “taking manliness away”; it’s about calling out toxic behavior.
This might be the beginning of end of duet.
Nariya is in attacking mode.
Wow... that was cringe, personally I wouldn't have uploaded that.
That is called accountability
@Jerry Louis with The Thickness cope
Damn. I hope you and Nuriyah remain friends, you both are amazing people.
When feminism becomes misandry, it's no better than misogyny.
There's no gender war that stands.
Opposite genders have to agree on their differences and move on, that's all.
Both sides have to make efforts because as resembling both are, both have particularities, plus each individual regardless is unique.
@jasonbourne8245 That's no laughing matter, haven't you read the other comment where I say it's despicable that they merchandize woman like vulgar cattle in an agricultural fair? It's not like she gave consent to be touched, she's enslaved, got her rights stripped off alongside with her dignity and is treated like someone who's not free.
That's way beyond any X matters or whether people have nice features or not.
IT's dehumanizing people, especially women like they were heifers in an agricultural fair.
The traders also judged enslaved males by their capacities, obedience and appearance. It's despicable. And that's akin to the workplace, but at least on the workplace you're being paid... Sometimes profitably if the market haven't been nerfed down to a slave wage.
@jasonbourne8245 you could make a h3ntai about buying Arab slaves. Just put Muhammad in a burqa and we good
@jasonbourne8245 Yet no one is traded. And it's dehumanizing to be rejected for a bad hair cut or a shorter arm or any of that shit. If you keep someone from having a life just because he was called "stinky" when he was a kid and you don't give that man a chance, don't complain when that man ends up so desperate that he steals your car and crash it into the bridge singing "I don't care, I love it".🐫
@jasonbourne8245 Honestly, after reflection, in the context of slavery, you'd probably wish you'd be ugly and that no one buys you because it's your freedom or whatever remains of it that is at stakes.
In the context of a legit marriage, out of all this madness and away from it, it's rather the contrary, you sure want to be chosen by someone you also chose to be with.
What did Arabs do to unsold slaves? I hope they didn't kill them.
Tbh i dont like Sunday Scoops because you cannot swear
How Nuriah is so woke today? Sounds like she VS world.
Great job guys keep it up.
Page 3 ended due to competition from porn on the internet.
It was nothing about sensibilities or morality.
Simply not true. See the girl guides campaign and MP Caroline Lucas tshirt in Parliament 'no to page 3'
England proved mares can pose.
I think it’s obvious that Nuriyah has a problem with some of jokes and behavior of Harris, Armin and Veedu in their streams. This may have been a final strawt and that’s why she got upset. I can imagine how she sees them as a ‘big boys club’. @Nuriyah Khan @Harris Sultan
Ohhhh snap, Harris walked right into that one! It's almost as if Nuriyah has been waiting to snap at Harris. Glimpses were seen during the sunday scoop and now it's just out there. Not saying Nuriyah is wrong about some of the things she's confronted him about.
Does anyone have a link to the full convo?
9:00 Men are men, women are women, the issue there is that humans are treated like merchandise.
There's nothing wrong about manboobs, and nothing wrong about womanboobs, but if someone is bought and sold and his value is established on the size of his manboobs, then there's a grave human rights issue.
@jasonbourne8245 I believe in God, not in religion.
If you believe slavery is good, then be my guest, I need to build a workforce and I don't have a spare buck over my mince budget to pay anyone.
Godlessnes doubled with lawlessness is a grave pitfall that makes many moral minds terrified by the idea some people would lose faith in God, whether he exists or not which is not the point.
I believe in the dignity and rights of every human beings and slavery is despicable, religion or not.
Book 24, Number 3916:
Narrated Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-'As:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If any slave entered into an agreement to buy his freedom for one hundred uqiyahs and he pays them all but ten, he remains a slave (until he pays the remaining ten); and if a slave entered into an agreement to purchase his freedom for one hundred dinars, and he pays them all but ten dinars, he remains a slave (until he pays the remaining ten).
Abu Dawud said: The narrator 'Abbas al-Jariri is not the same person. They said: It is a misunderstanding. He is some other narrator.
The remnants of war lost where this is the beginning of slavery wars
@@ujjain571 What a silly racket. Also kidnapping for a ransom was commonplace in islam.
Nuriyah left Islam but has converted to a new religion(4th wave feminism) with it's own blasphemy laws.
