Why Davis' TempleOS is better than Torvalds' Linux

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  • This is an archive channel dedicated to hosting all of Terry A. Davis' old videos before he deleted his channel.
    Full credit for saving these goes to Vincent Canfield vc.gg/templeos/
    I just upload them to UA-cam.
    Other archive channels that upload from his website:
    / channel (this one is fully automated)
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    Terry's official website: www.templeos.org/

КОМЕНТАРІ • 841

  • @TfNeb_
    @TfNeb_ 4 роки тому +225

    4:08 the birds warning him of the CIA

    • @zytr0x108
      @zytr0x108 3 місяці тому

      What do you mean? The CIA made the birds in order to spy on him. The sound is signaling that they’re running out of battery.

    • @mvp3969
      @mvp3969 16 днів тому

      haahaahhaahaha

  • @anuradhapriyankara5226
    @anuradhapriyankara5226 4 роки тому +450

    I'm upgrading once dark theme is available

    • @mustangrt8866
      @mustangrt8866 3 роки тому +58

      you can change that in the console

    • @rayi512x
      @rayi512x 3 роки тому +13

      zenith os

    • @chemistryenjoyer53
      @chemistryenjoyer53 3 роки тому +9

      @@rayi512x well zenith os isnt really an upgraded version,just same thung only few tweak changes

    • @rayi512x
      @rayi512x 3 роки тому +10

      @@chemistryenjoyer53 but hey, dark theme!

    • @JohnSmith-fq3rg
      @JohnSmith-fq3rg 3 роки тому +5

      @@alialshehri5640 You want to be ran over?

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 5 років тому +2222

    Torvalds only wrote a kernel. Davis wrote an entire OS.

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 5 років тому +47

      I suppose posts like this are sarcastic?

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 5 років тому +141

      @L P Right but how many people used his invention? Building a gasoline car in 2019 alone from nothing is also amazing but largely useless. The key is writing something useful. I probably could write my own kernel and OS as well but if I chose to dedicate decades to that, I couldn't do anything else. Torvalds wrote something that now runs 90% of the world's computers and is obviously very useful.

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 5 років тому +41

      @L P HolyC isn't really much different from C. I've seen his videos and what he is showing is identical to C with very minor changes. Also, no-one was using his OS when he was alive either.
      You're argument is sort of like "if you write stuff on paper and then burn it, no-one can get it!", sure. But I'll use Linux on my laptop, thanks. The goal is to use the computer as a tool.

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 5 років тому +30

      @L P So you're paranoid. Linux is open source and I'm quite confident about its security. Oh yeah, I forgot that TempleOS doesn't have internet access, makes sense he was using Ubuntu for close to everything. Bill Gates is a genius (but also quite evil), Torvals is as well as already mentioned.

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 5 років тому +15

      @L P Ok if you want to be literal. Someone uses it but I bet it's not more than a handful of people. Maybe it will find an use in some industrial systems but I highly doubt it. As a desktop OS it's pointless, we are not so starved for resources these days.

  • @generalralph6291
    @generalralph6291 5 років тому +397

    The compiler is written in Holy C.

    • @verl0000
      @verl0000 4 роки тому +40

      No the compiler is written in C++. The compiler is what compiles HolyC

    • @generalralph6291
      @generalralph6291 4 роки тому +1

      @@verl0000 The more you know

    • @franciscofarias6385
      @franciscofarias6385 4 роки тому +14

      More interesting: The name, Holy C. That was funny

    • @davidmella1174
      @davidmella1174 4 роки тому

      @@yaroslavgolub9475 so compiled c++?

    • @duranium4445
      @duranium4445 4 роки тому +28

      @@verl0000 It was written in C and then rewritten in Holy C.
      That's how you do compilers when using another lanugage to start from.

  • @judefadly4362
    @judefadly4362 7 років тому +1085

    putting graphics in source code is amazing, i legitimately wish linux could do this

    • @ryanmcconkey6204
      @ryanmcconkey6204 7 років тому +186

      that is true. i am thinking of trying this OS out. i wish it had networking , that would be sweet. But it makes up for it for being so damn fast. even thought the graphics are a little strange, it is interesting to be able to draw graphics directly onto the screen . this is the only os i have seen do this. I want to learn to code in HolyC. that is fucking awesome. Does he have documentation on his HolyC ? i dont understand things like his U0 types in the functions, like U0 Main(). i wanna learn this stuff. its amazing. i know a little c code but this is amazing.

    • @WilliamShinal
      @WilliamShinal 6 років тому +35

      I'm going to keep this OS for posterity sake.

    • @ltxr9973
      @ltxr9973 6 років тому +124

      Absolutely, this is what amazes me about TempleOS - everything can be woven into anything. Graphics, the whole Hypertext thing and so on. Everything just fits. That's just extremely beautiful. The beauty of logic so to speak, staying coherent not only on a technical level but also on a conceptual one.

    • @halfway2hell
      @halfway2hell 6 років тому +25

      It's based off commodore 64 but would be cool to see someone program some networking into it

    • @LasDesventurasdeVirus
      @LasDesventurasdeVirus 6 років тому +25

      Well, in some way you can do it with Jupyter notebooks, but I'm sure they took the idea from TempleOS.

