UPDATE: During the last tier I mention a lost room tour video, the video was taken sometime in 2012 or 2013 and the video has been lost since. UNTIL January 2024, the video has been found and reuploaded. Here is a link! ua-cam.com/video/xlJTrSlKig4/v-deo.html
I wanna point out that the hair glitch is a result of Sly having an idle animation where he takes his hat off and that, for some reason, translates to his binocucom portrait as well
The Sly games were such a big part of my child hood. Growing up on Sony I played all the mascot games, and the Sly games always stuck out to me. The cast of characters are amazing, the music is sexy and suave, and not to mention the gameplay was simple yet fun. What a great series man. Im so mad we never got a Sly 5 or at least a new gen remaster of the trilogy
Yeah a full new game for the PS5 needs to happen, but I don't know what will convince Sony to do it since it's been in the cold vault for years. Plus they consider that game series to be a mediocre failure commercially, from what I've researched. Inspite of massive fan push to get a new one made, myself included on wanting one.
@@shcdemolisher I'm sure they'll release another, but i would imagine it'll be a lot different than what we know Sly to be, and definitely will happen when we least expect it.
Welcoming you back, PlayStation has the original 3 Sly Coopers available in the store now. Been reliving my childhood 100 percent-ing the games for the last few weeks!
Sly Fan Theory: Sly Cooper is actually Slytunkhamen or Slytunkhamen II. At the end of Sly 4, Sly gets abandoned in Egypt. Without being rescued, it is theorized that Sly becomes Slytunkhamen or Slytunkhamen II, setting forth the events of the creation of the Thievious Racoonus & the Cooper Vault. And it'd make sense about Sly knowing how to use the Shadow Power Thief Technique to go invisible, because he learned how to do that in Sly 1. They also look strikingly similar. Sly was already a master thief by the end of Sly 4, and it'd make sense that Sly would've created the Thievious Racoonus to maintain his family's legacy. It also makes sense that Sly could've created The Cooper Vault to preserve the legacy of every Cooper's Fortune.
*points to **48:35* THAT'S ME WHAAAT. My friend messaged me to tell me I was mentioned in this and I'm SHOOK. I'm glad you thought my goofy lil fanfic was neat! It was a pretty fun passion project!
@@acgearsandarms1343 Said ESRB standards change mate on a constant basis based on whatever "controversy" or "hot topic" is going on at the time Remember mate the ESRB is fully owned / sponsored by the gaming mafia a.k.a Entertainment Software Association made up entirely of all the ceos / presidents of the multi billion publishers hence anything shady is downplayed or diverted away from them Dead Or Alive thousands in monetization ESRB it's optional, legal gambling to minors ESRB in game purchases label, so on and so on
I'm assuming it was cut because laws concerning gambling stuff changed between the OG release and HD release. Mesa City is probably allowed, because you never see any actual gambling being done.
This is currently my favorite video. As a fan of the franchise since 2005 (when I got the first game for Christmas as a 4 year old and became OBSESSED; don't even get me started on how I reacted when I finally learned how to read and found that little thevius raccoonus game manual with hints at the 2nd game), I genuinely thought I knew most all there was to know. And yet now as I watch this, I'm not only surprised but absolutely ECSTATIC to find that there's even more to know about the franchise I grew up with. This video freaking rocks. It's so rare to find any iceberg videos with as much obscure information as this one, this is seriously awesome work
While it's kind of a bummer a lot of interesting entries don't have footage, it surprised me that something was actually new to me. I'm a long time fan of the Cooper Gang, and I seriously thought I knew almost everything about it! Great iceberg!
Ah yeah, I grew up with this game. I remember my two brothers and I got the 2nd one a year or so after it came out and played it religiously. And then we rented 3 and played it like 2 days straight. These days i like playing through the trilogy every few years but I'm not too big into the 4th game.
Anybody wanna hear a sneaky little theory-that's-most-likely-a-fact? I have a very strong suspicion that the reason Carmelita's belly dance sequence exists is because the writer(s) most likely stumbled upon Sly 4: Cane of Destiny -- a fanfic outline written way back in 2009 in gamefaq. The fan fic in question covered what a Sly 4 might look like, and was EXTREMELY DETAILED, down to dialogue, job descriptions, and heist sequences. It was damn near like reading a novelization of a Sly game. The first level had a previously unknown Cooper Ancestor who was a magician, and could turn invisible using his cloak. It also introduced a gunslinging motorcycle-riding wolf character that acted as Carmelita's partner / superior, and had a resurrected Neyla (who used ice powers), Panda King and Jing King join the gang. Where the fanfic ended was in the second chapter, in the middle of the Arabian episode, where the VERY LAST THING written was about how in order to infiltrate a palace, Carmelita, Jing, and Neyla had to don belly dancer outfits (described almost exactly as shown during the slideshow prior to the heist in Thieves in Time). I am convinced that someone in Sanzaru stumbled upon that forum and took that scene and added it into Thieves in Time. The forum thread is still up as of me writing. Google "Sly 4 Cane of Destiny" and it'll be among the top 3
Technical fact about the movie. It was discovered that the trailer for it was actually a pitch Rainmaker submitted to Sony, and they repackaged it as a movie trailer. The film wasn't even in production when 2016 came around.
15:31 actually the objective isn't to last as long as you can, the hacking game actually has a boss fight in the end Edit: I also wanna share that in the Finnish dub of Sly 3 Tsao says "she's a woman, she doesn't get to have opinions" as his sexist line💀
So, here I am at 3:10 AM, just watched an hour and a half Iceberg video of my favorite video game franchise in the world, and I don't regret one second of it. Sly Cooper is one of the most important video game franchises of all time for me, and even if I don't own all the games or merch (or anything like what slycooperrocks101 had 😅), I still loved this Iceberg and am so happy to see that Sly got justice with a Iceberg video of his own. Thank you so much for making this, you definitely earned a sub! BTW, I discovered this shark at 1:38:52 in around 2017 and was absolutely amazed and surprised that no one had posted about it on UA-cam but one guy. I hoped to make a video of my own someday and show this shark and get lots of attention, but I'm happier that it got mentioned on this Iceberg.