Nuria checked Harry in this stream. I hope they continue to stream together.
Just because someone is an atheist doesn’t mean they can’t be misogynistic
Its not misogynostic for a man to act like a man regardless of ideology. This modern day type of woke feminism is just as bad as ppl like Andrew Tate. Just the flip side of the same coin
This went way off the rails. I'm not sure how we went from discussing muslim treatment of non-muslim women to discussing masculinity/sissies(?) in the West. It's a weird segue.
Not to mention that Western society is the least misogynist and most feminist (not necessarily in a good way) society to ever exist.
Yup, woke theorists act like every non-western culture is so feminist and inspiring, when they are pretty much all hellholes for women compared to the west.
There’s still plenty of misogyny in the west though.
@@BrillGirl82 examples?
@@timonalexandr151 are you for real?? I find a strong correlation between right-wing politics and misogyny (my own dad was a glaring example of this when he was alive) and politics in general is chock full of misogyny. Religion too. Misogyny is well and alive. Sure, we’ve seen some improvements, but the patriarchy is kicking and screaming at the changes and misogyny isn’t going away anytime soon.
@@ThePeacefulIsWillingTo see my response to Timon.
This was just sad.
Totally agree with you Harris. You have 100% right to express yourself just the way you are. World is a better place when people are able show the beauty of their masculine and feminine side.
And yes not everyone can handle joke and it's fine.
Nah. Will Smith and wokes should be banned
She's not talking nonsense.
What specifically?
'being achievement oriented makes you andrew tate'
She is talking nonsense just as you.
8:28 Absolutely Gold
Harris Sultan I m fan of him n he gives you the real facts about reality on different lines on daily bases of life that we live.
When Nuriya was on the channel, she was typically the more reasonable whenever there were the few disagreements.......
what. the. Hell. Happened??? No disrespect, but she sounds completely unhinged in this small sample. It's like she was forcing Harris into a box that doesn't necessarily represent his view, but is the precise box that the attack that she wants to get off of her chest is tailored to go after.
Nuriya is expecting too much . I am supporting you Harris Sultan
What's going on? Is there a fallout between Harris and Nuriyah? ☹️
Urdu channel joke
Noooo... she is spanking harris for being a jerk! Jokes can only go so far. ...
A quarrel like this is what the real bad guys love!
this is great insight
The woman is manipulative she kept over talking while the man is talking in future use the mute button for an allowed Q&A
Lol, Harris under the spotlight! 😬😅
She got PMS
Again, I hope our dear Nuriyah that we all appreciate a lot just finds balance between understanding her side of the gender coin, and understanding the flip side of the same coin.
Both misogyny and misandry are toxic, not one or the other, but both.
And it's subject of engendering hurricanes whereas everything is not misogyny, but insisting on making everything about it might be a sign of misandry.
i m lost what exactly triggered nuriyah. i heard it twice i dont get it
I start hearing all kind of ways now how nuriya misinterpretates harris. Or hears somethings that are not there
Why is Nuriyah being so provocative?
Harris made jokes and comments about masculinity and new age feminism that may have rubbed Nuryiah the wrong way. Nothing too serious, but the perceived potential that harris is even remotely sympathetic of toxic masculine culture has nonetheless put her on high alert.
@@TheBlaze4000 I know. Joking normally relieves tension and we don't always think before speaking. But she knows he always supports women
What is going on with Nuriyah?
Go Nuriyah
Harrisjee, In india also page 3 is used that way (must have been inspired by UK🤣🤣🤣🤣)
👏😐
4:30 very sad
8:00 oh dear...
16:10 what did he say that was wrong
17:50 damn.
19:50 does Nuriyah think Harris doesn't respect the rights of women and men to be who they want to be without infringing on others rights.
It's clear that Nooriyah has some problem with Haris. She kept all her feminist views to herself when she was sharing UA-cam channel with Haris and agreed with him in everything he said. This shows she is Janus faced. Haris, move on..
You know, there's a happy medium between Islam and radical feminism. I'd say Harris is pretty much there. Even though I disagree with him on a lot, the way he expresses himself is fine.
Hmm... Rewatching right now so I can understand what's going on better... It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation where if you love women, you're a misogynist, but if you don't, you're also a misofynist... So you've got a be bittersweet like McDonalds' nuggets sauce?
