lol for a while when I was just getting into MMA I would mistake them too until I saw them together on the stage. Was confused af, but now its just funny looking back
Mike Jackson intentionally made a mockery of the fight, and I understand that it was bad for the paying audience. But Jackson demonstrated that CM Punk was absolutely not fit to be in there. Jackson exposed Dana White and Punk's trainers. They made a mockery of the sport by allowing Punk to be in there, and Jackson proved it. No wonder White was pissed.
You're wrong. Because CM Punk has always been a great fighter and yet assholes like Joe Rogan and you are fucking biased. Because all Mike Jackson was doing is backing up the whole time because he can't fight from the striking game standing up.
@@leomdk939 Maybe. But even good fighters stand a chance of getting rocked right out of the gate. How many good fighters get taken down and tickled for minutes on end?
Wrestling can take a difficult toll on your body, constantly being slammed on your back and near your neck. Botching moves are extremely painful, and a single mistake in the ring could be fatal. Also punk hasn't had hardly no time to train for an actual UFC environment. Where most have trained all their lives and decided they were going to be a fighter from an early age Cm punk has only had about a year of training under his belt
@@cardsfighter2 2 years of training when your 38 isn't even close to enough time for the UFC. Your seriously discrediting the UFC if you think it takes just 2 years to get in and be efficient.
@@ishmael802 you're absolutely right. Dana should never have done it in the first place. I get it that it puts eyes and money on his product, but it makes the UFC look so unprofessional.
@Felipe Gomes McGregor has experience in boxing and to the average person, even above average, would be no easy opponent so I'd count it on Mayweather's record.
@LibsDrawingMuseum I confused logan and jake, logan was the more athletic out of the two. But potential is potential, jake knocked out nate robinson, someone who was actually a pro in the nba and with natural athletic talent before he started boxing.
thats how people make business man... try to look back on how much cash they get off 203. it was so huge and even real pro wrestlers tune in at bars to see his ass got knocked the f out. cant deny the market strategies of dana!
@@bullhead4963 It was a great business move on Dana's part, but it was shitty of him to say that Jackson was the one that make a joke out of the sport when he was the one that signed a joke publicity fighter like Punk. If you book a shitty fight for the publicity, dont be shocked when the fight turns out shitty. Punk had no business in the octagon and Jackson humiliated him for it. I din't see anything wrong with that. Punk and Dana got what they deserved.
I agree 100% -- Dana is a POS & both Joe & Dana need ot get off the Andro-Gel before they get 4th stage Prostate Cancer b/c that's the side effects --- Dana puts a guy in the Cage who can NOT fight in a PPV slot & Jackson of course Jackson is gonna think Dana Douche Bag wants him to carry this tomato can for awhile
"Don't make a joke of the sport"... THEY SIGNED THIS MAN. THEY MADE A JOKE OF THE SPORT, Mike Jackson should have finished him but they shouldn't have signed Punk at all.
@@SwayNoir wwe is so big, it was always worth a shot to make a quick buck outta them and tbf it worked for his debut, he supposedly doubled ufc's ppv rate for ufc 203, if he'd actually been decent it would have been praised as a bold move
@@willsmith8927 tbf to him there's no shame in knowing that you've reached a point in a career and you know you cant keep going, you likely arent going to be the number 1, so its time to pivot and start anew while you've got the time and energy to really make a go of it
I strongly believe that that is why he chose to train with Duke Roufus. He wanted to make his gimmick legit, so he went with a kickboxing specialist. Punk strikes me as the kind of guy who's decisions are driven by ego. When he was "feuding" with Brock Lesnar in WWE, Lesnar made fun of him for wearing hand wraps and basically being a weekend warrior. Even though it was scripted, I think it would legitimately hurt Punk's pride to hear that. And I think that partly influenced his decision to go into MMA
@@MrCyberboobs not to mention he got his ass kicked alot back stage for start legit beef with other wrestlers whove actually been in real life fights before not just pro wrestling fights
Doesn't really matter how good of a fighter punk is , he's suffer a lot of Injuries in WWE, each injury is a weak point that other fighters can exploit, he could be extremely good at Muy Tai and it would not matter because of the injuries. At least he has heart I give him that.
@@NookTommy well 71 folks agree with me & the fact that Punk even tried & got his ass kicked AND got paid a hella LOT MORE then his opponents that makes him a winner too.
@@lonestarr1707 im not saying he's a loser either but that dont mean he is a winner. he got what he deserved. self entitled juvenile bitch who thinks highly of himself got his ass handed to him. i would have applauded his efforts had he been a more humble dude.
I don't know that I'd be quite that hard on Punk. Clearly, his UFC run probably should never have been attempted, but he was a guy pushing 40, with a significant history of injuries and miles on his body basically starting from scratch attempting to fight on a pro level. You'd have to be an exceptional talent not to fail under those circumstances, and if anyone's at fault it's UFC for basically allow him to do a fantasy camp. I can't fault Punk for seizing the opportunity to try something he had an interest in when it fell into his lap. The guy's a happily retired multi-millionaire who's had the opportunity to chase down a couple dreams in his time. We should all be so lucky.
Isn't Punk nearly 40? If he were in his 20's, then he would be able to get away with a lack of polish or skill because he would be able to take more hits and he would have quicker reactions. At his age, he would have to be a savant at the sport to compete.
Probably thought his "straight edge" life style would give him the edge to catch up with his lack of athletic skill. (straight egde life style to him just means he doesn't drink or do drugs)
It’s not his age that’s the problem, it’s that he has ZERO athletic talent and obviously has never been in a actual fight in his life. Even with his career in WWE, he really wasn’t a great athlete. As Joe Rogen said here, you can take a guy who has done track or something and they would do better than Punk, because they’re a REAL athlete, even if the guy you pulled was the same age as Punk. I give him credit that he put on some amazing matches, but that wasn’t because of his athleticism, it was because he and whoever he was working with (best example probably being John Cena) knew how to work the crowd and play to their strengths and hide their weaknesses. It’s quite frankly exactly what Hulk Hogan did to make his matches so entertaining (look at his match with Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania 3 for example, by no means a “mat classic,” but because Hogan knew how to make Andre look good even though he was actually suffering and knew how to sell his ass off, that match was 100x than it probably should have been). The difference is though that people at least know that’s how Hogan worked, most people will still tell you Hogan was actually a shitty in ring wrestler. Where as people actually seem to think that Punk was a “legit” wrestler, even putting him in a category of other wrestlers who were legit athletes in their lives like Shawn Michaels. He wasn’t, he was NEVER much of a athlete, hell he started out as a typical backyard wrestling kid, not though sports like football or actual wrestling.
I remember the announcers on wwe would talk about CM punks bjj background his Muay Thai background and when he went into the UFC and displayed absolutely nothing of it 😂
He was seven when he did that then was 39 during his UFC fights. He is decades removed from knowing how to fight there are pro wrestlers that can fight Brock Lesnar,Minoru Suzuki, Shibata,Jack Swagger,Jack Galahar, Kurt Angle, Aliester Black,El berto del Rio, bobby Lashely, Dan Seven, Ken Shamrock, William Regal, Antonio Inoki, Shinsuke Nakamura, Shayna Baszler, and even Butter Bean a man with the name Butter Bean who was an actual pro wrestler could kill CM Punk...... CM Punk ain't one of them. Im a fan of CM punks work in ROH and WWE but he should have been training for two years before he ever thought about fighting. Plus even in the WWE he experienced legit pain he even shat himself on an episode of smackdown he does not have a threshold for pain not can he fight. But don't let him as a poor representative for pro wrestling make you hate the sport instead think of the names of Ken Shamrock,Dan Seven and Minoru Suzuki.
On Punk's WWE DVD, even one of his trainers calls the guy a non-athlete with "lead in his ass". He could structure a compelling 30-minute in-ring story, and sell it on the mic, but an athlete he was not.
CM punk should have this amateur MMA fight before going to UFC to see if he can do it. Batista did that once, but turned pretty bad so he didnt proceed to MMA anymore.
Kacen Nix He won, but he wasn't consistent in the fight, pretty sure he didn't like his performance and stop, CM Punk should have done the same, I like him but he really sucked at UFC
@@crowns9966 that's the right way to do it. It didn't recieve mucb coverage when it happened so Batista was able to move on without much scrutiny and it did no damage to his image as a wrestler, unlike Punk.
