Bruce Lee Was A Philosopher, Not A Fighter...
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Chael Sonnen talks Bruce Lee's philosophy on this episode of Beyond the Fight.
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"My greatest foe will always be Chael Sonnen."
- Bruce Lee, 1972.
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Chael talking about Bruce like he hit a pregnant woman.
Hahaha I’m dead bro
😂
LOL and Bruce Lee would punch Chael’s pregnant stomach too
Jacob Kimble 3..2...1... hater
When it comes to stand up Bruce obviously has the advantage but Chael would just destroy him on the ground.
The philosophy of Tito: I'm only 43 years old... I'm an old mature... I mean I matured old... um... I mean... very fast! 
He said he wanted to outlive his kids or something like that. Lol.
He works out 6 days a week, 5 days of the week.
My dad’s very old my Dad’s 80 my grandma is 100... so yeah I’m in great shape!
@Down Shifts Lol.
His head matured
Most of the people in the comment section also believe Bruce Lee could play ping pong with numchucks
Made me laugh pretty hard! 👍🏼
That wasn't actually Bruce Lee, it was supposed to be an advertisement. A company was making an advertisement and hired someone that looked like him, but the Bruce Lee fanboys took that advertising clip and put it in a Bruce Lee compilation.
Nunchaku*
Those pure souls never admit that
Amarillo slim beat some Taiwanese world champ playing ping pong with glass coke bottles.
It is rumoured that all of Chael's PPV's were never played live on TV coz he was too fast.. They had to be recorded, slowed down and then broadcasted. What a legend!
Vishnu Gopal lmao i heard this when i was a child about Bruce Lee as well 🙈😂😂 in the movie “Fist Of Fury” they added trailers to his hands to make us believe it! 🙈🙈
LMAO
Maybe next video bud... keep writing and trying mane
The fact that people actually think Chael has ever lost a fight isn't even funny anymore. How can you go your whole career undefeated without ever losing a round and still get so much disrespect?
Oh wow, I took my first taekwondo class in Mark Schultz's wrestling room at BYU. The tkd teacher would always warn his students not to damage the wrestling mats because he was scared of Coach Schultz. He said "You don't understand, he's a REAL fighter! Not like me! He fights in a cage with no rules!" And that was how I found out about the UFC.
He was a highschool boxing champion or college in Hong Kong I’m pretty sure
@@yourmom4730 nope that’s fictional
@@skycow3208 nope it’s not
@@yourmom4730 k where’s is the video or written record of it being true
@@skycow3208 2 months later he’s still searching for it
Asking if Bruce Lee can beat UFC fighters now is not the right question. Bruce broke the mold by teaching everyone that mixing martial arts was not only okay, but the best form of combat. The real question is, what would MMA be like today with out Bruce Lee?
Exactly! There is no MMA without him. The evolution would not have happened until later and current UFC would be like UFC 1. 😁
Well... Im a bruce hardcore fan and honestly, it would be the same, mma didn't exist because of him, it just happen to be what he did back then and no one really gave a shit at that time, mma came from money, from the need of win, fighters wanted to keep winning and to do so they started to work on they blind spots, that lead them to learn more styles, if you look back to the roots of ufc/pride you would see who started to train more styles and why and it had nothing to do with bruce, wich was an incredible fighter despise what most say
he did not fight
It would be exactly the same lol he was a movies celebrity. Combats between different styles began without Bruce Lee, and it's them who ended up bringing mixed training.
@@ricya1982 MMA exist long before Bruce Lee was born.
Pankration is the earliest form of MMA, which originate in ancient Greece. Pankration is a combination of Boxing and Wrestling.
In early 1900s, Bartitsu was created. This is a actual martial art popularize by Sherlock Holmes novel. Bartitsu is a combination of Boxing, Savate, Wrestling, Kali and Judo.
In 1920s, Vale Tudo competition have been organize in Brazil. Vale Tudo is a event where different martial art compete with each other to find the strongest one (sound oddly similar to UFC 1 isn't it,I wonder why?).
Due to the popularize of Vale Tudo, a lot of martial artist started to cross train. Striker learn how to grapple and Grappler learn how to strike. All of this happen before UFC by the way. In a way Vale Tudo competitor are actually MMA fighter.
Finally, there was Sambo, which originate in 1920. SAMBO is a Russian martial that are a mixture of Wrestling, Judo,Jiu Jitsu and Kickboxing.
Just because Dana White use Bruce Lee name to marketing UFC doesn't make what he say correct. Bruce Lee doesn't create MMA,he help popularize the concept to American
Can just imagine Chael giving his kids the "Santa Claus isn't real" talk! 😆
Lol, love this comment. He really broke the heart of a lot of Bruce Lee fans with this one, lol
Best comment ever 🤣🤣
'Of course he's not real! How would he visit that many houses? Dumb dumb!"
😂 💀
"To the highest of levels"
I think the big take away here is this:
it’s a very real thing.
I read this in perfect sync with chael as I scrolled down through the comments. Highlight of my day
Chael taught Jon Jones a lot about philosophy thats for sure! 😂
Bro those tweets ended Jon Jones, Jon mailed his belt to chael and admitted defeat
Chaels just salty Jon beat his ass😂 that's usually the case with fighters who get beat by someone they dislike loool
TrapLives Matter14 Jon Jones broke his toe and had to sit!
Jon jones taught him about a fight tko rd 1 wym!😂
@@jacobmartinez2732 Jones is a scumbag! Wym?
"Its better to be a warrior in a garden then it is to be a gardener in a war"-Bruce Lee on why he practices martial arts while preaching peace
Bruce Lee also didn't know how to fight
@@blab3481 his philosophy works for alot of martial artist good chance Bruce knew how to fight
Than*
Deniz how do you know that? Unless you knew him personally you have no idea what your talking about.
@@blab3481 he did taekwondo wich is a very good discipline but i do think that he isn't as powerfull as many think and that many pro fighters would be able to beat him
“The highest technique is to have no technique. My technique is a result of your technique; my movement is a result of your movement.”
