Great episode. When I was younger and lived in London I often used Liverpool Street and the old platform 3 was regularly used as an auxiliary terminus for rush hour Metropolitan trains from Amersham/Watford/Uxbridge, there being only two useable platforms at Aldgate. Moorgate also used bay platforms for this. Also on the Eastbound (>Aldgate/East) Metropolitan/Circle platform there was for seveeral decades a bar on the platform where one could ( and I often did) buy a pint waiting for next train): a bit like at Sloane Square but less enclosed.
Lovely to see bits of Liverpool Street I've never seen, do love spotting the few details at the station I see replicated at other stations on the "Eastern" line (London to Norwich). One of these days I'll photograph them all!
Awesome. I loved every bit of that, and now I'm fully mobile again I'm determined to get to one of the Hidden London tours, particularly Aldgate. The four of you helped to keep us all sane during the lockdowns and I thank you for that.
I've been enjoying watching Secrets of the London Underground. Later on I came across Hidden London Hangouts about the history of the Underground. Very interesting indeed 😊
Wow, what a memory jerker, I remember going on the old escalators in their own little individual tunnels, back in the 70's on my way to/from school. They really had a charm about them, and would be a bit miffed when they were closed at certain times. Makes me feel old seeing them looking like that now.
Hi guys, I was at the Cubic Theatre with you last year and enjoyed this video immensely and I'll be glad for a second look- and don't worry I won't give any spoilers before it goes out tomorrow! It was a great night and I was wondering if any further 'Hangouts Live' events are palnned?
Loved this one lots. So exciting and well filmed and the history behind it was enthralling. Call me a queen but I would have to wear gloves all of the time. Huge big marigolds. All the best from Alex.
When I was younger and lived in Chesham, I’d occasionally get one of the two rush hour trains in the morning that went through to London (rather than the usual shuttle to Chalfont and Latimer) and these trains terminated at Liverpool Street.
I was lucky enough to be involved in the planning and parliamentary stages of the Crossrail Bill. The Geotechnical project to instrument the entire line of route was a massive undertaking: done mainly (IMHO) to defend claims from land owners who wanted compensation after subsidence during and post build. Who can forget the clusters of laser targets around all the stations along the route - particular TCR.
Another great video and a very interesting station as well. I'm more familiar with the National Rail station of old and that's changed enormously in the last 40 years. I'd not really considered the London transport parts of the station, so it was really interesting to see all the history that's there.
My main memory of using Liverpool Street in the mid 1960s is the bar on platform 1 !!! From memory, it was basically a counter in a hole in the wall, and it sold Bass, tapped straight from the barrels tilted at an angle and placed only a short distance behind the bar so that those serving the crowds of thirsty homeward bound commuters only had a short distance to move to fill the pint glasses which were then swiftly downed before rushing to the appropriate platform of the British Rail station for the last leg home Happy days
Hi gang I was confused by your description of platform 3 behind the hording. As a schoolboy, back before the 1960 electrification, I remember watching some of the electric loco operated trains would run to Liverpool Street, with destination Board at the front, and the loco from the previous train would sit in a shunt opposite the Signal Box. When the service left the incoming loco would reverse into the shunt for the next duty. This mimicked the "Jazz" workings of the steam suburban service of the main line trains. Also when first constructed and included in the Act of Parliament there was a direct connection from the Metropolitan to Platform 1 of the mainline station.
Great video , I was at Liv Street today and look up at the door to the tight on platform one that used to go to the Liverpool Street Arcade, I( I think it's the one you were in at the start ) It was a shortcut to the central line. Also, I remember I had to walk through a long sloping tunnel to get to the platforms
John Lyon: former headmaster of Harrow School. There was a pub in Harrow named after him. It makes sense that a Metropolitan Line/Railway train would be named after him.
I was forgetting that this film was only for the tube, I have lots of memories of the mainline station in the late 1950’s onwards, it was Spartan, platform 1 had a connection to the the LT lines, a cross bridge between the two mainline parts, underground toilets, all under British Rail. There were some things seen that I had no memory of before the opening of Crossrail, wasn’t aware of those entrances from the Central line platforms to those old lift shafts. I remember the disused LT platform 4, remember trains terminating there, they sold the site for a building above. I used to use the Broad Street station that was next door. All in all, a nice tour team, looking forward to your next tour.
