Trying to eliminate the algae on our pond.
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- It has been hot and dry and our pond is slowly building up moss and algae. It is now so bad that we can't fish from the bank. Si I am going to try to clean up the pond, get rid of the moss, and try to prevent the algae from growing. We are going to treat the worst areas with copper sulfate. Which will make an algeacide and kill the moss. Then we are going to use blue pond dye to inhibit the growth of algae. Hopefully this will keep the old clean and algae free.
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The copper sulfate is certified organic, so it can be used used in organic food production. When added to the pond it acts like an algeacide. It is also commonly used in farming as a fungicide. I hope you enjoy the video.
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I wouldn’t do that to the area I steward.Its no different from throwing industrial waste into the dam.i am sure it’s illegal in my country anyway.
@@sunandthesoil3736 where's that, Nannystan?
Worried 😟 this method would kill good things
Aquascapes has that copper ionizer that the CAC's use all over the pond world. Of course that's for the smaller ponds and rec ponds. But some copper isn't bad. They did fix up a couple of large ponds, but it costs. Their videos or products might have something to help though. I'd love to have one someday.
The problem is not the algae. Algae is the symptom or outcome of high nutrient load. You feed ducks and fish and they poop. There is no plant life to absorb and use all of that nutrient. In addition, you feed your lawn which invariably will run off into the water. In the absence of fresh clean water being added by an active stream or heavy rain, the heavy nutrient load will
overwhelm the system and cause oxygen to be depleted. Cooper sulfate has its uses but never in an aquatic system because copper is lethal to the beneficial biological life that should help break down all that nutrient into safer components (which still need to be dealt with with biological microscopic life and lots and lots of aquatic plants.
See if you can rig up a device that floats which has some kind of air-driven propeller that spins in the wind (a cup anemometer). There should be some kind of “oars” that spin at the surface of the water. At least this is one way of keeping the surface of the water moving and getting water surface oxygen to dissolve in the water.
Keep all water moving clockwise or counter clockwise to create a current. All in the same direction.
Thank you for putting this out there.
I agree with a lot of the other comments... a fountain would be both functional and aesthetically pleasing... A windmill based pump setup would actually look nice on the homestead and cheap on the electric bill. Old/used windmills (mini ones) are pretty easy to find and hooking it up to an old dirty water pump would get you started.
If aeration of the pond is too expensive, maybe hooking a strong water pump to a large sprinkler would imitate the effect of rain. Hang the intake hose on a float so that it takes in water above the bottom of your pond. I think the cost would be less than the aeration installation you mentioned. I hope that way you could avoid using chemicals and colors that have an effect on more than just the algae and water plants.
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Go to stony Ridge farmers channel he just put fish in his pond that eat grass and algae check it out
an air pump, solar powered, is a much more effective way to control the algae and moss. I have a lake that covers 8 acres and is quiet deep. I use 3 such pumps and have not had any algae grow at all, in 3 years
which pump system do you use/ would recomend?
@@Rizzobbb Keeton Solar Aeration
I mean the fact that its 8 acres and deep is doing more for algae than aeration is.
Here in the UK we use large bales of Barley straw in the early Spring and this helps to prevent algae
Same here in Georgia, USA. Barley straw and a $500 septic aerator pump kit keeps my pond clean and clear. No chemicals or die necessary. The barley straw produces hydrogen peroxide at a slow rate and low concentration that kills algae but doesn’t harm fish or other plants.
So true..
Yes what happens the Daphnia are small bugs grow that eat the algae love 💕 living in the barley straw. Look up how it all works. This is the best method.
i have a lake about 1 mile long by half mile wide i use a floating boom to collect the algae, we drag it behind two boats to collect it up and remove and burn it...
i also have 4 floating solar powered fountains, besides a mains power fountain close to the house for show, we hardly have any problem with algae now you just need to aerate the water...
Aerate has worked for me. wind pump.
I like your suggestions & was thinking the same as well. Needs to be aerated with some fountains etc.
Great video! It's a constant battle trying to keep that algae away!