- Bruce Lee
Bruce lee philospher h3 not really proving fighter
Sounds like a load of crap
@@jamaali2358 nah it's the best philosophy tbh cuz it means u need to learn everything to become skillful and technical fighter and ur technique is a result of the opponent technique which means no matter what I'm ready for u
Exactly
@D g In what universe lmfao Bruce Lee was so fast they had to invent slow motion cameras just because of his speed. But Henry cejudo is fast huh....Lmfao they're not even close to the GOAT
Why keep comparing someone that passed away 40 years ago with the UFC/MMA fighters now? The whole environment is different, the training techniques are much more advanced than the 70's. Bruce Lee was gifted fighter and philosopher in his time and his ideas and techniques are at least 20 years ahead of his time! Saying that he couldn't beat any of the MMA fighters today is just silly as there is no concrete evidence to prove this statement unless you can "clone " Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee did fight in the streets and that was one of the reasons why he was sent abroad by his father. Some MMA fighters argue that street fights are not real fights, they have no technique, Only MMA fighters have techniques , so their logic is Bruce Lee never been in the ring, never been in the competition, so therefore Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter. They are saying as if you can only be a fighter if you step into a ring or octogon ( pardon my spelling). Street fights are nothing compared to the In ring bout or competition. It never came across their mind that ppl you are facing in street fights actually want to hurt you or even want you dead.
Exactly dude and besides the question of the dude was if Bruce were to get trained in today's martial arts for a couple of years how would he fair?? And chael didn't addressed that properly rather implied that he would somehow be a total failure in mma which is simply not true and kinda extreme downplay on his part i would say
and they might have weapons
Consider this. If he was a fake, we won't even be talking about him today still, let alone speculating about how he would do against today's best MMA fighters. One just needs to do the Research to know why. Fake Fades away, REAL endures.
I agree, you can't compare the likes of Messi & Ronaldo with the likes of Pele & Maradonna if you catch my drift. It's a totally different time & so much has changed since back then...
Chael is a talker , just talker we all know that!!
Chael “Every single day, five days a week” Sonnen
5 consistent days in a row in a weekly period
Looks like the Gregorian calendar has 5 days in a week now
Bruce Lee was not a fighter, was an actor and an hard worker. But cmon, he wouldnt last 20 seconds against Max Holloway or Volkanovski or 155er of today.
That's not true, just give Bruce a gun
bruce would ko both within 10 seconds. since this is 2v1 i give them 10 seconds.
Bruce would have been a great coach. Very intelligent and motivating. His philosophy would have and still does help fighters who r willing to compete. Now if Bruce would have competed would he have become a great fighter with a winning record? Possibly. He had the speed, he had the knowledge, he had the motivation and passion so who knows. Regardless Bruce is a Legend and the mere fact that he’s still being talked about today is a testament to that. Be like water my friends... 🙏
I think Bruce would be a fly or bantem weight champ is he lived today and trained for 5 years
@@Daniel.Miranda ever heard of wrestling?
Bullshit, Bruce Lee is full of shit he would get KO in round 1
Bruce Lee was strong for his weight and extremely quick which does help out in fighting. However, 2yrs is not enough time to catch up to high level competition like the UFC fighters technical ability. Bruce Lee would be stepping in there with tough guys who have been training effective martial arts and sparring hard since they were children.
Bruce Lee was an actor. He looked amazing in his movies because they were scripted. The fight scenes were all scripted. In the cage he wouldn't last 5 seconds. He would be picked apart on the feet even by the low level mma fighters and taken to the ground and tapped, even by a newly promoted blue belt. If he's given 2yrs Bruce had an incredible mindset, very hard worker. He would use that time wisely. But it would be insanely difficult to get to the highest level in such a short amount of time, even with the physical gifts he had. A Bruce Lee in his prime would be say, 30yrs old. 2yrs of training compared to someone like Khabib(they're the same weight) who has been training since he was 4yrs old in effective martial arts.
Bruce Lee absolutely sucked.
Come on Chael, you know Bruce was a Cha-Cha champion in Hong Kong.
That’s a good analysis. But I have one nagging question. Why did so many World champion martial artists train with Bruce Lee, most of which say he kicked their ass?
where you heard this ?
Where did you here this
Erick Knows from Chuck Norris and…Chuck Norris
Probably because he is dead... Imagine anybody saying "he wasn't that good" when talking about a dead person...
Lots of people will be butthurt
@@WhereThereDude people talk lots of shit about Hitler just saying
So spot on Chael. I’m a lifelong martial artist and Bruce Lee fan. But I know what he was and what he wasn’t.
Maybe if he was born today he would be a fighter .....he would be someone who would want to learn to fight and compete in mixed Martial arts. But he was not that in his day so to compare him to today’s fighters is almost unfair to him and the current athletes.
@Omar El Kaddouri when Bruce Lee fought Chuck Norris at the end of that movie, in real life Chuck was a champion at that time
Bruce was as legit a martial artist as any. And honestly probably the most influential martial artist to ever walk the planet. He’s responsible for thousands if not millions of people taking up martial arts including myself.
But that has nothing to do with claiming that he is a better fighter than tested and proven fighters today. We’re not even trying to compare a boxer from his generation to a boxer up today with which would still be irrelevant but more relevant than this conversation.
Those boxers would have had real fights to watch and have engaged in real car that was recorded. Bruce Lee was a movie star and a martial artist. No proven record and no history of combat. I have no doubt that if Bruce was alive today he would be knee-deep in mixed Martial arts and hopefully he would have been a contender.
But saying that I don’t believe or can prove that he was a great fighter has nothing to do with the fact that he was an amazing martial artist a massive influence and a great philosopher. I live by many of his principles to this day.
He wasnt competing versus the other guys back in the day with back in the day knowledge what makes you think he would compete today, no difference at all... but thats your excuse lol....
how many movie stars you know who tinker in mma fighting?
Man finally , I find some ppl with real life martial arts knowledge . Bruce would have no chance in an octagon . Not disrespecting Bruce but he was never a full combat fighter .
Bruce trained and sparred with the highest level fighters at the time from Joe Lewis, Ed Parker, and Chuck Norris. They all said he was skilled and could fight. Bruce was more than just words or concepts. I compare him to Firas and I bet money Firas can fight even though he doesn't.
Facts
Firas trains BJJ, boxing, wrestling, and muay thai. He also fuses them together to make his mma skills better. He trains effective martial arts. Bruce Lee did not train effective martial arts. 90 percent of what he learned does not work against a trained fighter. Those guys you mentioned wouldn't even last 10 seconds in a cage fight. The highest level fighters at that time is completely different than the highest level fighters now. It's like comparing a 2020 car to a 1920 car.
Bruce will come in with his karate stance and get his leg kicked until they fall off. Or worse, he'll just get single legged and taken to the ground where he would be helpless. He trained an art with extremely restricted rules. Not only would he not survive he would be dominated.
