Congratulations! Just picked up my customised wheelchair last week along with Batec attachment! Makes all the difference in the world having your own. Batec gave back my independence! Love your channel! Smashed the like button & you have a new subscriber mate! All the best! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🇦🇺
The Batec has made a huge difference to our lives, we love the extra independence it gives us! Thanks for the kind words, we're glad to have you with us! 😃
Definitely more comfortable to sit in than the last chair, hopefully it'll help the posture in the long term. Gotta give the credit to Claire for thinking of the aisle wheels, we'd be trying to workout ways to be able to get around a campervan for months
Love getting to see the customizations you've made and I can't wait to hear how they're all working for you. The freewheel attachment point on the back is utterly brilliant as that's m a thing I've worried about if I ever manage to get a freewheel myself. I'll definitely keep in mind that concept
The freewheel is great but the attachment that comes with it really is it's downfall. We had just tied a string around it and attached a caribener clip to the bag of the wheelchair and had carried it like that up until now. So far this new attachment seems to work great but we haven't had it on there yet for particularly long or anything so we still need to give it a good test to properly see how it holds up
It depends how it's positioned, you can adjust the angle so if you push it in so it's under the wheelchair it's fine but if not yeah it can touch the floor during a wheelie
Yeah I think that's the same or at least the Scottish equivalent. You're doing well to get a Helium on the NHS, it's definitely an upgrade on the argon2 I and most people get!
Cool chair! You never said how much it cost? Also, what a great idea with the aisle chair adjustments, do you think you could use that to access planes?
We were going to mention it but then decided not to since the price of HOCs chairs varies so much depending on customisations. Unlike most companies, they are also very transparent about prices on their website. I guess it could've been good to mention the base price though to give people an idea - unfortunately only just thought of it now. Yeah they should work on planes providing the rest of the chair is narrow enough. Wouldn't get them just for that but will try it out next time since we have the option
@@PARALIFE thanks for the reply, yeah I know their base prices, but it would have been cool to know how much the chair was with the added bits and bobs, and the postage. I've been thinking about gettting one and that info would have been helpful. Can't wait for part 2 !
Most peoples who've asked us about the chair haven't even heard of HOC so we just don't want to put people off HOC because of customisations 90% won't even have. But if you want the details feel free to message us on IG, Facebook or email. Shipping and importing a wheelchair we're thinking of doing a dedicated video on, it's a bit of a ballache and we still haven't finished with customs even though it arrived a couple of weeks ago!
@@PARALIFE Wow, yeah, I can't wait for that video, I'm sure it'll be great to find out those important details. I'll shoot you a message then for the inside info! Thanks
We haven't weighed it yet and there's no standard weight of these chairs since the customisations will effect it so not 100% sure. The titanium frame is very lightweight and comparable to the rgk octane but the shock adds extra weight, for our lifestyle it was worth it but wouldn't recommend the shock to all wheelchair users. It's slightly lighter than my argon 2 even with the shock. One of the other chairs that hands on concepts make - the rigid lite - is supposed to weigh between 4 and 5kg depending on size and options. I did actually look into getting an RGK octane sub 4 originally but after some research I found out 3 things; 1 - lots of other companies also make equally as lightweight chairs, 2 - it won't always be less than 4kg if you're a bigger person and need a bigger frame so probably would've been over 4kg for me and 3 - the footplate is made of such thin metal that it is liable to break with the freewheel which is a deal breaker for me (fine with the frontwheel but since I already have the freewheel I don't want another) so it wasn't for me but I do know loads of wheelchair users who have and love their sub 4s.
Have you guys done a review/comparison between the 2 chairs yet? I thought you said you had in one video...but then never saw a link and it has only been a month. By the way the isle wheels seem amazing...but how does he move around?
This is the video we were referring to (not a like for like comparison between the 2 but we mention the things we have changed). We were planning on doing a review video for the new wheelchair once we've had time to test it out properly. With the aisle wheels, I would just have to pull myself around off the furniture. It's a bit more annoying but it's such a small space anyway that it won't make much difference.
@@PARALIFE handles for pulling yourself around can be fun! I also have 2 handles on the front door for closing it is also a huge help! I go to this one restaurant and they have a handle so you can close the stall door in the bathroom.