Batista may not have a sport backround but he was a night club bouncer and a lifeguard which means he really knows how to fight and handle things right a really a tough guy in real also he has a strong physiche thanks to his bodybuilding fitness backround im sure he would atleast went 5-0 if he had fought the same level of opponent as vince lucero.
Respect for trying, but Joe made a good comparison a few weeks ago. You don't let an inexperienced climber go up the last several hundred feet of Everest by himself without oxygen. The same rule applies here. It's just stupid and dangerous. Jackson showed Punk mercy, tbh. He could've knocked Punk into the next dimension in Round 2 on many occasions. Some people say he was showboating. I just think Jackson (another inexperienced fighter) didn't want to permanently damage Punk. Imagine if Punk went against a real UFC fighter. HOLY SHIT.
WarlordRising Jackson didn't show mercy he played around too much if he would of tkod him finished him rather than gone all 3 rounds is better bc he's not getting damaged all 3 rounds so I don't agree with your statement. Jackson is a fool and that's why Dana fired him he acted cocky instead of finishing the fight everyone knows punk can't fight so why drag the fight? Complete opposite of what you're saying.
To be fair Pascal, even Gall was brought in to the UFC a bit early just for the purpose of fighting Punk. He probably could have done with getting some more experience in lesser promotions before signing with the UFC. Most new fighters in the UFC have at the very least 5 pro fights but it's normally more like 10+. Mickey had 1 before he fought Mike Jackson and Punk, which don't even really count. The guy is basically 2-1. He has a load of potential but he needs experience.
Yeah but see thats just it no one is even focusing on the fact that dana himself before even signing him hated the fact of cm punk wanting to join he never wanted to sign him so heres the real quiestion why the hell would dana do something he dosent want to do. Oh sure let me sign cm punk to ufc i dont want to at all what so ever but ill do it anyway great idea dana
Chris Smith dana sighned brock he was a wwe star yes i know he had a backround when punk didnt but still if danas wrong for taking the gamble on punk he wrong for taking the gamble on brock
I was hoping someone would mention this. How can Dana White make a comment saying the winning fighter will never fight in the UFC again. Dana is the one who put a killer in the ring with an unskilled fighter. The guy who one showed compassion for another person and could very well have thought that he would be in trouble if the fight went too short. Maybe he was thinking the whole time that clearly he's supposed to put on a show. Why would this fight be in a PPV for a 10 sec KO
@@gamesmovienation3516 because of projected revenue. Plus if Dana does hate him he can book him with guys that will fuck him up. All the while he rakes in the cash. That's just good business sense.
@A Lakonophile to be fair, that's the entire point of WWE. If you don't have the ability to suspend disbelief, it's best to stay away from fiction in general.
@A Lakonophile honestly, if they had booked him right I might have disagreed. But his WWE title reign involved him not getting into Mania's main event despite being champion and towards the end it just became the shield carrying him before he jobbed twice to a part timer. CM Punk already have was kind of unbelievable as a top guy but take money in the bank 2011 for instance. They came so close to making him a legitimate guy and they squandered it. He doesn't have the raw talent or look to do it without good booking like say Cena.
Remember is all about the money at the end, if it was entertainment they would have never allowed a guy with no experience like Punk go there, I like his pro wrestling career but damn did he sucked in UFC
Their point about CM Punk was not just that he is too inexperienced or too amateur for the UFC. Their point is that his development over these last few years as a competitive martial artist has been incredibly unimpressive. Not only did he come into MMA with no experience, he has been very slow to progress. Probably due to his age and coddled training. Many people can train diligently for 4 years and look very good, Punk is not one of those people. This is not about UFC level vs amateur level, Mike Jackson is an amateur and he looked like Anderson Silva out there. This is not his thing, he would have never been a great fighter. Even low level mixed martial arts promotions would make him look bad. This isn't about the UFC being too high level, this is about CM being bad at MMA after so much high level training. Dude needs to stop.
Alchemistic Academician and no mike jackson looked like another amatuer who needs to go back to his day job as well. the only comparison id make to anderson about him is that they both are full of them selves and are fucking idiots.
Alchemistic Academician cut that four years in half, he had an undiagnosed herniated disc which required last minute surgery right before the Gall fight. That would obviously hamper development.
No. He was trained to be a fighter, he trained for 4 years for it. That's exactly the problem. He was trained for by high level trainers and he looked like possibly one of the worst fighters to ever step into an octagon.
@@lawrencesaavedra758 yep and people are blind sheeps there's a reason why they are creators of everything. Also cell phones and laptops people used for commenting.
@@alejandrocisneros7442 people are just like that. i would take phil brooks than connor mcgregor anyday. phil isn't an asshole when on interviews. he talks and tells stories just like a regular person and you won't see a hint of smugness when he is in public.
I feel Joe is unfairly being dissed because of him praising Ronda's striking back then. I'm not as much as an avid watcher of UFC anymore unlike before, but back then, I remember that when the women's division was just starting out and Ronda was being hyped as a dominant champion, a lot of folks thought she was a complete fighter and she did seem like it. Her striking was not seen as impressive but people thought that it was decent enough to compete in high level mma. After all, she did get wins with KO punches too, and she deceptively looked decent with her stand-up earlier in her career because of her opponents. So Joe praising Ronda's striking at that time doesn't really sound that absurd, unlike it is now with hindsight. But then her loss to Holm came which really exposed how crappy Ronda's striking is. People then realized that Ronda's striking back then just looked decent because she never fought against an excellent striker before until her loss to Holm.
if i decide, with zero experience, to become a stuntman and throw my ass off a building for a scene, mess myself up, disrespect the industry for being so amateur yet getting such a prominent spot in a movie, and somehow be so bad that I get another stuntman whodoes his job just fine fired in the process, its all good cause people should respect the fact I tried?
thats the reasonn why this mike dude shoulda gone ahead and ended it clean and quick, watchin him spar the whole fight milking it was embarassing and he denies showboating tho lol. like cmon dude your fighting an old cm punk. Hope dana is serious ab booting his ass.
Never seen JDF fight but he probably wouldn't have owned Punk as bad as Mickey Gall did. Shame too b/c The Green Ranger def would've sold more tix than Gall. Wasted money there.
17seventySIX Thank you. That's what I've been saying. It looks like the guy sucks, and his team is telling him "good job". Stop with that, "Oh, he has the best team bla bla", because I don't think they did a good job.
17seventySIX nooooo, its the fact that UFC paid him tons of cash and in turn Punk is paying his coaches a ton. Soooo, id take that gig if Punk came to me.
Yah confidence is so overrated. The great ones go in scared shitless cause their trainers have beat them down and told them how good they really are. Billy you're probably gonna lose cause you're shit, but give him he'll kid . GTFO
CM Punk tried to do what Brock Lesnar did. Thing is Brock Lesnar is a god damn freak of natural. Punk, is not. I don't even watch UFC, and Punks fights have been so bad that even I had to check out his first loss. The guy should give it up. He's no Brock Lesnar, he's no Bobby Lashley, CM Punk just can't handle MMA.
Justin Lynch lol you’re right at first... but Brock is shit I mean don’t get me wrong he can probably beat me but he can’t compete in the UFC just watch him and Overeem, rua, mir these guys all beat the shit out of him. And I’m not talking about Brock steroids lesnar. He just got disrespected when he didn’t
There IS a history or PROF wrestling and MMA switching people since the beginning - Ken Shamrock, Tank Abbot, ext ext, but they mostly come from MMA to WRESTLING not in this case, the other way around
+Jaurae Holman brock could "probably" beat you up? nah he can beat you up 100 of 100 times. brock really only got beat up by cain and overeem, he beat the shit out of mir and defeated shane carwin to name a few...
no im not jordan first off he beat mir when he was off peds when he wasn’t who won? Also do you even know me Ik myself I probably couldn’t beat Brock lesnar but by the way you are stroking him I bet I could beat the shit out of you. Brock is athletic, he is big and strong but he isn’t a good fighter when he meets good fighters he gets rocked he only beat two old men and a newbie talent and guess what he didn’t do it off his own gains. Good to know you don’t know your fav fighter can’t fight without peds
Really difficult to excel in more than one field, especially when the fields aren't related. I imagine Rogan is right about competitive sports like football and track being much more useful in UFC preparation than a performing sport like wrestling. Punk wasn't able to make the competitive fighting transition near as well as Lashley or Lesnar. But then again, Lesnar didn't have that much success with football, although I hear that was due to injury. If he did he would have excelled in three things and that's super difficult. Apparently wrestler Kazuchika Okada in New Japan has a track and field background that has served him VERY well in wrestling. His vertical leap on those dropkicks is amazing. Best in the business. Do the things wrestlers do count as athletic even though there's no real competition? I would say yes, but Rogan appears to say no. Falling off a ladder without hurting yourself too bad seems athletic to me, and I know CM Punk did that.