Barley bales or barley pellets are what you need to use. Just place whole bales in the pond, they will eventually sink and they release a chemical that prevents algae growth, the pellets are usually available at farm supply stores and tend to work a bit faster but the bales last longer. i have used these in my koi pond for years with great results.
So I've read that you can take a bale of Barley straw to help control algae. May be an alternative to any chemicals once you have the algae in check.
Add some grass carp to your lake. These fish will keep algae under control. We tried everything and nothing worked until “grass carp”
Suggestion: The real problem is that your pond is stagnating and water isn’t moving and you realize and already explained that. Striking the right balance of chemicals in an active pond is not an easy task and you run the risk of damaging the natural Eco bio-system of the pond and using dyes just masks the real problem that needs to be fixed. Suggest you look into Aeration Systems and invest in a Windmill driven Aeration System to reduce the Algae, with the size of your pond you may need to invest in multiple aeration heads but they run off a single windmill.
Y'all should build a skimmer and pump it to a modified manure spreader that can let the water leech out to return to the pond and you can compost the solids left behind. Or, our BIOX unit at work has what they call an SDF... Sludge Dewatering Facility... Basically we squeeze the solids out of the water/ sludge... it's excellent compost. Or, get an Aeration Windmill or a fountain that circulates back to the pond... LOL Had to laugh... You have that dye all up your arm
Well. I’ve put two of those blue dye bottles within the past few months and does nothing ! I just ordered sulfate
If you skim the moss around the edge's and compost it you will have garden gold!
I liked your idea little missy
Melissa, which state are you in? Ga here
Add reeds, lillys and other aquatic plants those will consume the nutrients in the pond and reduce algae growth.
I was looking for this comment
Cattails in the shallow end & other native aquatics to remove excess nutrients.
There are pond management folks at the extension services.
& tracking tool for drought conditions
droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?Midwest
tips & courses from penn state :extension.psu.edu/pond-management-for-rural-and-farm-pond-owners
large manual
www.ifishillinois.org/publications/Lake_Management.pdf
this does mention the sterile grass carp & small section on chemical & biological methods for unwanted algae growth.
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Spot on. A good heavy planting of cattails in the shallow end as well as floating lilies around the edges will take care of 90% of algae growth. Not to mention it adds a ton of hiding space for smaller fish.
In UK we use barley straw to help control algae in ponds. Not instant but slowly as it decomposes.
Copper Sulfate ( CuSO4) is a compound as salt. I hate people saying chemicals. Even water (H2O) is a compound of 1 molecule of water contains 2 atoms of Hydrogen ang 1 atom of Oxygen.
Copper sulfate may be “organic” but it’s a heavy metal. You’re problem is too many nutrients. Stop mowing up to the edge and put a berm between your leech field and the pond.
WE would put bales of hay in our pond not to many 4 or 5 it took care of the problem.
Small square bales or large round bales?
Tex Farmer looking at other comments you should google search barley straw for algae control, sounds like that’s the solution.
That sounds like dumping more nutrients into the pond, adding to the problem rather than taking away from the problem
@@micah_lee MICAH, I just know it works
@@TexFarmer we used the square bales.
Suggestion: you need a water fountain w/pump circulate the stagnant water. You might want put some catfish in pond. Love your video
Weed grows because the water is loaded with nitrate fertilizer, caused by no water changes from lack of rain. Rotting vegetation causes nitrates to build up in the water. Pull out the dead vegetation, and change out the polluted water. You have a giant aquarium holding a lot of pooping fish that is nitrifying the water. The P/H is probably very acid, so, you may have to treat the pond with limestone to balance it. The only practical way to remove nitrates is by doing water changes. A lot of water.
If you put a bale or two of barley straw in the pond in early spring, it has a natural algae inhibitor.
Movement of the water with the aid of a pump helps to keep algae under control as in fish tanks, it also keeps it oxygenated. Hope you get it under control one way or another.