😂🤣🤣😂🤣😂 harris in trouble
Was this Nuriya's sister?
Nuriyah and Harris working relationship has gone toxic. 😢😢😭😭💔💔💔
It has been for a while, it’s just becoming more obvious at this point.
Harris and Nuriyah are probably never going to read this but my message to both of you,
I don't think Harris is as problematic as Andrew Tate or even near that(Harris might share the wish to be successful but not at the cost of everything), but the way he presents himself and deals with certain issues is really easy to misinterpret. If you take a really dark subject, and keep talking about that casually or regularly and also the people who defend this dark action, you are eventually going to be somewhat desensitized to it(not necessarily in a sense that you will become okay with it or less willing to combat it, but in a sense that it would shock you less, prevent you going to the same depth to create a reaction unless maybe a specific incident is bought up) and you might lean more into the aspect of absurdity of people defending it, might find some humor in that absurdity(anger can also be a reaction but the focus shifted from the issue to defenders), I think Harris sometimes leans into the absurdity aspect way too much, looses himself there a little, finds new ways to make fun of it, while not doing any justice to the graveness of the matter he is dealing with, even though he bought that up too. But however because I think he can sometimes tone down a little, approach a subject matter more carefully, doesn’t mean I also think he thinks what Arabs practiced was in any way right, that was an acceptable form of luxury or women should be owned, men should act like masters which Andrew Tate and Daniel Pikachu sometimes implies or it is justified to hold them in high numbers as accessories or objects. Harris should also understand some jokes might be out of date(you can't call them problematic and think it is okay to keep using them or enjoying them at the same time, sometimes you have to come with better jokes that doesn’t punch down on the matter of consent or after spilling it clarify it was out of line but this is not your view), otherwise you would lose audience who have better sensibility than you(people close to the average).
Harris is also wrong in the approach of pushing back against misandrism, you should talk about the flaws of it on it's own basis, like if there were less incels would you say that I will tolerate misandrism?! Harris can also point out why a certain claim was misandrist, which also helps his position. And most of the incels are incels because they have been exposed to mysogynist ideas, they might have been fear mongered a little about misandrism, but why would return to misogyny as the default place? Some women are too hard on any man choosing to harmlessly be a little masculine, or men in general, doesn’t really take a somewhat sensible person to the place of women were better in the kitchen, they are incapable of being outside or doing anything right.
Nuriyah could have been more focused I think and eliminated some of the weaker arguments. She should have come more prepared while debating this publicly. You have much better sensibility than Harris I give you that but you can debate in a more organized way and reduce creating confusion. I think you know Harris is better than this, saying he and Andrew Tate would be best buds was pointless.
Note: I am not saying Harris should completely change his approach, stop having fun, but sometimes it is okay to be more selective of topic, or get the correct tone for the time.
@@minhazhimu136I read your comment. You actually made a very good point. I’ll speak about it in tonight’s stream.
@@HarrisSultanAtheist I watched you and Nuriyah's other video as well. You did really well there, explained your position and boundaries, you were open to criticism to your position and willing to provide evidence for your claims. Nuriyah on the other hand was quite childish I would say, she was struggling to accept even the possibility she might be wrong or her portrayal of you might be wrong, she didn’t ever say she was sorry or wrong about you explicitly and just jumped to the next thing she could find(from the issue of sexism to you saying there is only one way to be man, even though you were just talking in the popular societal idea of men), she compared you to mullahs who have no evidence to back up their claims even though you said you would dm her your evidence which she can evaluate. Whether you are a girl or a guy a little bit of humbleness doesn’t make you a smaller or weaker person. On the contrary it shows maturity or exposes to others you can see the bigger picture. I hope she evaluates her approach. Not every conversation has to be a boxing match with winner or loser.
This video though kind of makes a case for how cognition impacts instinct or not all members of a sex have the same instinct. Our Biology teacher said women tend to care about social relationship, are less competitive than men, in that video Nuriyah was more competitive than you(in the match of winning) while your public image was in trial, she was not trying to be intellectual or whatever. Or you are being more competitive with a different goal but that still changed the outcome to something less expected.
Note: This is my view btw, not necessarily accurate
That is why Muhammad was punished for two years with a full of pain
Harris, Nuriyah has a point. But because she likes you personally she has a hard time not getting emotional, which gets in the way of her argumentation. Talk to her face to face and try to listen.