Bro another very dark mission u didn't mention: Murray throwing guards at the boiling water pump to destroy it....the painful sounds the guards make traumatized me as a kid
@@necus64 is it in the France one? Episode one. I redid it the other day since I’ve got a ps3 but couldn’t understand what paskal was saying abt them making noises.
Just want to point out for the “Believe you me” dialogue, that is a real English phrase, so Muggshott’s voice actor just ad libbed that part of the line and the subtitles weren’t updated to match.
Here are some things you didn’t talk about that could be worth mentioning in an iceberg video: - The Cooper ancestors are named after Sucker Punch employees - The password is: Chetkido - Sly 3 advertisement on Xmas bus - The Diamond of Tuxmal - Sly Cooper: To Catch a Thief - Sly Cooper manga - Sly 4 has no Japanese release - Moo Goo
1:32:00 - It's not just the Loud House. One of the episodes of the first season of Jeff Goldblum's Disney+ show has two tracks from Thieves in Time: the aforementioned rooftop theme and the main theme. Looking further into it, it seemed these respective tracks were, intentionally or otherwise, bundled into what appears to be a royalty-free music pack that sound engineers and music mixers use for tv. I have yet to find the actual music pack but this is no coincidence.
Great video, love sly cooper and love iceberg videos, very well produced, I just wish there was video footage of all of the entries. Keep up the great work!
I'm so glad you added the fruitcake thing omg. I remember pointing that out to my dad just to confirm that was messed up (he agreed) and I was waiting for you to mention it the whole time
Making a nightmare level with Sly made all the sense in the world because Sly literally WITNESSED HIS PARENTS BEING KILLED IN A (most likely) BRUTAL WAY, that had to cause some trauma or mental toll in him, it's impossible to witnessed something like that and be mentally ok after it, the trilogy missed a good oportunity to expand on that, Sanzaru had a good chance to do something with it but for whatever reason they didn't pulled the plug
My favorite Murray quotes “ I might be big…and not as smart as the other guys… but one thing I’m not is WEAK!” And “The seats gotta go back farther than this.” And finally “ no sly I am not going to help you with violence “
I think the Transylvania level with the bat (whose name was Dr. Mortimor, by the way) is actually from a scrapped game called Network of Thieves originally in development in 2008. I’ve been told it got shelved when Sanzaru started working on what eventually became Sly 4, and it never got recalled.
When you remember Sly Cooper 1 is now on PS5, which has a controller with an integrated microphone. Which means if they bring the rest of the titles on PS5, we could potentially be able to call guards bitches, yet again!
he also has an appearance where he is perched on the tip of a giant skeleton tail in the background. I don’t remember what job that sighting appears on
This is probly one of the longest Neester Videos i watched, worth every fucking second. This man has been a legend ever since i watched His First Video and im very glad i Stuck around ❤
1:32:00 The Paris song was also used in a specific segment of a specific episode of a British TV show called Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway. It was uploaded onto UA-cam as "The Missing Crowd Jewels: Episode 1" and plays from 2:13. A number of tracks from the Sly 2 OST must be available for licensing.
43:28 Knowing its actually canon that Murray was drugged by the Contessa with hallucinogenic "spices" makes this even funnier. Murray has been chasing that purple dragon ever since. Yet another child actor ruined by drugs and alcohol. I hear Bentley staged an intervention 😔😔😔💔💔
1:31:09 Oh my god FINALLY someone mentions this!!! It has always bothered me since the second game that Sly NEVER mentions his mom!! Its always his dad which makes sense and he even mentions BOTH his parents died that night But WHY does he never bring her up otherwise?
I may have somewhat of a theory regarding Dimitri's special intro mentioned at 47:20 So, I once played this demo of Sly 2 (possibly coupled with one of the Ratched & Clank games) and I remember it including the beginning heist from the game as well as this particular trailing mission, nothing else. After the beginning heist the game simply throws you straight into the trailing mission and all the context the demo provides is what Bentley says at the beginning of the mission. We don't get to see the chapter intro introducing Dimitri, so the first time he is shown is when he comes out of the boat. I think there are two (potentially overlapping) possibilities why Dimitri in particular has a special intro: 1) It was merely made with this demo in mind. Given how the player is just dropped into the mission without any other context, this was a way to showcase one of the game's villains for a demo player. And given how the main trio were introduced in a similar manner, it doesn't really look out of place since he _is_ pretty much as important character as them. 2) At the time of making the demo, the devs did intend to have a special intro for each of the bosses as well and they structured the trailing mission's cutscenes with that idea in mind. But for whatever reason, the idea was scrapped for the rest of them. Yet since the special intro was already made for Dimitri _and_ showcased in the demo, they decided to just keep it. Ever since I played the game and the demo, I had theorized 1) to be the reason for this oddly singular villain intro. But this video made me realize that this demo is probably not that well-known _or_ played for most other people to reach the same conclusion. I hope this gave some additional perspective for this.
I also found out that in the second part of the general tsao fight, I accidentally knocked him up instantly killed him, like the attack that kills the guards from behind (using triangle then square). Idk if this was pointed out yet or not, but very interesting! And i might’ve recorded it when I was playing the trilogy version of 3. EDIT: I killed him at half of his hp with the knockup attack, i can provide footage for you if this is intersting enough.
1:24:26 because time travel is confusing he was only planned to be hung because Toothpick showed up, Clockwerk probably got him in the normal timeline when it was restored
In sly 2 I was doing a mission to follow Neyla and I was tryna hit a guard and it hit Neyla and the screen said “job failed “ “Neyla doesent like getting hit anymore than you”
Btw the reason Sly's hat is misplaced during some of the binocucom cutscenes is because he has an idle animation where he leans on his cane and pushes his hat up.