In his book about Jeet Kune Do (which is a philosophy and a training regimen not a true martial art) it seemed he like he threw away most of the Wing Chun techniques if that's the inneffective art you're referring to. Also he did box and trained in muay thai, although to be fair im not sure how much muay thai he integrated into his style. Bruce Lee was weird and his style had a lot of influence from fencing rather than wing chun which is why he fights in a southpaw stance despite being right-handed.
@@bane3991 " Bruce lee did not train effective martial arts". Tf are you talking about. Bruce lee is literally a legend of the martial art community. Bruce lee even said "I don't fear the man that knows 1000 kicks but practice 1 time, but I fear the men who practice 1 kick but 1000 times. And you're saying that not efficient?
@lef ofbadanboojy Those guys you mention also train boxing/muay thai to compliment their karate style which is completely fine, they're fusing it together. A karate style by itself does not work. Karate rules limit you. In karate tournaments you don't have to worry about leg kicks so their stance does not compensate for that, so they can't check them as well as say a thai fighter. Their hands are severely underdeveloped. Bad hands are a recipe for disaster in MMA.
90 percent of karate is useless, but not 100 percent as I said before. They have amazing, the best spinning back kicks.
As much as I love Uncle Chael, I have to fully disagree on Gene Lebell. Gene was a killer back then and can show you MANY things.
Gene was a gorilla: I wouldn't want to fight him now at 85!
Evidence?
Matt Avellaneda check out gene lebell vs milo savage
@@mattavellaneda6073 why does everyone have to show evidence. And why does Bruce lee have to have had loads of fights to prove he can fight. isn't the whole point of martial arts, is being able to win the fight without actually fighting, and if the fight does happen, that you can stay calm be smart. It's not suppose to be about how tough you are, or how good at competing you are.
@@markmorris7123 The whole point of martial arts is being able to fight, to impose your will in a situation through martial abilities, etc...everything else is either tangential or parallel. Is Jon Jones a legendarily terrible martial artist because of all his crimes and misadventures? Of course not. There isn't a straight line at all between martial art prowess and character, despite Hollywood and some other glamorizing that angle.
Let's be honest if fighters as sloppy as Mike Perry, Artem Lobov, and Greg Hardy can make it to the UFC and win fights then so can Bruce Lee with a couple years of MMA training, his fundamentals are better than most UFC fighters TBH.
How dare you speak of GOAT Artem like that
if he was alive today he would simply refuse to do so, but anyone with the right coach and determination could probably win a fight eventually
And how do you know his fundamentals were that good? By seeing them in his movies? That's the problem, you guys create a narrative on something without any proofs... Only few videos availiable are demonstrations or Bruce hitting the heavy bag with a not so great technique
@@Pwanx0w there is a sparring video of Bruce Lee. Go to mindsmash's channel or theweasle's channel to see a breakdown.
@@Pwanx0w chuck was a kickboxing world champion and he said Bruce would beat him in a fight , it is true no one really knows how good Bruce Lee would do in mma so don't judge someone cause he was in movies because it sounds like you are too following your own narrative 🤔
The only person who uses their mouth to get opportunities is titos ex wife
He was never no marriage
You’re a fucking punk dude
You guys got no class !
@@Kpopboba this is what class looks like , to no class
@@adilzakirhussain6720 Bad Girl!
Bruce Lee is just a human being. He's not going to be able to compete with the best Mixed Martial Artists of today. That doesn't mean he's not worth of all the respect he deserves, since he is the mind behind Mixed Martial Arts in the first place. The Wright brothers wouldn't be able to out perform a professional f22 pilot, under any circumstances, doesn't mean we can't appreciate them for inventing human powered flight???
That's a good point. I've some of his books and he did seem to be obsessed with fighting and martial Arts and fitness. I mean detailed notes(with illustrations!) about striking, parrying, grappling, etc.
That's great analogy
That's a pointless analogy mate, piloting an aircraft isn't in and of itself a competitive endeavor, no one would think to make that comparison. Also there's a TON of Bruce Lee fanboys that think he'd beat half the UFC roster and that he's some genuine legendary fighter, these simpletons need to be educated
MMA exist long before Bruce Lee was born.
Pankration is the earliest form of MMA, which originate in ancient Greece. Pankration is a combination of Boxing and Wrestling.
In early 1900s, Bartitsu was created. This is a actual martial art popularize by Sherlock Holmes novel. Bartitsu is a combination of Boxing, Savate, Wrestling, Kali and Judo.
In 1920s, Vale Tudo competition have been organize in Brazil. Vale Tudo is a event where different martial art compete with each other to find the strongest one (sound oddly similar to UFC 1 isn't it,I wonder why?).
Due to the popularize of Vale Tudo, a lot of martial artist started to cross train. Striker learn how to grapple and Grappler learn how to strike. All of this happen before UFC by the way. In a way Vale Tudo competitor are actually MMA fighter.
Finally, there was Sambo, which originate in 1920. SAMBO is a Russian martial that are a mixture of Wrestling, Judo,Jiu Jitsu and Kickboxing.
Just because Dana White use Bruce Lee name to marketing UFC doesn't make what he say correct. Bruce Lee doesn't create MMA,he help popularize the concept to American
@@LThanhHao232 I'm sure there are more people that have thought "why don't we just mix a bunch of martial arts and see which one is best". However, we have Bruce Lee to thank for the UFC, One FC, Bellator matches that we can watch today. For that, I thank him.
Your information is interesting. I'll look it up. However, I'd recommend you'd change your tone. No one likes a know it all Than Hao Le.
EDIT: Never mind, on second reading of your comment I discovered you didn't really claim anything that any of us don't know already.
Chael: " this is not meant to be an insult to bruce"
-chael proceeds to piss all over bruce-
🤣
I'd money on Bruce lee beating Chael in a fight.
@MJ Mail disrespectful to white people? calm down snowflake
@@colinsushiboy745 "I'd money on Bruce lee beating Chael in a fight."
I love Bruce buuuuut hell no... even if we give Bruce the benefit of being born at a later time with access to the same martial arts that Chael had, we're still talking about a 135/145 striker against 180/205lb wrestler. Chael would rag doll him.