  • @MrBerndderboss
    @MrBerndderboss 6 років тому +347

    Because it has realistic elephants

    • @DonRoyalX
      @DonRoyalX 5 років тому

      Death to Anime Avatars liked because your name

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 роки тому +3

      I wouldn't mind seeing the world thru pixels...
      my perfect world would be in homm3 graphics lol :DDDDD

  • @Patrick.Weightman
    @Patrick.Weightman 4 роки тому +386

    Terry was the first to improve the C syntax in a way that isn't n-licious

  • @Jermicidal
    @Jermicidal 4 роки тому +69

    '"Asia should be yellow"

  • @emsicz
    @emsicz 4 роки тому +71

    When he said that he created assembler, unassembler and C compiler just to add quick context to a sentence describing a command in HIS OWN OS, I legitimately thought of Law Abiding Citizen. Seems to me like this is the guy you actually really don’t want to piss off. At first I thought this isn’t really anything to learn from, but man. This OS is literally a learning tool for kids and adults. You can’t get any closer to the bare metal as he said, this is great.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +10

      computers should strive to be like that.
      Computers nowadays are so complex its insane honestly.
      I just finished watching Ben Eater's videos on building a fucking CPU by hand, and i cant tell you how simple it truly was.
      Kinda made me realize just how insanely stupid modern day code truly is.
      We got all these abstractions that litterally dont even fix the problem.
      You litterally gotta put more mental effort manging those "abstractions" than you do without em.
      Lowkey we should all just make shit as baremetal as possible.
      It makes shit wayyy easier to understand.

    • @KnjazNazrath
      @KnjazNazrath 11 місяців тому +1

      @@honkhonk8009 Literally Davis' outlook. He hated macros for the exact reasons you mentioned.

  • @liamc7864
    @liamc7864 6 років тому +257

    Did you hear that bird though? No wonder he went crazy

    • @gacomics5951
      @gacomics5951 5 років тому +28

      He killed the bird.

    • @gacomics5951
      @gacomics5951 5 років тому +41

      @Huff Poster He fkn said it himself "smashed its head off the table. No more bird".

    • @Nikwunu
      @Nikwunu 4 роки тому +30

      liberated from the bird 囲ベぼア

    • @bigboysdotcom745
      @bigboysdotcom745 4 роки тому +16

      Someone speculated that the bird is singing the song from one of his games, and it sounds eerily similar

    • @lars3989
      @lars3989 4 роки тому +14

      @@bigboysdotcom745 his bird is an imitating species and usually sings in melodic pitches because we tend to speak/listen to melodic and 12-tone tempered harmony. The bird's have probably been subjected to tons of his RNG-music which caused them to imitate such eery 'songs'

  • @toreole5831
    @toreole5831 4 роки тому +32

    He can just zoom and pan in anywhere, thats absolutely fantastic

  • @guydeborde3222
    @guydeborde3222 7 років тому +622

    Your a genius man. Sad most people just won't get you until you've been nuetralized by the glow in the darx

  • @theblackhundreds7124
    @theblackhundreds7124 5 років тому +583

    His whole system is 2mb. 2mb. Wtf. Nintendo games weren't even that low.

    • @vaxrvaxr
      @vaxrvaxr 5 років тому +68

      Yes they were. Before they got to your country I suppose.

    • @santiagolerin
      @santiagolerin 4 роки тому +107

      Nintendo games for the nes were about 40KB

    • @bogartwilley
      @bogartwilley 4 роки тому +40

      Lol the man is clearly a beast of a programmer

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 роки тому +6

      GNX 64bit from 1996 fitted 1.44mb floppy disk

    • @ogueyratogeyrat7448
      @ogueyratogeyrat7448 4 роки тому +5

      @@bogartwilley god

  • @fsfx
    @fsfx 4 роки тому +110

    he built his own world. it wasnt pretty, but it was his own

    • @thedoublehelix5661
      @thedoublehelix5661 3 роки тому +37

      It was pretty

    • @Cons-Cat
      @Cons-Cat 3 роки тому +26

      It was God's.

    • @niggacockball7995
      @niggacockball7995 Рік тому

      >no networking (impossible to hack or get get spyed on by "jogger" intelligence agency
      >in god's reccomended resolution
      >easy 3d graphics support
      >insanely optimized
      how more pretty can it be?

  • @randomdude_12335
    @randomdude_12335 Рік тому +26

    It's cool how files just magically get compressed when you name them something that ends in ".Z"

  • @MyVitros
    @MyVitros 4 роки тому +296

    Imagine terry didn’t die. But was kidnapped by an organization who wanted his ability to make a custom operating system

    • @cartoonhead9222
      @cartoonhead9222 4 роки тому +94

      Don't need to imagine. We know the glow in the darks got him.

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj 4 роки тому +29

      They already did... they called "cia nggers"
      Didn't you pay any attention, he constantly hinted, that cia made him schizophrenic... and wants him back to work on some evil shit

    • @yasserarguelles6117
      @yasserarguelles6117 4 роки тому +18

      @@Microphunktv-jb3kj he tried to escape but couldn't run them all over

    • @thebirdhasbeencharged
      @thebirdhasbeencharged 4 роки тому +2

      🤔 Really punish

    • @WaterBuizel
      @WaterBuizel 4 роки тому

      ya cia

  • @Theineluctable_SOME_CANT
    @Theineluctable_SOME_CANT 2 роки тому +33

    I do LOVE his ideas...
    Clever genius who's mind was hampered by his brain. Very sad, yet beautiful.

