This was the last of the original American Infinity. I sold the smaller Kappa's, the RS-0000/RS-0001. Over the 85-90, after 90/91, HK/infinity were just consumer speakers. It is so nice to see a beautiful PC of infinity history continue. Thank you Paul
Great that you let us feel with you. Those speakers were your companions for a quarter of your life and service you and your PS Audio endeavour so well! Wish Mery X-Mas to your team and families and a Happy New Year!
They are not 1985 speakers. You just rebuilt them a year or two ago and made a lot of changes to them. In the car world we would call them "resto-mods" not a numbers matching reference car. Glad to see you are giving the V's more room. What gets me is why not the new speakers in the bigger room? Imho the bigger V's can fill the larger room with sound as apposed smaller will not. When I was a kid Polk Audio mini's were the rage. Great sounding speakers but were just to small to fill anything with sound beside a car interior and that's what we used them for.
@@graxjpg Any changes from the way it came off the showroom floor and it is not a reference Rav 4 and even though it's not a show car it still would be considered a resto mod. Just because Paul did it means nothing, it was still done. They are not the same speakers that came out of Infinity's shop, good or bad.
Smaller speakers, smaller room. Bigger speakers, bigger room. The room is part of the acoustic system; the room loads the output from the speaker in the bass range, and the reflective surfaces are a certain distance away impacting the flight time of reflected energy. A bigger room sounds 'grander' because of these two phenomena.
Finally. I always thought that IRSV deserves bigger space. When I heard its sound in the old PS Audio building, full of sounds in the room but it was too much, I felt it's saturated.
It's too small of a room and the wall/ceiling construction/treatment isn't optimal for those speakers.. for those speakers you need a LOT of low frequency management built into the walls and ceiling and quite possibly even the floor. Plus, you need a bigger room. Those sub woofer towers are very tall and the ceiling dimension is typically the shortest dimension in the room, thus creating Axial modes between the floor and ceiling generating peaks and nulls.. If you have a 9 ft ceiling, you ARE going to have Axial room mode issues. Those things are going to need at LEAST a 14ft ceiling, and STILL need low frequency absorption in the ceiling, which makes the ceiling probably 14 or even 16inch deep with lots of dense materials, etc. They might even need the floor to have low frequency absorption to manage the amount of energy coming out of those speakers. Remember, there's 12 12inch powered sub woofers capable of a LOT of low frequency energy down to 16hz… Then you would need a wide room to handle the 4 cabinets and then a longer distance in the length, and again, low frequency management built into the walls using a variety of dense materials, etc. That room, neither of his rooms are big enough, and with proper construction, etc. to handle that speaker system to produce it's optimal sound quality. Yes, I'm sure his bigger room does sound better than the other room, but it's STILL not big enough, or built using the right materials, etc. That's the problem with those 4 cabinet tower systems. Other companies like Gryphon, MBL, Steinway Lyndorf and others make 4 cabinet systems with large sub towers and they really need large rooms, tall ceilings, and a lot of low frequency management built into the walls, ceiling and quite possibly in the floors to manage how much energy is being produced, especially if you want to crank them up to more lifelike SPL. Remember, in some sitting positions a full orchestra can hit other 100dB with the full orchestra playing and if you wanted to listen to those speakers at comparable SPL, the more energy being produced that needs to be managed.. Those speakers are simply too expensive for most people due to what one would need in terms of the size room, etc. would probably be more than a 1/2 million just for the room, or more to construct.. VERY impractical.. I'm sure they sound stunning, once you get the right room, but hardly practical for 99% of the human population.. :-)
I'm glad you said you're never getting rid of them. I've been wanting to visit you guys in Boulder just to get a chance to listen to them. I'm excited to hear the FR30's as well but I have been wanting to listen to these since I saw them in the stereo mags back in the 80's, so, for me, listening to a set of these for a few minutes is a bucket list thing.
Congrats PS Audio, and thanks for sharing the process with us! Its definitely not easy to put yourself out there like you guys have been doing with your YT content. I myself had been wondering if the size of the old music room was large enough for the IRS V.