I¬i, thanks for the vid! I got a sunriseMedical EasyLife SA cause I need it foltable and I need my footrests to put in up to 90 °, my legs swell and hurt too much to have thm down longer than 1,5 hrs. I needed 3 times more than each 2 hrs to make it fit specially for me, there has been changed a lot from normal to custom, to ME. My specialist thought noone could need what i need but after knowing me a bit he came to understand that it was clearly right as I said. Only 2 times he had an idea that was a bit better! So now my chair is way much more maneuverable, it doen't ssssssrrrrr all the time I drive over rough streets or asphalt or sand or…doesn't matter. I took 5' casters cause I don't wanna feel them to be right or left kind of „dizzy“ inside of the forks. You know what I mean? I'm no native speaker, so , please, I do my very best!
It's amazing how everybody needs different things, even with similar injuries, we're glad you found something that works well for you! PS. you're English is great! 😀
You're right, Hands on Concepts are only based in the USA. We communicated via email/phone and video call and they built the chair in the USA and shipped it to me here. They currently do not have a UK distributor as far as we're aware. 👍
Is there any one you know welling to give donate used,secondhand wheelchair or any kind of stuff that is useful for a parapligic that is less furtunate.
We don't know anyone who is right now, but we can keep an eye out if you let you know what you're wanting? Things like what size? We also just saw this post on Facebook where someone is donating their old one facebook.com/groups/sciownersclub/permalink/3466378516754229/
If you have a foldable wheelchair with aisle wheels do you think it would be usable on an airplane? So that the person can hop on to their chair to be wheeled to the bathroom. Anyone has experience flying with it? I don't know how, though I am wondering if the aisle chair could be added with a way for the users to wheel themselves without making it bulky.
Afraid we're not sure what it would be like on a plane and not sure about if anyone else has used one. Don't see why this one couldn't be used to board a plane provided it's narrow enough to get down the aisle but it would likely not be small enough when folded down to fit in the overhead lockers so probably would still have to be stored in the hold. If the front frame could also fold as well as the back then it probably would fit
@@PARALIFE Speaking of fitting in an airplane aisles and such, I just came across a wheelchair called Revolve Air. It does just that, it is so compact and can fit into just about anywhere. Although there are some things I'd personally like to customize about it still, I find it awesome. By the way, there's also Phoenix i wheelchair you can check out. Hopefully in the a few years they'll be more affordable.
Hi I love to GET A wheelchair but I could not a afford it I just aluminum. 1500 euros I leave in ireland. Im5feet 7inches and waist 30 inches. Thank you. I hope you can help.
@@PARALIFE Touché. I didn’t dislike my freewheel use, but I def didn’t love it either. I wish it had a more solid mounting system, but other than that it was top notch. My one experience with it ended in a bent freewheel, likely from not adjusting it to fit as tightly as possible in the first place. Regardless, I wish it was a bit more solid.
Your Very fortunate having a good wheelchair.that fits your needs.im a parapligic but cannot afford to buy.
Congratulations!
Just picked up my customised wheelchair last week along with Batec attachment!
Makes all the difference in the world having your own. Batec gave back my independence! Love your channel!
Smashed the like button & you have a new subscriber mate! All the best! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🇦🇺
The Batec has made a huge difference to our lives, we love the extra independence it gives us! Thanks for the kind words, we're glad to have you with us! 😃
can see already your posture is so much better and those aisle wheels are a genius idea
Definitely more comfortable to sit in than the last chair, hopefully it'll help the posture in the long term. Gotta give the credit to Claire for thinking of the aisle wheels, we'd be trying to workout ways to be able to get around a campervan for months
Love getting to see the customizations you've made and I can't wait to hear how they're all working for you. The freewheel attachment point on the back is utterly brilliant as that's m a thing I've worried about if I ever manage to get a freewheel myself. I'll definitely keep in mind that concept
The freewheel is great but the attachment that comes with it really is it's downfall. We had just tied a string around it and attached a caribener clip to the bag of the wheelchair and had carried it like that up until now. So far this new attachment seems to work great but we haven't had it on there yet for particularly long or anything so we still need to give it a good test to properly see how it holds up
@@PARALIFE One thing I had noticed from the video, is that it seems to hang quite low, does it affect your wheelies?
It depends how it's positioned, you can adjust the angle so if you push it in so it's under the wheelchair it's fine but if not yeah it can touch the floor during a wheelie
@@PARALIFE great job done by you doth , I'm also a paraplegic. And wife also supports me as yours. Which is the best wheelchair for India .