This was excellent. I would love to attend someday but I'm 7500 miles away across the pond. Those are Corinthian columns. Corinthian columns are smooth and have acacanthus leaves and flowers on the pediments while Ionic columns are fluted with a straight, square pediment that has curled ends on the four corners.
I remember as a kid that in the rush hours Metropolitan trains ran to & from Liverpool Street using locos like Sarah Siddons. Usually there would be one stabled ready for use.
Nice video and great to see those escalator shafts from Broad Street! Always wondered how they looked! The 'lift shaft' you looked at just off the eastern end of the CL's eastbound platform (and 600 ft away from Broad Street) wasn't one that led to Broad Street station according to the CLR's construction plans.
Yep, the John Lyon School (which is a day school affiliated with Harrow School) had a name plate from the train on display. Presumably still has in fact, I haven’t been in there a while. There used to be a pub named after him too.
@@Extreme_Rice There was indeed a pub - now an Indian restaurant but the traffic circle is still officially John Lyon Roundabout. I think the school does still have the plate.
So these were the original escalator shafts that went up to Broad Street station and were taken out of use when it was demolished? Also just beyond the signal box was a tunnel that could take Metropolitan trains through to the main Liverpool Street station and beyond.
Had to iterate persimeter to Passimeter to find the spelling and acceptable definition. Glad I hadn't imagined a platform disappearing from Circle/Met behind a trick wall.
You didn't mention perhaps the most unique feature of Liverpool Street, the never really used 1875-1907 connection between the Met and platforms 1/2 of Liverpool Street mainline station. It may be there's not enough left to include or that what's left is all on the Network Rail side but still it was probably the most unique feature of that station. I'd have hoped you'd have a few pictures of the connection (or its remains) in the museum photo collection.
The tunnel is still there and forms part of a retail unit now, The LU end portal is still visible from the (LU) train. I used to run the team that inspected structures on what was then Railtrack. Check out the Great Eastern Society photos of the connection.
My comment exactly in my comment, think the video was aimed at LU rather than BR, I remember the tunnel entrance from platform 1, was it still there with LO trains frequenting the platform.
Excellent video keep up the good work and thanks for all you do. One thing with the new studio set up as good as it is. Can the camera at the front of the table be raised, so Siddy and Laura are not hidden behind the microphones during the intro and outtro? Also with the comments about the lavishness of the party for the opening of the Central Railway station. Would this have been helped from the supplies from the Great Eastern hotel and Masonic Hall above?
Also something that may be of interest, I found this video of Liverpool Street Mainline and Broad Street in 1985 prior to the first phase of redevelopment. Brings back of loads of memories of how tired Liverpool Street was getting and the interesting concept of Health & Safety at Broad Street ua-cam.com/video/TrJnbOQ9_Us/v-deo.htmlsi=DX1l1xVYeTErzVXR
I had always assumed there was a closed platform behind the wall, even tried to see if you could see the way in from the train entering the station. Also the double width stairs always seemed too grand and large.
very nice videos, trying to tell us how the secrets of london underground services, I prefer the central line and the bank station, waterloo and city line s my favorite tube😅
Hi All the very little information about the Liverpool Street Main line i think platform 1 connection to the Circle line /Hammersmith City / District line / i believe the tunnel still partly exist and this was built to allow Queen Victoria to travel from Windsor GWR to Wolferton with out changing train?
We have a collection of car-card adverts for our vehicles but we don’t collect general advertising unless there’s something specific about it that relates to LT or TfL
@@alexgrundon2346 Well, the episodes so far seem to be a new wrapper around visits to locations you've filmed in previous years or have only shown to members.
@@bishwatntl episode 1 was Waterloo… that was a new explore. Episode 2 was a ride on the 38 stock - unseen and all new footage - and episode 3 is a station that only people who bought a ticket for the live show saw. So to any viewer who is not a Patreon or who purchased a ticket to a one-off museum event, everything has been new material in this series. This week we filmed in Green Park (Dover St). If you‘ve missed previous episodes, feel free to go back and take a look
Yup sign up for the ltmuseum newsletter and keep watching. As soon as we set a date for the next one, we’ll let you know on the first available episode
Thanks for those really amazing insights on the London tube stations. I love your Hangouts series. You're a great team! Greetings from Germany.