Nah. Will Smith and wokes should be banned
Exactly… he needs to try to actually hear and understand what she’s saying. He’s too defensive.
@@BrillGirl82 maybe you should explain to me what she was saying
I really hope the ex-muslim community doesn't splinter along the same lines the, then predominately ex-christian, atheist community did.
So the woman speaking is being serious? Omg! I thought she was joking!
i don't believe the woman's activism doesn't want to aim for desired result. which is any other language desired result is considered success.
"Do you take advantage of women, Harris?" 😂 "Do not laugh!!! It's not funny!!! Deeply problematic!!!"
Nuriyah is the ayatollah of radical feminism. She even said "I swear to God".
IDK why people are making such a drama over healthy body parts. That's more whimsical than rational.
lol ikr
I’ll have whatever nuriyahs on 🍷
That lady needs a chill pill
Harris may have said things that were bad.
My God, are these two married? Sounds like a useless argument that couples have when the lady is on her monthly.
No Nooria, you have not fallen in with the wrong crowd. Woman objectify men just as much.
wtf is wrong is with this woman nooria?
She pretended to be non-toxic till few weeks ago. Now her true self came out.
Thinks she's just out for blood now. I think her opinion of men comes from the trauma of her marriage and history with men, maybe. But I think it was kinda disappointing that she can't see beyond the jokes and -isms even for a friend who helped her.
Trying to be funny has nothing to do with being offensive unless it's deliberate. Check out Patrice o Neal's video where he schools this reporter about how offensive jokes are funny and have nothing to do with the real tragedy.
We are in 21st century, we are so advance in science &technology. Thanks to West & there research and hardwork. But when it comes to religion it is so stupid to talk in this
century this stupidity, we have to travel back in ancient times of 14th century. Utter stupidity. Asli mee we should have been without any religion and only Insaniyat our
business of living. Then we have been on equal terms of Sci./Technology. in this presernt times.! So far it is our utter Failure. !
Nooriya behaving like a silly 😮
Nooriyah has a point mate.
That women is a super feminist she sounds annoying
I agree with NK that they do get a bit sexist sometimes when it's him and the guys... I do wanna also say though, I hope not, but also think she's kinda falling into a trap a bit of a feminist school of thought which I don't subscribe to that tries to almost make women into ppl tht are totally nonsexual.. but also I also mostly agreed with everything she said here and I'm proud of her. Also it disturbed me when he said there's way worse guys the him out there... Just bc something or someone is worse doesn't mean we can't critique anything . I'm with her here completely
Yes, I think she was reacting to their show which I also find sexist and don't listen as much when they are all on at the same time .
I actually want to understand what constitutes as misogynist or sexist. I’ll be doing the show tonight, you guys are welcome to come and share your thoughts.
I promise I’ll be respectful and listen what you have to say.
Big Sister is watching you !
Wow! Andrew Tate! He really said that. Reason why I would never subscribe
Please Nuriyah, don't become like Zarna Joshi.
Hold up, gotta stick up for Harris here because there are ppl who talk about how prudish some ppl are when it comes to nudity. We have ppl in the US who make complaints & comparisons about the "Puritans" & differences between whats allowed on tv here & in Europe. Ppl from nudist colonies & that frequent nude beaches would I imagine make the same statement Harris has here. The women were slaves so of course they had no choice of anything. And Im not with that "toxic masculinity" bs straight men are a visual species it doesnt mean they're all barbarians or doing something wrong
02:23.....miss nuriyah is absolutely right...
Anyway both of you guys are just amazing, at times hilarious.
Keep it up.....
Nah. Will Smith and wokes should be banned
Nuriah calm down. Problematic, toxic,... Calm down. Woman objectify too. And it's not taken seriously. You're talking to Haris in a really condescending way.
Woman STOP interrupting!!!
He needs to quit interrupting too.
@@BrillGirl82 IMO, it is annoying when one is trying to listen.
I don’t like the videos where you just argue with that woman.
best episode hhahahahaha
The comments section is sad to read. People argue and disagree, challenge each other and hopefully grow in the process.
We all need to be self critical and critical of each other. Otherwise we end up in echo chambers and cults.