I had a algae problem on my pond and tried the dyes and copper sulfate and it was an ongoing battle until finally I built a pond aeration system. Not trying to plug my videos but I have a video series of it on my channel if it might be of help to you. My system cost me $590 to build, but my pond is smaller than yours. If you can't run power to your pond then solar is another option to run the aerator pump.
Gave you a sub, looking to replace a couple of channels that have pissed me off LOL Not this one
Buy a dozen bales of Barley straw! Google it.
I 2nd the Barley straw it does work
Where would one find these to purchase?
Barley straw does not kill existing algae, but it inhibits the new growth of algae., Barley straw will also promote aquatic weed growth to nuisance levels. what kills it is aeration, witch is cheap, if you dont buy what pond sales people try to tell you all you need to buy, it bs,, a $500 pump works great
Arnold Romppai Aeration is a “good fix” kind of like chemicals (although aeration is much much better than chemicals) but i’d rather see him use what nature uses to suck up the nutrient load: Plants
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I put 4 grass carp in my pond and it has been working great for the past few years.
That’s what I did 15 years ago and haven’t had algae since. I gave him the same recommendation up above and I can’t believe your the only other one I’ve seen say this and everybody else wants to fill the pond with straw bales and chemicals etc, unbelievable!! Just needs the right balance of proper fish and then God and Mother Nature will take care of it.
And if he will put 4 carp in there and they don’t work then I will send him his money back!! It’s the easiest and cheapest solution of them all, but it actually works!!!
Take care Larry
@@1982MCI "They eat up to three times their own body weight daily !" I agree with you ! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_carp
I don't know what I'm the most jealous up in this video, the rain or the pond 😂😂
Water movement would help.....what's the water source??? Where is the drain?? What kind of aquatic life you have??...crayfish, minnows??...we used to have a farmer near by that had barley, we would get a few bails and drive spikes or those metal t-posts in them and hold them in place.....your pond might need 5 to 7 bails....it's something to do with the enzymes in the barley that help keep algae from getting out of hand....and it's a nice hiding spot for the young fish as well.... but water flow / movement would help a lot as well!
My neighbor cleaned all the growth around his pond and then added river rock around the banks. He then added 2 solar fountains that float to keep the water churning. He has used hay in the past but it seemed he still had the problem a month later. This seemed to do the trick.
I think your pond is looking great!
Aeration and grass carp!!
If you install solar aerators in 2-3 places, your pond and fish will get plenty oxygen and water movement.
You’ll get almost no algae buildup.
So we had a large pond growing up (not sure exactly how big, similar in size to yours though). We handled the algae in a different kind of way. One thing is we had a lot of aquatic plants, not sure if that helped, but my mother would put a yard sprinkler on this wooden float we had and would water the pond. It was that back and forth type of sprinkler, not sure what its called, but it seemed to work. I remember some algae, but nothing like you have. Maybe you can try that?
Aquatic plants are really great at using the nutrients and a good current and flow helps a lot to keep it from growing. This is the best way to go about it! Also algae is good for the pond.
You waited too long to treat the pond and if the water gets warm there will be a major fish kill from the decaying moss. Treat it in March and it will require less chemical. Do it late and you will need to aerate to save the fish. Diquat is probably the cheapest chemical that will kill the algae and weeds.
I've treated several ponds. It's expensive and you have to be very careful or you will kill the pond. You have to do it in stages.
We have a 27-acre pond at our club with the same problem and grass carp did the trick for us.
Do you know what causes the algae? I've heard fertilizer or maybe even manure that's spread can cause it, if its not just a natural occurence.
All ponds get some which is beneficial, it's just when there's imbalance that it's a problem - some combination of nitrogen run off (too much fertiliser), not enough plants to absorb that, not enough fish and other things eating it, not enough aeration... fix the imbalance, not the result!
S Roberts Great comment!
We had the same problem in our pond and we tried everything the only way we got it to stay clear was we added small floating solar fountains I bought them off eBay and they weren’t to expensive I got a couple that have colored lights that come on at night real pretty
Note: it must be barley straw not oat, wheat or rye. Place the bales in the water in early spring ideally where the water enters the pond. A few grass carp will also help as will water aeration. it does not have to be a fountain style you could use aeration stones (Soap stones?) sunk on the bottom attached to a plastic pipe fed from a compressor.