Well I mean both Lashley and Lesnar were legit athletes back in college. Lesnar obv was a great wrestler and on practice squad in the NFL. Lashley was also a wrestler and in the army at one point, so that's some combat experience I'm guessing. CM Punk is nowehere near either of them in terms of natural athletic ability. But yeah I agree, wrestlers are essentially stuntmen. Even something as simple as balancing on the top ropes requires you to be "athletic" to me
Joe is talking about combat athleticism. Acrobatics don't translate to real fighting. Sure it's fine in fake wrestling but without a collegiate level background in wrestling you're not a athlete when it comes to mma. You can teach a gymnast or ballet dancer to do fake wrestling but they aren't anywhere near a athletic level when it comes to real wrestling or mma.
Punk is a performer. One of the greatest performers in his field. But it's a whole different ball game. Like asking someone who acts as a special forces member, to go out and be a special forces member with only 1 year of training. No chance. If punk had 5 years of consistent pro training under his belt, sure maybe. But dana basically signed a big name amateur fighter. Arguably not even amateur, just a hobbyist/enthusiast. They would have done better by having Punk as a promoter, interviewer, and ringside.
yep punk cant handle big guys just Hornswoggle lol btw i can beat him too hes a pure idiot and thinking hes best in the world.......wow what a joke lmao
Isabelle Groleau Kevin James was actual a wrestler in High School with Mick Foley. Foley said Kevin James was better than him. Punk would probably lose to him lol.
What pisses me off is no one denounces Dana directly. Dana decided to throw Punk right into big spotlight fights ahead of actual deserving fighters. It’s Dana who only cares about money and attention. Dana has so many parallels to Vince McMahon it’s ridiculous. They both are greedy, egomaniacal, and selfish. They both will screw over deserving and talented fighters/wrestlers on an emotional whim. And they both have lost the plot to what matters in their product. Oh, and neither will ever step down until they are dead regardless of how much they are harming their product.
Ironically, Punk's utter failure in UFC just makes me realize how damn good he is in wrestling, that despite having zero athletic ability he managed to get millions of people to buy into him, meanwhile legit guys like Shelton Benjamin or Jake Hager who would wrestle circles around him just never could break through to that next level.
Shelton Benjamin and Jake Hager would have been in the UFC if UFC popped off 10 years before it actually did. Kurt Angle would be a UFC legend if he started 10 years later than he did. Just unfortunate UFC lost a lot of great wrestlers to WWE because of timing.
Punk should have taken 3-5 regional fights against guys with similar experience before going to UFC. Even a 2-1 record would've made his stint more exciting.
I mean basketball players can't fight for shit either but I'd still take you winning over cm punk anyday. He trained for 2 years and yet still looked like it was his first week training
@@Nile15rush_fj I created a Joe Rogan drinking game were whenever he says "Whoa" "that's interesting" "Jamie" or "dmt" I take a drink. I'm usually loaded before noon. This quarantine thing sucks.
Well when Joe said that Rhonda did look amazing and was then checked. It's not like she's untalented. Cm punk never won and was defeated terribly twice. He has Merritt to say this. People can be wrong about things. We can't see into the future.
His physique shows that he's not a natural athlete. People like that have to train harder than the best in the world to somewhat compete. At least he tried.
@@balancer182 a "pipe bomb" that was scripted, agreed upon and coordinated with management before airing live, yet morons still think its a legit shoot.
You can't just jump into MMA and expect to beat these guys that have been training at it for years, unless you have something extraordinary like Lesnar's size and amateur wrestling background, and even then, he got caught in a heel hook by Frank Mir right out of the gate and had to really go back and get enough training to have some basic defense. Punk is a really good example of what would happen to most pro wrestlers, and it's not a knock on them, but it's pretty arrogant to think you can walk into another profession and do it as well as the guys who have devoted years to it.
I can't say I I know anything about mma or ufc but punk always seemed like a very overconfident guy to me, maybe he let his hype from the WWE go to his head, I don't know but wwe and ufc isn't something you can compare with each other. I have no idea how true this is but most punk fans back in the day, at least some that I spoke with talked about how the guy had a solid mma background and how he did brazilian ju jitsu but if that's the case how come he's failing so miserably in the UFC? I just don't get it.
I think one other problem is that professional wrestling is too much away from mma nowadays. When the guys wanted to protect kayfabe, they must be real tough guys to beat anyone thats want to pick a fight against them. Like all the 90s shoot style uwfi guys or the guys from new japan in the 70s 80s 90s like antonio inoki, minoru suzuki etc. dont forget all the real hooker like karl gotch or lou thesz. That would be the only guys who had a chance when they would do mma training but nowaydays when everything ia wrestling is so phoney and only had spots after spots you no longer need do be a legit catch as catch can wrestler or shooter.
Rogan is usually pretty objective when it comes to MMA, but he had this weird obsession with Ronda that made him believe she was WAY better than she actually was. Her grappling is definitely on point, but that's not enough to beat 99% of men her size ESPECIALLY not men who are also professional fighters.
Even any random man on the street would easily beat her just by weight and strength advantage. If Rondas true striking skills were that awful against other females, imagine what a fully grown man would had done to her.
nope. any professional male fighter her size? yes. but if you were to take some random dude off the street that matched her size she'd demolish them, you dudes ain't being smart
STEVEN rana Batista did compete for MMA but the dude is just too slow and his opponent wasn’t even on that caliber of being known as a decent fighter either
Lesnar first went to football and was super competitive in the first place so something that physical makes sense for him. Lashley was a pure walking wall of muscle, like Lesnar before him, who was competitive enough to want to fight full contact. Hager was the person who was willing to go for the biggest target in the room. Batista tried it, found out he was too slow for most fights and wisely left to pursue what he was essentially doing under McMahon, that is acting. What's the difference between those men and Punk? They were willing (eager even) to be as physically demanding as they could against the toughest opponent they could find, especially when the serialized soap opera they performed on insisted they follow the script they didn't want to follow. Punk doesn't have that same drive, he wants to be an entertainer. That's admirable, but the other guy usually isn't concerned with putting on a show; he's concerned with putting you out.
I'm a CM Punk fan and I believe everything he's saying I loved CM Punk's work in WWE but once he left and went to UFC it was all down hill with CM Punk.
He gave it a shot, and I respect him a lot for that. But yeah, he's never going to be anywhere close to a contender in any legitimate fighting promotion.
I think his problem was that in the WWE they train to make sure they don't hurt each other too much. Going from that to a world where people have been training to hurt people would be a difficult transition for anyone
Just because Brock and that have won MMA matches doesn't mean it's not hard. I'm just saying it must not be that easy making that transition between the two
Been around boxers and the successful ones have a fire inside of them, you can see it im their eyes, Punk never had that, even if he had trained when young, he still would not have been a successful fighter in my opinion
When Joe start with " he's a nice guy" you know whats coming.
Lol no different than when a girl says it.
He’s not even a nice guy
J D1 stfu
@@Batman-gw6th pmsl
J D1 XD
Joe "don't believe in yourself" Rogan
Remember when he told Brendan Schaub that he sucked to his face?
LOL
Gerrold Lloyd yeah I remember it every waking moment of my life
in the context of relying on believing in yourself to win a mma fight, yeah dont do that
Sam Aviles self believe with out reason is delusion and punk was fucking delusional.
After watching MMA today I’ve learnt that Dana white and joe rogan are 2 different people!. Mind blown!.
lol for a while when I was just getting into MMA I would mistake them too until I saw them together on the stage. Was confused af, but now its just funny looking back
lmfao i used to confuse them alot years ago
Yea their bald head and short height
Exactly!!
Same me!!
@@spidergoblin. Dana isn't really short though. 5'11 according to wiki. That's taller than the average american.
Imagine you're so bad that your opponent gets fired for not finishing you
Well I don't make millions even if I suck,so I will not mock him over social media
@@Sir_Killsalot punk made millions for sucking
@@Sir_Killsalot Lol, how cute. Go & marry him then, you mark 🥴
@@musadays8083 I am into women, if you don't believe, you can ask your mom.😃
@@Sir_Killsalot Lol, "my mom?" That's weak. Then again i'm pretty sure my mom doesn't dig soyboys like yourself so... 🥴
When you skip the Tutorials then you head straight to online
@@Dalen120 the fuck u on about😂
@@Dalen120 is not
@@Dalen120 multiple people can have the same thought bro.