Aisle wheels - love it
I like those kind of wheelchairs.
The wheels for the van are a good idea, can't wait to see the van when its finished
Hopefully they work as well as we hope, excited for the van to be finished!
Also are you in lockdown atm?
@@PARALIFE just seen this, so nice that Wales are out on Monday
Very well thought design! Congratulations!
Awesome, Looking forward to the next one 👍👍
that is a nice ride right there!
Loving it so far!
Good thinking outside the box. Keep it up!
Wonderful, thanks. :)
This week my first own chair RGK, keep on rolling folks 🧑🦽💪🏻
Very bling, love the titanium/CF combo. Hope it lives up to expectations!
So far so good, definitely an upgrade. Have you ordered/know what you're getting yet?
@@PARALIFE Quickie Helium, looks very decent so I'm looking forward to giving it a spin.
Nice, are you getting that through wheelchair services?
@@PARALIFE via NHS Scotland if that's the same route? Just ordered the other day so hopefully does me well for the first couple of years
Yeah I think that's the same or at least the Scottish equivalent. You're doing well to get a Helium on the NHS, it's definitely an upgrade on the argon2 I and most people get!
+1 Very instructiv :-)
Would love to see the follow-up to the new custom whealchair experience
nice... my manual wheelchair is so old.
Sorry to hear that, a nice lightweight wheelchair really makes a huge difference!
Can you make an updated video on your chair?
how is the monoshock? notice a difference. Was looking at loopwheels but these seem nicer.
Hello when do you plan to review hoc wheelchair
Hi, we want to make sure we have really put it through its paces before we review it, so it will be a little while longer yet. 👍
This is how a footplate needs to be👍 But why are normal footplates so short?
We know! This one is so much better than the old one.
Do the side guards fold down? Or do you just have that extra height in the car for example?
Cool chair! You never said how much it cost?
Also, what a great idea with the aisle chair adjustments, do you think you could use that to access planes?
We were going to mention it but then decided not to since the price of HOCs chairs varies so much depending on customisations. Unlike most companies, they are also very transparent about prices on their website. I guess it could've been good to mention the base price though to give people an idea - unfortunately only just thought of it now.
Yeah they should work on planes providing the rest of the chair is narrow enough. Wouldn't get them just for that but will try it out next time since we have the option
@@PARALIFE thanks for the reply, yeah I know their base prices, but it would have been cool to know how much the chair was with the added bits and bobs, and the postage. I've been thinking about gettting one and that info would have been helpful. Can't wait for part 2 !
Most peoples who've asked us about the chair haven't even heard of HOC so we just don't want to put people off HOC because of customisations 90% won't even have. But if you want the details feel free to message us on IG, Facebook or email. Shipping and importing a wheelchair we're thinking of doing a dedicated video on, it's a bit of a ballache and we still haven't finished with customs even though it arrived a couple of weeks ago!
@@PARALIFE Wow, yeah, I can't wait for that video, I'm sure it'll be great to find out those important details. I'll shoot you a message then for the inside info! Thanks
your new chair is really cool. Im in a tilite aero z, but due for a new chair. If I may ask, what is the cost of the Hands On chair?
What is it with US Wheelchairs without sideguards? I would never order one with out them.
It has been over 2 years at this point. Where is the review video you mentioned?
such a sick chair!
Yo when you guys coming back? 🇨🇦🤘
How much does it weigh ? The RGK sub 4 range actually weighs less than 4kg which is a fantastic improvement for active wheelchair users
We haven't weighed it yet and there's no standard weight of these chairs since the customisations will effect it so not 100% sure. The titanium frame is very lightweight and comparable to the rgk octane but the shock adds extra weight, for our lifestyle it was worth it but wouldn't recommend the shock to all wheelchair users. It's slightly lighter than my argon 2 even with the shock. One of the other chairs that hands on concepts make - the rigid lite - is supposed to weigh between 4 and 5kg depending on size and options.
I did actually look into getting an RGK octane sub 4 originally but after some research I found out 3 things; 1 - lots of other companies also make equally as lightweight chairs, 2 - it won't always be less than 4kg if you're a bigger person and need a bigger frame so probably would've been over 4kg for me and 3 - the footplate is made of such thin metal that it is liable to break with the freewheel which is a deal breaker for me (fine with the frontwheel but since I already have the freewheel I don't want another) so it wasn't for me but I do know loads of wheelchair users who have and love their sub 4s.