In the UK we use barley straw to keep our ponds clear i would think 5 bales should do it remember to stake them with a long tether to the bank , your problem will go away
Where is the nitrogen excess coming from? Usually it is from fertilizer or manure. Are you fertilizing your lawn / hayfield? Does the goat and chicken pens runoff drain into the pond?
If I am correct and you have a small stream that feeds the lake, pore it in at the upper end. The current will mix it fast and carry it down into the lake. It may even last longer and do a better job.
Yes areation is going to the expensive route but I think it is probably the best long term option. You won't be spending days trying to irradicate a bloom. It may be worth it saving your own time. Maybe there are dome DIY versions that won't be so expensive.
You have to circulate the water. Solar fountains. Try to avoid Algecide. Also watch out for field fertilizer run off. Copper sulfide is an algecide. Do you have an extension service officer in your area. They are usually a great resource.
Looks like you have a high nitrogen run off up stream, or could just be years of organic material settling in the shallow end, not sure if there is a safe way to counter act that.
As I don’t know anything about a pond,I will just say ,I know you will work it all out, so it won’t interfere with Rebecca’s fishing. Let us know what is going on with your garden and Apple tree’s. Hope you are getting rain by now.God bless and take care.
What was the outcome with the apple tree
Aerator will help kill off algae
Kills me every time you throw your pocket knife down to the ground instead of back into your pocket.
I was thinking the same thing. Cringed every time
It had die on it from opening the lid (it need it to be rinsed first)
Check with outdoors with jimmy Houston. He uses a some type of fertilizer that isexcellent for pond. CM in Louisiana
I had the same problem with one of my ponds. I put three "Grass Carp" that I got at my local feed store. These Carp had been given a shot to make them sterile so as not to reproduce in the pond. They literally cleaned up my pond and in doing so they got to very big (30 lbs each).
Carp can produce problems of their own and are not naturalized and won’t help the ecosystem out as much as plants would. Which create habitats and make the pond more beautiful
micah_lee these carp do not produce any other issues and are part of the natural eco system. Do the research on them and find out. I have been using the for 15 years and you’d be hard pressed to find a more beautiful pond than what I have. Before you worry about a beautiful pond tho you need to worry about a healthy pond cause if you don’t have a healthy pond then you may as well pull the drain plug and drain it cause an unhealthy pond will never be beautiful
I love your videos! I am learning so much and having so much fun at the same time! You and some others farmers got me to get a baling business in central Iowa and I am baling 11,000 this fall with old equipment! Mind you I am only 12 year old. I don’t know if this is a thing but take like a big sweep or broom and just get it to one side and then did it out? Also, will the stuff you are using dissolve the moss or haha kill it?
You are 12 years old? Awesome kiddo you are going places. Hats off to your motivation.
HI we use barley straw here in the uk for getting rid of algae seems to work in trout ponds....worth a try.
Exactly! Do this! There are several university studies that show barley straw will stop new algae growth, but will not kill current algae.
Using barley straw will work well. However, you must be very sure that the source field of the barley is free of pesticides and invasive weed species, else you introduce these into your system!😢
Get a pump to aerate that pond. It does two things: (1) take care of your algae problem due to the lack of oxygen, and (2) the constant "reverberation/waves" reduces the problem of mosquito laying larvae.
Moss grows on rocks, not on water. Algae grows in/on water. Have you considered scooping this stuff out and composting it to enrich your soil? You can also get solar-powered floating pond oxygenator devices. I am somewhat concerned with your eagerness to throw chemicals at everything. May be that's just my misinterpretation.
Have this on my pond .I think it is due to the hot weather.had a big fish kill last year
I had brought up aeration when he wanted to keep pond open for his ducks a few years ago. So of it is run off from farm fields and the fertilizer they use
Just because it’s organic does not mean it isn’t dangerous.
