Over Engineering a Badwater MEGA Dam in Timberborn!
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I love this series!
Here are some tips for you if you're interested:
1). Beavers don't eat berries unless there is no other food available, so when your storage is full there is no point in gathering more berries. It's good to keep them as a backup food.
2). You have plenty of food growing in your fields, prioritize planting over harvesting because they are picking up all carrots from fields before planting new one - your fields are empty for the most time because of that, thus you have to wait longer to get food, and that's where your problem with food is/was/will be. Instead when you prioritize planting, they will pick up crops and plant them at that spot almost at the same time, which would mean new crops are growing while the grown ones are being picked up. Those berry pickers would be far more useful in farms. And no, you don't have "so much food."
3). You need either scaffoldings next to your tall building projects (as tall as those builds) or a staircase leading to the very top and a path there so they can build from the top instead of from the bottom.
4). You will need more water storage - you've unlocked gears workshop, unlock medium water tanks which are a lot better.
5). Generally speaking the number of water sources stones is also the width you need to prevent your dam from overtopping. For example for 4 water sources you need 4 floodgates in each direction.
6). Buildings share power with adjacent buildings, so you don't have to connect everything with gear shafts - I personally love watching and hearing gears spinning so I connect everything with shafts
Thankyou so much for all the tips, very helpful 👌😁
haulers don't carry materials to the worksite right?
and you can build over tree stumps, no need to remove them
@@takumi2023 for construction? They don't. That's correct.
Very good points. I'll add one: berries are very inefficient use of land, too. Get rid of them. Just keep a small patch for future industrial needs.
I have watched Timberborn with RCE, Blitz, Keralis, Kibitz, and now Biffa. Tell me how I never realized the mouse pointer is a freaking gnawed down log??
I changed mine to look like that - not seen it used before :-)
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines well now I feel much better about noticing that
I think you would love skystorm as well his megaporjects are true beavergod
@@andismisans7594 yeah I've seen his stuff too. I've just never really gotten into his channel
We met once 😁
When you're building scafoldings for tall building projects, you should build it to the top.
The beavers can reach unlimited tiles down, they can build the first floor while standing on 10th. But they can only build 1 up.
And for stairs, the rules are similar for top and bottom of thd stairs, but they can not, at all, build to the sides no matter the height up or down.
Ah thankyou 😁👍
Came to the comments to tell Biffa exactly this. Glad he saw it already!
Even though entire dam design was terribly inefficient, it did look authentic and was quite satisfying seeing the scaffolding as if it were a real engineering project.
16:30 folktails will not touch a berry outside of work unless there is nothing else to eat
As much as I've always loved your CS 1 and 2, it's nice to see you branching out with something different. Love ya, Biffa!
Thankyou, much appreciated 👍😁
You can delete stumps instantly by placing a path on it. Saves beaver labour for them removing them.
4:53 use 12 levees to surround a 3x3 tile square and use a water dump to fill it , then you have farm land that will never get bad water and die
They only eat berries if there is nothing else. Prioritise carrots and potato storage, not berry. You don't need to clear tree stumps, they will go when you build/plant over them. I did my dam at the stop which worked well particularly when wanting power as the top flat area is great for industry. Keep it up. Great job.
Thankyou for the tips 👍😁
"What's gonna happen?"
My guess is that the two floodgates on the side don't have enough throughput, and the bad tide is going to overflow everywhere - assuming he closes the main floodgates in time.
Ooooh boy 😉👍
All that water was already going through two dams before so it should be fine in that respect.
My problem with the project is that it could have been done much simpler with a dam across the other side of the T.
"Standard" waterwheel build on water no need shaft rise when connecting to building on land.
Centre of wheel is only 1up from base, so fits perfectly.
If You buliding "big wheel for iron teeth" centre is 2up from base, so shaft must be adjusted.
Move the rooftop seating on the houses out of the way so there can be stacked houses with a path from the already created staircase
you mention haulers bring materials to the worksite, i don't think they do that. do they? from what i remember they only carry things from production to storage. you might as well build another builder hut.
also that dam is going to trap bad water behind the levees why didn't you just add a row of flood gate at the bottom of the lake? or 3 flood gate and the rest levees would be easier to build than the stuff you have now.
beaver don't build sideways on the stairs
Just chill ok
"A group of beaver superheroes" (one beaver serving high tea... I have to know it's superpower.