15:06 I remember pressing random buttons and finding this as a kid, i was so excited to show my brother and that is how we found the series. It's a bit sad that newer generations likely won't experience finding something few people know about, considering the all info is on the internet. The plus side now obviously is you're less likley to miss out on something these days.
I was working on developing Sly Cooper 4 DLC for fun, incorporating the Egypt level & whatnot. While I'm currently focused on another game, I do hope to revisit the project in the future. Also #freeslyfromegypt
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the 3D sections of Sly 3 are still in 3D on the PS3. The PS3 has 3D TV support, and if you have a 3D TV then those sections are in 3D!
1:30:24 Yes!! I remember that! I’m glad someone else finally mentioned that!! I remember watching that in 2007 and remember when the game was announced and remembering that UA-camr predict the future title!!! I remember his videos starting with the Link song: Link he come to town. Man 2007 feels like a lifetime ago, but I remember UA-cam and the internet from back then!!!
-i dont know who the hell sly cooper is- but OVER ONE AND A HALF HOURS OF NEESTER GAWD DAYUM and it appears the reason why i didnt know who sly cooper was is stated in the video. neat.
Lots of good info here, I do however have one correction. 1:38:50 We do have something of an idea. Because her look for the TV series got leaked, and since they were following a more simplified movie design, we can guess just how much more detailed it would've been.
@@winnerdinger589The Artist was J. Splaz. He'd been posting online randomly after the official cancellation. I caught some of it back when he had a Twitter; both official and rejected arts. Of course since the project failed, I guess that means they're ALL rejected concept arts.
another funny thing about the tso thing with him shrinking and growing if you look at 50:30 you can see it happen on the guard as well ig the models do that for some reason
More entries I'd like to add: In Sly 3 you can glitch into most werehouses using Bently's remote camera bomb and spamming the graple. This can sometimes pass some narrow gaps, even the treasure room in the skull fort in episode 5. In the same episode while sailing and fighting other captains, it is possible to one-shot a captain with the triangle triangle X or 3triple triangle X with sly. this happened to me only once. something that maybe belong to the upper layers but Murry's triangle square move is almost an insta kill to anything, a stun and a kick. Panda King has only two playable missions, he too got a binocucom. Bently's sucking vortex bomb can be detonated mid air. this will cause the target to tuble as it shrink. (had lots of fun doing this on the plane's ramp in episode 3). In the presentation of bently for operation Moonfall, one slide will show Bently from Sly 2 using the mojo collector. Sly cant hit a flashligh guard with a triangle X move that has more than one triangle (guess they are too heavy.) and lastly a well known theory is circulating that the Clockwerck is a time guardian trying to destroy the Sly paradox which came to be since Sly ends in Egypt and become the first ancestor. (there is a video showing that the egyptian Sly in Sly 3 And in sly 1 are two different racoons as one is the 1st and the other is 3rd or 2nd or something like that) the Clockwerk got corrupted since each ancestor dies solves nothing because the only family memeber that should have died is Sly himself. one last thing that I cannot prove since my PS3 and PS2 arent working as intended- while playing as Dimitri and going to the surface if possible (like in episode 5) his bionocucum/ scuba diving goggles change a bit.
As a kid born in 2002 and grew up with games, Sly being my fave franchise. Im more surprised at how much I already knew about this stuff due to me constantly playing the series over and over. Like how I would use the bouncy cheese as Carmalita in the Mugshot bossfight because it made the fight tediously easy too discover that little cutscene glitch. To remembering the old youtube videos of the guy doing edits for their own Sly 4 thieves in time. I could never forget that and if I recall correctly it included Bently jumping constantly to "If you wanna be my lover"? No clue but thanks for this retour down memory lane. I enjoyed the re-ride.
In regards to Bentley (Matt Olsen) saying ‘That’s a nice one.’ It was an older line but was overlooked when they were replacing with new audio. Matt wasn’t available to to record a new line due to attending a family members funeral which was in a different country. They were going to mix something out of what they already had but Matt wouldn’t sign to say he would allow them to do so (it wasn’t part of his original contract for them to remix his personal dialogue) Matt insisted he wasn’t trying to be difficult but wasn’t in the right mind frame to be signing anything that would allow them to use his voice recordings not as originally intended in the future.
Carmelitas character was eviscerated in Sly4. The belly dance level would have fit perfectly in probably a different level tbh. Bro you can see her ribs too.
23:19 The Sly 1 demo (the official one that takes place at the beginning of Wales, not New Thief In Town) even has Sly mention having already taken down Panda King. And what special move did you apparently learn from the Panda King's section of the Thevious Raccoonus? Climbing. Like on ladders.
My nephew found the "Murray picking up the dynamite" thing out of nowhere, I been playing Sly Cooper for YEARS and never ever knew you could do that! Dude's a guru😄😄
One thing I never noticed anybody bring up is why in Sly 2, the Clockwerk parts just keep changing size throughout the game. In the animated cutscenes, the tail feathers, which in game were pretty massive next to Sly, were so tiny that Sly was able to hold them in his hand. Same with the eyes. Clockwerk's fully built body also changed size a couple times throughout the last episode as well. His body became MUCH larger when you landed on Clock-La during the last mission.
56:57 Arpeggio/Clock-La only gets one chapter as well. 1:08:22 Also, why was Ballroom Dance Party a "fucked up one"? It's a super short mission. What's fucked up about that? I thought you were going to say something dark lol
Just completed a sly cooper marathon and I loved every single game. As someone who missed out on the hype of Sly growing up, coming back to these games in 2024, really makes me wish they didn’t leave 4 in a cliff hangar like that. Also Sly and the gang are some of the better written characters compared to ratchet and clank and jak and daxter, imo.
0:53 this game was so good that i don't know anyone that has played the first game but most people at least remember the 2nd. I played through it dozens of times. It's one of my earliest memories even, with gran turismo 4 (the seattle circuit to be exact) was my 2nd memory (1st one is pooping my diaper in case someone was wondering, which you weren't but now you know)
Another thing about Panda King being first: Sly was originally going to learn the “climb” move from Panda King’s vault, but Sucker Punch made it to where he could climb things from the start and changed Panda King’s Thievius Raccoonus pages to contain a turret and a battering ram added to the Cooper Van.