Hi Paul. My first introduction to the other worldly performance of the IRS series V was courtesy of Mike Kay at Lyric. I miss Mike. He was certainly one of the gentleman of our industry and well respected around the world.
Don't worry Paul their only next door, and you know what, they may even sound better than before given the more space to breath even more potential than they already have my friend! 👍
@@richarddarr3381 part of me doesn't want to hear them, afraid I'll end up mortgaging my house.. My wife calls it a disease, my car system is ridiculously more than the car is worth I'm in enough trouble for that lol.. (fortunatly she enjoys it too)
Nice video Paul. The old familiar loudspeakers that remain. We certainly enjoyed a lot. Paul, the new speakers are really nice. And the old speakers for sure. We are looking forward to the new event of High-end... We love it... A hobby without end and without perfection, but certainly fascinating... Greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht and above all continue with High-end... 👌🏾👍🏽✌🏾😘😉And of course coffee☕
I've been watching your videos for what feels like a decade and really enjoy learning about true high end audio. Sadly, I'll never be able to afford to experience it because it's far outside my price range.
Understood and thank you for watching and being part of our community. Don't forget about little Sprout. For less than $1K you can have high-end audio.
When I started watching, 5 years ago, you promised us an $8000 pair of speakers that would be the equivalent of the IRSV, more or less. I'm still waiting, and hoping.
@@mattuw82 really!??? No way! I would have never guessed. That wasn't the point. Are you familiar with the phrase "mission creep"? Maybe that will help you understand.
Smart move. This gives the opportunity to let people hear the top of what's possible with refurbished 1980s technology and then go next door to hear current technology capability.
Its amazing that the FR30s are able to out perform these speakers considering how smaller they are and have so fewer drivers. What an amazing accomplishment you must be very proud! A good friend of mine is an audiophile with much deeper pockets than me and I'll do everything in my power to make sure he buys a pair.
Paul, the owner of PS Audio tells us that their new speakers are better. Maybe they are. But let's look what other experts will write about that in the near future.
Paul, you had me scared for a while. I actually had to take a break between sides of SRV's Couldn't Stand the Weather to watch the video. The good news is that if I can ever make it to Boulder, there will be two killer speakers to experience.🎵
They would sound great in Music Room 4, also known as my living room. We'll need to take a wall down. And some doors. Also remove the upper floor, build a new foundation, replace all the electric, and plan for my inevitable eviction. See you tomorrow!
wow, incredible!!!! cant wait to hear the FR-30 and hopefully grab a pair. or maybe wait for the FR-20 (or whatever the model above the FR-30 gets named) :)
So sad, so historic! Sorry to rush you but I can't wait to see your "little" speaker, whatever that is that you come up with. Thank you for the daily entertainment you keep offering.
As a lover of vintage audio, this is an extremely sad day. I will fully admit that I might be trying to live in the past, but there's just something about vintage sound and looks, that new equipment just can't touch. I'm glad you are happy with your new product, but they will never, can never, be as beautiful as the Ifinity IRSv's.
I have no doubt that the new speakers sound better in the sweet spot , but the IRS 5's are a line source design. The most often-stated benefit to line-source designs is that they minimize the effect of the listening room by restricting vertical dispersion - the sound isn’t affected by the same floor-bounce and ceiling-reflection issues that plague regular two-way or three-way “point-source” speakers. How does the new design deal with the vertical dispersion issue and how wide is the sweet spot in comparison to a line source design. Wouldn't the ideal speaker be like the IRS 5's with new low distortion drivers ?
"The most often-stated benefit to line-source designs is that they minimize the effect of the listening room by restricting vertical dispersion" ............. And that is why I love my Martin Logans so much compared to all my dynamic box speakers. Thanks for mentioning that ! (a true dipole as well)
I really hope one day I can come over there (from UK) and listen to these wonderful speakers. And really the whole set-ups you have there. Now, all this talk of the IRSV moving to music room 3, and the new FR30's moving into music room 2, it has me wondering, what do you have in Music Room 1?
I listened to a pair of IRSVs in a hotel conference room in Hong Kong in the early 90s. I wondered how they got them in and out of the room, as it only had a small domestic sized door into a narrow corridor.