More like playing the campaign on story mode and then playing ranked
@@Dalen120 absolutely.
The only guy who could’ve went from the WWE to MMA besides Lesnar and succeeded was kurt angle
LASHELY!
Shanmukh Sagi I always thought Kurt was an Olympic wrestler
Shanmukh Sagi just googled he medaled in freestyle wrestling
Shelton benjamin
Bobby lashley has a 15-2-0 record in mma
Mike Jackson intentionally made a mockery of the fight, and I understand that it was bad for the paying audience. But Jackson demonstrated that CM Punk was absolutely not fit to be in there. Jackson exposed Dana White and Punk's trainers. They made a mockery of the sport by allowing Punk to be in there, and Jackson proved it. No wonder White was pissed.
You're wrong. Because CM Punk has always been a great fighter and yet assholes like Joe Rogan and you are fucking biased. Because all Mike Jackson was doing is backing up the whole time because he can't fight from the striking game standing up.
@@thisismybrutality5061 Found the CM Punk mark.
Yeah, but he also could have made that point by just finishing Punk as quickly as possible.
@@leomdk939 Maybe. But even good fighters stand a chance of getting rocked right out of the gate. How many good fighters get taken down and tickled for minutes on end?
@@thisismybrutality5061 you must be smoking crack
You never want people to start talking about you with "he's a nice guy".
I think Punk is just 15 years late to start fighting especially in the UFC
Agreed
Wrestling can take a difficult toll on your body, constantly being slammed on your back and near your neck. Botching moves are extremely painful, and a single mistake in the ring could be fatal. Also punk hasn't had hardly no time to train for an actual UFC environment. Where most have trained all their lives and decided they were going to be a fighter from an early age Cm punk has only had about a year of training under his belt
@@jamesbudd3096 he had enough time and the right trainers to look competent. He just ain't got it.
@@cardsfighter2 2 years of training when your 38 isn't even close to enough time for the UFC. Your seriously discrediting the UFC if you think it takes just 2 years to get in and be efficient.
@@jamesbudd3096 yes please take me to the part of my fucking comment where I mentioned the word efficient.
CM Punk ain't made for UFC just like Ronda Rousey ain't made for WWE.
Bro for reals
@@daviboy7765 They're too odd where their to, they don't fit lol.
@@daviboy7765 you're supid, I didn't say they weren't fit I said they don't fit. Like they don't fit in where they're at 🙄
They should trade places.
Celine Martin LMAO you a hater, Ronda is doing better than most people expected her to do in WWE.
"Don't make a mockery of the sport"
You do realize that Dana White signed CM Punk, right?
He did mention that. But Mike Jackson should have murdered CM Punk. Now CM thinks he had a chance
@@ishmael802 you're absolutely right. Dana should never have done it in the first place. I get it that it puts eyes and money on his product, but it makes the UFC look so unprofessional.
@Felipe Gomes McGregor has experience in boxing and to the average person, even above average, would be no easy opponent so I'd count it on Mayweather's record.
Exactly.
He did but not for people to take it easy on him. You wanted to be there? Good luck.
Joe Rogan: “CM Punk has no chance. This is what I do, I analyse fighters.”
Also Joe Rogan: “Jake Paul could beat Professional Boxers.”
LMAO...Rogan is unreal
Well he ain't lying 🤷
Joe Rogan is a fucking idiot really, I actually come to watch his guests, not him ..
Joe also said Ronda Rousey could've beat 50% of the men in the bantamweight division lol
@LibsDrawingMuseum I confused logan and jake, logan was the more athletic out of the two. But potential is potential, jake knocked out nate robinson, someone who was actually a pro in the nba and with natural athletic talent before he started boxing.
i love how they defend Dana for being upset how that fighter toyed with CM in the ring, but Dana was the guy that let CM into the ufc.
thats how people make business man... try to look back on how much cash they get off 203. it was so huge and even real pro wrestlers tune in at bars to see his ass got knocked the f out. cant deny the market strategies of dana!
@@bullhead4963 It was a great business move on Dana's part, but it was shitty of him to say that Jackson was the one that make a joke out of the sport when he was the one that signed a joke publicity fighter like Punk. If you book a shitty fight for the publicity, dont be shocked when the fight turns out shitty. Punk had no business in the octagon and Jackson humiliated him for it. I din't see anything wrong with that. Punk and Dana got what they deserved.
fair, although Sakuraba came from professional wrestling. Sometimes you gotta give people a chance, just didnt work out this time
I agree 100% -- Dana is a POS & both Joe & Dana need ot get off the Andro-Gel before they get 4th stage Prostate Cancer b/c that's the side effects --- Dana puts a guy in the Cage who can NOT fight in a PPV slot & Jackson of course Jackson is gonna think Dana Douche Bag wants him to carry this tomato can for awhile
@@OmegaVestoLord cm punk trained for less than 2 years if I remember correctly
I just want to know the end of the equation on Joe's shirt.
5:46
🙂
Frowny face + archery= happy face simple math
= DMT
It's the answer to life
“Don’t believe in yourself” - Joe Rogan 😂
A 39 year old after 15 years of wrestling wear and tear on the body to then go to ufc it was wrong from the beginning.
What about Brock lesnar
@@saurabhyadav9905 and severns, and putter, and ...basically anyone that's done it.
@@saurabhyadav9905 Brock Lesnar is just built differently.
What about funaki ,suzuki, sakurabai, shemrock, alberto del rio, fujita, josh barrett ?
@@saurabhyadav9905 Lesnar is a beast, and he only did a few years in WWE before UFC.
"Don't make a joke of the sport"... THEY SIGNED THIS MAN. THEY MADE A JOKE OF THE SPORT, Mike Jackson should have finished him but they shouldn't have signed Punk at all.
That's what he was talking about
Yeah but tbf the last wrestler signed by the ufc from wwe ended up heavyweight champ, it was worth a shot to make some quick money from the wwe fans
@@busta960 last wrestler they signed from WWE actually had a legit wrestling background and was a decorated athlete. CM Punk was and had nothing.
@@SwayNoir wwe is so big, it was always worth a shot to make a quick buck outta them and tbf it worked for his debut, he supposedly doubled ufc's ppv rate for ufc 203, if he'd actually been decent it would have been praised as a bold move
Plus Randy Couture spanked Tito Ortiz ass when they fought but Randy didn't get kicked out of the UFC
LESNAR LIVED ON A FCKIN FARM LIFTING TRACTOR TIRES. CM Punk lifts up AJ Lee
We all lifted up Aj Lee lol
Kill Will Lesnar is an animal! Same with Goldberg. Especially in their prime.
16 year old Brock probably destroys Punk lol
I can lift aj only with my finger lol
@@user-cx9gq2ud6t 10 year old
“Don’t believe in yourself” - Joe Rogan
he is right
that way belive in
Yeah I remember that he tolled Schaub that he sucked
@@willsmith8927 he wasn't wrong
@@theoneandjabroni3002 yeah i like him but in some point he’s a bum
@@willsmith8927 tbf to him there's no shame in knowing that you've reached a point in a career and you know you cant keep going, you likely arent going to be the number 1, so its time to pivot and start anew while you've got the time and energy to really make a go of it
He looks like Edge. Watching him I only remembered Edge's WWE intro lol
CM Punk is a tool, but you're wearing a monster energy hat backwards. Soooo.
man wear logo hat me angry 😡
Monster
Monster probably paying the dude. I'd wear a tampon hat if they paid me.
merces47letifer what does his hat have to do with it moron?
You'd rather he wore it forwards or not wear it at all? You understand he's getting paid to wear it right? That's how sponsorship works...
This is clearly setting up for the ultimate wrestling match between Punk and Rogan.
😂
Imagine being so bad that not only did you get fired, but you got your opponent fired for not finishing you.
CM Punk's fighting ability matches Joe's comedic ability.
He is untalented lol
not really Joe is funny
Edge looks younger
Edit: back a year later and he still looks like Edge
Toxic Gaming i think that's Curt Hawkins bro...
LOOOOL
510 braceface I think its Edge Hawkins
holy shit I thought the exact same thing lol
YOOOO!
Lol and punk was considered to have a "Muy Thai" background in WWE.
I strongly believe that that is why he chose to train with Duke Roufus. He wanted to make his gimmick legit, so he went with a kickboxing specialist.