This game looks really fun. Hopefully you continue the gameplay Biffa!
Thankyou. Every Saturday 👍😁
that hole with trees in it can be used to make a aquatic farm, just put a water dump on a platform in the hole then fill the sounding area with trees/crops
You cheeky beaver, leaving us with such a cliffhanger! Looks like such a fun game. I might have to get it while I wait on Cities Skylines II official mods, custom assets, map editor, etc (250 hrs logged so far but need those extras that will make the game so much more fun). Let's go, Team Berborn!
Hope you enjoy it! 😁
5:03 That natural canal to the right is blocked by some rubble or trash or something. If you set that to be removed, the canal will flood and so irrigate more land.
Do more of this, please. 🙏
Every Saturday guaranteed 👍😁
super video, biffa! But the haulers don't carry stuff to the construction site, just so you know;
Oooooh! Thanks 😁👍
Thanks 👍
First bad tide I experienced, I wasn't at all prepared, but I had enough food and water to survive it, and immediately began construction of flood gates
yeah same. i started on the same map biffa's on. i immediately started building a dam with triple flood gates at the bottom of the waterfall and double gates at the top then started working on dynamite. i made a hole in the left wall so every bad tide i'd just reroute the bad water off the map until it was over, lol.
Once you've experienced it the plans come thick and fast! 😁
I'm still on my first game, and wasn't prepared for it coming down the clean river either, and though my beavers could survive it I hated seeing everything else dying so much that I went back to an earlier autosave, to give myself enough time to construct adequate floodgates before the first badtide hits.
It means I'm behind on gears and getting my first metal, and the rest of the game progression, but at least my beavers and crops and trees are safe.
Now I really need to work towards getting dynamite!
I do hope future badtides won't be much worse than the first one, it really isn't a part of the game I find fun to play with.
24:44 In the most recent update on the “Live” branch (not beta), Medium diffuculty has been made more merciful, so that the first Badtide lasts only 1 day, and the durations of Droughts and Badtides will increase separately, overall making the game less hard for longer, although as I understand it, you’ll still reach the max durations for both eventually.
so glad RCE is helping you by giving tips and tricks of the game
He's been very helpful 😁
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines he know's what his talking about in Timberborn, I know he mess around but he is quite good in what he does in the game
Quite the cliffhanger there Biffa though I hope the smaller floodgates are enough 🤔
Me too...!
A little tip.
Building can be done from any height from above, however building from below the beavers can only reach upwards 2. So they can reach the ground level as well as 1 level up, thats why the stairs in front if the dam let them build some parts but not others. The lower portions of the stairs were too low to allow them to build up fully. That being said the proper way to go about building such a project is to first build up the scaffolding. Start with the proper platforms to get 2 stairs upwards then a row if platforms at that same height. So basicall a row of 2 tall platforms with a single tall platform on one end for the stairs to sit on top of. Then build up another row of 2 tall platforms on top the previous platforms, again with a 1 tall at the end to accommodate the stairs going up, then place the stairs and start working on the next row of platforms. Rinse and repeat until your desired height is met and start building your large project from there, right next to the scaffolding.
Remember they can reach forever downwards (somehow) but can only reach up (from ground level) 2 blocks.
0:28 top editor love the image
If it's the super heroes that was me! :-)
I play the same map. Right at the source is another riverbed righthandside. While there is a bad water flood, I just redirect the bad water to the right side :-)
Now all we need is a Team of Boarders and a Timberborners crossover.
Come on RCE do the crossover we all want!
This game needs some form of automation. For instance the plank thing.. Imagine if you could just leave it on, and when the internal storage got filled, instead of the beaver just sitting idle on his butt, the factory got automatically paused, releasing the beaver to do other tasks.. and when planks were again used for stuff, the plankfactory got unpaused, putting a beaver back to generate more planks.
Sure, some love the micromanagement.. Personally, i enjoy the potential of choosing to add some automation like that.
..there's probably a mod for that.