  • @krtirtho
    @krtirtho 3 роки тому +125

    It feels like Davis is teaching us the entire operating system flow just before he died. I think we've to take his effort to the upper level by collaborating in his project. Though he died I hope that the source code is open. He deserves a better recognition.

    • @visivoo3845
      @visivoo3845 2 роки тому +34

      The source code is not only open, it is easily accessible by TempleOS.
      If you boot templeOS u can see each source file

    • @timltimothy3295
      @timltimothy3295 Рік тому +7

      Yeah everything just remembers him as being schizophrenic or racist

    • @psychopathmedia
      @psychopathmedia Рік тому

      @@timltimothy3295 Those are the normalf4gs that only heard of him after he became a meme on social media

    • @Kim_YoJong
      @Kim_YoJong 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@timltimothy3295 not true, sir. We remember his achievements

    • @timltimothy3295
      @timltimothy3295 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Kim_YoJong I’m saying that in perspective the hormones would think that

  • @shaneirwin9461
    @shaneirwin9461 6 років тому +122

    The world SHOULD miss Terry A Davis.
    I sure do........

    • @TheIncognitusMe
      @TheIncognitusMe 5 років тому +5

      Shane Irwin You know what didn’t miss Terry?
      The train.

    • @albonfan9144
      @albonfan9144 5 років тому +26

      @@TheIncognitusMe so edgy and funny

    • @i_am_ini
      @i_am_ini 2 роки тому +3

      @@TheIncognitusMe you know who didnt miss you? your dad when he went to get milk

    • @TheIncognitusMe
      @TheIncognitusMe 2 роки тому

      @@i_am_ini Cigarettes, idiot.

    • @nervili583
      @nervili583 Рік тому +1

      @@i_am_ini hahahahaa xddddd you are the funny guy arent you

  • @SoftBreadSoft
    @SoftBreadSoft 4 роки тому +114

    7:10 is reason enough. Drawing on screen in one line, no 1500 lines of boilerplate to prepare a Window necessary.

    • @RacmusDK
      @RacmusDK 4 роки тому +23

      Well that's because he's coding on such a low level of abstraction... Low level code on a windows machine could also create a simple circle but that wouldn't make sense. You have to take account of the all the complexity you're given on a modern high level language today.. I mean- look at that screen? in all honesty it looks like something from the early 90's..

    • @tcmasters123
      @tcmasters123 4 роки тому +21

      @@RacmusDK I feel that was on purpose as he liked the C64 and hated having to write lots of code.

    • @manuell3505
      @manuell3505 4 роки тому +2

      Ever tried GWBASIC?

    • @daviddanis6385
      @daviddanis6385 4 роки тому +8

      @@spagetmen WIndows is a clusterfuck because it can run pretty much anything compiled for a ms operating system from the past 2 decades. Templeos has... a few crappy games.
      Also what the hell does superior integration mean? Integration of what exactly?
      I also don't get how people think writing software in a custom, more advanced version of C is simple at all. Have you ever tried writing something in C? Unless you're writing an OS it's not worth the effort.

    • @daviddanis6385
      @daviddanis6385 4 роки тому +1

      @@spagetmen I wouldn't know about that, I haven't messed with older windows versions in-depth. How was it a clusterfuck? I don't mean it's weaknesses, I mean unnecessary complexity.
      Still, it's legacy is weighing down on current windows heavily. For example the new things they're adding like the settings menu, but at the same time leaving in the old stuff so it's even more convoluted.
      In any case, that doesn't change anything about the other things I've said or about linux etc.

  • @dachers1238
    @dachers1238 6 років тому +91

    4:53 "That's pretty funny... that's my screenshots for my... oh" Yeah yeah we get it man. No explanation needed.

    • @SexycuteStudios
      @SexycuteStudios 6 років тому +8

      And all in bitmap lel

    • @Dornatum
      @Dornatum 6 років тому +1

      Screenshots for what?

    • @dachers1238
      @dachers1238 6 років тому +3

      @@Dornatum You know "screenshots of what"

    • @lechurrajo
      @lechurrajo 5 років тому +60

      There's no place for that in a holy OS

    • @jojolafrite90
      @jojolafrite90 5 років тому +4

      You mean porn, right?

  • @lxghtless
    @lxghtless 4 роки тому +16

    Flow chart-like annotations directly within source code. I like that idea.

    • @blyaticon8190
      @blyaticon8190 4 роки тому +4

      Imagine making sth like a Mindmap directly in the code or put functions on different places and connect them with arrows in the code so you don't get lost

    • @kuklama0706
      @kuklama0706 3 роки тому +1

      @@blyaticon8190 Choose your own adventure but it's code?

    • @MrDarren690
      @MrDarren690 2 роки тому +2

      I always thought that graphics in code was interesting. I mean you can put everything into these files, right? With the rise of personal knowledge management it makes me wonder if we could use TempleOS as the ultimate note-taking app.

  • @BarnacleButtock
    @BarnacleButtock 6 років тому +447

    "Australia kinda got screwed" He's too real tbh

  • @RandomCoffee101
    @RandomCoffee101 3 роки тому +11

    Rest In Peace Terry, and God please save his soul

  • @neonz2712
    @neonz2712 6 років тому +5

    Jesus christ, that bird is driving me fucking insane, no wonder he killed it

  • @yousellouts
    @yousellouts 4 роки тому +8

    This was the video that made me discover TempleOS back in 2018, legendary!