He also heavily foreshadows what move he's about to do next during his boss fight, which is odd considering Sir Raleigh, Muggshot and Mz. Ruby don't do that; reinforcing that the Panda King was meant to be the first boss.
OMG!! You mentioned slycooperrocks101!! I used to watch them all the time! I thought they were so cool. I dreamed of having their room 😂 Their videos forever live in my memories 🖤
1:21:40 On the version of the Demo I had, it actually had the final voice actor for Murray reading these lines saying Bentley doesn't have to treat him like a child. I played the demo over and over as a kid until I could get the full game
I thought I was crazy! That Mz Ruby fight was so bad in the port, but I had no idea there was a legitimate reason for it. I just assumed it was harder than I remembered it being or something
There is a glitch in Go West Young Raccoon (Sly 4) where standing on a ledge with Tennesee Kid Cooper and shooting his gun puts him in T-pose with his gun floating next to him.
I know it’s newer info but for anyone finding this now, 2CPhoenix has done an incredible breakdown of Sly 2 and one big thing they discover through exploration of pre-release stuff and interviews is that Sly 2 originally had a series of collectible loot paintings inside buildings. This explains a bunch of things on the iceberg like the room with no purpose in the nightclub, the briefcases above Dimitri’s office and the save vault door in the spice room.
You forgot about the ending of Sly 2 and how the part where Clockwork lands in Paris was changed from the gang having to each go the center because they all landed in different places, to what it was at release to them standing all at the same place. There was also likely something else, maybe a fight or destruction, since a piece of scenery could be destroyed with some destruction animation for it. Plus there's a very rare chance where in Cairo where if you dive down on a certain table, the table will fling you up the map. Prob common but mega jumping into the safe house on episode 3. Plus the name changes for some loot between versions. Maybe also mention how sanzaru just removed behind the scenes and some trailers from sly 1+2 cuz they suck. Prob more I cant remember but this is what I feel like you missed.
I genuinely do not understand the hate Sly 4 gets, the ending wasn't great granted but it's not that far off from the Uncharted 4 ending and that game gets tons of praise. But otherwise it's got fun gameplay, solid locations, and the ancestors provided some variety of styles of gameplay. It's not a 10 but it's certainly not the dumpster fire people act like it is.
![EVERY SLY COOPER MISSION RANKED [WORST TO BEST]](/img/n.gif)
UPDATE: During the last tier I mention a lost room tour video, the video was taken sometime in 2012 or 2013 and the video has been lost since. UNTIL January 2024, the video has been found and reuploaded. Here is a link! ua-cam.com/video/xlJTrSlKig4/v-deo.html
So obnoxious
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I’m just going
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Omggggg i remember seeing this!!
I wanna point out that the hair glitch is a result of Sly having an idle animation where he takes his hat off and that, for some reason, translates to his binocucom portrait as well
Not why it happens...
@@BR-ty3hx If you say so, but what I said has been my experience with it.
@@Steel_Bison you can't hit a job marker while in an idle animation...so that literally can't cause it
@@BR-ty3hx I wasn't referring to a job marker. There's binocucom conversations that go on for so long that Sly starts doing idle animations
@@Steel_Bison that's not what causes the hair glitch though.
The Sly games were such a big part of my child hood. Growing up on Sony I played all the mascot games, and the Sly games always stuck out to me. The cast of characters are amazing, the music is sexy and suave, and not to mention the gameplay was simple yet fun. What a great series man. Im so mad we never got a Sly 5 or at least a new gen remaster of the trilogy
Yeah a full new game for the PS5 needs to happen, but I don't know what will convince Sony to do it since it's been in the cold vault for years. Plus they consider that game series to be a mediocre failure commercially, from what I've researched. Inspite of massive fan push to get a new one made, myself included on wanting one.
@@shcdemolisher I'm sure they'll release another, but i would imagine it'll be a lot different than what we know Sly to be, and definitely will happen when we least expect it.
Hey at least they re released sly 1 and sly 2 remaster on the current gen! Sly 2 is coming very soon apparently.
I’m at this point just waiting for a remake of the trilogy and just…make 4 not canon anymore. I’m fine with sky ending at 3 like it should’ve.
Welcoming you back, PlayStation has the original 3 Sly Coopers available in the store now. Been reliving my childhood 100 percent-ing the games for the last few weeks!
The name “Conner” was actually confirmed in the Sly Collection Official Straregy Guide when the game (and book) first released in 2010.
Does it show his face please tell me it shows his face
Sly Fan Theory: Sly Cooper is actually Slytunkhamen or Slytunkhamen II.
At the end of Sly 4, Sly gets abandoned in Egypt. Without being rescued, it is theorized that Sly becomes Slytunkhamen or Slytunkhamen II, setting forth the events of the creation of the Thievious Racoonus & the Cooper Vault. And it'd make sense about Sly knowing how to use the Shadow Power Thief Technique to go invisible, because he learned how to do that in Sly 1.
They also look strikingly similar. Sly was already a master thief by the end of Sly 4, and it'd make sense that Sly would've created the Thievious Racoonus to maintain his family's legacy. It also makes sense that Sly could've created The Cooper Vault to preserve the legacy of every Cooper's Fortune.
Wouldn't that make Sly his own ancestor?
@@murrhurr4480 yuh, that's called a Paradox.
That a bootstrap paradox where did the invisibility power originate from
So what did Sly do to supposedly start the long standing grudge with Clockwerk?
Also gotta add the fact he wasn’t In Sly 4. This gotta be my fav theory
*points to **48:35* THAT'S ME WHAAAT. My friend messaged me to tell me I was mentioned in this and I'm SHOOK. I'm glad you thought my goofy lil fanfic was neat! It was a pretty fun passion project!
Good job :)
"There I am, Gary! There I am!"