We should never let fazists, mysognists and mysandarists set the standards.
This video is showing how much work we need to do to move away from the religious bs we grew up in. Recognise n shed its remnants that r in us..
hmmm
And so people take your advice and argue and disagree, challenge each other... and usually get cancelled and de-platformed. Which I suppose could be what you mean by the third paragraph.
@@rexsceleratorum1632 so many ppl are leaving dogmas in the trash because they have dificult conversations. Dificult conversations are a must for progress.
Only thing that shud be cancelled is threats of violence.
The person constantly interrupting is really annoying - and quite rude as well. Very off-putting.
I don't know what is she arguing about but she makes no sense to me at all
Here the complete inconsistency of the Woke feminism that Nuriah clearly hasn't thought through comes to the fore. Though perhaps you wouldn't appreciate it Harris you are standing for the "Imagio Deo" here, innate to us all with the specific and unchangeable identity God gave us as men and women, woe to those who live in denial of it. You managed to get Nuriah to show her identity at one point. ALso a useful exchange on how difficult it is for the human heart to discern our own motivations. Only our Creator can show us that -- Jeremiah 17:9.
Best wishes -- and to Nuriah too!
The two of you were talking over each other it was a waste of time for me to listen.
Nuriya.... Just get lost, go away
Wow. Noriya is so fed up of Harris after all these years. She has lost all respect for him- it’s in her tone… it seems she can’t stand him which makes sense since he speaks over her all the time and gives little weight to her opinions all these years too.
Wow @SamIsmail - you’re extremely sharp and observant. Thank you for reading between the lines on this one and understanding where all this could have come from. And yes, as you rightly mentioned, for a myriad of reasons, including the ones you listed above, I have lost a lot of respect for him. Thank you for being insightful and not branding me all ‘radicalised’ as most people in the comments seem to have done, without knowing the entirety or gravity of the situation both on and off air.
@@HolyHumanist
Aww Nuriya I have been a fan of you both for over 2 years now even before Harris had the debate with Daniel Haqiqathou .
You both disagreed on something which I feel is fine . But one should not lose respect over the other . There should always be a common ground in this especially with all your works you have done in the past .
I know you Nuriya but you don't know me .
You are a good person with a good heart for yourself and the countless women around the world suffering in misery especially within islamic/patriarchal societies .
I just feel Harris sometimes makes jokes , but he isn't a person that supports the worst for women.
I hope your friendship don't get bitter .
It will be painful to me .
@@HolyHumanist Men and women are different. Tbh, Sunday Scoops were a bit boring because you cannot swear.
Live and let live.
@@HolyHumanist Nuriyah, in the past I've got the vibe that Harris tries to flirt a little too much with women - that is his personal failing and it possibly reflects poorly in some of his interactions with people. I would not be surprised if he's crossed a line with you in the past.
That said, I'm sorry this session is a prime example of how feminists in the west are busy fighting men who may want to help them instead of the ones that want them to be literally enslaved - in this context harris represents people like us who see masculinity as not necessarily toxic - who value stoicism and the ability to make and take jokes on ourselves and others - in reality harris's issues could go far beyond what was on display today because ultimately he was raised on a particular environment where intellectual development is stifled. Far too women after reading modern feminist literature just end up deciding that the problem ultimately is masculinity as a whole - as it has no redeeming qualities - and in this case that being achievement oriented makes you andrew tate.
@@AKumar-co7oe masculinity is not inherently toxic; it’s the abuse of masculinity that is.
jhoota H for haris....H for haramkhor
She has a really high opinion of herself.
No wonder people like Andrew Tate exist.
Is toxic feminism a thing?
@jasonbourne8245 I don't think either are sad they don't come across as sad at all. Pleased they left a cult. But you can be arrogant, happy and relieved to have escaped a cult all at the same time.
Yeah the point of being EX Muslim is to break away from the toxic beliefs. If you keep them, then you should have just stayed in Islam.
Maybe she's just broken on the inside. Maybe she needs more time to recover.
@@yarnybart5911 true
@@es-rh8oo I think she may just have some resentment simmering under the surface and even now think all men are misogynistic just because they don't buy into the 'toxic masculinity' trope. I also think she resents some of the conversations they had when they used to do videos together.
@jasonbourne8245 Cults have cult leaders. There's no cult leader of feminism.
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