In a moment of hubris I blew the tweeters on my Quad floorstanders. I put them away pending the ordering of a replacement set. In the meantime I set up a reasonably good soundbar. The wife now has decreed that the speakers are not to return, on aesthetic grounds. Even if I could afford a set of your magnificent new speakers, I would never get Commandant Approval to install them. For guys like us, this is a major issue. It seems many wives prefer sleek and elegant over sonic performance. Indeed, I identified the loss of the tweeters immediately...And yet to her, there was no apparent difference in the sound. She claims that the soundbar sounds great, and can't understand why I would want to re- clutter the room with speakers and an amp. Congratulations on the new speakers PS. It's a great achievement!
Can anyone point me to a video where Paul explains why the new FR30s speakers are going into Music Room 2 rather than Music Room 3? Music Room 3 is larger. Do the FR30s sound better in a smaller room? Is Music Room 2 designed to more closely duplicate a typical customer's room?
I'm still fairly new to all this so forgive me if this is a silly question, but can't those speakers be upgraded with new drivers etc to be more modern? Or would that be like a sort of sacrilege in the world of high end audio?
They could be, with lots and lots of work, trial and error, etc. but PS Audio really MUST feature their own newly developed speakers, it is their only option.
A speaker is an optimized combination of cabinet, electronics (crossovers), and drivers. New drivers will not mimic the original drivers' specs and performance, so they will not sound the same. Many high end speaker manufacturers hand select and test each component of the speaker for a true custom build with parts that are optimized to each other and in matches pairs so the left and right speaker are within 2 or 3% of each other.
Oh No, your going to be stuck for the next month or two shuffling the IRSV's back and forth etc, trying to find the optimal positions etc. On a more serious note, distortion, I'm amazed at the levels of distortion you quoted for the IRSV's. If they, at their 'elevated place' in design have so much distortion, then what am I seeing from my much lesser equipment. Several years ago the bass drivers in my main system started dying - the foam surrounds started decaying, so I bought some new drivers, now I did expect some sound changes, as their responses and sensitivities etc etc etc, was unavoidably completely different, however given that they are now 'wrong', and the 'magic' has gone, so to speak, maybe its driver distortion?? I'm yet to put a finger on it. Pity me going out and blowing a few grand on some new speakers (as opposed to just the drivers) is now totally out of the question. (no longer working, looking after the wife)
You need to run in the new drivers. Place each speaker facing each other as close as possible then connect them out of phase from each other. You can now play them very loud for at least 24 hours with white noise or burn in test disc from Nordost or such
Interesting that you think the new speakers outperform the IRS. Will you be putting the IRS on the smaller wall or the longer wall. I suggest they go on the longer wall.... Good luck!
I think that because amps are such a big part of PS Audio's business, they opted to go for unpowered speakers that would be paired with a PS Audio amplifier.
If I have her happen to be in the area can I hit y'all up and come listen to some of those speakers? it would probably be the only chance I'd ever have of listening to something like that.
I remember reading an article in 1985 by Julian Hirsch that mentioned these mythical speakers......the Infinity Reference Standard V. I have never seen a set in person, much less listened to them.
Believe it or not, this morning (here in Spain) I "visualized" this video in my mind... I had like a "premonition" and a thought came across my mind: "When will Paul present their speakers and what will happen with the IRS V?". Believe it or not...
Now, Paul you know that with the new speakers performing so much better these poor Infiniti's will just sit in music room 3 gathering dust and taking up space. I'll do you a favor and come pick up those tired old speakers and get rid of them for you. Don't worry I'll find them a nice home where they can be happy and live their final days out. LOL
I'm sorry, when did the FR30 officially debut on this channel. I've been waiting for a grand reveal for some time and I've read the press release but I thought for sure we'd have a big presentation on this channel.
So what happened to the AN series? I don't think Chris and his design philosophy should be the only way of thinking pursued. There's a reason nobody even claimed to best the IRS V for 30 some years...