  • @dagmerrie
    @dagmerrie 4 роки тому +108

    I dont understand how people can bash on such a hard working humble guy that shares all of his innovative secrets with the whole world, why dont just be nice and appreciate someone that is so dedicated to his passion, i mean who cares if linux is more useful the guy was schizophrenic and still created something so magnificent in just 2 megabytes

    • @dmitri8117
      @dmitri8117 4 роки тому +15

      Nobody is bashing on him when they say that what he did isn't super useful. They're correcting the fanboys who assume he's the smartest guy on planet earth and don't understand that writing operating systems and programming languages is something that every CS student within the last 10 years has done in class. It isn't a knock on him, obviously he was a smart guy. But his stuff should be viewed more as art rather than technical achievement like people seem to think. I'm sure everyone appreciates it for what it is.

    • @brycegman8150
      @brycegman8150 3 роки тому +8

      He wasn't humble, either. Lol, I'm not saying he wasn't sick but the man was not shy about saying he was the best

    • @DarkShroom
      @DarkShroom 3 роки тому +3

      because of the hype
      he's a thicko, but you have non-programmers saying he's a genius.... it gets irritating for people who are professionals....... this guy is not even on the same level as Linus Torvads, Guido Van Rossum, Bjarne Stroustrup etc
      expect to find hostile types in anything that people really give a shit about, if people just "got along" you wouldn't have your computer there

    • @visivoo3845
      @visivoo3845 2 роки тому +14

      Linux is not more useful than TempleOS because TempleOS was never intended to be a "3rd party" consumer item.
      When you use gmail, you are using 3rd party. You didn't make the email server.
      When you use google chrome, that is 3rd party.
      TempleOS was designed so the user becomes a developer. You have to learn everything. You learn how the assembler works, how the compiler works, etc.
      TempleOS would have internet if you coded the TCP/IP stack. It's designed to FORCE you to learn and "talk to god".
      Linux will never force you to learn all that.
      I love linux. I use linux. But you dont have to be a developer to use linux. U do on TempleOS

    • @Vibekilla
      @Vibekilla Рік тому +1

      @@DarkShroom you sound like a whiney hater.

  • @andrewjohnson5365
    @andrewjohnson5365 6 років тому +10

    I still can't believe your gone good Sir I hope you are at peace now King T.

  • @alexanderbrine4762
    @alexanderbrine4762 3 роки тому +12

    I find Terry's voice soothing

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +1

      Lol same ikr???
      I thought it was just me.
      I can hear this mf talk for hours. Idk why

  • @sergio4660
    @sergio4660 3 роки тому +8

    holy fucking shit, he truly was the smartest programmer that's ever lived

  • @Matheus-ki9zo
    @Matheus-ki9zo 4 роки тому +115

    It's simple:
    One was made by a king, the other was made by a gaylord.

    • @SaidMetiche-qy9hb
      @SaidMetiche-qy9hb 4 роки тому +7

      😂 Torvalds hasn't even written the kernel alone he had to call his boyfriends

  • @cursedfox4942
    @cursedfox4942 Рік тому +23

    Anyways the fact that it compiles and executes line by line as he writes it is very impressive

  • @mokenetgumshoe1064
    @mokenetgumshoe1064 6 років тому +3

    The fucking bird going off full tilt made me laugh so harf

  • @q7b663
    @q7b663 4 роки тому +29

    Hes a good man, his schitzoprenia should've been treated and should be studied more.

    • @4793torororo
      @4793torororo 4 роки тому

      Q7B what the fuck are you doing here nigga

    • @bf_83
      @bf_83 4 роки тому +6

      if you are mostly staying at home you will be getting depressed, by focusing on lower stuff, if youre not going outside and dont having freinds to have fun in life youre geting lonely as hell
      so in fact its mosly a social problem and self problem
      second its eating and drinking the best for staying healthy
      no need for medical drugs
      even you are too often outside or most of youre time you can get also sick/ill
      depends on physical and mentally state on each person

    • @sur4y
      @sur4y 3 роки тому

      @@bf_83 ok psychiatrist

    • @F1lip3JF
      @F1lip3JF 10 місяців тому +1

      @@bf_83 You said it all

  • @lithostheory
    @lithostheory 5 років тому +62

    That bird would drive me literally crazy.

  • @dasinhaberlicht3998
    @dasinhaberlicht3998 6 років тому +9

    This system is pretty neat, imo. Also, RIP king of the temple OS

  • @jarodjohnson7713
    @jarodjohnson7713 6 років тому +2

    God damn... No fucking wonder he chucked that bird against the wall.

  • @heraldoriviera3851
    @heraldoriviera3851 6 років тому +86

    ...is that the bird he murdered?? oh my

    • @hal900x
      @hal900x 6 років тому +115

      I can kinda see why tbh

    • @itsOculus
      @itsOculus 6 років тому +92

      >murdered
      *executed

    • @jonathanolson772
      @jonathanolson772 6 років тому +9

      probably never saw the light. Bad living conditions

    • @amirabudubai2279
      @amirabudubai2279 6 років тому +34

      He had two. Maybe. He had the first one for a long time and he was was highly distressed when it dead.
      The 2nd one may have not existed to begin with. The story of how he got it was obviously a disillusion and he had an extreme hatred of it like he did for most of his imaginary figures.

    • @jojolafrite90
      @jojolafrite90 5 років тому

      Lol.