@@MrShitthead and the height/reach advantage
There is no guarantee that Bruce Lee would be able to learn to wrestle. Very athletic people try wrestling for years and never pick it up like others... its called mat sense. You kinda have it or you dont
Bruce Lee is a better character to use in the UFC video game than you. That’s the cold part
Wow. It’s a game bruh.🤦🏿♂️ Chill out
Its seems Chael has some old beef with Bruce Lee from his past life. 😂😂😂
He got beat up by Bruce on he's past life that's why he I saying that
@@SouzaxSouzax bruce gona get beat by uncel chael..atleast chael os fighter not coward like bruce lee
@@azizahosman1979 damn bro Don't be so mad that you can't spell
He's just frustrated that he never got a chance to train and meet the man. ;-)
He likely gets a ton of messages from 40 year old guys living in their mom's basement about how Bruce Lee was the real deal because he had all these secret fights no one ever saw or recorded, and they finish with a 1000 word essay in why Bruce Lee would easily beat prime Tyson that sounds about as though a monkey that was in a car crash without wearing it's seat belt had written it.
Bruce Lee wasn't a pro fighter, that's correct but saying that sparring was never a part of his training is false. He even created a prototype of mma gloves to allow throws during his trainings. Those are the gloves he used in the opening scene of Enter Dragon.
You can also find old footages of him sparring on UA-cam. There aren't a lot of them so there is not a lot of material to really analyse his skills, plus we don't know the level of the oppenents. However by the way he moves, one thing is certain, it's not your average Joe sparring for the first time or those Mac dojo gurus getting debunked. Sorry if there are mistakes, English is not my first language
Only light touch-sparring. No MA-matches or heavy sparring. He was an actor just like Jackie Chan.
Chan would also have been humiliated if he competed against real fighers in UFC in his prime.
Bruce lee if he ever went to mma and learned that sh*t to fight in the ufc he would be very good at it, but he never did so of course he’s not a fighter. But he was the original mma mind.
The original MMA mind. LMAO
No he wasn't
He would get destroyed
He was not the original mma mind 🙄 where's Jeet Kun Do today?
Do you really believe that the idea of training multiple martial arts came from one mind? There's hundreds of fighters who did the same, they were just not movie stars so nobody remembers them
🍿*Goes to comment section*
In all honesty Bruce knew how to fight
Probably should have done it then.
@@Waywardfolk for what?
I'm starting to think that chael could even convince me that i am adopted.
He is a Sophist. Look it up.
Its so handy to be educated. It genuinely helps recognize certain phenomenons.
And im not talking just harvard. Good Will Hunting style works too. Just look a lot of stuff up
@@unconcernedcitizen4092
you’re probably right.
“phenomena is the usual plural. Phenomenons may also be used as the plural in nonscientific writing...”
But the more common application sounds slightly better here. Sorry I physically altered you.
Read Bruce's book Tao of Jeet Kune do and see for yourself that everything that is working in Mma nowadays was written by him 50 years ago. Legendary man who was constantly evolving and learning from his mistakes, he was very adaptable.
Chael he did not believe in fighting in combat sports with a set of rules as that would limit his abilities, especially as a smaller man. If a 250 lb man is attacking you do anything to win including eye gouging. Professional sports only make exceptions to that rule for Jon Jones.
He also did not believe in kata and doing fixed, ridgid movements like that.
He deserves to be revered for his contributions to the martial arts and making them mainstream, gratitude is in order, not disrespect.
Professional fighters at the time sparred with him and couldn't hit him.
Mike Goddard Video or stfu
Maybe you should do a little research before you comment, his footwork, movement and defense was on another level. He sparred with kickboxers and savate fighters. Have you not seen fighters that are almost impossible to hit (lomachenko, Mayweather).Thank you for classy, intelligent reply.
I disagree. The entire game of points "fighting" tournaments with all of the rules was a joke in the 60's and still is a joke today. It is sports-tag, and proves nothing in the realm of fighting. Far too many weapons neutralized by rules. Bruce was challenged to street fights, honor fights, film crew extras, hand picked "assassin" types, etc. Most of Lee's life was spent earning his reputation with skin in the game in Hong Kong, Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland, etc, not in Los Angeles.
Those honor fights were bs. They’re just made up stories. They never say the names of these peoples or the dates these supposed fights occurred. It’s all myth. If he had half the fights claimed he’d have been arrested at least once. You don’t beat people up 100’s of times and not get arrested.
If he s a myth you re all meat
Chael P. "As long as you don't drive away from us we're good" Sonnen!
Come out with more videos chael, so bored at home looking for MMA content and there’s zilch. Love your content and your storytelling
Right, i could just listen to him talk about none sense all day.
@@JJ-mr9re 😂
I’m no Bruce Lee fan, but Chael doesn’t seem to know a lot about him. Bruce Lee boxed, kickboxed, did judo and sparred with all his students and the legends of the day. He did no kata/forms after being exposed to boxing and kick boxing upon his arrival in America. I’ve met and trained with the late Joe Lewis, he never said Bruce could beat him, but he also didn’t say Bruce couldn’t defend himself.
U mean Bruce can beat heavyweight!
Joe Lewis said Bruce is the fastest fighter he ever seen and he can hit as hard as heavyweight . Base on Bruce workout regime. I'm not surprise at all
@@wacko37 who even said that Bruce can beat a heavyweight. 😅🤣
I think Chael's point is that Bruce never competed. Not in boxing, judo, kickboxing. Trained, yes, in his backyard, with a few good guys like Lewis, and mostly with his los angeles students. I have to agree with Chael. If you're defined as what you do, then Bruce was a philosopher, not a fighter. He didn't really fight. Sparring ain't fighting.
Megat Afiq Yes, talking about Bruce’s fighting is one thing, but his physical gifts are undeniable.
Would Bruce Lee be a great fighter? We'll never know, can only speculate.
not Hollywood the Chinese mafia just like how they did his son Brandon lee !! just like back in the day they didn’t like that he was teaching different styles of martial arts in the us
He took the wrong medicine which killed him. It was an accident
Boxing Expert lol it’s called a cover up bucko. If you were chuck would u taint a great/ best friend who’s gone?
Nah.
@Brett Sylvester you re meat
He was also a movie star and was very aware of the importance of protecting his image. He couldn’t risk getting kicked in the face in a fight. Cmon man
exactly
This is like saying Bob Marley couldn’t smoke or Hendrix couldn’t trip.....
Bruce Lee changed martial arts forever because of SPARRING not katas! BL hated kata and mentions it repeatedly in his notes /books. He freelanced his skills and turbocharged them with athletic attributes which is what MMA is today. JKD, which is BL’s personal experimentation on hand-to-hand combat with a kungfu foundation was the prototype MMA recipe which you see today minus kungfu trapping.
He used cinema to expand people’s minds especially martial artists. Look at all of his films and tell me BL doesn’t have some type of MMA tactic/ technique...