Paul's missus: "Well, you are certainly not bringing them here. I dont want to hear another word about it" And therefore Music Room No 2 was created to house the IRS 5. And everybody was happy.
Where can I get those because I have been an Infinity Speaker audiophile person for years! I know that these are not very readily available. I am serious about my inquiry for these.
Speakers with so many drivers and so much distortion will turn a simple sine wave into multi path and multi frequency sound and that can be great for music where you want to make it sound very live. The very opposite is my office setup with the KEF LS50 Meta and subwoofer where the degree of “liveness” is defined by the audio tracks I’m playing.
@@graxjpg Personally I prefer the purest representation of music with minimal multi path and distortion added by my own system. Most music I like is not live instrumental or vocal music performed on a stage but rather studio mastered music. And if there is a room acoustics playing a role on the music track, I want it to be with the acoustical signature of the room of where the music was made and not some particular room of mine.
I look forward to hearing Chris's $30k creations at some point in 2022 but looking at what's happening all over Europe, Australia, etc.; it is hard to find optimism. It would be interesting to know what fellow Coloradan Scott at Aspen Acoustics thinks of your name choice?!
That’s what I was waiting to hear. I knew that you would never let these beauties go on a musical, historical and an emotional basis.
I got his left leg .. we'll get them lol
@@SudburyMan Got his shoe! keep pulling!
The end of an era, Paul! I’m glad that your keeping the IRS V around as listening to a pair is on my audiophile bucket list!
#metoo
Been there, heard them. Worth the trip.
This was the last of the original American Infinity. I sold the smaller Kappa's, the RS-0000/RS-0001. Over the 85-90, after 90/91, HK/infinity were just consumer speakers. It is so nice to see a beautiful PC of infinity history continue. Thank you Paul
I'm going to have to make the trip up there and spend a couple of hours listening to your wonderful work😄
Great that you let us feel with you. Those speakers were your companions for a quarter of your life and service you and your PS Audio endeavour so well!
Wish Mery X-Mas to your team and families and a Happy New Year!
Great sales pitch for the new speakers. I want to come hear them!
That transition to music room 3 was amazing! Hahah!
Awesome! Congratulations Paul! Can't wait to see future videos!👍
The last time I visited PS Audio the IRSV was across the street and Music Rooms 1, 2 and 3 were being framed. I look forward when I can visit again.
Bucket list is to one day come to CO and hear both of these systems.
They are not 1985 speakers. You just rebuilt them a year or two ago and made a lot of changes to them. In the car world we would call them "resto-mods" not a numbers matching reference car.
Glad to see you are giving the V's more room. What gets me is why not the new speakers in the bigger room? Imho the bigger V's can fill the larger room with sound as apposed smaller will not. When I was a kid Polk Audio mini's were the rage. Great sounding speakers but were just to small to fill anything with sound beside a car interior and that's what we used them for.
Lol, my 1999 rav 4 with a new engine and transmission is still a 1999.
@@graxjpg Any changes from the way it came off the showroom floor and it is not a reference Rav 4 and even though it's not a show car it still would be considered a resto mod. Just because Paul did it means nothing, it was still done. They are not the same speakers that came out of Infinity's shop, good or bad.
Smaller speakers, smaller room. Bigger speakers, bigger room. The room is part of the acoustic system; the room loads the output from the speaker in the bass range, and the reflective surfaces are a certain distance away impacting the flight time of reflected energy. A bigger room sounds 'grander' because of these two phenomena.
Some treasures are not given away...
Time and technology lurches onward; great to see that gleam in your eye and spring in your step!
Finally. I always thought that IRSV deserves bigger space. When I heard its sound in the old PS Audio building, full of sounds in the room but it was too much, I felt it's saturated.
Yeah, they need to be in a room with MUCH higher ceilings, more width and length to the room.