  • @crypastesomemore8348
    @crypastesomemore8348 4 роки тому +7

    “Australia sort of got a screwed” lulz

  • @dipi71
    @dipi71 6 років тому +4

    »Better« is an awfully subjective notion, especially in Terry’s case.
    May he rest in peace.

  • @perpetualcollapse
    @perpetualcollapse Рік тому +24

    I hope people eventually create a fork of TempleOS and continued developing it. It honestly could become something more than a meme.

    • @HardCase1911
      @HardCase1911 Рік тому

      This is garbage.

    • @SGSP3
      @SGSP3 11 місяців тому +2

      @conor5148 Yes it does, no it isn't, and yes it is.

    • @spacedaniel492
      @spacedaniel492 11 місяців тому +1

      @conor5148well it isn’t useful so….

    • @AAAAAA-bn6qt
      @AAAAAA-bn6qt 11 місяців тому +1

      @@spacedaniel492 well then your blind so...

  • @user-gi8xg2ki7q
    @user-gi8xg2ki7q 6 років тому +33

    bird gone mad

  • @snippletrap
    @snippletrap 4 роки тому +11

    In some ways it's like a Jupyter Notebook for C. Super cool to have this integrated into the shell.

  • @VexaS1n
    @VexaS1n 4 роки тому +2

    The speaks completely lucid here! I have read somewhere that a hobby or passion tames the mental illness temporarily for some people. I think music has similar effecs.

  • @pongopea
    @pongopea Рік тому +2

    he was a true genius, sad his mental issues got in the way, he didn't deserve to go like that

  • @ckingufwgleej3362
    @ckingufwgleej3362 4 роки тому +7

    Terry's bird was MKultra'd

  • @pureheroin9902
    @pureheroin9902 6 років тому +6

    RIP TERRY

  • @jamuson4359
    @jamuson4359 3 роки тому +1

    Living with birds will drive you crazy

  • @tomtomtomtom691
    @tomtomtomtom691 6 років тому +4

    It’s ironic that a man with such vision was killed by a train he didn’t see.

    • @Roger-xb7gg
      @Roger-xb7gg 6 років тому +11

      he had been homeless for a year, it was suicide :(

    • @knpstrr
      @knpstrr 6 років тому +1

      Roger Why did his parents kick him out?

    • @tomtomtomtom691
      @tomtomtomtom691 6 років тому +4

      In the video where he has an epic confrontation with his parents, his cia father becomes unhappy about being in videos and calls terry a skinhead.

    • @knpstrr
      @knpstrr 6 років тому +2

      Yes, I saw that, still: you can't kick your schizo son out.

    • @jman12849
      @jman12849 5 років тому +1

      @@knpstrr he got arrested for battery though, against his father IIRC

  • @harikrishnankv1659
    @harikrishnankv1659 6 років тому +14

    Damn defense missile.cpp

  • @oddmetre
    @oddmetre 7 місяців тому +1

    That fucking bird

  • @gringotroller
    @gringotroller 3 роки тому +1

    This will be the OS of post apocalyptic society

  • @burnedoils
    @burnedoils 6 років тому +10

    better coder ever lived... point!

    • @crylune
      @crylune Рік тому

      why do you have a pfp of war crimes?

  • @TheCocoaDaddy
    @TheCocoaDaddy 4 роки тому +19

    Question: Did Mr Davis have an "issue" with Linux or are others comparing his TempleOS to Linux? Why would Mr Davis care about Linux at all, since he created his own OS? Thanks!

    • @user-hk3ej4hk7m
      @user-hk3ej4hk7m 4 роки тому +27

      I don't think he thought of TempleOS as a replacement for Linux, but more of a place to have fun coding close to the metal. It's impressive he managed to create an OS to have fun, he was a really unique and intelligent man for sure.

    • @TheCocoaDaddy
      @TheCocoaDaddy 4 роки тому +1

      @@user-hk3ej4hk7m Ok, that's cool. I keep hearing him mention Linux in his videos and I wondered why since his creation is incredible, by its own merit. Thanks for the reply!

    • @TheCocoaDaddy
      @TheCocoaDaddy 4 роки тому +3

      @@joselaw6669 UNIX, macOS, Windows, or any other OS. I will admit, comparing to a banana would be quite the creative endeavor. :)

    • @mayankraj2294
      @mayankraj2294 4 роки тому

      @@TheCocoaDaddy comparing banana?

    • @TheCocoaDaddy
      @TheCocoaDaddy 4 роки тому +1

      @@mayankraj2294 Yes, comparing to a banana. :) Jose Ancapdolf Hidler posted a comment referring to comparing to a banana and I was responding to that comment. That comment was taken down, for whatever reason.

  • @arctic.winter
    @arctic.winter 6 років тому +121

    he says UNIX not Linux

    • @shinchan256b7
      @shinchan256b7 6 років тому +5

      Yep. He did.

    • @itsOculus
      @itsOculus 6 років тому +53

      I'd just like to interject for a second

    • @ianpat2768
      @ianpat2768 6 років тому +3

      Yes, linux is unix.

    • @jaykstah
      @jaykstah 6 років тому +13

      @@ianpat2768 Linux is not Unix, it's GNU

    • @xxslajerxx8890
      @xxslajerxx8890 6 років тому +3

      what XD

  • @flaksoft8003
    @flaksoft8003 Рік тому +1

    at 4:09 , i think the bird was the standard output for FindFiles

  • @barryschalkwijk9388
    @barryschalkwijk9388 Рік тому

    imagine this being wordperfect and Terry living long enough to make it into office 360...