What do you mean the gambling scene was cut?! It's a game that revolves around stealing, and they draw the line at GAMBLING?!
Rating boards have weird standards
Then why did they allow Mesa City as a level in Sly 1? Their standards make no sense sometimes.
@@acgearsandarms1343 Said ESRB standards change mate on a constant basis based on whatever "controversy" or "hot topic" is going on at the time
Remember mate the ESRB is fully owned / sponsored by the gaming mafia a.k.a Entertainment Software Association made up entirely of all the ceos / presidents of the multi billion publishers hence anything shady is downplayed or diverted away from them
Dead Or Alive thousands in monetization ESRB it's optional, legal gambling to minors ESRB in game purchases label, so on and so on
@@acgearsandarms1343lol RIGHT AN ENTIRE CASINO !?
I'm assuming it was cut because laws concerning gambling stuff changed between the OG release and HD release. Mesa City is probably allowed, because you never see any actual gambling being done.
This is currently my favorite video. As a fan of the franchise since 2005 (when I got the first game for Christmas as a 4 year old and became OBSESSED; don't even get me started on how I reacted when I finally learned how to read and found that little thevius raccoonus game manual with hints at the 2nd game), I genuinely thought I knew most all there was to know. And yet now as I watch this, I'm not only surprised but absolutely ECSTATIC to find that there's even more to know about the franchise I grew up with. This video freaking rocks. It's so rare to find any iceberg videos with as much obscure information as this one, this is seriously awesome work
Totally agree buddy
I’m shocked you didn’t talk about the arduous racing level from Sly 1, literally made me nearly give up the whole series. Awesome video nonetheless
You mean the Murray race thingy? Yea that was suffering
Its not too bad once you try it 15 times in a row c'mon
I beat it in one go on the PS5. Don’t worry I had a streneous time with that part growing up as well.
They’re not that hard come on
While it's kind of a bummer a lot of interesting entries don't have footage, it surprised me that something was actually new to me.
I'm a long time fan of the Cooper Gang, and I seriously thought I knew almost everything about it!
Great iceberg!
Ah yeah, I grew up with this game. I remember my two brothers and I got the 2nd one a year or so after it came out and played it religiously. And then we rented 3 and played it like 2 days straight. These days i like playing through the trilogy every few years but I'm not too big into the 4th game.
Anybody wanna hear a sneaky little theory-that's-most-likely-a-fact? I have a very strong suspicion that the reason Carmelita's belly dance sequence exists is because the writer(s) most likely stumbled upon Sly 4: Cane of Destiny -- a fanfic outline written way back in 2009 in gamefaq. The fan fic in question covered what a Sly 4 might look like, and was EXTREMELY DETAILED, down to dialogue, job descriptions, and heist sequences. It was damn near like reading a novelization of a Sly game. The first level had a previously unknown Cooper Ancestor who was a magician, and could turn invisible using his cloak. It also introduced a gunslinging motorcycle-riding wolf character that acted as Carmelita's partner / superior, and had a resurrected Neyla (who used ice powers), Panda King and Jing King join the gang. Where the fanfic ended was in the second chapter, in the middle of the Arabian episode, where the VERY LAST THING written was about how in order to infiltrate a palace, Carmelita, Jing, and Neyla had to don belly dancer outfits (described almost exactly as shown during the slideshow prior to the heist in Thieves in Time). I am convinced that someone in Sanzaru stumbled upon that forum and took that scene and added it into Thieves in Time.
The forum thread is still up as of me writing. Google "Sly 4 Cane of Destiny" and it'll be among the top 3
Ohhhh wow. I had ZERO idea that happened.
Bizarre
Technical fact about the movie. It was discovered that the trailer for it was actually a pitch Rainmaker submitted to Sony, and they repackaged it as a movie trailer. The film wasn't even in production when 2016 came around.
15:31 actually the objective isn't to last as long as you can, the hacking game actually has a boss fight in the end
Edit: I also wanna share that in the Finnish dub of Sly 3 Tsao says "she's a woman, she doesn't get to have opinions" as his sexist line💀
Holy shit that lines even worse!! XD
*Horseshoe subject*
"Kinda like a totem in Minecraft!"
*Eye twitches from everyone who ever played Crash Bandicoot...*
What about the floating heart thingies in Rayman Legends? They also act as a single-use shield for otherwise a character that dies in a single hit
So, here I am at 3:10 AM, just watched an hour and a half Iceberg video of my favorite video game franchise in the world, and I don't regret one second of it.
Sly Cooper is one of the most important video game franchises of all time for me, and even if I don't own all the games or merch (or anything like what slycooperrocks101 had 😅), I still loved this Iceberg and am so happy to see that Sly got justice with a Iceberg video of his own. Thank you so much for making this, you definitely earned a sub!
BTW, I discovered this shark at 1:38:52 in around 2017 and was absolutely amazed and surprised that no one had posted about it on UA-cam but one guy.
I hoped to make a video of my own someday and show this shark and get lots of attention, but I'm happier that it got mentioned on this Iceberg.
41:46 "Bentley, you've created a time paradox.... Fantastic work, the wheelchair hasn't slowed ya down one bit!"
Bro another very dark mission u didn't mention: Murray throwing guards at the boiling water pump to destroy it....the painful sounds the guards make traumatized me as a kid
what game is that in? I dont remember that
@@Freddyfredster in Sly 2
@@necus64 is it in the France one? Episode one. I redid it the other day since I’ve got a ps3 but couldn’t understand what paskal was saying abt them making noises.
@@Freddyfredster yes in the France episode
i love iceberg videos totally happy you did one! thank you for asking me to do some art for you >:3
@CibRubber no
Honestly your best video to date
Its interesting, well edited, everything a good video needs
Just want to point out for the “Believe you me” dialogue, that is a real English phrase, so Muggshott’s voice actor just ad libbed that part of the line and the subtitles weren’t updated to match.