It's too small of a room and the wall/ceiling construction/treatment isn't optimal for those speakers.. for those speakers you need a LOT of low frequency management built into the walls and ceiling and quite possibly even the floor. Plus, you need a bigger room. Those sub woofer towers are very tall and the ceiling dimension is typically the shortest dimension in the room, thus creating Axial modes between the floor and ceiling generating peaks and nulls.. If you have a 9 ft ceiling, you ARE going to have Axial room mode issues. Those things are going to need at LEAST a 14ft ceiling, and STILL need low frequency absorption in the ceiling, which makes the ceiling probably 14 or even 16inch deep with lots of dense materials, etc. They might even need the floor to have low frequency absorption to manage the amount of energy coming out of those speakers. Remember, there's 12 12inch powered sub woofers capable of a LOT of low frequency energy down to 16hz…
Then you would need a wide room to handle the 4 cabinets and then a longer distance in the length, and again, low frequency management built into the walls using a variety of dense materials, etc.
That room, neither of his rooms are big enough, and with proper construction, etc. to handle that speaker system to produce it's optimal sound quality. Yes, I'm sure his bigger room does sound better than the other room, but it's STILL not big enough, or built using the right materials, etc.
That's the problem with those 4 cabinet tower systems. Other companies like Gryphon, MBL, Steinway Lyndorf and others make 4 cabinet systems with large sub towers and they really need large rooms, tall ceilings, and a lot of low frequency management built into the walls, ceiling and quite possibly in the floors to manage how much energy is being produced, especially if you want to crank them up to more lifelike SPL. Remember, in some sitting positions a full orchestra can hit other 100dB with the full orchestra playing and if you wanted to listen to those speakers at comparable SPL, the more energy being produced that needs to be managed..
Those speakers are simply too expensive for most people due to what one would need in terms of the size room, etc. would probably be more than a 1/2 million just for the room, or more to construct.. VERY impractical..
I'm sure they sound stunning, once you get the right room, but hardly practical for 99% of the human population.. :-)
Congratulations on the new speakers, they look like a very exceptional bit of acoustical engineering.
I'm glad you said you're never getting rid of them. I've been wanting to visit you guys in Boulder just to get a chance to listen to them. I'm excited to hear the FR30's as well but I have been wanting to listen to these since I saw them in the stereo mags back in the 80's, so, for me, listening to a set of these for a few minutes is a bucket list thing.
Congrats PS Audio, and thanks for sharing the process with us! Its definitely not easy to put yourself out there like you guys have been doing with your YT content. I myself had been wondering if the size of the old music room was large enough for the IRS V.
Hi Paul. My first introduction to the other worldly performance of the IRS series V was courtesy of Mike Kay at Lyric. I miss Mike. He was certainly one of the gentleman of our industry and well respected around the world.
Love it! Great video's! And thank god you will keep the Irs5! 💪
I would love to spend a night in those music rooms😎🙏 best regards from Switzerland
Can not wait to see the future videos. Congrats
We dont see you this excited often, glad i started scrolling back through old vids
OMG i thought u were gonna cry. The passion you have for those IRSV is endearing.
yes.. cant wait to see and listen to the new speakers.
Don't worry Paul their only next door, and you know what, they may even sound better than before given the more space to breath even more potential than they already have my friend! 👍
Very exciting, congratulations . It's like Christmas morning! ;-))
Dissapointed, I tought they were move to my living room.
They will have a better home in the bigger room, such beauties!
Some day I'm gonna make it out there to here I mean HEAR them both..
Hear
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt thanks lol
Same here hear both, I bet the IRS 5 wins why size imaging
@@richarddarr3381 part of me doesn't want to hear them, afraid I'll end up mortgaging my house.. My wife calls it a disease, my car system is ridiculously more than the car is worth I'm in enough trouble for that lol.. (fortunatly she enjoys it too)
Nice video Paul. The old familiar loudspeakers that remain. We certainly enjoyed a lot. Paul, the new speakers are really nice. And the old speakers for sure. We are looking forward to the new event of High-end... We love it... A hobby without end and without perfection, but certainly fascinating... Greetings from the Netherlands Limburg Maastricht and above all continue with High-end...
👌🏾👍🏽✌🏾😘😉And of course coffee☕
I've been watching your videos for what feels like a decade and really enjoy learning about true high end audio. Sadly, I'll never be able to afford to experience it because it's far outside my price range.