  • @Marshblocker
    @Marshblocker 10 місяців тому

    The incremental compilation of Holy C is crazy. Temple OS has a Holy C REPL out of the box.

  • @rawatvipul
    @rawatvipul 5 років тому +7

    Nobody helped him 😟

  • @EnjoyCocaColaLight
    @EnjoyCocaColaLight 7 років тому +169

    How much LSD did the CIA give you?

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem 4 роки тому +1

    i had to check the upload date and make sure this wasn't and April fools video.

  • @donaldduck4082
    @donaldduck4082 5 років тому +7

    I miss Terry. He was brilliant. Are you on Bitchute?

  • @claushellsing
    @claushellsing 4 роки тому +3

    Rip the bird

  • @may007ank
    @may007ank 4 роки тому +2

    He's comparing his OS to UNIX. Doesn't that means he's competing with Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie and not Linus. That's what he said in the opening that he's demonstrating how his OS is better than UNIX.

  • @betabug64
    @betabug64 3 роки тому

    Right in time for this year’s Olympics!

  • @LetterSignedBy51SpiesWasA-Coup
    @LetterSignedBy51SpiesWasA-Coup 4 роки тому

    Just in time...and ahead of time

  • @avananana
    @avananana 4 роки тому +20

    All respect to Terry, what he's made is impressive, there's no way of denying that. But I struggle to see how TempleOS is better than any Unix based system at all? Linux is only a Kernel whilst TempleOS is an entire OS, there's that obviously, along with the 2mb against ~300mb size differences. TempleOS has some cool features, I do like the on-the-go C compiler in the command line, as well as the built-in sprites into HolyC, but that's the only thing that makes TempleOS even remotely interesting to me, compared to let's say Ubuntu, or Arch.
    I will definitely try TempleOS out of pure curiosity whenever I can, but I do think that saying that TempleOS is better than Unix or Linux is a statement that cannot really hold any ground. TempleOS is missing so many features that Unix systems have. I'm not saying the other one is better, I'm just saying that they're incredibly different, almost to the point where saying either is better is a complete waste of words.
    Again, all respect to Terry, he's done something very few people can - at least I cannot built my own OS as I lack the knowledge to do so. It's a shame that he passed away, would love to see where he'd take this in the future.

    • @okaravan
      @okaravan 3 роки тому +5

      Unix has been designed 40 years ago. While hardware changed radically, we haven't seen real innovations in OS design. So any attempts to experiment with it are very interesting. And in software world we have too much of complexity in intermediate layers between software and hardware. Like Direct3D vs Vulkan. Or try to make your own PCIe-based device and access it with your software. There are plenty of situations where most of the UNIX'es features are unnecessary burden. For example, Linux includes all the device drivers in kernel, probably just to eliminate the performance penalty caused by context switching and memory copying. As a result we have a kernel that is 27 MILLIONS lines of code. It is disaster. Imagine developing a small project that has a dependency on 27 millions of lines of third-party code? And size matters, because size is complexity, complexity produces chaos, and chaos kills software. The less the better. The simpler the better.

    • @MrDarren690
      @MrDarren690 2 роки тому +4

      I don't think TempleOS can really be compared to Unix and Linux either. What I do think is that TempleOS is undoubtedly simple and anti-legacy. Terry Davis seems heavily inspired by the hands-on programming of the Commodore 64. And since Terry Davis never cared about implementing old standards, he was free to tweak and develop his OS as he wished.

    • @mrkitty777
      @mrkitty777 Рік тому

      Bill Gates don't like TempleOS if it would have lift off, that could have happened if it were 90s.

    • @niggacockball7995
      @niggacockball7995 Рік тому +1

      @@mrkitty777templeOS would never have taken off as its simply too eye hurting for average joe

  • @drygordspellweaver8761
    @drygordspellweaver8761 Рік тому +3

    The better I get at programming, the more I can appreciate this mans genius. Writing sprites directly to source files. KEK. Drawing a circle to screen with 1 line of code straight from the terminal. Why not? Anyone who has created a window on Windows knows what an absolute clusterfuck it is, let alone rendering graphics.
    He doesn’t use a linker. NO LINKER. Why the fuck are we still using linkers?
    This man could have revolutionized the computing world. Many at least are starting to wake up to the shitshow at least.
    RIP Terry.

    • @demwz
      @demwz Рік тому

      It is About as usefull as a car where you can change the camshaft before entering the highway.

    • @drygordspellweaver8761
      @drygordspellweaver8761 Рік тому +2

      @@demwz Here's a better analogy: it's as useful as a car made of transparent material where you can see right into the inner workings of the engine, transmission, electrical system, and change anything at will on the fly. In other words, extremely useful.

    • @demwz
      @demwz Рік тому

      @@drygordspellweaver8761 boss; ""habe you got the logfiles?" "no, just writing an optimized ls for that. Will safe up to 10 cpu cycles"

    • @Handlessuck1
      @Handlessuck1 Рік тому

      @@demwz Try again...

    • @BumboLooks
      @BumboLooks Рік тому

      It doesn't even take decades to write an OS and Kernel lol.
      That can be done in a month or two for x86 architecture using VGA graphics and standard hardware inputs.
      It is literally a part of some CS student courses.
      That and writing your own programming language and compiler.
      search for "Writing an OS in Rust - Philipp Oppermann's blog".
      That gives a good beginners overview.
      The only amazing thing here is Terry's ability to still code anything whilst being an unmedicated schizophrenic.