Obviously he wasn’t a pro full contact fighter but that wasn’t the point... he sparred which most martial artists didn’t do back in the day. When I say spar I mean in MMA fashion meaning strike takedown and some submissions BUT ALSO refine the street lethal or dirty shit (eye jab, groin strike, headbutts, etc). All of this wasn’t really popular but is pretty basic today. BL was way ahead of his time. Look at lethwei now, BL was already into that shit with the headbutts yet we only appreciate now decades later.
"...and by most I mean 100%..."
This is just incorrect. Chael is entertaining but my god he has a talent for misconception.
I have only heard that once upon a time there was Burce Lee, who has the ability to beat any famous fighter. But couldn’t find a video of beating any.
It's kinda hard to beat people when your dead
lol Chael is the king of saying something bold and then immediately following up with "that's not actually true at all" - "but you get what I'm saying"
I think it's simply fair to say he was a martial artist. As a martial artist, you train the concepts and the techniques. He did not fight; he was not a fighter. However, he did train (obviously).
neither u, sonnen, nor i really know if he was a fighter. there's supposedly no visual proof either way, that i have seen.
Bruce Lee was the Jean Claude Va-Damme, the Michael Jai White, the Steven Seagal of his time
He basically started the martial arts genre in cinema
He took Kung Fu to Hollywood
Jean claude van damme actually competed tho. Bruce Lee? Not really 😂
Chael Sonnen: Los angeles is not a hotbet for anything....... not boxing.
Los Angeles County: Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, Bobby Chacon, Genaro Hernandez, Vanes Martirosyan, John Molina Jr., Sergio Mora (Born. Not counting the countless fighters fighting out of)
Not counting Oxnard/Riverside/San Bernardino.
Bruce lee had gym in broadway street oakland ca and also trained people in his house in east oakland until he moved to la
The only 2 that are any good are Mosley and de la Hoya, one of whom is Mexican and the other is a steroid junkie
@lef ofbadanboojy Somehow I'm not surprised lol.
@@br-jj6re I'll admit you have to be pretty into boxing to know who most of those are, but Genaro Hernandez was the world champ whom Floyd Mayweather defeated to earn his first world title. Floyd later paid for Hernandez's funeral expenses after he passed away due to cancer.
" Louis Delgado was the last fighter to beat Chuck Norris in a tournament. Delgado said in a karate magazine in the 60/70's that Bruce was the most difficult guy he ever sparred with and he was in awe of Bruce. " - oot
A fighter who trains without sparring is like a swimmer who hasn’t immersed in the water - bruce lee
Incorrect, Bruce sparred a lot with kickboxers like Joe Lewis. Look it up, Joe talks about it
in fact it wa Bruce that made Joe interested to go full kickboxing bc karate point fighting was lame to his eyes
Chael’s not one to let the truth get in the way of his story
@Alex Amaya So your're saying Joe Lewis was lying?
He doesn't "talk" about it because he's been dead for 8 years. What he did talk about was having trained somewhat with Lee but even during that time lee never sparring with him. He also did actual combat and contact fight training with Joe Orbillo who was a legitimate heavyweight boxing contender. but apparently we will just talk about the movie star as his greatest influence and not the guy who actually did contact fighting.
Bruce sparred plenty according to Joe Lewis, Bob wall and others, cross trained with Gene.....
These guys have no idea what there talking about. He spared all the time. He fought all the time. He studied many styles. Was challenged every where. Every one wanted to beat him to claim the title of the best. If Bruce was alive he would still be a great momentum in Mix martial arts.
Crimzon King didn’t he even win a boxing tournament when he was younger
exactly, Bruce even criticized traditional martial arts for NOT sparring
@@crimzonking3501 just because he fought all the time doesn’t mean he was a great fighter and those people he fought no doubt were not legit fighters
Uncle Cheal, your wisdom is monumental and insurmountable! To hear you speak is a pleasure!
People who say Bruce Lee was a bad ass and could beat professional fighters is like me saying Tom Hanks could genuinely beat Usain Bolt in a race because "just look at how he moved in Forrest Gump!".
That's the level of insanity BL fanboys are dialled to.
Tom Hanks >>> Usian Bolt
He was a known bad. Ass and the funny part about your comment is it ain't shit since you talking shit against a man who died back in July of 73 48 yrs ago. I understand that's what ppl such as you do,go on attack mode against a person who ain't around to defend themselves. All I can say is man your ego only makes u seem bigger than what u are, because all I see up here is a jealous ass dog barker stating such claims against a man who made one of the biggest differences in the world, and he still doing it 48 yrs later almost a half of century since his untimely death! What a life u have I feel extremely sorry for you,and to clear this up. Bruce Lee was a fighter before he became a martial artist. His brutal no holds barred rooftops fight as a teen in Hong Kong almost killing the son of a feared triad, and we are talking about a Chinese man who came to American and by the 60's open up martial arts schools in the most turbulent times in the 60's doing the heart of the civil rights movement,and taught gung fu in the same community where Huey p Newton and his black panther organized. We are talking about him doing all this shit in Oakland in the 60's he had to have been a bad mf to have done all that shit doing that very very brutal times in American history. You wouldn't have the heart to do that that proved he was a fighter,and he was nothing to fuck with. Plus you don't know what Bruce did doing that time who he taught. Only then he beat a kung fu master from china town, which proved that he was the real deal. The man fought wars to teach everyone in the us something we didn't have here and that was Kung Fu. Let me tell u this he was more dangerous then the martial arts u study remember you stuck on tradition martial arts he created his own fighting system. He trained his mind and whole body extensively. Man he would have beat the living shit out you man his mind and body was to shift and deceptive for u to even comprehend on the level his mind was at. He was to much in the perfect physical shape beyond how fit a human body could go. You ain't in enough shape,to fuck with Bruce Lee man u talking out your ass.lol
spot on
Wrong, do some more research. I had Poteet in his facebook before his passing, stating Bruce Lee was the real deal, Poteet was first generation of Bruce's students. Did you spent great deal of time with Bruce like Poteet? No. Did you ever met Bruce? No. Then you have no idea. Jesse Glover another first student, witnessed Bruce knocked out Youchi Nakachi in 11 seconds. Stop stereotyping BL fans, you the Forrest Gump dumb dumb who don't do enough research. There's two fans, the fake ones who do more damage than good exxagerate Bruce and there's the fans know Bruce has no tournament record but don't mean shit. Bruce already proved to established fighters he can fight.
I'm not a Bruce Lee fan but Bruce was actually very known for sparring with different styles and also having lots of real fights...