Here are some things you didn’t talk about that could be worth mentioning in an iceberg video:
- The Cooper ancestors are named after Sucker Punch employees
- The password is: Chetkido
- Sly 3 advertisement on Xmas bus
- The Diamond of Tuxmal
- Sly Cooper: To Catch a Thief
- Sly Cooper manga
- Sly 4 has no Japanese release
- Moo Goo
Can you explain on these
Who is watching this in 2025 after the games got rereleased on psn
1:32:00 - It's not just the Loud House. One of the episodes of the first season of Jeff Goldblum's Disney+ show has two tracks from Thieves in Time: the aforementioned rooftop theme and the main theme. Looking further into it, it seemed these respective tracks were, intentionally or otherwise, bundled into what appears to be a royalty-free music pack that sound engineers and music mixers use for tv. I have yet to find the actual music pack but this is no coincidence.
Great video, love sly cooper and love iceberg videos, very well produced, I just wish there was video footage of all of the entries. Keep up the great work!
I'm so glad you added the fruitcake thing omg. I remember pointing that out to my dad just to confirm that was messed up (he agreed) and I was waiting for you to mention it the whole time
Making a nightmare level with Sly made all the sense in the world because Sly literally WITNESSED HIS PARENTS BEING KILLED IN A (most likely) BRUTAL WAY, that had to cause some trauma or mental toll in him, it's impossible to witnessed something like that and be mentally ok after it, the trilogy missed a good oportunity to expand on that, Sanzaru had a good chance to do something with it but for whatever reason they didn't pulled the plug
My favorite Murray quotes
“ I might be big…and not as smart as the other guys… but one thing I’m not is WEAK!”
And
“The seats gotta go back farther than this.”
And finally
“ no sly I am not going to help you with violence “
I think the Transylvania level with the bat (whose name was Dr. Mortimor, by the way) is actually from a scrapped game called Network of Thieves originally in development in 2008. I’ve been told it got shelved when Sanzaru started working on what eventually became Sly 4, and it never got recalled.
When you remember Sly Cooper 1 is now on PS5, which has a controller with an integrated microphone. Which means if they bring the rest of the titles on PS5, we could potentially be able to call guards bitches, yet again!
Hi! They Brought Sly 2 and 3 over to ps5
6:08 I have never seen Clockwork in episode 3, I always thought they didn't put an Easter egg there because he just didn't exist yet
he also has an appearance where he is perched on the tip of a giant skeleton tail in the background. I don’t remember what job that sighting appears on
ALMOST 2 HOURS OF NEESTERHERE!?!? 😍
He sounds so professional 😭 if i had a biography this man needs to be the narrator.
This is probly one of the longest Neester Videos i watched, worth every fucking second. This man has been a legend ever since i watched His First Video and im very glad i Stuck around ❤
1:34:18 I got curious and did some digging, and I'm fairly sure I found the video in question. It's uploaded on my channel.
Thank you for your service!!
Thx
Very well made video and really good iceberg. Awesome stuff 🔥🔥
1:32:00 The Paris song was also used in a specific segment of a specific episode of a British TV show called Ant and Dec's Saturday Night Takeaway. It was uploaded onto UA-cam as "The Missing Crowd Jewels: Episode 1" and plays from 2:13. A number of tracks from the Sly 2 OST must be available for licensing.
The canonically calling a guard a bitch section had me laughing so hard lol
Oh hey, that's me at 51:11
43:28 Knowing its actually canon that Murray was drugged by the Contessa with hallucinogenic "spices" makes this even funnier. Murray has been chasing that purple dragon ever since. Yet another child actor ruined by drugs and alcohol.
I hear Bentley staged an intervention 😔😔😔💔💔
28:40 also a cool detail with the checkpoints actually in game, is that whenever it gets activated it takes a picture of sly
A movie length of neesterhere😩👌
Can't believe the amount of work and research that went into making this video! The result is absolutely amazing!
1:31:09
Oh my god FINALLY someone mentions this!!! It has always bothered me since the second game that Sly NEVER mentions his mom!! Its always his dad which makes sense and he even mentions BOTH his parents died that night
But WHY does he never bring her up otherwise?
They likely didn't consider her role in the story and said "let's pretend she's not important at all"
@SodaFrizz666 if anything that only makes me more curious
I may have somewhat of a theory regarding Dimitri's special intro mentioned at 47:20
So, I once played this demo of Sly 2 (possibly coupled with one of the Ratched & Clank games) and I remember it including the beginning heist from the game as well as this particular trailing mission, nothing else. After the beginning heist the game simply throws you straight into the trailing mission and all the context the demo provides is what Bentley says at the beginning of the mission. We don't get to see the chapter intro introducing Dimitri, so the first time he is shown is when he comes out of the boat.
I think there are two (potentially overlapping) possibilities why Dimitri in particular has a special intro:
1) It was merely made with this demo in mind. Given how the player is just dropped into the mission without any other context, this was a way to showcase one of the game's villains for a demo player. And given how the main trio were introduced in a similar manner, it doesn't really look out of place since he _is_ pretty much as important character as them.
2) At the time of making the demo, the devs did intend to have a special intro for each of the bosses as well and they structured the trailing mission's cutscenes with that idea in mind. But for whatever reason, the idea was scrapped for the rest of them. Yet since the special intro was already made for Dimitri _and_ showcased in the demo, they decided to just keep it.
Ever since I played the game and the demo, I had theorized 1) to be the reason for this oddly singular villain intro. But this video made me realize that this demo is probably not that well-known _or_ played for most other people to reach the same conclusion. I hope this gave some additional perspective for this.
I also found out that in the second part of the general tsao fight, I accidentally knocked him up instantly killed him, like the attack that kills the guards from behind (using triangle then square). Idk if this was pointed out yet or not, but very interesting! And i might’ve recorded it when I was playing the trilogy version of 3.
EDIT:
I killed him at half of his hp with the knockup attack, i can provide footage for you if this is intersting enough.
@@otdreamer193I uploaded it you can check it out.