Swim in there and come out looking like an Avatar 😆
What's the water source for your pond? Runoff? Spring?...
aeration... aeration.. aeration
Look into trying to collect the algae and feed to the livestock. I believe it adds additional nourishment. May reduce feed cost?
Thanks I been curious about how to take care of a pond, I think it turned out great with very minimal expense. They should come up with an adjustable overflow so you skim the top of the water 🤔
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I saw this idea, and knowing you figured you could do this so much, BIGGER and with rope and pulleys, you and using your two or just one of your tractors to pull the full half pond width or whole ponds skimmer towards the dam.. and condense the Duckweed towards your overflow outlet pipes and also set up a 55 gal. barrel skimmer like your 5 gal bucket skimmer to pump this weed over the dam and into the down stream side of your drainage pipe., or collect it with your NOW MONSTER SIZED WEED REMOVAL SYSTEM TO BE SPREAD WITH YOUR MANURE SPREADER ON YOUR FIELD... Here is a link to a great skimmer that I know you can modify BIGGER for your pond.
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So you won't be catching any BLUE BASS? lol
moss in a pond lol its algae and duck weed
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nITRATES, NITRATES NITRATES Water changes. The rain diluted it enough to slow the growth, So, a small water supply constantly draining out the pollution should fix problem.
Rain water contains hydrogen peroxide that clears up the pond water, but it also may contain a lot of nutrient that will promote algae growth few days later
Airiate the pond move a lot of water spray it in the air
A solar pump (or 2) mounted on a post (or posts) set in the pond so it pumps a jet of water up that then falls back into your pond will oxygenate the water well when the sun is shining. These pumps are inexpensive to buy now and cost nothing to run.
Evan,,been in the pet industry for last 40 yrs,suggestion only: you are correct with the low oxygen in pond,,,might think about adding a circulating pump and adding a fountain or waterfall to pond...would add that much needed oxygen,,,movement in water for healthier fish and take care of algae problem....plus also g8ve the ducks that safe open water during winter mths....can even get solar driven pumps....pond does look great...Neal
getting a few grass carp should help over time
PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!!! Our pond is dying due to having that dang fish in it.
@@cathyblasco4497 - should have used the sterile ones!
I use both products, though I'd like to get some kind of solar aeration system so I don't need the copper sulfate (which I rarely use as it is). There are pond dye packets that I prefer over the liquid. I just chuck a couple packs out near the center of my pond each month--no mess.
If you ever have problems with low oxygen/low water in that pond, you may just ask the local fire department if they want to train at your pond. We had this last year with the local fishing club. The summer was really hot, so they had really low water and low oxygen, so one engine dumped a few thousend liters of water in the pond and the other engine cycled the water so that oxygen could get into the pond. Was a really good training! Our engines are small compared to US engines and a lot of german engines too (engine 1 fits 750L of water, engine 2 isn't even an engine anymore, but a vehicle that transports a lot of stuff for rescuing animals but it has pump at the front as it once was an engine), so engine 1 had to go back and forth, wich you also have to do with wildfires, and with engine two we could build some monitors etc. I live in germany, though, so your fire department may not be allowed to do this due to legal reasons...
I built a bubbler system for like $100, how do you figure $6k??? Also get the surface moving with a waterfall or fountain, and get some plants growing my guy. You have a lot of problems that can be solved with no chemicals, stop putting band aids on it and solve the issues.
Get grass carp!
in denmark we use a bale of barley straw . it should take care of it :)
Yep!! This works!! A pond that size maybe 6-8 bales distributed around the pond, to start, maybe up to 12.
I don't know if they grow barley in the States. I use barley too.
yellowlabrador USIs 10th in global barley production, between U.K. and Denmark. Google is your friend. 👍🏻
I'm really liking your videos but adding copper is making me really cringe. Copper kills all kinds of invertebrates. The basics of the food chain.
Pond Dye-Aeration-Beneficial Bacteria. That is what works for my 35 year old pond. Must keep on top of it.