  • @matthias916
    @matthias916 Рік тому

    this guy knows what he's talking about

  • @ThunderAppeal
    @ThunderAppeal 4 роки тому +3

    Temple OS is so great that barely anyone has heard of it.
    Amazing.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому

      I cant name a single mf today that hasnt heard of it.

    • @spacedaniel492
      @spacedaniel492 11 місяців тому

      @@honkhonk8009then you only know some autists😂😂😂

  • @maxhughes5687
    @maxhughes5687 5 років тому +23

    Thumbnail: "why tempos is better than Linux" First 10 seconds of video "why tempos is better than UNIX" ?????????

    • @___xyz___
      @___xyz___ 4 роки тому +2

      The title is accurate. The Linux kernel is a derivative of UNIX. >99% of people are more interested in Linux than Unix as a concept.

    • @ishdx9374
      @ishdx9374 4 роки тому

      you don't get it people, unix is environment and linux is kernel. UNIX IS ENVIRONMENT

    • @ishdx9374
      @ishdx9374 4 роки тому

      @John Smith don't twist my words. I just pointed out that linux is not OS. Unix is environment. GNU is environment derived from Unix. There's a collection between Unix and Linux - sure, and is derived from the previous. But it's like saying that plant is an apple. It's true but plant is a higher subset (Unix) while linux is smaller (Kernel)

    • @favor94
      @favor94 4 роки тому +1

      Linux is windows

    • @ishdx9374
      @ishdx9374 4 роки тому +1

      @@favor94 linux is Windows-based OS that originates from old android code

  • @jackh1577
    @jackh1577 4 роки тому +1

    If only people like this became so famous before they die

    • @coolman2805
      @coolman2805 4 роки тому

      to be fair a lot of people were following him and his work before he passed (myself included)

  • @freevbucks8019
    @freevbucks8019 2 роки тому +1

    Ok now this is just genius

  • @KarlOlofsson
    @KarlOlofsson 3 роки тому +2

    Do I understand correctly that the "MENU" is sort of IntelliSense suggestions throughout the entire OS?

  • @Johan-vo1gq
    @Johan-vo1gq 5 років тому

    Fuck that is cool, a sprite directly in the code, holy shit that is awesome

  • @Theineluctable_SOME_CANT
    @Theineluctable_SOME_CANT 2 роки тому +4

    Torvalds wrote a kernel that eventually worked. Terry wrote the whole OS.....
    AND TOOLS!!!!!
    If this guy was not suffering his badly mispatched firmware, he could have been a fucking GOD!
    BUT:
    Life don't work that way, kids.

  • @tthistlethwaite
    @tthistlethwaite 6 років тому +11

    This is amazing

    • @tthistlethwaite
      @tthistlethwaite 6 років тому +1

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    • @HardCase1911
      @HardCase1911 4 роки тому

      Really??? How old are you?

    • @miggyo.2235
      @miggyo.2235 4 роки тому

      HardCase1911 u mad you cant make your own OS from the ground up

    • @fenix3370
      @fenix3370 4 роки тому +1

      @@HardCase1911 jealouse much?

  • @ashtori3435
    @ashtori3435 3 роки тому +1

    its a sin to have a 2 gig print driver

  • @Donatellangelo
    @Donatellangelo 6 років тому +14

    As a "mentally ill" person, I have to say that it's true some there's some shall we say software compatibility issues because not everyone is born with the optimal hardware. BUT....there are interesting software fixes for that.
    You don't have to be a superhero, just find a way to adapt. My problem was never hearing voices, but I know some people that hear the right things so definitely a software issue. If it's all the brain, then it's probably a tumor or a lesion or something else.

    • @rabbitcreative
      @rabbitcreative 5 років тому

      I shall like to give you a map.
      Upgrade "mental illness" into "enviro-mental-illness", and it shall be plain for all to see, that in our, presently very sick, environment(s), that "genius" simply cannot be tolerated. For if genius were tolerated, we could begin to heal our environment(s).
      So those "at the top", simply delete that critical-prefix, "enviro", and delete the hyphen, thereby distancing the words in such a way that the relational-character between the 2 is lost.
      Those "at the top" split verbally, that which cannot be separated empirically.
      Un-sanity ensues...

    • @rabbitcreative
      @rabbitcreative 5 років тому +2

      For you, specifically. You do-not *have* a "mental illness". There is no such *thing* as a "mental illness". Stop labelling yourself as your slave-masters do.
      I *have* a lighter in my pocket. I *have* milk in my belly.
      Words-without-referents are dangerous, WHEN a person acts as-if a referent existing.
      "Unicorn" has no referent, save man-made artifacts, e.g., heraldry, fiction, etc.
      Your "mental illness", is-a "unicorn".

  • @keithrobinson2016
    @keithrobinson2016 2 роки тому

    Reminds me of the philosophy behind Smalltalk.

  • @thegeniusfool
    @thegeniusfool 9 місяців тому

    Smalltalk done wrong. Sorry. I understand the obsession put into this, but…. Just seven standard pieces from the early 80s put together.