These excellent, well made and produced videos, give me the urge to go on one of the tours and visit the museum
FANTASTIC GUYS YOU ARE THE FAB FOUR WELL DONE A GREAT AND INTERESTING EPISODE FROM SHAUN SOUTH WEST FRANCE 🇫🇷
Great episode. When I was younger and lived in London I often used Liverpool Street and the old platform 3 was regularly used as an auxiliary terminus for rush hour Metropolitan trains from Amersham/Watford/Uxbridge, there being only two useable platforms at Aldgate. Moorgate also used bay platforms for this.
Also on the Eastbound (>Aldgate/East) Metropolitan/Circle platform there was for seveeral decades a bar on the platform where one could ( and I often did) buy a pint waiting for next train): a bit like at Sloane Square but less enclosed.
Lovely to see bits of Liverpool Street I've never seen, do love spotting the few details at the station I see replicated at other stations on the "Eastern" line (London to Norwich). One of these days I'll photograph them all!
Excellent! All four (five!) of you back on screen brightening my Saturday evening 😊
Awesome. I loved every bit of that, and now I'm fully mobile again I'm determined to get to one of the Hidden London tours, particularly Aldgate. The four of you helped to keep us all sane during the lockdowns and I thank you for that.
That was another good one. Sorry I'm a bit late watching this one but always love
“It’s either that or a massive bassoon”
I nearly fell out of bed laughing 😂😂😂
I've been enjoying watching Secrets of the London Underground.
Later on I came across Hidden London Hangouts about the history of the Underground.
Very interesting indeed 😊
Wow, what a memory jerker, I remember going on the old escalators in their own little individual tunnels, back in the 70's on my way to/from school. They really had a charm about them, and would be a bit miffed when they were closed at certain times. Makes me feel old seeing them looking like that now.
Thanks for another great episode.
Hi guys, I was at the Cubic Theatre with you last year and enjoyed this video immensely and I'll be glad for a second look- and don't worry I won't give any spoilers before it goes out tomorrow!
It was a great night and I was wondering if any further 'Hangouts Live' events are palnned?
Hi Martyn! YES! We’ll deffo do this again in the coming months. And we really hope you can make it again!
Great, I look forward to it! Best wishes to you and the team.
Love the show guys and the history of the underground
Laura, being the tile aficionado, also wearing a blouse that’s very reminiscent of tiling mosaics is very fitting
That was so enjoyable, thank you.
Omg !!! Number Three is here. Cant wait !! another Saturday will be complete.. 🙂
15:55 Haha love a secret entrance … the old tradesman’s entrance hahah ❤
Cheers so love your program
Loved this one lots. So exciting and well filmed and the history behind it was enthralling. Call me a queen but I would have to wear gloves all of the time. Huge big marigolds. All the best from Alex.
Very Enjoyable 😊
Thanks Guys
When I was younger and lived in Chesham, I’d occasionally get one of the two rush hour trains in the morning that went through to London (rather than the usual shuttle to Chalfont and Latimer) and these trains terminated at Liverpool Street.
I was lucky enough to be involved in the planning and parliamentary stages of the Crossrail Bill. The Geotechnical project to instrument the entire line of route was a massive undertaking: done mainly (IMHO) to defend claims from land owners who wanted compensation after subsidence during and post build. Who can forget the clusters of laser targets around all the stations along the route - particular TCR.
Another great video and a very interesting station as well. I'm more familiar with the National Rail station of old and that's changed enormously in the last 40 years. I'd not really considered the London transport parts of the station, so it was really interesting to see all the history that's there.
My main memory of using Liverpool Street in the mid 1960s is the bar on platform 1 !!!
From memory, it was basically a counter in a hole in the wall, and it sold Bass, tapped straight from the barrels tilted at an angle and placed only a short distance behind the bar so that those serving the crowds of thirsty homeward bound commuters only had a short distance to move to fill the pint glasses which were then swiftly downed before rushing to the appropriate platform of the British Rail station for the last leg home
Happy days
Exactly. Many is the pint I had there.