In case you haven't seen it yet, check out this video from Stoney Ridge Farmer who was also dealing with pond algae... His answer? Adding a species of fish that eats it! Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/xnZWDxgAje0/v-deo.html
Checkout Aquacide Company here in Minneapolis....they have all kinds of products available, depending on your needs. I use Aquicide Pellets and Aquaclear Pellet three weeks later to compost dead weeds tgat have ed dropped to the bottom that were killed by the Aquaside pellets. Their website will help you identify type of pond weed and solution. I used these items around the dock and swimming area of our lake.
I was in shock to see you spreading it like that. You should have mixed with water and sprayed. You also don’t want to over do it because of the oxygen drain. The same goes for using diquat. Don’t cover to much area at once, because dying algae sucks oxygen and you could suffer a fish die off unless you have major mechanical aeration
Just get some grassing Carps at Tractor Supply.
Have found the video about how plants and algae make oil. Video 1. ua-cam.com/video/zaXBVYr9Ij0/v-deo.html Here is one more video that both of you would be interested in:
Making fuel from algae science video.
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Hi, the question to fix the problem with algs should be why you have algae and not what to inject in the water to prevent algs.
I think if you have algae, maybe there is too mcuh nutriments in the water. The pump you put in the water to inject air maybe increase growth of algae.
My brother got me watching your channel, I really like the content. I do watch the Arms family also and they had an algey problem also. They used tilapia, and they are also a good food source for the bass. You may want to look into it.
For the Copper Sulfate to be most effective you're supposed to dissolve the crystals first and use it in a liquid form....
Your problem is called eutrophication where the water has too many/much nutrients. Determine how nutrients are getting in the water from duck or geese poop, agricultural or nutrient rich water running into the pond or perhaps fish food? All the solutions you are mentioning (and doing) are bandaids on a compound fracture; not very effective. Solutions will take several years and removing nutrients is the only viable long term solution.
Few packs of Straw to help
Years ago I had a KOI pond and used barley straw to control the algae - it was hard to find and they charged "an arm and leg" for a small bundle - maybe a pound. If I was doing it today, I think I would grow some barley. You've got the equipment - give it a try. A dozen bales dropped around the dam and the shallow area would probably do it.
You have a great homestead and I enjoy your videos.
I sure learned a lot from this video and your efforts to clean it up, I think it looks fabulous. I just wanted to ask you if there was some sort of solar aeration you could use for the pond, i have seen it advertised for fountains but i might of got it wrong. Thanks for taking us along, it makes me want to get my fishing rod out and come for a visit.
Take a look at my UA-cam channel and the way I set up my Solar Aeration. Look up Anthony Marquez I’m holding a bass you can see the way I set up my solar panels for aeration
Other people have mentioned this but you have a nutrient loaded pond. Due to fertilizers perhaps and other things such as ducks poop. You have very little aquatic plants in there so the algae takes and uses the excess nutrients in the pond. Every pond Needs algae and other plant life you don’t see to be healthy. Using chemicals kills that off(which makes a unhealthy pond eco system.) Obviously the nutrient load makes the algae a problem but you need other plant life to take up the burden of the nutrients. Please use natural ways to clean up the water. Flowers and sedges and other plants on the banks help filter the rain run off too rather than low mowed yard grass. Then reeds and lillies and other local aquatic plants can turn your pond from a boring water hole to a thriving ecosystem where small fish can live in the plant life and the lillies and things provide shade etc.
after watching your whole video i see you do have trees around most of your pond! it looks great after what you did and from the rain< maybe next time mixing some black dye with the blue dye will work better
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If nothing else, your pond looks way better!! Love the blue!! Another channel scrapped it out and got rid of it in Oaklahoma.
I would get a inexpensive trolling motor for that boat and run a few laps every few days.
Just made that exact comment !
Old video but hoe you see my message.Did your algae look kinda like sea weed?When mine went down the over flow pipe it would collect up and dry and I would have to use a pitch fork to move it and it had a sea weed look to it