Bruce Lee actually did spar and it is pretty well documented.
Bruce didn't like kata.
I think there is like only one video of him sparring
@@shahul8222 they are more and the best athletes of his time that would train and spar with him. Question why will they do so and admit it improved their abilities. Even Joe Lewis said after training with him he decided to start full contact contest why ??? come one let's be logic here.
Joe Lewis was already doing tournament fighting before he trained with Bruce and he only trained with Bruce for less than two years. Even then he was a kick boxing fighter not kung fu. And they had a falling-out anyways.
laurence holden Bruce lee was A college boxing champion
@@shahul8222 and its pathetic
Bruce Lee was extremely driven and focused. That counts for something. If he were alive today he would be smart enough to understand what does and doesn't work
i believe he was one of 3 martial arts geniuses, the others being helio gracie & wally jay.
No one is really mentioning his intangibles. Doubt he'd do it, but give him all the tools and technology modern fighters have and he'd be a UFC champ. I'm sure he'd be as adaptable as GSP.
He says Bruce Lee and Gene Lebell were myths. This reminds me of the time Chael tried to get everyone to believe that Minotauro Nogueira tried to feed a carrot to a school bus.
Being older i can tell you for a fact people where sparing in the 70s and 80s
Was it a very real thing?
in full contact sports like boxing, kick boxing, wrestling, he never denied that. but in bruce’s world primarily eastern martial arts no they were not doing full contact sparring. that was looked down upon heavily.
@@ryannavarro606 in Asia they allways had ufc style tournaments
ecosby100 no they didnt
Speedy Bohlke full contact karate tournaments, but first person lands scores and resets. nowhere near the same as a real fight.
Bruce's mindset and skillset was still ahead of his time. Regardless he was a lifelong martial artist with incredible speed and athleticism especially in the 60s
@MJ Mail hed definitely whoop that ass with some nunchakus tho. 100% lol
Okay , tell me why no one is using Jeet Kun do now ?
Because it isn't practical.
@@fvgc454ss The Gracie's would easily and let me repeat that easily beat him even with the nunchucks.
Bro any boxer could have kill him in the minute. Chinesse don't know how to slip punches.
@@rorisang8602 Lots of UFC Champions have used aspects of Jeet Kune Do, a fairly good example is the defensive footwork of Dominick Cruz that utilizes working off the centerline of the body, and pressuring others while they're centered.
Damn near every single martial art in the world has at least some aspects of it that are useful in both MMA and fights in general including Jeet Kune Do, most of it isn't that practical, but the vast majority of BJJ or Wrestling also isn't practical. Go watch BJJ and wrestling matches and tell me how practical they look while being unrefined for general fighting.
If you want further examples look to some of Anderson Silva's defensive hand guard, and Jon Jones oblique Kicks on opponents moving towards him.
He was a fighter... okay he didn’t have a record it doesn’t make him not a fighter he was thru and thru a fighter had the heart of one everything
agreed but he would get mopped by any top 5 in his division. probably top 10
@@kirkgarrity9502 you say that because you wouldnt dare challenge him it s easy now to talk on his back when he is dead i would see if he was Alice he would kick y all mma wannabes
@@fadyalame3507 why are you so angry? and you probably right, i would lose, i'm still learning. But i can tell by the way your talking, you've never trained before buddy.
@@kirkgarrity9502 you re talking as if you were right
Correct and well spoken on every point. Thank you.
To be honest, there is footage of Bruce sparring, and you could tell that he was well versed on his feet. His timing was great, and his power, which he demonstrated by hitting bags and such, was also remarkable, especially considering his size (135lbs). Bruce was also very important for the philosophy of modern martial arts. But Bruce was an actor, it wouldn't make sense for him to not be able to film his movies, from which he lived very well, because he had a busted face. He had priorities, but to say he didn't know how to fight, or that his skills were imaginary, is not true. Okay? Great.
Have you seen any of his fighting notes?
I’m sitting here listening to Chael talk about how Bruce Lee didn’t do competition fighting and I’m just like dude.... he had Way bigger aspirations, that’s why we still talk about him today. You think he should have been a fucking fighter instead of a cultural icon? So that y’all can give him credit for his fighting skills ? Bruce Lee was a 1\10000000 person . Y’all can say he’s just a human all you want, but he was a unique human with inhuman drive and discipline not to mention unbelievable physicality. With 2 years of training he would UNDOUBTEDLY be bantamweight champ in ufc today.
What about bruce lee wrestling, if bruce at his prime wrestle great wrestlers, Bruce would be destroyed ?
@@shedshow1439 😂damn another salty Bruce lee fan who just cant get over the fact..bruce lee was nothing more then a persona.. not a actual fighter like the ways of today..
You must definitely be one of those who cried there eyes out when they watched ,upon a time in Hollywood 😂😂😂
nobody knows how Bruce lee would’ve done in the mma world today ! everybody is just talking out of there ass 😂 but he is a great martial artist actor just like the others Jet lee. Jackie Chan jean Claude van damme Jason statham !
Im suprise theres no bruce lee hurt fans responding like crazy like hes hella legit. Chael called it down
Give it time, the fanboys will be crying in no time. Lol
@Terrence Odonnell so you think bruce lee could actually beat Ali or beat the top contenders in todays UFC lightweight division?
Usually most would argue that I have no place in criticizing and that I would have to be some kind of expert at a martial art to say anything. Apparently Uncle Chael said what I thought and shut all the Bruce lee fanboys up. Thank you Chael the next time someone wants to argue with my statement ill turn them to you. Let me guess they'll argue Chaels fight record. O wait chael has one does bruce? I dont think so. All I hear for any combative proof are stories. This is why guys like Segal is so popular. The media displays him like hes some all around martial arts badass when he most likely have just a limited form. Its called choreograph you idiots! Not the same as reality!
Terrence Odonnell Awwwww are you cranky you didn’t get your Soy Latte today?
That's what i always said! He's not only a philosopher but one of the most influential of all time.
Also, Please listen to Suger Ray Leonard and Jim Kelly talk about Bruce Lee.
Sugar ray Leonard was like 10 when Bruce Lee died
@@br-jj6re He was 17 that year, and Mister Sonnen was not born
But to Chael’s point he never sparred 100%. He trained with guys. He never competed and did anything full contact.
The School of Everything but they didn’t soar at 100%, that’s not sparring. There’s videos of sparring sessions and they’re very Kungfu oriented. Where you land 1 technique then reset. That’s not sparring.