EPIC ! ❤❤❤❤
Great to have you back.❤
Hi gang I was confused by your description of platform 3 behind the hording. As a schoolboy, back before the 1960 electrification, I remember watching some of the electric loco operated trains would run to Liverpool Street, with destination Board at the front, and the loco from the previous train would sit in a shunt opposite the Signal Box. When the service left the incoming loco would reverse into the shunt for the next duty. This mimicked the "Jazz" workings of the steam suburban service of the main line trains. Also when first constructed and included in the Act of Parliament there was a direct connection from the Metropolitan to Platform 1 of the mainline station.
Great video , I was at Liv Street today and look up at the door to the tight on platform one that used to go to the Liverpool Street Arcade, I( I think it's the one you were in at the start ) It was a shortcut to the central line. Also, I remember I had to walk through a long sloping tunnel to get to the platforms
Was it really August last year this was recorded. It seems not that long ago. It was a great night
John Lyon: former headmaster of Harrow School. There was a pub in Harrow named after him. It makes sense that a Metropolitan Line/Railway train would be named after him.
I was forgetting that this film was only for the tube, I have lots of memories of the mainline station in the late 1950’s onwards, it was Spartan, platform 1 had a connection to the the LT lines, a cross bridge between the two mainline parts, underground toilets, all under British Rail.
There were some things seen that I had no memory of before the opening of Crossrail, wasn’t aware of those entrances from the Central line platforms to those old lift shafts.
I remember the disused LT platform 4, remember trains terminating there, they sold the site for a building above. I used to use the Broad Street station that was next door.
All in all, a nice tour team, looking forward to your next tour.
Please show us the signal cabin at Harrow!
This was excellent. I would love to attend someday but I'm 7500 miles away across the pond.
Those are Corinthian columns. Corinthian columns are smooth and have acacanthus leaves and flowers on the pediments while Ionic columns are fluted with a straight, square pediment that has curled ends on the four corners.
Fantastic video as always guys. Shame we didn't get the photos put up on screen so we could see them better.
I remember as a kid that in the rush hours Metropolitan trains ran to & from Liverpool Street using locos like Sarah Siddons. Usually there would be one stabled ready for use.
01:04:34 ASMR Siddy & 01:04:40 ASMR Laura
This was so amazing! I wish that I had been in that theatre as well. Maybe one day!
Nice video and great to see those escalator shafts from Broad Street! Always wondered how they looked! The 'lift shaft' you looked at just off the eastern end of the CL's eastbound platform (and 600 ft away from Broad Street) wasn't one that led to Broad Street station according to the CLR's construction plans.
The Air OFF warning is to inform you the frame has no air to it and is working manually not remotely
John Lyon was the founder of Harrow School. His estate was near where Preston Road station is now.
Yep, the John Lyon School (which is a day school affiliated with Harrow School) had a name plate from the train on display. Presumably still has in fact, I haven’t been in there a while.
There used to be a pub named after him too.
@@Extreme_Rice There was indeed a pub - now an Indian restaurant but the traffic circle is still officially John Lyon Roundabout. I think the school does still have the plate.
So these were the original escalator shafts that went up to Broad Street station and were taken out of use when it was demolished? Also just beyond the signal box was a tunnel that could take Metropolitan trains through to the main Liverpool Street station and beyond.
Had to iterate persimeter to Passimeter to find the spelling and acceptable definition.
Glad I hadn't imagined a platform disappearing from Circle/Met behind a trick wall.
16:10 I remember that platform before it was boarded off.
You didn't mention perhaps the most unique feature of Liverpool Street, the never really used 1875-1907 connection between the Met and platforms 1/2 of Liverpool Street mainline station. It may be there's not enough left to include or that what's left is all on the Network Rail side but still it was probably the most unique feature of that station. I'd have hoped you'd have a few pictures of the connection (or its remains) in the museum photo collection.
The tunnel is still there and forms part of a retail unit now, The LU end portal is still visible from the (LU) train. I used to run the team that inspected structures on what was then Railtrack. Check out the Great Eastern Society photos of the connection.