Punk strikes me as the kind of guy who's decisions are driven by ego. When he was "feuding" with Brock Lesnar in WWE, Lesnar made fun of him for wearing hand wraps and basically being a weekend warrior. Even though it was scripted, I think it would legitimately hurt Punk's pride to hear that. And I think that partly influenced his decision to go into MMA
@@MrCyberboobs not to mention he got his ass kicked alot back stage for start legit beef with other wrestlers whove actually been in real life fights before not just pro wrestling fights
He had that persona when he first got to Wwe and couldn't throw a kick to save his life
Doesn't really matter how good of a fighter punk is , he's suffer a lot of Injuries in WWE, each injury is a weak point that other fighters can exploit, he could be extremely good at Muy Tai and it would not matter because of the injuries. At least he has heart I give him that.
SuperJohn12354 muy tai? Bro, cmon, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about and you sound super uneducated.
CM Punk bangs AJ Lee so he's a winner 🏆
She's ugly as hell
She prolly pegs him
banging AJ Lee doesnt make you a winner. not every man wanna hit that
@@NookTommy well 71 folks agree with me & the fact that Punk even tried & got his ass kicked AND got paid a hella LOT MORE then his opponents that makes him a winner too.
@@lonestarr1707 im not saying he's a loser either but that dont mean he is a winner. he got what he deserved. self entitled juvenile bitch who thinks highly of himself got his ass handed to him. i would have applauded his efforts had he been a more humble dude.
I don't know that I'd be quite that hard on Punk. Clearly, his UFC run probably should never have been attempted, but he was a guy pushing 40, with a significant history of injuries and miles on his body basically starting from scratch attempting to fight on a pro level. You'd have to be an exceptional talent not to fail under those circumstances, and if anyone's at fault it's UFC for basically allow him to do a fantasy camp. I can't fault Punk for seizing the opportunity to try something he had an interest in when it fell into his lap. The guy's a happily retired multi-millionaire who's had the opportunity to chase down a couple dreams in his time. We should all be so lucky.
Isn't Punk nearly 40? If he were in his 20's, then he would be able to get away with a lack of polish or skill because he would be able to take more hits and he would have quicker reactions. At his age, he would have to be a savant at the sport to compete.
Probably thought his "straight edge" life style would give him the edge to catch up with his lack of athletic skill. (straight egde life style to him just means he doesn't drink or do drugs)
Thersites Historian he just sucks as an athlete
Age doesn't determine how a person fights. 50 year olds are still killing it trust I'm in this world and 39 is nothing
It’s not his age that’s the problem, it’s that he has ZERO athletic talent and obviously has never been in a actual fight in his life. Even with his career in WWE, he really wasn’t a great athlete. As Joe Rogen said here, you can take a guy who has done track or something and they would do better than Punk, because they’re a REAL athlete, even if the guy you pulled was the same age as Punk. I give him credit that he put on some amazing matches, but that wasn’t because of his athleticism, it was because he and whoever he was working with (best example probably being John Cena) knew how to work the crowd and play to their strengths and hide their weaknesses. It’s quite frankly exactly what Hulk Hogan did to make his matches so entertaining (look at his match with Andre the Giant at Wrestlemania 3 for example, by no means a “mat classic,” but because Hogan knew how to make Andre look good even though he was actually suffering and knew how to sell his ass off, that match was 100x than it probably should have been). The difference is though that people at least know that’s how Hogan worked, most people will still tell you Hogan was actually a shitty in ring wrestler. Where as people actually seem to think that Punk was a “legit” wrestler, even putting him in a category of other wrestlers who were legit athletes in their lives like Shawn Michaels. He wasn’t, he was NEVER much of a athlete, hell he started out as a typical backyard wrestling kid, not though sports like football or actual wrestling.
@@CodyTwoHottie he's done alcohol with WWE hall of famers
“He tickled him .. HE TICKLED HIM DURING THE FIGHT”
😂 😆 😆
i got hard
That's pretty gay. Next he'll be slipping his hand up the leg hole of the other guys trunks
Its the Wwe in him
Lmfao. This fucking thread. 😭😆
He deserves to be humiliated for what he did to jeff hardy. I know wwe is scripted but i still fucking hate cm punk.
I remember the announcers on wwe would talk about CM punks bjj background his Muay Thai background and when he went into the UFC and displayed absolutely nothing of it 😂
Ugotme killin bro🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was seven when he did that then was 39 during his UFC fights. He is decades removed from knowing how to fight there are pro wrestlers that can fight Brock Lesnar,Minoru Suzuki, Shibata,Jack Swagger,Jack Galahar, Kurt Angle, Aliester Black,El berto del Rio, bobby Lashely, Dan Seven, Ken Shamrock, William Regal, Antonio Inoki, Shinsuke Nakamura, Shayna Baszler, and even Butter Bean a man with the name Butter Bean who was an actual pro wrestler could kill CM Punk...... CM Punk ain't one of them. Im a fan of CM punks work in ROH and WWE but he should have been training for two years before he ever thought about fighting. Plus even in the WWE he experienced legit pain he even shat himself on an episode of smackdown he does not have a threshold for pain not can he fight. But don't let him as a poor representative for pro wrestling make you hate the sport instead think of the names of Ken Shamrock,Dan Seven and Minoru Suzuki.
The fans also said that. That's when you should know that fanboys are full of it and never trust anything from the Internet.
just because the announcer say it does not mean it is true
@@fidellanga4022 jack gallagher is a fucking pipsqueek dude lmfao fuck outta here
On Punk's WWE DVD, even one of his trainers calls the guy a non-athlete with "lead in his ass". He could structure a compelling 30-minute in-ring story, and sell it on the mic, but an athlete he was not.
^^^^he was even shit on the mic lets be real.
@@gorkskoal9315 lol you must be delusional
@@gorkskoal9315 cm punk was the best on the mic wtf are u saying
Him constantly bragging about his BJJ training was a red flag. Turns out he’s barely even ranked.
@@Thief20 no way
CM punk should have this amateur MMA fight before going to UFC to see if he can do it.
Batista did that once, but turned pretty bad so he didnt proceed to MMA anymore.
I thought Batista won his first fight tho
Kacen Nix He won, but he wasn't consistent in the fight, pretty sure he didn't like his performance and stop, CM Punk should have done the same, I like him but he really sucked at UFC
@@crowns9966 well explained
@@crowns9966 that's the right way to do it. It didn't recieve mucb coverage when it happened so Batista was able to move on without much scrutiny and it did no damage to his image as a wrestler, unlike Punk.
Batista may not have a sport backround but he was a night club bouncer and a lifeguard which means he really knows how to fight and handle things right a really a tough guy in real also he has a strong physiche thanks to his bodybuilding fitness backround im sure he would atleast went 5-0 if he had fought the same level of opponent as vince lucero.
Respect for trying, but Joe made a good comparison a few weeks ago. You don't let an inexperienced climber go up the last several hundred feet of Everest by himself without oxygen. The same rule applies here. It's just stupid and dangerous.
Jackson showed Punk mercy, tbh. He could've knocked Punk into the next dimension in Round 2 on many occasions. Some people say he was showboating. I just think Jackson (another inexperienced fighter) didn't want to permanently damage Punk. Imagine if Punk went against a real UFC fighter. HOLY SHIT.
WarlordRising Jackson didn't show mercy he played around too much if he would of tkod him finished him rather than gone all 3 rounds is better bc he's not getting damaged all 3 rounds so I don't agree with your statement. Jackson is a fool and that's why Dana fired him he acted cocky instead of finishing the fight everyone knows punk can't fight so why drag the fight? Complete opposite of what you're saying.
WarlordRising gall is a real ufc fighter🤷🏻♂️
To be fair Pascal, even Gall was brought in to the UFC a bit early just for the purpose of fighting Punk. He probably could have done with getting some more experience in lesser promotions before signing with the UFC. Most new fighters in the UFC have at the very least 5 pro fights but it's normally more like 10+. Mickey had 1 before he fought Mike Jackson and Punk, which don't even really count. The guy is basically 2-1. He has a load of potential but he needs experience.
Funny cause i watched Everest the movie today
Pascal Luchs I was gonna say, he already has fought a real UFC fighter.
“Believe in yourself kids”😂😂😂
These all fights of CM Punk shows that how tough CM Punk is in his real life 😂😂😂😂
It’s not because he lost at UFC that he won’t be able to beat most people on the streets !
Joe move your microphone I wanna know what sad face plus archer equals
IKR!
I searched "sad face and bow shirt", Google got my back!