Understood and thank you for watching and being part of our community. Don't forget about little Sprout. For less than $1K you can have high-end audio.
Looking forwards to seeing the latest and greatest in speaker tech!
You're looking at the wrong company . LOL
When I started watching, 5 years ago, you promised us an $8000 pair of speakers that would be the equivalent of the IRSV, more or less. I'm still waiting, and hoping.
Hahaha :-)
That's inflation for you! Didn't your $8000 worth of investments turn into $28,000 worth over the past 5 years?? 😎
They're releasing a whole line of speakers.
@@mattuw82 really!??? No way! I would have never guessed.
That wasn't the point. Are you familiar with the phrase "mission creep"? Maybe that will help you understand.
@@jamesrobinson9176 you can't afford speakers lol
Smart move. This gives the opportunity to let people hear the top of what's possible with refurbished 1980s technology and then go next door to hear current technology capability.
My speakers are around 25 years old. New doesn’t always mean better, which is why I still have them.
Your sense of hearing is also 25 years older!! You can't hear what you could back then. 😤
Can't wait to hear them!
great video paul
Beautiful
Its amazing that the FR30s are able to out perform these speakers considering how smaller they are and have so fewer drivers. What an amazing accomplishment you must be very proud! A good friend of mine is an audiophile with much deeper pockets than me and I'll do everything in my power to make sure he buys a pair.
Paul, the owner of PS Audio tells us that their new speakers are better. Maybe they are. But let's look what other experts will write about that in the near future.
@@edgar9651 yep. My glasses are down on my nose and looking over them at this claim.
@@edgar9651 I am pretty sure that KEF's Muon , or even BLADE Series will easy outperform Paul's eyesore speakers .
Well time will tell ... Most of Paul's videos are indeed a sales pitch
Boloney, they are not better. Marketing stunt
Sad day but very exciting. Congratulations
Paul, you had me scared for a while. I actually had to take a break between sides of SRV's Couldn't Stand the Weather to watch the video. The good news is that if I can ever make it to Boulder, there will be two killer speakers to experience.🎵
I would take them at my home but you can visit and listen them anytime you want.
Very cool! Im looking forward to that upcoming Videos. Greetings from Germany
Happy times, good luck!!
They would sound great in Music Room 4, also known as my living room. We'll need to take a wall down. And some doors. Also remove the upper floor, build a new foundation, replace all the electric, and plan for my inevitable eviction.
See you tomorrow!
wow, incredible!!!! cant wait to hear the FR-30 and hopefully grab a pair. or maybe wait for the FR-20 (or whatever the model above the FR-30 gets named) :)
Exciting!
So sad, so historic! Sorry to rush you but I can't wait to see your "little" speaker, whatever that is that you come up with. Thank you for the daily entertainment you keep offering.
WOW, i'm subbing just to see more crazy speakers
You had me scared there for a minute!
As a lover of vintage audio, this is an extremely sad day. I will fully admit that I might be trying to live in the past, but there's just something about vintage sound and looks, that new equipment just can't touch. I'm glad you are happy with your new product, but they will never, can never, be as beautiful as the Ifinity IRSv's.
I have no doubt that the new speakers sound better in the sweet spot , but the IRS 5's are a line source design. The most often-stated benefit to line-source designs is that they minimize the effect of the listening room by restricting vertical dispersion - the sound isn’t affected by the same floor-bounce and ceiling-reflection issues that plague regular two-way or three-way “point-source” speakers. How does the new design deal with the vertical dispersion issue and how wide is the sweet spot in comparison to a line source design. Wouldn't the ideal speaker be like the IRS 5's with new low distortion drivers ?
"The most often-stated benefit to line-source designs is that they minimize the effect of the listening room by restricting vertical dispersion" ............. And that is why I love my Martin Logans so much compared to all my dynamic box speakers. Thanks for mentioning that ! (a true dipole as well)
I really hope one day I can come over there (from UK) and listen to these wonderful speakers. And really the whole set-ups you have there.
Now, all this talk of the IRSV moving to music room 3, and the new FR30's moving into music room 2, it has me wondering, what do you have in Music Room 1?