Idk if my comments were getting deleted for having a link or not so sorry if I am spamming you
was gonna comment this but you did you can use a couple moves to make tsao vunrable to the sneek attack i use the knockout dive i think
this is a known glitch, i remember seeing it on youtube 10 years ago
I actually found this out after I defeated him for a split sec it activated the silent obliteration move
Lmao love that you left this part in. I love when people slip up on their words like that and just roll with it and the gif was perfect😂😂😂 7:49
the Sly Cooper rocks 101 video has actualy been re-uploaded a few months after this video launched
You freaked the hell out of me with those eyes in the background of the last iceberg fact.
Unpopular opinion
Sly 4 thieves in times may not be the best but certainly is a very valid sequel
I agree. I think it’s a good game. its writing is terrible, but as long as it’s fun to play, it’s valid imo
neester:THIS IS THE SICKEST SHIT EVER
serious neester:welcome to my iceberg
1:24:26 because time travel is confusing he was only planned to be hung because Toothpick showed up, Clockwerk probably got him in the normal timeline when it was restored
3:09 uhhh hearing this theme made my heart jump!
In sly 2 I was doing a mission to follow Neyla and I was tryna hit a guard and it hit Neyla and the screen said “job failed “
“Neyla doesent like getting hit anymore than you”
Nice video! I love sly cooper and this appearing in my feed brought back a lot of memories
there’s a lot to unpack with that PSP Carmelita concept art… what are those sound effects for her spinning her gun?
Btw the reason Sly's hat is misplaced during some of the binocucom cutscenes is because he has an idle animation where he leans on his cane and pushes his hat up.
15:06 I remember pressing random buttons and finding this as a kid, i was so excited to show my brother and that is how we found the series. It's a bit sad that newer generations likely won't experience finding something few people know about, considering the all info is on the internet. The plus side now obviously is you're less likley to miss out on something these days.
I miss my boy sly cooper bro where'd he go 😭
(Murray is the best character)
I was working on developing Sly Cooper 4 DLC for fun, incorporating the Egypt level & whatnot. While I'm currently focused on another game, I do hope to revisit the project in the future.
Also #freeslyfromegypt
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but the 3D sections of Sly 3 are still in 3D on the PS3. The PS3 has 3D TV support, and if you have a 3D TV then those sections are in 3D!
1:30:24 Yes!! I remember that! I’m glad someone else finally mentioned that!! I remember watching that in 2007 and remember when the game was announced and remembering that UA-camr predict the future title!!! I remember his videos starting with the Link song: Link he come to town. Man 2007 feels like a lifetime ago, but I remember UA-cam and the internet from back then!!!
In one of the last Grand Tour episodes by the top gear crew- the sly 2 Paris rooftops theme is played when James May first appears with his car
I still play the trilogy on PS2 after 2 decades as Sly Cooper is my favorite video game franchise aside from Grand Theft Auto.
-i dont know who the hell sly cooper is- but OVER ONE AND A HALF HOURS OF NEESTER
GAWD DAYUM
and it appears the reason why i didnt know who sly cooper was is stated in the video. neat.
Lots of good info here, I do however have one correction.
1:38:50 We do have something of an idea. Because her look for the TV series got leaked, and since they were following a more simplified movie design, we can guess just how much more detailed it would've been.
Where was this leak at?
@@winnerdinger589The Artist was J. Splaz. He'd been posting online randomly after the official cancellation. I caught some of it back when he had a Twitter; both official and rejected arts. Of course since the project failed, I guess that means they're ALL rejected concept arts.
1:14:29
I couldn't find a picture of it either.
Which is crazy because every other Binocucom has been documented.
Bro your so fucking quick with this shit man great work also i would love to see more iceberg videos
another funny thing about the tso thing with him shrinking and growing if you look at 50:30 you can see it happen on the guard as well ig the models do that for some reason
More entries I'd like to add: In Sly 3 you can glitch into most werehouses using Bently's remote camera bomb and spamming the graple. This can sometimes pass some narrow gaps, even the treasure room in the skull fort in episode 5. In the same episode while sailing and fighting other captains, it is possible to one-shot a captain with the triangle triangle X or 3triple triangle X with sly. this happened to me only once. something that maybe belong to the upper layers but Murry's triangle square move is almost an insta kill to anything, a stun and a kick. Panda King has only two playable missions, he too got a binocucom. Bently's sucking vortex bomb can be detonated mid air. this will cause the target to tuble as it shrink. (had lots of fun doing this on the plane's ramp in episode 3). In the presentation of bently for operation Moonfall, one slide will show Bently from Sly 2 using the mojo collector. Sly cant hit a flashligh guard with a triangle X move that has more than one triangle (guess they are too heavy.) and lastly a well known theory is circulating that the Clockwerck is a time guardian trying to destroy the Sly paradox which came to be since Sly ends in Egypt and become the first ancestor. (there is a video showing that the egyptian Sly in Sly 3 And in sly 1 are two different racoons as one is the 1st and the other is 3rd or 2nd or something like that) the Clockwerk got corrupted since each ancestor dies solves nothing because the only family memeber that should have died is Sly himself. one last thing that I cannot prove since my PS3 and PS2 arent working as intended- while playing as Dimitri and going to the surface if possible (like in episode 5) his bionocucum/ scuba diving goggles change a bit.
1:20:30 I’ve been gaslit my whole life thinking that “believe you me” was a legit phrase
As a kid born in 2002 and grew up with games, Sly being my fave franchise. Im more surprised at how much I already knew about this stuff due to me constantly playing the series over and over. Like how I would use the bouncy cheese as Carmalita in the Mugshot bossfight because it made the fight tediously easy too discover that little cutscene glitch. To remembering the old youtube videos of the guy doing edits for their own Sly 4 thieves in time. I could never forget that and if I recall correctly it included Bently jumping constantly to "If you wanna be my lover"? No clue but thanks for this retour down memory lane. I enjoyed the re-ride.