  • @SadButter_
    @SadButter_ 4 роки тому

    Man rip him and the bird

  • @ipadize
    @ipadize 4 роки тому +3

    From a user Standpoint i can say that Windows

  • @slypto
    @slypto 4 роки тому

    he has cockatiels...he is a true god

  • @Patrick.Weightman
    @Patrick.Weightman 4 роки тому

    He's not wrong

  • @LazyPirate8
    @LazyPirate8 6 років тому +8

    This man is a saint. #SaintDavis

  • @ScaredFreakyGuy
    @ScaredFreakyGuy 4 роки тому +10

    "Australia just kind of got screwed" Lol oh Terry you magnificent genius madman

  • @FrankZen
    @FrankZen 3 роки тому

    "Australia just got screwed" hahaha

  • @MsHojat
    @MsHojat 6 років тому +23

    I really like that vector graphics program he made. The 3D editor is pretty neat too although I haven't seen much of it and don't know much about it.
    Problem is it's pretty pointless with it's terrible resolution and lack of all sorts of other features.

    • @BarnacleButtock
      @BarnacleButtock 6 років тому +29

      Just as God intended lol

    • @leonk6950
      @leonk6950 5 років тому +16

      Well, God said 640*480

    • @bf_83
      @bf_83 4 роки тому +1

      you could change that resolution.... if you will

    • @christopherfortineux5421
      @christopherfortineux5421 4 роки тому +2

      It requires zero gpu use? LOL kinda the point.

  • @saint_n9ne
    @saint_n9ne 4 роки тому +1

    Damn CIA glow bird won't shut up

  • @robegatt
    @robegatt Рік тому +1

    All I see is Holy C

  • @NuevoVR
    @NuevoVR 6 років тому +2

    this is really cool

  • @AgeofReason
    @AgeofReason 4 роки тому +1

    Muh libraries

  • @elliswrong
    @elliswrong 10 місяців тому

    red like what, terry?

  • @jeff-do6bu
    @jeff-do6bu 3 роки тому +1

    "Gnu'S not Unix" it's in the name bruh

  • @oskarroebuck6425
    @oskarroebuck6425 2 роки тому +1

    is that a bird making that noise?

  • @Theenemy38
    @Theenemy38 6 років тому +13

    Is he still working on this operating system?

    • @movAX13h
      @movAX13h 6 років тому +1

      sometimes ... ua-cam.com/channels/JZTn-fPu-uIA55UI47_cXg.html

    • @fightingtypegymleadermicha1539
      @fightingtypegymleadermicha1539 6 років тому +44

      yes
      he is always looking for ways to shorten the code without removing any functionality
      NEVER SUGGEST ADDING MORE FEATURES THEY ARE BLOAT AND WILL SLOW GODS HOLY TEMPLE

    • @DyoKasparov
      @DyoKasparov 6 років тому +1

      "Jesus killed the swine"

    • @games4us132
      @games4us132 6 років тому +31

      no. He passed away a few days ago. RIP Terry.

    • @cptnbrown
      @cptnbrown 6 років тому +33

      He sure is... he needed direct access to the source so he is working on it server side

  • @davidprock904
    @davidprock904 5 років тому

    Take them birds to another room, oh too late, sorry

  • @Sypaka
    @Sypaka 4 роки тому +7

    What would happen, if someone would use that as a codebase for a "modern" OS.
    Entirely written in HolyC, graphics turned up to 4K, a smooth GUI (because THIS is awful), networking, Account management reintroduced, HolyKern moved to Ring0, but everything else in the right Rings, etc.
    How much memory would it use, how fast would it be?

    • @SlimbTheSlime
      @SlimbTheSlime 4 роки тому +10

      To deface the third holy temple of God would be a sin.

    • @derleo89
      @derleo89 4 роки тому +4

      About 5.

    • @Galomortalbr
      @Galomortalbr 3 роки тому

      I imagine it could been optimised to fight inside an GameCube hardware

    • @qwerte6948
      @qwerte6948 Рік тому

      it would be cool but usseless becouse of lack of software... tho maybe it is possible to make it compatible with linux but at that point why not just make a linux distro?

  • @davidnjkilla
    @davidnjkilla 4 роки тому +12

    This guy and his OS are quite amazing. However, I can't imagine anything being better than Unix design principles even if Linux is not Unix it was still made under Unix design principles.

    • @nukiradio
      @nukiradio 4 роки тому +2

      Uh...
      Why is it impossible to improve unix or linux?

    • @davidnjkilla
      @davidnjkilla 4 роки тому +1

      @@nukiradio I'm not saying it's impossible to improve Unix/Linux. They are being improved everyday. I'm saying the core design principles are pretty hard to beat, which is why Unix and Unix like OSes have been around so long and not been replaced by something "better".

    • @Guztav1337
      @Guztav1337 4 роки тому +5

      @@davidnjkilla No you are missing one dimension. The economy dictates the progression of technology. People don't want to move away from it because of the costs to use a system nobody else uses.

    • @avananana
      @avananana 4 роки тому +9

      @@Guztav1337 True, but it also comes down to the fact that Unix systems are literally designed to run massive systems with simplistic management. I'm not saying that Unix is the absolute best solution that will ever come around, but it is one of the best solutions that is currently available.

    • @tylerchambers6246
      @tylerchambers6246 2 роки тому +6

      @@avananana Terry's whole point is that philosophy is outdated thinking, it is the thinking behind IBM Mainframes from the 70s where 100 people had to share limited memory on one machine that absolutely could never be allowed to crash. Why would a modern user's smartphone or personal laptop need to be designed for the same way, like you said, like a 'massive system needing simplistic management'?