I listened to a pair of IRSVs in a hotel conference room in Hong Kong in the early 90s. I wondered how they got them in and out of the room, as it only had a small domestic sized door into a narrow corridor.
I will missed that IRSV speakers Paul! I've seen it only in this place
I think they’ll be far better in the new room
In a moment of hubris I blew the tweeters on my Quad floorstanders. I put them away pending the ordering of a replacement set. In the meantime I set up a reasonably good soundbar.
The wife now has decreed that the speakers are not to return, on aesthetic grounds.
Even if I could afford a set of your magnificent new speakers, I would never get Commandant Approval to install them.
For guys like us, this is a major issue. It seems many wives prefer sleek and elegant over sonic performance.
Indeed, I identified the loss of the tweeters immediately...And yet to her, there was no apparent difference in the sound. She claims that the soundbar sounds great, and can't understand why I would want to re- clutter the room with speakers and an amp.
Congratulations on the new speakers PS. It's a great achievement!
That is why you need a dedicated listening room.
@@vinylrules4838 great idea. Ill order one tomorrow.
Well you could have married a man! Would that make you happier?? 👿
That is brilliant
Those sudden edits made me think of stop motion animation. Now I want to see a Gumby version of a Paul video!
will the new speaker affect the voicing of future PS Audio electronics?
They may sound great, but boy those things are an eyesore! I'll take a drop in audio fidelity for some aesthetic pleasure!
I think they look amazing, but I guess there's no accounting for taste.
Love your shoes.lol
You should make a detailed video on FR-30 speakers!
Who knows, the IRS might still be better when they're playing in the right size room?
🎶🤫🎶
when you get them in room 3 i reckon they will sound much better,does the roof need attention though it looks a bit metal ish? for best effect
Of course the new speakers are "better". Just what potential buyers want to hear.
Not once have i ever seen a video were you played those speakers.
It wouldn't matter, what you would hear is what your own sound source would reproduce, some deteriorated version of what the speakers played.
How the hell are you supposed to listen to someone else's speakers on UA-cam?
@@mattuw82 Uh well, you can if you have the right equipment and as they say in the industry (the ears to here).
New speakers = Xmas! ✌🍾
May I suggest...
*A wood veneer option for your new speakers.*
Totally agree. Not a fan of the new design. I rather liked the look of the prototypes better.
well when do we all see your speakers ???
/sigh
Now I have to go back to Boulder and listen to them *again* in the new room.
You make life hard sometimes Paul...
Can anyone point me to a video where Paul explains why the new FR30s speakers are going into Music Room 2 rather than Music Room 3? Music Room 3 is larger. Do the FR30s sound better in a smaller room? Is Music Room 2 designed to more closely duplicate a typical customer's room?
music room 3 was not ready so they went into rm 2 which was.
I'm still fairly new to all this so forgive me if this is a silly question, but can't those speakers be upgraded with new drivers etc to be more modern?
Or would that be like a sort of sacrilege in the world of high end audio?
They could be, with lots and lots of work, trial and error, etc. but PS Audio really MUST feature their own newly developed speakers, it is their only option.
A speaker is an optimized combination of cabinet, electronics (crossovers), and drivers. New drivers will not mimic the original drivers' specs and performance, so they will not sound the same. Many high end speaker manufacturers hand select and test each component of the speaker for a true custom build with parts that are optimized to each other and in matches pairs so the left and right speaker are within 2 or 3% of each other.
OK, thanks for the replies!
Oh No, your going to be stuck for the next month or two shuffling the IRSV's back and forth etc, trying to find the optimal positions etc.
On a more serious note, distortion, I'm amazed at the levels of distortion you quoted for the IRSV's. If they, at their 'elevated place' in design have so much distortion, then what am I seeing from my much lesser equipment.