In regards to Bentley (Matt Olsen) saying ‘That’s a nice one.’ It was an older line but was overlooked when they were replacing with new audio. Matt wasn’t available to to record a new line due to attending a family members funeral which was in a different country. They were going to mix something out of what they already had but Matt wouldn’t sign to say he would allow them to do so (it wasn’t part of his original contract for them to remix his personal dialogue) Matt insisted he wasn’t trying to be difficult but wasn’t in the right mind frame to be signing anything that would allow them to use his voice recordings not as originally intended in the future.
37:45 I always thought Gorilla was a fun spin on Guerrilla.
Probably the best sly cooper related video for any sly fan. I salute your efforts
Carmelitas character was eviscerated in Sly4. The belly dance level would have fit perfectly in probably a different level tbh.
Bro you can see her ribs too.
This is by far one of the best Iceberg videos ever made
23:19 The Sly 1 demo (the official one that takes place at the beginning of Wales, not New Thief In Town) even has Sly mention having already taken down Panda King. And what special move did you apparently learn from the Panda King's section of the Thevious Raccoonus? Climbing. Like on ladders.
34:00 actually, the loot you see in the overworlds were originally supposed to be in interiors and this was one of the locations for them
My nephew found the "Murray picking up the dynamite" thing out of nowhere, I been playing Sly Cooper for YEARS and never ever knew you could do that! Dude's a guru😄😄
One thing I never noticed anybody bring up is why in Sly 2, the Clockwerk parts just keep changing size throughout the game. In the animated cutscenes, the tail feathers, which in game were pretty massive next to Sly, were so tiny that Sly was able to hold them in his hand. Same with the eyes.
Clockwerk's fully built body also changed size a couple times throughout the last episode as well. His body became MUCH larger when you landed on Clock-La during the last mission.
I think its funny that the crowd in the dance scene in episode 2 doesn’t hear Murray saw off the wings or taking them off the statue lol 😆
Ive never heard of this game and now im interesed im going to go try it all out. Wish me like
Oh my gosh! Did you play them? I'd love to hear the experience of someone new to the series!!
56:57 Arpeggio/Clock-La only gets one chapter as well.
1:08:22 Also, why was Ballroom Dance Party a "fucked up one"? It's a super short mission. What's fucked up about that? I thought you were going to say something dark lol
Just completed a sly cooper marathon and I loved every single game. As someone who missed out on the hype of Sly growing up, coming back to these games in 2024, really makes me wish they didn’t leave 4 in a cliff hangar like that. Also Sly and the gang are some of the better written characters compared to ratchet and clank and jak and daxter, imo.
Me too
0:53 this game was so good that i don't know anyone that has played the first game but most people at least remember the 2nd. I played through it dozens of times. It's one of my earliest memories even, with gran turismo 4 (the seattle circuit to be exact) was my 2nd memory (1st one is pooping my diaper in case someone was wondering, which you weren't but now you know)
1:00:32 - When you get the intern to voice your character and they're going through puberty
37:40 the mercenaries in taht art reminder me of gorrilas, so i guess if they are guerilla warfare pun
27:51 I always thought of it as a evolution of his character
Another thing about Panda King being first: Sly was originally going to learn the “climb” move from Panda King’s vault, but Sucker Punch made it to where he could climb things from the start and changed Panda King’s Thievius Raccoonus pages to contain a turret and a battering ram added to the Cooper Van.
He also heavily foreshadows what move he's about to do next during his boss fight, which is odd considering Sir Raleigh, Muggshot and Mz. Ruby don't do that; reinforcing that the Panda King was meant to be the first boss.
fun fact: in the german boxart of sly 4, it says “sly cooper: jagd durch die zeit” which translates to “sly cooper: the hunt through time”
OMG!! You mentioned slycooperrocks101!! I used to watch them all the time! I thought they were so cool. I dreamed of having their room 😂 Their videos forever live in my memories 🖤
1:21:40 On the version of the Demo I had, it actually had the final voice actor for Murray reading these lines saying Bentley doesn't have to treat him like a child. I played the demo over and over as a kid until I could get the full game
I always thought those weird black shadows on Murray’s mask were oil stains.
I thought I was crazy! That Mz Ruby fight was so bad in the port, but I had no idea there was a legitimate reason for it. I just assumed it was harder than I remembered it being or something
There is a glitch in Go West Young Raccoon (Sly 4) where standing on a ledge with Tennesee Kid Cooper and shooting his gun puts him in T-pose with his gun floating next to him.
I know it’s newer info but for anyone finding this now, 2CPhoenix has done an incredible breakdown of Sly 2 and one big thing they discover through exploration of pre-release stuff and interviews is that Sly 2 originally had a series of collectible loot paintings inside buildings. This explains a bunch of things on the iceberg like the room with no purpose in the nightclub, the briefcases above Dimitri’s office and the save vault door in the spice room.
You forgot about the ending of Sly 2 and how the part where Clockwork lands in Paris was changed from the gang having to each go the center because they all landed in different places, to what it was at release to them standing all at the same place. There was also likely something else, maybe a fight or destruction, since a piece of scenery could be destroyed with some destruction animation for it. Plus there's a very rare chance where in Cairo where if you dive down on a certain table, the table will fling you up the map. Prob common but mega jumping into the safe house on episode 3. Plus the name changes for some loot between versions. Maybe also mention how sanzaru just removed behind the scenes and some trailers from sly 1+2 cuz they suck. Prob more I cant remember but this is what I feel like you missed.
34:00 that secret room was likely just going to be where a treasure would be hidden
I genuinely do not understand the hate Sly 4 gets, the ending wasn't great granted but it's not that far off from the Uncharted 4 ending and that game gets tons of praise. But otherwise it's got fun gameplay, solid locations, and the ancestors provided some variety of styles of gameplay. It's not a 10 but it's certainly not the dumpster fire people act like it is.
its amazing to finally get confirmation that the fanmade sly 4 video was actually real and not something i imagined 😂
32:29 Not gonna lie, I find the original Murray voice with the context to be hilarious 🤣
Man, this video is awesome.