Have you guys done a review/comparison between the 2 chairs yet? I thought you said you had in one video...but then never saw a link and it has only been a month. By the way the isle wheels seem amazing...but how does he move around?
This is the video we were referring to (not a like for like comparison between the 2 but we mention the things we have changed). We were planning on doing a review video for the new wheelchair once we've had time to test it out properly.
With the aisle wheels, I would just have to pull myself around off the furniture. It's a bit more annoying but it's such a small space anyway that it won't make much difference.
@@PARALIFE handles for pulling yourself around can be fun! I also have 2 handles on the front door for closing it is also a huge help! I go to this one restaurant and they have a handle so you can close the stall door in the bathroom.
I¬i, thanks for the vid! I got a sunriseMedical EasyLife SA cause I need it foltable and I need my footrests to put in up to 90 °, my legs swell and hurt too much to have thm down longer than 1,5 hrs. I needed 3 times more than each 2 hrs to make it fit specially for me, there has been changed a lot from normal to custom, to ME. My specialist thought noone could need what i need but after knowing me a bit he came to understand that it was clearly right as I said. Only 2 times he had an idea that was a bit better! So now my chair is way much more maneuverable, it doen't ssssssrrrrr all the time I drive over rough streets or asphalt or sand or…doesn't matter. I took 5' casters cause I don't wanna feel them to be right or left kind of „dizzy“ inside of the forks. You know what I mean? I'm no native speaker, so , please, I do my very best!
It's amazing how everybody needs different things, even with similar injuries, we're glad you found something that works well for you! PS. you're English is great! 😀
Can I ask how much the custom chair worked out to be please? And what make was it again?
It's from Hands On Concepts in San Diego. You can find all the prices here: www.teamhoc.com/Downloadable_Form_V01.pdf
hey how did you go about getting the new chair? I've googled Hands on Concepts and they appear to be based in USA. Is there a UK distributor?
You're right, Hands on Concepts are only based in the USA. We communicated via email/phone and video call and they built the chair in the USA and shipped it to me here. They currently do not have a UK distributor as far as we're aware. 👍
@@PARALIFE I see, that’s great. Thanks for getting back to me!
how much?
Is there any one you know welling to give donate used,secondhand wheelchair or any kind of stuff that is useful for a parapligic that is less furtunate.
We don't know anyone who is right now, but we can keep an eye out if you let you know what you're wanting? Things like what size? We also just saw this post on Facebook where someone is donating their old one facebook.com/groups/sciownersclub/permalink/3466378516754229/
If you have a foldable wheelchair with aisle wheels do you think it would be usable on an airplane? So that the person can hop on to their chair to be wheeled to the bathroom. Anyone has experience flying with it?
I don't know how, though I am wondering if the aisle chair could be added with a way for the users to wheel themselves without making it bulky.
Afraid we're not sure what it would be like on a plane and not sure about if anyone else has used one. Don't see why this one couldn't be used to board a plane provided it's narrow enough to get down the aisle but it would likely not be small enough when folded down to fit in the overhead lockers so probably would still have to be stored in the hold. If the front frame could also fold as well as the back then it probably would fit
@@PARALIFE Okay, thank you. :)
@@PARALIFE Speaking of fitting in an airplane aisles and such, I just came across a wheelchair called Revolve Air. It does just that, it is so compact and can fit into just about anywhere. Although there are some things I'd personally like to customize about it still, I find it awesome. By the way, there's also Phoenix i wheelchair you can check out. Hopefully in the a few years they'll be more affordable.
Could just about afford one caster 🙈😂
Do you get funding for it
Did you weigh it yet?
Hi I love to GET A wheelchair but I could not a afford it I just aluminum. 1500 euros I leave in ireland. Im5feet 7inches and waist 30 inches. Thank you. I hope you can help.
Your freewheel stowed position prevents nearly any wheelies?? If so, that’s a VERY bad design...
When properly tightened, it didn't prevent me from doing wheelies, but I have modified it since then to sit higher off the floor and now it's great!
@@PARALIFE Touché. I didn’t dislike my freewheel use, but I def didn’t love it either. I wish it had a more solid mounting system, but other than that it was top notch. My one experience with it ended in a bent freewheel, likely from not adjusting it to fit as tightly as possible in the first place. Regardless, I wish it was a bit more solid.
Your back look so curved , be careful with your posture (scoliosis)
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