It's just a happy face
There are two types of people in this world. 1)Those that can extrapolate from missing data.
5:24 its a happy face
@@aspire4more Nice com....
Dana signed him, he insulted the sport
Yeah but see thats just it no one is even focusing on the fact that dana himself before even signing him hated the fact of cm punk wanting to join he never wanted to sign him so heres the real quiestion why the hell would dana do something he dosent want to do. Oh sure let me sign cm punk to ufc i dont want to at all what so ever but ill do it anyway great idea dana
Chris Smith dana sighned brock he was a wwe star yes i know he had a backround when punk didnt but still if danas wrong for taking the gamble on punk he wrong for taking the gamble on brock
I was hoping someone would mention this. How can Dana White make a comment saying the winning fighter will never fight in the UFC again. Dana is the one who put a killer in the ring with an unskilled fighter. The guy who one showed compassion for another person and could very well have thought that he would be in trouble if the fight went too short. Maybe he was thinking the whole time that clearly he's supposed to put on a show. Why would this fight be in a PPV for a 10 sec KO
Exactly how is he gonna get mad at Mike for making a mockery of a clown?
@@gamesmovienation3516 because of projected revenue. Plus if Dana does hate him he can book him with guys that will fuck him up. All the while he rakes in the cash. That's just good business sense.
CM doing mma is like Shawn Michaels doing mma.
😂😂
Late to this, but CM Punk can work a wrestling match like no other, but UFC is just raw athleticism
@A Lakonophile he good he's no flair or sting or anyone whose not from the worst year in wwe in the last year
@A Lakonophile he never beat Lesnar though.
@A Lakonophile to be fair, that's the entire point of WWE. If you don't have the ability to suspend disbelief, it's best to stay away from fiction in general.
@A Lakonophile yeah, that's not really a counterargument to what I said but I agree.
@A Lakonophile honestly, if they had booked him right I might have disagreed. But his WWE title reign involved him not getting into Mania's main event despite being champion and towards the end it just became the shield carrying him before he jobbed twice to a part timer.
CM Punk already have was kind of unbelievable as a top guy but take money in the bank 2011 for instance. They came so close to making him a legitimate guy and they squandered it. He doesn't have the raw talent or look to do it without good booking like say Cena.
So ridiculous Punk was allowed to fight in UFC.
Brad Gaines right dana white the only dumbass here
Where there's money, there's a way
Remember is all about the money at the end, if it was entertainment they would have never allowed a guy with no experience like Punk go there, I like his pro wrestling career but damn did he sucked in UFC
Col Friday yeah true also punk just went to get ass handles to him for a couple thousand lol
Brad Gaines he’s mostly signed cause for ratings, Dana White screwed up for signing him
Their point about CM Punk was not just that he is too inexperienced or too amateur for the UFC. Their point is that his development over these last few years as a competitive martial artist has been incredibly unimpressive. Not only did he come into MMA with no experience, he has been very slow to progress. Probably due to his age and coddled training. Many people can train diligently for 4 years and look very good, Punk is not one of those people.
This is not about UFC level vs amateur level, Mike Jackson is an amateur and he looked like Anderson Silva out there. This is not his thing, he would have never been a great fighter. Even low level mixed martial arts promotions would make him look bad. This isn't about the UFC being too high level, this is about CM being bad at MMA after so much high level training. Dude needs to stop.
Alchemistic Academician and no mike jackson looked like another amatuer who needs to go back to his day job as well. the only comparison id make to anderson about him is that they both are full of them selves and are fucking idiots.
Duke Roufus was his coach...
Amen
Alchemistic Academician cut that four years in half, he had an undiagnosed herniated disc which required last minute surgery right before the Gall fight. That would obviously hamper development.
As a gigantic CM Punk fan... I will concede to you, very well said.
CM Punk is an actor, plain and simple. He's trained on putting on a show. That's it. That's all.
Cm punk is gay
No. He was trained to be a fighter, he trained for 4 years for it. That's exactly the problem. He was trained for by high level trainers and he looked like possibly one of the worst fighters to ever step into an octagon.
@@amogussex9921 he froze and he knew this shit ain’t scripted lol
As a WWE guy, while he isn't my favorite, he does put on one hell of a show
CM going into UFC is like A engineer changing his stream to medical 😂
LMAOOOOO
So Bill Gates.
That's possible as long as you have enough money and time to study. But studying doesn't require athletic skills which are limited by one's body.
Engineers build the tools that the medical professionals use .
@@lawrencesaavedra758 yep and people are blind sheeps there's a reason why they are creators of everything. Also cell phones and laptops people used for commenting.
Punk is a great example of buying into your own hype in a predetermined business.
Unfortunately Bret Hart was like that too... actually a few wrestlers are back then. I'm not sure about now. I don't watch WWE anymore
Punk probably had yes men around him telling him he was doing “great”.
@@sonofage Bret hart was awesome.....
I think he just wanted to try it. I don’t think he was over there expecting to be a two division champion.
@@alejandrocisneros7442 people are just like that. i would take phil brooks than connor mcgregor anyday. phil isn't an asshole when on interviews. he talks and tells stories just like a regular person and you won't see a hint of smugness when he is in public.
Remember when Joe was super praising Ronda's "striking" & saying it looked awesome and scary?
Phenomenal 2112 I mean it was that’s why she started out 12-0 and basically made the women’s division in the UFC
Hi Way she didn't become 12-0 because of her striking bro.
Head movement.... head movement....heaaaad movement
Hi Way bahahahaha no, it was her judo and throws. That's it, my three year old niece can box better than Ronda
I feel Joe is unfairly being dissed because of him praising Ronda's striking back then. I'm not as much as an avid watcher of UFC anymore unlike before, but back then, I remember that when the women's division was just starting out and Ronda was being hyped as a dominant champion, a lot of folks thought she was a complete fighter and she did seem like it. Her striking was not seen as impressive but people thought that it was decent enough to compete in high level mma. After all, she did get wins with KO punches too, and she deceptively looked decent with her stand-up earlier in her career because of her opponents. So Joe praising Ronda's striking at that time doesn't really sound that absurd, unlike it is now with hindsight. But then her loss to Holm came which really exposed how crappy Ronda's striking is. People then realized that Ronda's striking back then just looked decent because she never fought against an excellent striker before until her loss to Holm.
I'm quite sure Mike Jackson got paid off to stretch that fight...
He might not be successful at mma but one thing is he has cojones stepping into the octagon and giving it a shot which I respect him for .
if i decide, with zero experience, to become a stuntman and throw my ass off a building for a scene, mess myself up, disrespect the industry for being so amateur yet getting such a prominent spot in a movie, and somehow be so bad that I get another stuntman whodoes his job just fine fired in the process, its all good cause people should respect the fact I tried?
@@theoneandjabroni3002 do it become a stuntman
@@Tburk97 fuck it im in, look for me in the next fast and furious
CM PUNK IS 39 years old thats a bit late to start doing high level mixed martial arts!
Exactly, a 25 or 30 year old would be in his prime....he is 39 and at the end of competitive fighting against younger, more experienced fighters.
Bennewman11
Absolutely! At 40, one is the same any longer. It's proven.
Plus when you can't even win bar fights!!!
thats the reasonn why this mike dude shoulda gone ahead and ended it clean and quick, watchin him spar the whole fight milking it was embarassing and he denies showboating tho lol. like cmon dude your fighting an old cm punk. Hope dana is serious ab booting his ass.
Yoel who fought that night was 41. CM Punk is just untalented. He not a real Athlete and would never be.
I really wanted to see the green ranger from Power Rangers versus CM Punk
He challeneged him back in 2011. Now, I can see why CM Punk declined..........
You mean Tommy? I forgot his real name but he's actually had some real fights.
Never seen JDF fight but he probably wouldn't have owned Punk as bad as Mickey Gall did. Shame too b/c The Green Ranger def would've sold more tix than Gall. Wasted money there.
I have never been an MMA fan... I would pay for that PPV.
Jason David Frank would have MURDERED Punk! 😆
Punk Calling Gall a can crusher is one of the funniest thing I've ever heard 😁
Wrestling is a whole different thing, don’t compare it. Everything has its ups and downs
Watching CM Punk fighting is like listening to Tyron Woodley Rap
Watching CM Punk fighting is like listening to Rap.
John Watts is blatantly racist
Or watching Floyd Mayweather try to read a Dr. Seuss book
@LlamaKing98
Rap is the biggest genre in the world right now has been for a while...and there’s absolutely nothing you can do abt it
@really dude Why you being so butthurt and racist all because one guy doesn't like rap? Everyone has their own preference.