I love Timberborn. I have clocked ~ 500 hours on it. Having that kind of quality of life improvement is nice. The thing is, even now, without the automation you suggest, the game puts a huge load on the CPU. In a village with above 1000 beavers you need a beast of a CPU to catch up with the processing demand, specially on higher game speeds. I wonder if the devs might be hesitant to add more load on the CPU.
BIFFA! That is such an evil place to stop an episode. It’s a good job I only just found this series and saturday is actually only a couple of days away!! 😂
Did you just said Timberborn"er" at 00:18??? You are now one of strongest engineer!!!
Not sure if you're aware of it or not, you don't have to clear stumps manually like I see at 13:34. The easiest way is to just plant crops or trees right over the stumps. If you're just clearing them to clear them, you can build paths over them and use the clearing tool to remove the paths... Much quicker and doesn't require labor.
You know you can make bread in this game. They should add in jam for the later game, put those hundreds of berries to use, give a good boost.
Great idea 😁
Just absolutely LOVE this series Biffa. I am playing this on my channel. such a great game!!
Glad you enjoy it!
Liked for the Beaver Superhero Team before I've watched any of the video.
Lol thank you! :-)
What a Cliff hanger!
I wasn't happy with some of your choice after first episode, so I started this as my U5 map :) I have managed to get dynamite and opened the second stream upstream just in time before the bad tide. Let me just say that three wide is not enough and I cannot wait for next episode :)
That wasn't a visual glitch ,if you didn't put levee's in the corners of your dam it will leak ,nice to see you enjoying this game .
It's a visual glitch. A very persistent one! The devs are doing a great job with addressing bugs and adding features, but this glitch has been around since forever.
You are correct, Spatterdock is grown in the water. It is, at least in the US, also known as Lily Pads, as the Icon shows there.
I just used 2 gates on each side with a load of levy’s 2 blocks high splitting the flow high to divert the water down the secondary path and away from the main city
Nice idea! 😁
Biffa the building style works as you would think, but you have to start from the "top down" then build a full dam and delete levees and add flood gates
More so with building dams, they can reach far down but not "far up"
I am at time code 13:24 and I can already tell this dam is not going to end well.
I found a mix of oak and birch worked out well for tree harvesting. The oak takes a long time but yields quite a bit per tree. Birch are quick but only generates one log per tree. That way you end up with a small, steady income of logs with an occasional large bump in the supply. Otherwise you are just chasing your log production. Waiting for the trees to grow.
I always use Oak and Pine. Pine only takes 3 days longer than birch but gives 2 logs instead of 1
@@samtro plus later you can get resin as well
Good idea 😁👍
The cliffhanger! 👏
The big dam at the beginning does very little for you ACTUALLY
1:42 just use a small storage warehouse, it only cost 3 logs and 0 science (set it to empty to prevent blinking icon)
Such a fun video, full of chaos!
The suspense is real!
Fyi you were struggling to build things because you have ooh so many Tree Stumps marked for demolition. Stumps can be simply built upon as well as planted upon as well. So theres no need to have your builders removing things that dont actually block building/planting.
10:36 LUL
- you are trying to push 4 tiles of water through 2 tile gap, this will not end well
- beavers can reach infinitely down (I imagine that they drop the resources down and somehow manage to get them land perfectly to assemble into what you are making) so I usually build dams with an access to first top tile and once they finish it they can stand on it to build the next one (for levees you need extra path since they can't stand on top of them)
- you are getting to the point that 2 pumps can pump fast enough and your farms can't harvest all the food (especially if you reduce the workers)
- I use haulers as a buffer, set one hauling post to 10 workers and lowest priority so when there aren't enough workers everything works and there are just fewer haulers
Great tips thankyou 🙏
AMAZING episode...AMAZING series!! Cannot wait for next week!!
Thankyou so much 😁😁👍
Hahah. Half the fun of this game is figuring out the most efficient scaffold megaproject to go along with your dam megaproject.
The scaffold is often near as big or a bigger project than you'd ever think it would be.
love the this week in type intro
Thank you @PJSHorizon15 :-)
I have a good 25h in this game. I just realised the first time, that the cursor is a piece of wood.
Board with Cities 2 already?
It’s ok to play more than one game.