@The School of Everything huh......I've seen grandmas spar and look good bud. Did he fight in a full contact fight with someone who wanted to hurt him? No.
Lee: "Empty your cup so it may be filled... become devoid to gain totality." yup. a philosopher.
@Zayne simard moore That's a load of bullcrap. Lmao.
@@sirswearsalot1813 it's not impossible, assuming that those guys were under the influence, and like Masvidal said there are alot of bad dudes that are about it but dont compete. Also altercations in the street can be reduced to a quick scuffle because of the unpredictability.
@Zayne simard moore Do you notice how all this fights always have as witnesses only people who later lived off Bruce Lee's legend, selling books and teaching Jet Kune Do like Dan Inosanto?
@@gustavotriqui good point
I was trained as a kid in karate point fighting and kata I got my blackbelt at 14 in American Kenpo/ Jujitsu. Luckily for me in high school, I had friends on the wrestling team and UFC was a big deal, just roughhousing as a teenager showed me what was valuable in a fight, and let me tell you it wasn't my knowledge of kata 2.
Wrestling is definitely the best martial art base you can have. You can take the fight anywhere you want. Plus it builds up your mental strength like no other.
How long did it take you to get a blackbelt?
Lol kata is for self practice not combat
Kinda questionable getting a black belt at 14 if we're talking karate here....
Luke t I did shotokan karate and got my brown belt (two bellow black if I remember) at around 13/4 years old. I started when I was 4/5 so it is possible to get a karate black belt at 14. Although it means fuck all for real world fighting
I'm not sure about this one, he was a man who preached peace in a way. I don't believe violence in a sporting way would have actually made sense for him? I don't know how to word it, I don't think his ideals could have been taken seriously if he was actually an active fighter.
Chael has started philosophy...& he is trying to take Bruce Lee on his side.
Hugely wrong take he trained with joe lewis and many other great martial artists
And would have gotten stiffed out by any of the today's actual fighters.
@@bingbong6127 absolutely. I'm a big Lee fan and I don't disagree. But chael got a lot of things wrong here, sparring was essential to his training later on in his life, and watching interviews of anyone he's sparred will disprove some of chael's claims. Some have even spoken of his ability as a counter striker. Which is something that you cannot even know of back then unless you've sparred and experimented extensively.
Again, Lee cannot beat a single fighter in the ufc. None. But you have to agree that chael did get some things wrong here.
@@bingbong6127 he would surpass them
A lot of Martial artists like to kiss ass and get together with the Bruce lee hype
I’ve definitely seen this video before Chael, care to explain?
Ed Hart was a professional heavyweight boxer. Jesse Glover, from Seattle, was ranked #4 in the country in Judo. Both witnessed Bruce fight a karate/Judo guy at the YMCA. There's video of interviews with them and why the YMCA was chosen. It's on UA-cam. He also won a boxing tournament in high school against British guys when Britain occupied Hong Kong. No, these guys weren't Muhammad Ali, but for everyone who holds sport fighting as "real fighting," there's an example of him competing. Then you have the sparring breakdown from the Weasel which is a good example of where the world was before mma and how ahead of the rest of the martial arts world Bruce Lee was in 1967. He was ahead of his time and always refining his craft. He also was a big believer that sparring was a must for someone to become a better fighter and see what does and doesn't work.
that's not exactly true though. not only did they spar, bruce was sent to america because he was getting in too many street fights in china. You also say that only actors perpetuated that Bruce Lee's skill was legit, when chuck norris himself (who was a legit competitor) spoke very highly of bruce's skill even saying that bruce would have beat him in a real fight if they were the same size.
So? Anderson silva said the same about jose aldo, about how he would be a problem if he was in middleweight. The point is, people say this out of respect.
Ok, I love Chael, and you can look this up, Bruce Lee never said he could beat Mohammid Ali, Quentin Tarantino did. I don't think he ever actually said he could beat anyone. He also didn't believe in "The Classical Mess" katas and moves that would not work in real life. How do you assume he learned what would work and what wouldn't? He grew up fighting, didn't need to as an actor. There weren't many cameras rolling when he was a kid. Take it back Chael!! Or you're going to release the Dragon!!.....😉
He did say it actually, but as a complete joke. He even went on to say that Muhammad Ali would've killed him in a fight.
You think he was fighting people with similar or superior skillsets though ?
Truth of the matter was he was a philosopher and an actor , so to presume he would do well to beat fighter who primarily train for real combat against similar or superior fighters is just nuts. Media portrayed him as so living legend but he really wasn't, if Jeet kun do was so crazy , why isn't it used today ?
That's because as a martial art , it is not practical.
Rorisang because he never taught many people and there was no one to pass it on, ppl only knew the core concept of it but no one actually knows enough to go teach others about it
@@Venksama if you could, point me to that literature. I've been a Bruce Lee fan all my life, I've read a few of his books, watched all his movies, and took to the internet trying to find an instance where he says anything remotely like that. I'm not at all trying to argue, it's totally interest. But yeah if he actually said it I'd assume he was joking.
@@rorisang8602 I don't know if they were similar, but I'm sure they had an equal or close to skill set. His teacher, Ip man, was a bad, bad man and I'd imagine he (Ip Man) definately had a superior skillset. Karate classes today are nothing compared to full contact Wing Chun.
Chael “7 times, if I’m wrong it’s 6” Sonnen
Finally, a BRAVE SOUL that speaks the TRUTH
That s speaks crap
Agree Chael doesn't kiss ass
@@fadyalame3507 what's it like to be a brainwashed sheep that shamelessly kisses other's ass and believes in movie fight scenes
If I could choose to train with Bruce Lee or Chael Soonen, I'm picking Bruce Lee. Team Bruce forever.
@MJ Mail look up Bruce Lee, he is a REAL fighter. He met this match when he fought Wong Jackman "Shaolin master". It change Bruce Lee forever, that's how June Kune do was develop. Before Bruce Lee was beating the shit of everyone using IP Man style.
@MJ Mail did you read what I wrote ?, or you're just in your basement trolling. I said if "I" could choose.
Sounds like Chael is still mad about that Machida loss.
He never lost that fuckhead. Undefeated undisputed check your facts
Machida lost too soon, Chael didn’t really get to showcase his skills that night... i can see why he would still be annoyed by that.
What are you talking about? Uncle Chael is undefeated and has never lost a round.
Chael thinks he can talk sh*t about anything because he has a troll army.
Chael that was pretty fkn good man. U Def have a gift of gab.