His coaches are to blame for giving him a false sense of belief.
17seventySIX Thank you. That's what I've been saying. It looks like the guy sucks, and his team is telling him "good job". Stop with that, "Oh, he has the best team bla bla", because I don't think they did a good job.
17seventySIX nooooo, its the fact that UFC paid him tons of cash and in turn Punk is paying his coaches a ton. Soooo, id take that gig if Punk came to me.
Yah confidence is so overrated. The great ones go in scared shitless cause their trainers have beat them down and told them how good they really are. Billy you're probably gonna lose cause you're shit, but give him he'll kid . GTFO
They had believed in him.
Why didn't he run in a few amateur fights before turning to the UFC. I guess cos of age, and cos of ego. This is pretty sad really.
0:00: this guy looks like edge without hair
I would love to see the spirit squad in ufc
CM Punk tried to do what Brock Lesnar did.
Thing is Brock Lesnar is a god damn freak of natural. Punk, is not.
I don't even watch UFC, and Punks fights have been so bad that even I had to check out his first loss. The guy should give it up. He's no Brock Lesnar, he's no Bobby Lashley, CM Punk just can't handle MMA.
Justin Lynch lol you’re right at first... but Brock is shit I mean don’t get me wrong he can probably beat me but he can’t compete in the UFC just watch him and Overeem, rua, mir these guys all beat the shit out of him. And I’m not talking about Brock steroids lesnar. He just got disrespected when he didn’t
There IS a history or PROF wrestling and MMA switching people since the beginning - Ken Shamrock, Tank Abbot, ext ext, but they mostly come from MMA to WRESTLING not in this case, the other way around
+Jaurae Holman brock could "probably" beat you up? nah he can beat you up 100 of 100 times. brock really only got beat up by cain and overeem, he beat the shit out of mir and defeated shane carwin to name a few...
no im not jordan first off he beat mir when he was off peds when he wasn’t who won? Also do you even know me Ik myself I probably couldn’t beat Brock lesnar but by the way you are stroking him I bet I could beat the shit out of you. Brock is athletic, he is big and strong but he isn’t a good fighter when he meets good fighters he gets rocked he only beat two old men and a newbie talent and guess what he didn’t do it off his own gains. Good to know you don’t know your fav fighter can’t fight without peds
Lashley and lesnar are respected amateur wrestlers while punk has no background of combat sport. It has nothing to do with size
Quote from Punk's wrestling trainer in the DVD: "He had lead in his ass, doing a leapfrog wasn't easy for him".
Really difficult to excel in more than one field, especially when the fields aren't related. I imagine Rogan is right about competitive sports like football and track being much more useful in UFC preparation than a performing sport like wrestling. Punk wasn't able to make the competitive fighting transition near as well as Lashley or Lesnar. But then again, Lesnar didn't have that much success with football, although I hear that was due to injury. If he did he would have excelled in three things and that's super difficult.
Apparently wrestler Kazuchika Okada in New Japan has a track and field background that has served him VERY well in wrestling. His vertical leap on those dropkicks is amazing. Best in the business. Do the things wrestlers do count as athletic even though there's no real competition? I would say yes, but Rogan appears to say no. Falling off a ladder without hurting yourself too bad seems athletic to me, and I know CM Punk did that.
Well I mean both Lashley and Lesnar were legit athletes back in college. Lesnar obv was a great wrestler and on practice squad in the NFL. Lashley was also a wrestler and in the army at one point, so that's some combat experience I'm guessing. CM Punk is nowehere near either of them in terms of natural athletic ability.
But yeah I agree, wrestlers are essentially stuntmen. Even something as simple as balancing on the top ropes requires you to be "athletic" to me
Lashley and Lesnar have legit collegiate records. Brock is a 2x NCAA.
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Joe is talking about combat athleticism. Acrobatics don't translate to real fighting. Sure it's fine in fake wrestling but without a collegiate level background in wrestling you're not a athlete when it comes to mma. You can teach a gymnast or ballet dancer to do fake wrestling but they aren't anywhere near a athletic level when it comes to real wrestling or mma.
Punk is a performer. One of the greatest performers in his field. But it's a whole different ball game. Like asking someone who acts as a special forces member, to go out and be a special forces member with only 1 year of training. No chance. If punk had 5 years of consistent pro training under his belt, sure maybe.
But dana basically signed a big name amateur fighter. Arguably not even amateur, just a hobbyist/enthusiast.
They would have done better by having Punk as a promoter, interviewer, and ringside.
Is that Joe Rogan interviewing "The Rated R Superstar", Edge?
CM Punk should fight Hornswoggle next to build confidence & fight IQ
yep punk cant handle big guys just Hornswoggle lol btw i can beat him too hes a pure idiot and thinking hes best in the world.......wow what a joke lmao
Crunch Buttsteak lol
He should fight Kevin James. He would probably lose though.
They should give him Artem Lobov.... wait.. nvm
Isabelle Groleau Kevin James was actual a wrestler in High School with Mick Foley. Foley said Kevin James was better than him. Punk would probably lose to him lol.
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At least joe is just being honest about Cm punk like the other guy just hates him lol
Kosta dean yes cm punk was too sloppy but atleast he tried
Hey that's Joe Schilling put respekt on the mans name.
0:17 "don't believe in yourself" oh okay thanks...
Pretty dumb statement😶
@@wrath231 fr🤣
It's true though.
@@emoandproud7150 ok pseudo-intellectual
What pisses me off is no one denounces Dana directly. Dana decided to throw Punk right into big spotlight fights ahead of actual deserving fighters. It’s Dana who only cares about money and attention. Dana has so many parallels to Vince McMahon it’s ridiculous. They both are greedy, egomaniacal, and selfish. They both will screw over deserving and talented fighters/wrestlers on an emotional whim. And they both have lost the plot to what matters in their product. Oh, and neither will ever step down until they are dead regardless of how much they are harming their product.
Ironically, Punk's utter failure in UFC just makes me realize how damn good he is in wrestling, that despite having zero athletic ability he managed to get millions of people to buy into him, meanwhile legit guys like Shelton Benjamin or Jake Hager who would wrestle circles around him just never could break through to that next level.
Because Punk could talk on the mic. That is the most important thing in wwe. It's what made Austin, The Rock so popular.
@@dang2320 don’t ever disrespect Austin and the rock ever again
@@albertsotomayor5432 I not trying to disrespect them. But that's the truth.
@@albertsotomayor5432 He didn't disrespect them whats wrong with you
Shelton Benjamin and Jake Hager would have been in the UFC if UFC popped off 10 years before it actually did. Kurt Angle would be a UFC legend if he started 10 years later than he did.
Just unfortunate UFC lost a lot of great wrestlers to WWE because of timing.
I couldn’t stand CM Punk in WWE and in UFC it was a total embarrassment.
Punk should have taken 3-5 regional fights against guys with similar experience before going to UFC.
Even a 2-1 record would've made his stint more exciting.
CM Punk is so bad he literally lost to a man named Michael Jackson.. HEEEEEE HEEEEEE
YellowPercocets hccftyyyhhyyyhyyhtyygthffhucugu
LMAOOOOO. Heeeeee heeeeeee! *with the crotch grab*
@Gus Bus I got em
He literally got tickled against his will against someone named Michael Jackson
U r right, I think he's a lot more richer from wwe tho. I think it's gonna be one of those debates that hell have with himself
McMohon family especially Paul Levesque loves this interview very much.
Gabriel Ambo grow up bro
Brock Lesnar Alpha Male Brock is a joke... no good without roids grow up
@@everyonewasstealingmynamea919 Take your own advice.
Calling yourself brock lesnar alpha male is beta as fuck
I think triple h would beat punk in a real life fight
As a 6”3 200 pound basketball/ soccer player who has been in prolly 25+ fights I wholly believe I could straight dog cm punk.
@Dollar Decade TV I would sign immediately no bitch in my blood. And plus I have the advantage of seeing him fight 💀💀
I mean basketball players can't fight for shit either but I'd still take you winning over cm punk anyday. He trained for 2 years and yet still looked like it was his first week training
Still richer than you.
Or I can whoop you now
0:53 and Mike Jackson is reportedly fighting in the UFC again, against an Irish prospect in Dean Barry.