No. Still 3 Cities videos this week as normal 😉
Indeed, thankyou 🙏
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines Don't worry, I was only teasing.
😊
What mods do you use to select a building to build without having to find it in the menues? Super useful
Tea-mberborners? RCE really influencing the name lol
Cliffhanger!!!
The Teaberbirds! The super heroes of the beavers
🤣
The dam reminds me of the dam from rce. 3:55
Ahhhh! I wanted to see what was going to happen 😂 Great series and you are so funny with it!!! Really enjoyable!! 🤩
Thank you! 😁
If RCE is giving you advices than I expect the colony will be a little devastated
😅
Beavers can't make jam ? I self censored all of the 20 beaver comments I thought of first .
Yay! Biffa plays Timberbrew! :D
Haven't played that game for months and will start again thanks to you.
BTW: I don't think the water spilling throw diagonal corners is a graphics glitch. At least I've always blocked those off as well just to be save
Enjoy! I think it's graphical as it's caused no problems...yet! 👍😁
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines well that's good to know! Saves me a bunch of lumber 😅
I love this it's so funny lol.
A little tip Biffa.
When it comes to growing trees i usually go for 2x the amount of Birch to Oak. I know that the Oak is a good deal but they take so long to grow that you will likely have 1-2 droughts/bad tides before they are ready.
Birch can get you a more steady supply while you wait for the Oak and the Oak will fill your stockpile when its ready.
Beavers will build things in the order the build orders were placed (ie objects you place first will be built first). Beavers can only build 1 tile upwards but can build an infinite number of tiles downwards. When building things like dams, rather than trying to build each layer at a time, it's useful to build 1 side up to the level you need, ensure they have access to the top and then the beavers can builder across from the side with no additional scaffolding needed.
Also farmers should prioritise planting over harvesting (at least if you have 1, all fields should have crops growing in them for maximum efficiency. It takes less time to plant crops than to harvest them.
Love the series! The video production & editing is also really great.
Thankyou and I'll let my editor know 👍😁
Tim [TEA] borners!?!?
10:37 biffa you missed a spot
Nooooooooooooooo
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines supprised you didn't notice it rewatching it back after it got edited by the editors
But then it was too late 😁
@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines at least you have feedback like this on it for the next episode, even your editor is giving you feedback through the episodes
It would work better if you put 2- or 3-tall floodgates across the entry to your valley, instead of blocking the place where the river comes down.
Wait a day after the badwater ends before reopening them, to give the contamination a chance to be flushed out.
The badwater tide has to go SOMEwhere, and that way you can shunt it off the map along the path the the regular badwater takes, through that contaminated lake and off the edge of the map.
You can place some 1-high levees across that little gap, to stop the regular badwater from coming through, and/or perhaps add some floodgates there, that you can open during badtides to drain them.
I'm just playing my first Timberborn game on this same map, just a few cycles ahead of you at the moment.
I've figured out that if I put up levees along both riverbanks, and a 'channel' of 2 rows of 4 levees between the riverbank and the round sunken area, and add in a floodgate at the entry of that channel and the little blocked stream you discovered, then I can raise the level of the river without flooding everything.
Then, AFTER you've protected your low-lieing land, you can put in a single row of levees (dams don't hold back enough, but dams on top of those levees work well) across the river at the downstream waterfall. That way you reserve enough water during droughts that stuff doesn't die, though there's no flow for the waterwheel.
Using the little channel between levees to fill the circular depression with water after the trees are cut will green a lot of that low area, and keep it green during droughts.
I find it very frustrating that my beavers cannot dig a small channel like that, and I had to build it all from levees at a cost of very many logs, so I'm not at all sure this is the best way to go.
As a Dutchie creating channels and dikes/levees to increase reliably arable land seemed the most logical step to me; but since beavers aroung here damage dikes and railway embankments with their digging, them not being able to move some dirt around until they harness the pollution to make dynamite feels very counter-intuitive and frustrating , so maybe I chose an unproductive path.
I look forward to seeing what you'll be making of this 😊
Sounds like you had a lot of fun doing that! 😁
I really hope this series continues!
It is, every Saturday 👍
Where's RCE when we need him
What about Timbrewborn?
Oooh nice!