Bruce was an elite level street fighter in his prime. Chael is pretty knowledgeable about MMA, but wouldn't last 30 seconds against Bruce.
@Alex Amaya he s mediocre just look at his face
mma looney these days
I've literally never heard anyone lay into Bruce Lee like that before 😅
and be so wrong while doing it
He doesn't even know about bruce lee. Bruce lee never said anything about beating Muhammad Ali so idk where chael getting his info from. Bruce even admitted that his little chinese hand wouldn't hurt Muhammad Ali.
Because most people aren’t quite as willing to show off their ignorance.
@@crazysupercamel6337 you really think Bruce Lee could fight? You're stupid if you think so.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi you think he could not? Bruce heavily influenced MMA today andis known as the father of MMA, todays fighters are just now resembling the picture Lee painted for the world. He was ahead of his time.
All Respect I know that Bruce Could Fight. He was
Just his skills were exaggerated...
Bruce lee could fight. He trained for the street like an mma fighter trains for the ring. He would go around training with all the best guys in other disciples. He was a true fighter and martial artist. Plenty of first hand stories of Bruce being An ass kicker
Brett Sylvester he can definitely fight. Maybe not at a level of Connor McGregor or Jon Jones but im sure he was a good fighter considering he spent his life doing martial arts. Was he elite tho? Probably not!
Let’s not forget Bruce lee was not ignorant, he was good fighter for his time he learned new skills when he came to the u.s he did not bash boxing he actually learned from it, and created his own style of “way of no way” that is implemented today in the UFC.
He couldn't fight.
@@aschu234 oh bullshit he fought on the street. That's just a convenient excuse, not a single person he supposedly fought on the street has ever announced they fought him.
After watching The Last Dance I tend to think Bruce would have the same traits as Jordan that desire to be the best if you dont beat your opponent at first you find motivation until you do
Gene LaBelle was competing against top competition and winning when Chael was gluing macaroni to paper plates.
He was one of the first to actually put it on the line.
This is the THIRD video that Chael has made about the subject of Bruce not being a fighter. Why? Did he think we didn't understand his point the first 2 times?
@Brett Sylvester shut up you mma looney i would love to see a mediocre fighter punch you 100 times in 100 matches and calling himself the best bruce lee never willed to fight for record that s shows alone you don t know anything about him
what happened to “the secrets of the business!”?.
Lmao
Absolutely. Training against a fully resistant opponent is essential for developing fighting ability. There used to be "bullshido" cartoons online to make fun of what Chael's talking about. They were hilarious.
i bet 99% of sport fighters have never been in a real street fight in their life
yeah because you were around to see what was going on then behind the scenes.
I can say the same to you, how do you know he was good? Were you around back then?
@@zwryy7622 he wasn't around but there were hundreds and thousands of witnesses including real martial artists unlike these cage fighting thugs. Maybe you better do more research before talking out of your ass like Chael Sonnen and Brenden Scrub.
@@user-jg6gu87tfcdrtbb "real martial artists", ok dum dum
@@user-jg6gu87tfcdrtbb I dont know what your definition of a real martial artist is but those "thugs" would beat like 99,99% of people on earth, most of them without any effort. That's a good start to being a "real martial artist" if you ask me.
@Tom babybot where? How was JKD proven to be useless? oh it wasnt, youre just talking out of your ass and dont know shit about martial arts.
Been saying this for years . Great to have you explain the reality of the “ Cult” of Bruce Lee
Thank you! I was so puzzled as to why we don't evidence of his fighting.
Bruce Lee actually had one documented boxing match in Hong Kong.
Chael Sonnen is a philosopher and a undefeated fighter...
Undefeated?
Jacob Martinez And Undisputed
@John Doe its wrong chael never lost a round
@John Doe It is wrong.
Thank you for telling this side. So many nowadays don’t know this, and cancel culture has made so many timid to talk about anything than can even slightly be perceived as critical or offensive. Dangerous waters we are treading in
100% with you on that one bro
cancel culture does nothing wrong other thaat ask not to spout your theories.
@@finalfrontier001 The entire purpose of cancel culture is to hide the truth, and shun those who speak it.
He did a great job promoting martial arts ngl. Don't forget that Helio Gracie and Masahiko Kimura were alive during his time and both could've kicked his ass even if they were in their 50s.
Entering combat, even if just sparring, is a different world than training and building a style. Its all about having been there, done the work, and getting your skills checked by another human not a board or a bag.
It’s all just speculation. Bruce is an icon. He was certainly skilled in many aspects of martial arts. But we have not seen him fight so nobody knows if he could fight legitimately or not. He could surprise everyone and be a natural world beater or be the opposite. He will always be a legend regardless of any of that to me.
there's no such thing as a natural wonder homie... it takes a vast amount of work, regardless of talent.... that's what you lee cultists don't get.
Bruce lee was the real deal you couldn’t even block his punches if u wanted to. he was extremely fast and very strong he trained every single day this is a fact
Blocking is bullshit. Slip and counter. Bruce Lee is an actor.
He wasn't training correctly. He was in a more primitive time. Those fancy kicks wouldn't have worked against a trained opponent. He would be taken down and submitted before the first min was up. Even on the feet he was useless. He would be killed with leg kicks. Those round house kicks he does in the movies will be blocked easily.
He's strong and fast. But his technical ability is severely lacking. His hands were very under developed. He didn't spar against legit tough guys.
Training every day in BS martial arts means nothing.
Thank you, Chael.
I thought Van Damme had fought in a lot of karate tournaments. Wasn't he a champion in his home country? Not saying Hollywood didn't glorify his abilities but I thought he actually did have a lot of competition in his background.
Bruce... would have a bunch of dumb dumbs come over, then he’ll beat them up” classic chael
Chael the loser who taps
I mean, even if you're a Lee fan he's kind of right, you'd have to be dumb to want to fight Lee lol. Seriously though, Bruce did get into fights with die hard traditionalists because he criticized traditional kungfu and karate for being so outdated. Don't underestimate how sensitive these guys are, especially in China, just look up Xu Xiaodong (Mad Dog) and you'll see, the whole fucking country is out to get him now.
... went in the backyard to fight these guys, they were called - actors.
Lost my shit when he said that
@@MrShitthead
Once Bruce transitioned from the traditional to his MMA philosophies, he was HATED by the Chinese traditional Kung Fu and overall traditional stylists, for being critical of them being limited and myopic.
Xu Xiaodong is carrying on that torch of Bruce, but at least he's an amateur MMA fighter. The Chinese traditionalists HATE him, since he easily beat "masters" that took up his challenge.