My comment exactly in my comment, think the video was aimed at LU rather than BR, I remember the tunnel entrance from platform 1, was it still there with LO trains frequenting the platform.
@@petes6814I now remember that tunnel entrance from platform one, great days of BR gone under the new development, can still be see from LU trains.
It's either unique or it isn't.
I have trapped around Liverpool Street so many times over the years, that I will be interested to see if there are bits that I have never seen.
Totally loved this, awesome guys, having an audience was great, you were all fantastic on the stage, thank you brilliant episode
I'm trying to work out where the other tube entrance was.. Under Broad Street station entrance?
Excellent video keep up the good work and thanks for all you do. One thing with the new studio set up as good as it is. Can the camera at the front of the table be raised, so Siddy and Laura are not hidden behind the microphones during the intro and outtro?
Also with the comments about the lavishness of the party for the opening of the Central Railway station. Would this have been helped from the supplies from the Great Eastern hotel and Masonic Hall above?
Also something that may be of interest, I found this video of Liverpool Street Mainline and Broad Street in 1985 prior to the first phase of redevelopment. Brings back of loads of memories of how tired Liverpool Street was getting and the interesting concept of Health & Safety at Broad Street
ua-cam.com/video/TrJnbOQ9_Us/v-deo.htmlsi=DX1l1xVYeTErzVXR
what about the Met line going into Liverpool Street station
Was the superfluous roundel opposite the old bay platform but now screened off? Was trying to figure out the geography.
Wouldn't J Lyons be for Joseph Lyons of the tea empire who also opened the Lyons Corner Houses?
No, the loco is called John Lyon - after the founder of Harrow (public) School.
I had always assumed there was a closed platform behind the wall, even tried to see if you could see the way in from the train entering the station. Also the double width stairs always seemed too grand and large.
Learned a new (for me) expression - "flouries"
very nice videos, trying to tell us how the secrets of london underground services, I prefer the central line and the bank station, waterloo and city line s my favorite tube😅
What a beautiful green
Hi All the very little information about the Liverpool Street Main line i think platform 1 connection to the Circle line /Hammersmith City / District line /
i believe the tunnel still partly exist and this was built to allow Queen Victoria to travel from Windsor GWR to Wolferton with out changing train?
The disused tunnel was used as a staff canteen for a while?
Loving the new format! Guys
You should've had a nose in that green box! Fascinating vid, r there still remnants of t station that was withdrawn on t 7th 1875?🤔😊
Whoops, left out t mo the which was November!🥴🤭
When did they seal the central Line ticket hall
A slight criticism guys the theater stuff should of been done at the end
Question for Chris,as over the years advertising has played a large part in the history of the tube ,do you have an advertising archive?.
We have a collection of car-card adverts for our vehicles but we don’t collect general advertising unless there’s something specific about it that relates to LT or TfL
Is it safe to assume that that signal box will not be destroyed?
Left "Street" out of the video title.
Have I missed the point or shouldn't the title read 'Liverpool Street'?
I've never been in this Tube station, I think.
15:24 - 15:45/15:46
A Londonist reference (returns)
I'm working tonight, so won't see it or chat live, do hope everyone has a good night watching, I'll watch later in the week
Will series 9 include any new visits?
New visits? What do you mean?
@@alexgrundon2346 Well, the episodes so far seem to be a new wrapper around visits to locations you've filmed in previous years or have only shown to members.
@@bishwatntl episode 1 was Waterloo… that was a new explore. Episode 2 was a ride on the 38 stock - unseen and all
new footage - and episode 3 is a station that only people who bought a ticket for the live show saw. So to any viewer who is not a Patreon or who purchased a ticket to a one-off museum event, everything has been new material in this series. This week we filmed in Green Park (Dover St). If you‘ve missed previous episodes, feel free to go back and take a look
OK, thanks, Alex. Maybe it's just a feeling created by the different wrapper.
Is there perhaps a newsletter that would inform me of any such event being planned?
Yup sign up for the ltmuseum newsletter and keep watching. As soon as we set a date for the next one, we’ll let you know on the first available episode
@@alexgrundon2346 cheers Alex, will sign up right now!
You have to stoping your thighs, you know who I mean, otherwise great.