Joe "all these people in quarantine are making me the most watched person in my market and my views are beating cable TV." Rogan
So true man. I don't even watch JRE I'm just a casual fan but I'm here watching all his podcasts back2 back
@@Nile15rush_fj I created a Joe Rogan drinking game were whenever he says "Whoa" "that's interesting" "Jamie" or "dmt" I take a drink. I'm usually loaded before noon. This quarantine thing sucks.
1:50 Dana made a joke of the sport by bringing in CM Punk
Correct... Dis is ALL Dana's fault... he is lashing out against Jackson just because he is so pissed at himself
He probably thought CM Punk would kick ass like Brock Lesnar.... NOPE! LOL
Gregory Michaels he brought him in so they make the price tag bigger for the UFC. This was before he actually fought.
Nsf Reporting
Don't talk about my uncle like that bro the man has ideas. Not every idea is gonna be gold
Punk made a joke of Dana white by picking up that fat check
Nothing political, nothing medical, just the good Ole Rogan I love.
Such a brutal roast in the most subtle way
Apparently, Duke Roufus never told CM Punk that a kick is supposed to be a hip explosion.
I love Joe, but it’s hard to take his opinion seriously. He once said Ronda could starch Floyd Mayweather. The DMT is getting to him.
Retro Fighter was that before we found out how good Floyd is at fighting women?
Retro Fighter Rhonda couldn’t even defeat top women competition when it showed up
He will have the option of whoever he's sat there at the time.
Well when Joe said that Rhonda did look amazing and was then checked. It's not like she's untalented. Cm punk never won and was defeated terribly twice. He has Merritt to say this. People can be wrong about things. We can't see into the future.
@@yomamuglyhaha3196 but he said she'd beat Floyd you have no argument 😂
His physique shows that he's not a natural athlete. People like that have to train harder than the best in the world to somewhat compete. At least he tried.
Joe would have kicked CM Punk’s ass 🤷🏻♂️
And CM Punk has blocked Joe Rogan
No surprise. Someone who likes to drop "truth pipe bombs" can't handle a taste of his own medicine.
@@balancer182 a "pipe bomb" that was scripted, agreed upon and coordinated with management before airing live, yet morons still think its a legit shoot.
Publius Ventidius Bassus No shit kid. No one is going to let someone on an expiring contract go out and air their dirty laundry on live tv
@@publiusventidiusbassus1232
It was scripted
@@user-ui3pw1ys3k it was not. That's why his mic got cut off, specifically at the bulling campaign
You can't just jump into MMA and expect to beat these guys that have been training at it for years, unless you have something extraordinary like Lesnar's size and amateur wrestling background, and even then, he got caught in a heel hook by Frank Mir right out of the gate and had to really go back and get enough training to have some basic defense. Punk is a really good example of what would happen to most pro wrestlers, and it's not a knock on them, but it's pretty arrogant to think you can walk into another profession and do it as well as the guys who have devoted years to it.
I can't say I I know anything about mma or ufc but punk always seemed like a very overconfident guy to me, maybe he let his hype from the WWE go to his head, I don't know but wwe and ufc isn't something you can compare with each other. I have no idea how true this is but most punk fans back in the day, at least some that I spoke with talked about how the guy had a solid mma background and how he did brazilian ju jitsu but if that's the case how come he's failing so miserably in the UFC? I just don't get it.
Not to mention Lesnar got smoked by top guys, only ever really beating the lower tier of the heavyweight division.
Lesnar only lost to Mir due to a bad ref call, had a more competent referee been in there, Brock would’ve won by TKO
Beat Couture, Mir (could have been twice) and an undefeated Carwin at the time. Lesnar did pretty well.
I think one other problem is that professional wrestling is too much away from mma nowadays. When the guys wanted to protect kayfabe, they must be real tough guys to beat anyone thats want to pick a fight against them. Like all the 90s shoot style uwfi guys or the guys from new japan in the 70s 80s 90s like antonio inoki, minoru suzuki etc. dont forget all the real hooker like karl gotch or lou thesz. That would be the only guys who had a chance when they would do mma training but nowaydays when everything ia wrestling is so phoney and only had spots after spots you no longer need do be a legit catch as catch can wrestler or shooter.
Damn I don't remember him tickling him 🤣
Joe "Don't Believe in yourself" Rogan
5:25 " I understand what im talking about" coming from the person who said ronda could beat men in the UFC lol
Rogan is usually pretty objective when it comes to MMA, but he had this weird obsession with Ronda that made him believe she was WAY better than she actually was. Her grappling is definitely on point, but that's not enough to beat 99% of men her size ESPECIALLY not men who are also professional fighters.
Even any random man on the street would easily beat her just by weight and strength advantage. If Rondas true striking skills were that awful against other females, imagine what a fully grown man would had done to her.
agreed. Unless they were really small, but yes any man her size or larger would beat her easily with just a few punches.
nope. any professional male fighter her size? yes. but if you were to take some random dude off the street that matched her size she'd demolish them, you dudes ain't being smart
Ronda could beat punk
Let me name some successful WWE fighters who crossed over to MMA: Brock Lesnar, Bobby Lashley, Jack Hager
And batista
Jake Hager is fighting bums
STEVEN rana Batista did compete for MMA but the dude is just too slow and his opponent wasn’t even on that caliber of being known as a decent fighter either
Lesnar first went to football and was super competitive in the first place so something that physical makes sense for him. Lashley was a pure walking wall of muscle, like Lesnar before him, who was competitive enough to want to fight full contact. Hager was the person who was willing to go for the biggest target in the room. Batista tried it, found out he was too slow for most fights and wisely left to pursue what he was essentially doing under McMahon, that is acting.
What's the difference between those men and Punk? They were willing (eager even) to be as physically demanding as they could against the toughest opponent they could find, especially when the serialized soap opera they performed on insisted they follow the script they didn't want to follow. Punk doesn't have that same drive, he wants to be an entertainer. That's admirable, but the other guy usually isn't concerned with putting on a show; he's concerned with putting you out.
@@Rana-ob3bk Batista wasn't good at it. He won the only fight he almost lost because his opponent wasn't very good either.
Who’s here after CM punk returned to AEW??
3:39 “-ARMOR YOU NEED OR A NEW BLADE, COME SEE ME”
Get Punk on the show!
He doesn’t do media like that. It just wouldn’t benefit him the way it does most of his guests
He just got done with a lawsuit... bc of a podcast
Makaveli Soldier Punk has a bad taste about media, plus after he got fired from UFC I won’t be surprised if he goes ghost for a while
Yeah that’ll never happen
No.
joe ''everyone has a monster ground game'' rogan
the song on the phone was 4 seasons by vivaldi. I can tell just by the section he hummed.
I'm a CM Punk fan and I believe everything he's saying I loved CM Punk's work in WWE but once he left and went to UFC it was all down hill with CM Punk.
CM Punk is charismatic and entertaining but he really should stop kidding himself on the octagon.
Not gonna respond to inane questions, other than he has several millions of fans across the globe for a reason.
He gave it a shot, and I respect him a lot for that. But yeah, he's never going to be anywhere close to a contender in any legitimate fighting promotion.
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male Real alpha right here 😂
Brock Lesnar Alpha Male You always come up as an asshole, you don't like WWE I get it, pussy fans are in every industry dude
@Brock Lesnar Alpha Male Lol! Exactly! Fuck CM Punk delusional fans!
It was an embarrassing spectacle. CM barely even knew how to throw a punch!
Need to see Mickey Gall vs CM Punk 2
The haircut on CM Punk was like his fighting.
@BillieEilish#1Fan Hahaa!! That’s exactly who I was thinking! I pictured that and Creepy Thin Man.
Maybe he (McFly) always has that haircut.
i think dana was pissed at the guy for exposing White's cash grab,
Usually the case
Good call.. Facts
Everybody including Punk knew what this was.
I think you hit the nail on the head there
Truth right here. Dana is exploiting the fighters.
I think his problem was that in the WWE they train to make sure they don't hurt each other too much. Going from that to a world where people have been training to hurt people would be a difficult transition for anyone
Just because Brock and that have won MMA matches doesn't mean it's not hard.
I'm just saying it must not be that easy making that transition between the two
Been around boxers and the successful ones have a fire inside of them, you can see it im their eyes, Punk never had that, even if he had trained when young, he still would not have been a successful fighter in my opinion
@@phonicEDDIE1234 Only reason Brock won was because of matchups and his wrestling. Brock fucking sucks but he got some big fucking balls
One trained to be killers
OtherS trained to be victims
Joe “this is what I DO” Rogan
I can respect Joe's opinion, it doesn't matter the topic; he's straightforward, honest, and kindhearted with his delivery.