Several years ago the bass drivers in my main system started dying - the foam surrounds started decaying, so I bought some new drivers, now I did expect some sound changes, as their responses and sensitivities etc etc etc, was unavoidably completely different, however given that they are now 'wrong', and the 'magic' has gone, so to speak, maybe its driver distortion?? I'm yet to put a finger on it. Pity me going out and blowing a few grand on some new speakers (as opposed to just the drivers) is now totally out of the question. (no longer working, looking after the wife)
You need to run in the new drivers. Place each speaker facing each other as close as possible then connect them out of phase from each other. You can now play them very loud for at least 24 hours with white noise or burn in test disc from Nordost or such
Interesting that you think the new speakers outperform the IRS. Will you be putting the IRS on the smaller wall or the longer wall. I suggest they go on the longer wall.... Good luck!
Paul since the FR-30 are a passive speaker will PS Audio develop a speaker with a powered subwoofer ?
I think that because amps are such a big part of PS Audio's business, they opted to go for unpowered speakers that would be paired with a PS Audio amplifier.
If I have her happen to be in the area can I hit y'all up and come listen to some of those speakers? it would probably be the only chance I'd ever have of listening to something like that.
how the heck do you move them!?!?! :)
I remember reading an article in 1985 by Julian Hirsch that mentioned these mythical speakers......the Infinity Reference Standard V. I have never seen a set in person, much less listened to them.
damn will take me a while to save for the FR-30s.
How much do the Sr 30 cost please?
Believe it or not, this morning (here in Spain) I "visualized" this video in my mind... I had like a "premonition" and a thought came across my mind: "When will Paul present their speakers and what will happen with the IRS V?". Believe it or not...
I was really hoping the speakers that would replace the IRSV would be one of an open baffle design. But Kudos to the FR-30
Now, Paul you know that with the new speakers performing so much better these poor Infiniti's will just sit in music room 3 gathering dust and taking up space.
I'll do you a favor and come pick up those tired old speakers and get rid of them for you.
Don't worry I'll find them a nice home where they can be happy and live their final days out.
LOL
I'm sorry, when did the FR30 officially debut on this channel. I've been waiting for a grand reveal for some time and I've read the press release but I thought for sure we'd have a big presentation on this channel.
I agree! I want a breakdown of everything.
It was a good run. Godspeed with the new ones !
Enjoy them in good health.
So when will they be sent to my house?
I ll make it fit, somehow 😂😂😂
Still really enjoying my monitor audio gx200 gold speakers :-)
Bye-bye to the church organ low notes thunder :(.................
So what happened to the AN series? I don't think Chris and his design philosophy should be the only way of thinking pursued. There's a reason nobody even claimed to best the IRS V for 30 some years...
I'm happy to take them off your hands for 500usd😁
Paul's missus: "Well, you are certainly not bringing them here. I dont want to hear another word about it" And therefore Music Room No 2 was created to house the IRS 5. And everybody was happy.
Paul send me a pair of your speakers that may not be your favorite, PLEASE
The end of an era.
I like music room 3 better so the IRS's are going to a good place. I knew you wouldn't give up the IRS's...
Where can I get those because I have been an Infinity Speaker audiophile person for years! I know that these are not very readily available. I am serious about my inquiry for these.
Speakers with so many drivers and so much distortion will turn a simple sine wave into multi path and multi frequency sound and that can be great for music where you want to make it sound very live. The very opposite is my office setup with the KEF LS50 Meta and subwoofer where the degree of “liveness” is defined by the audio tracks I’m playing.
Absolutely, but that much distortion and that many speakers seems like a very pleasing experience haha.
@@graxjpg Personally I prefer the purest representation of music with minimal multi path and distortion added by my own system. Most music I like is not live instrumental or vocal music performed on a stage but rather studio mastered music. And if there is a room acoustics playing a role on the music track, I want it to be with the acoustical signature of the room of where the music was made and not some particular room of mine.
Paul and the IRS Vs are like beavis and butthead. Rocky and bullwinkle if you’re older. Smothers brothers even.
Yes Thank You SOOO Much for all your help Brother 🙂👍👍👍
I look forward to hearing Chris's $30k creations at some point in 2022 but looking at what's happening all over Europe, Australia, etc.; it is hard to find optimism.
It would be interesting to know what fellow Coloradan Scott at Aspen Acoustics thinks of your name choice?!
Deeeemn :o Out does your irs :o