Instead of making a massive dam you could've just cordoned off the water through your small dam instead
Everyone did see that floodgates wide open right.
Er....
Bad Water looks like cola.
Predictions: 1. Bad water will be diverted by your dam as desired, but then run back into your supply at the bottom. 2. When the bad water ends, and good water returns, it will be contaminated by the bad water stuck behind your dam. (Remember that pool at the bottom that you can't even empty?
Eek!
That dam won't work, you need to fill the interior aswell.
The way it is atm some badwater will get trapped and keep contaminating the water supply later
it dilutes the bad water so currently any fresh water makes the water normal and it's just visual that it's bad water. i'm sure it'll get improved later so it actually uses a percentage rating to determine if it's bad or good water.
1:16 top fusione tra pikachu e biffa con la mod pika pika
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→ 11:38 "The haulers are gonna help bring the stuff over here to keep building" - unfortunately, haulers don't deliver directly to construction places, only builders will do so. If you want your haulers to help with these big building projects, set up a pile for logs (or whatever material is needed) nearby and set it to "obtain". (In this case, make sure it's not flooded.) If you want more than your 4 builders in the district center (and not cheat with temporarily setting up more districts with more district centers), you need to invest some science (and planks) into builders huts.
→ 16:30 "Is there something else we can do with berries?" - For the Folk Tails, it's mostly just basic food, but without any nutrition bonus, so your beavers prefer to eat anything else. It also can be used by the herbalist together with dandelion to provide a medicine against sickness from bad water contamination, but you won't need that many berries for this. For the Iron Teeth, berries are also needed for creating new beavers. The White Pawns (water beavers, from a mod) have a lot of recipes involving berries.
Thankyou for the great tips 😀
What a cliffhanger! Aaaahhhhh!
You can use berries in breeding pots so that more nee Beavers are born
That'll be the Iron Teeth when I unlock them 👍
You really had to stop there 😢
Dam this video is fire 🔥🔥
Well thankyou 👍😁
Have you considered move 1 tile up?
Flood the level where you colony is right now?
so its like a little waste to build buildings there. :D
Ooooh interesting idea 😁👍
NOOOOOOOO... cliffhangered ugh...great ending there mate! (I do mean that)
Thankyou 👍 😁
Look for the ladder mod
I will, but trying to avoid game changing mods for a while, just a couple of QOL ones 👍 But thanks for the suggestion.
haha, awesome! Way to leave it on a cliffhanger!
Hope you enjoyed it! 😁
10:37 RIOT!!
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@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines You know the internet, you've asked for it :D
im sure theres ppl who wouldve drawn a beaver for u biffa, sigh, i still enjoyed the video
I've explained before. My thumbnails are the final image after about 10 or more I went through before the idea came to life. It took a few hours to finally get this how I wanted it. At the start, I didn't even know what I wanted. Thumbnail artists don't just "draw a beaver", they want the full idea from me (which i didn't have at the start) , 2 days notice, and you'll get 1 or 2 pics back with limited tweaks. Then after a video is released i often change the thumbnail again with a totally different idea.... Using an artist isn't practical for my process at all, it just doesn't work for me at all. I've tried before, believe me.
So it's either a thumb artist that can work the way I need, or pics from the game (really not that enticing) or this. Or I draw it and I can't draw.
There's much more involved that just asking someone to just "draw a beaver".
Hope that makes sense. Just trying to help people understand the process involved and not just give a quick take and think that's the answer.
All the best😁👍
Do a playthrough with RCE♥
Hate cliffhangers
shouldn't have removed dams
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Thanks for another great series.
Glad you enjoy it!
GGed with Badwater season
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Saw "Over engineering a badwater mega dam" video and had to reajust for a few seconds because I was so certain I was clicking a RCE video, but suddenly Biffa started talking.
It's a me! A Biffa 😅👍
OMG I CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT SATURDAY!
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@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines WILL THE BEAVERS SURVIVE?! OR WILL THE COLONY SUFFER A TERRIBLE FATE?!
popped their clogs? never heard that as a euphemism for death... o.0
It's quite...popular 😅
A cliffhanger!
Indeed! 😁
Cliffhanger! I dont imagine this will end well.
Have faith! 😅