16-19 Honda Africa Twin LEAKING COOLANT - CRF1000L Water Pump / Seals
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Information on how to replace water pump / seals in 2016-2019 Honda Africa Twin CRF1000L. Make sure to watch the whole video since there was a touch of misinformation in the beginning.
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Hey thx for the vid! Btw do you think it’s possible to reuse both the tube and pump seals so long as you take them off carefully?
Also if you just changed your oil filter only a few thousand miles is it ok to reuse it too?
I have a 2018, I would recommend you go with a propylene glycol over normal coolent. Engine Ice is usually what I run in my bikes and not only do they run cooler with it, it's much less corrosive and non toxic. It does have a much higher freeze point, in another words it freezes at a higher temperature than normal coolent. As long as your garage doesn't get below 10 degrees Fahrenheit you should be totally fine though. You would have to be careful with that if you live somewhere really cold though. I'm doubtful you'll see this comment, however could you do a fork seal video sometime? I really like your straight forward approach to doing things and you don't make your viewers listen to 15 minutes of crap before you even start the repairs.
just did my at's fork seals. Not hard at all. just need the seals, oil and a cheap seal hammer from Amazon.
Thanks, good video.
According to the owner's manual, a small amount of weeping from the water pump is normal. In my years of auto and bike repair, I find that most pump seals will weep when they are cold and once warmed up it stops. Obviously, if it is flowing there is a failure.
Thanks. And yeah this one was seeping pretty good. As you can see, had quite a bit of corrosion inside.
Thanks for the video, it was a big help. I replaced my AT water pump today. 2016 with 1960 miles. (Bought new in 2018. I don't ride much, just nice Sundays around town). I did let the coolant "age" 5 years though. Won't do that again. Will change every 3 years for sure from now on.
Ride safe.
Great video, Honda recommends checking coolant every 8k miles/12k km and to change it every 3 years, regardless of mileage.
This and the fork seal issues are possibly enough to make me go looking for another ride. Not acceptable at all for the price bracket. Thanks for some real pro video. Appreciated.
I agree that it is unfortunate to see things like this, but I still love this bike! Absolutely worth the money
Yep - It really ticks the boxes! You ever noticed how almost every other ADV ride seems to have some important bit sticking out that could get broken easily. (Or things like engine crash bars that bolt to the engine casing! Doh). The AT seems so sorted. Just don't want to change spark plugs too often! Ho Ho......
All that effort and don't replace the casing gasket.
And running all the case bolts in fully with the battery wrench is a sure fire way to not seat the case correctly.
Other than that, great vid.
How often would a Honda engine water coolant leak...damn good engines. Thanks for the video.
Service manual says" a small amount of weeping is normal, but to make sure there is not a continuous coolant leakage while operating the engine
Replace the water pump as an assembly if necessary."
Question is what is a normal amount of leakage??
I would say if it's dripping or leaking on the ground it's time to replace
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow yep .just ordered parts
that was awesome 👍🏽 thank you very much for that inside and views. I get sick of all the ‘best bike ever’ when there is a reality to everything as well. Have you upgraded your forks yet, and maybe your rear spring strengthened?
my AT smells like coolant burning and i cant figure out why since its new, but now i know where to look. thanks for making this video.
Yeah it drips on the exhaust when you're riding and burns off. Glad it helped out and no problem!
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Yup coolant is dripping from the weep, and my bike hasn't even passed the break in period. Is it normal to leak some or should it not leak at all with a new water pump ?
Yeah if it has that low of miles, I would probably just keep an eye on the coolant level and ride it to see if it stops leaking.
I like the RFVC Honda motor. For the Desert it is non stoppable.
Thanks for making this. We are about to buy one of these, I'll check to see if they leak before spending any money.
No prob! Glad you found it useful! Great bike!
Great video. I guess I must be one of the lucky ones, 50k on my 2017 twin and no leaks.
Thanks. And nice! Do you change the coolant regularly?
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I will be changing it this weekend for the very first time, which is how I stumbled across your video.
I always just keep a close eye on all my fluids. She is my main source of transportation and only sees about 10% dirt.
Only plus sides in California, we can ride year round and lane split lol
@@brandonm9771 got you. Maybe it has something to do with the more steady temperatures you guys have. With the extreme temperature swings we get on the East Coast, things tend to sweat and corrode much easier.
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow
That’s exactly what I was thinking to when I heard you talk about the salt covered roads
thx for the vid. probably a dumb question but if you just changed your oil is it necessary to drain or were you just doing it at the same time because his needed changing too?
Thumbs up 👍 I think you need to have an oil analysis done with each oil change checking for water 💦
Thanks and please do show the possibility water pump replacement on your bike. Have a good weekend
Yeah I will probably shoot a step by step when I do mine. Thanks man and also enjoy your weekend!
Thank you for a simple clear video.
No problem! Glad it helped out
Cheers for the video. I have a 2019 AT and was unaware of the pump issue. Will change the coolant and keep an eye on it.
Thanks for the good info!! My AT was smelling like coolant last time i rode it. (it is snowing here in Montana this weekend so no more riding for awhile) I have just over 10k miles on mine as well. Might be time for a pump. My bike is a manual trans, what would a water pump replacement be like on a DCT model? Just wondering! Thanks again! Cheers!
Glad you found the video helpful. I'm not sure what the difference with a DCT model would be. I would imagine fairly similar process
Some users says this motorcycle is a most reliable one, and I was planning to buy one , for adventure cross country. As you know cross country adventure a reliable bike is most important I think, availability of spare parts and maintenance also is important.
But now I am starting to worry about it.I don’t want to hang around other country waiting for ordered spares to arrive .
Buy a pump & bring it on your trip. I bring spare levers & fork seals so I have the parts.
Thanks for this video it will help with my 2017 AT 👍.
Curious if they've updated the pump on the latest generation AT. I'm considering a new leftover 2020 one.
Not sure. Id guess nah
That is so ridiculous that in 10K miles a water pump goes bad. A friend just received a recall for his AT because evidently the inside of the gas tank has a problem. The short summary is the welding on the tank was not done correctly. The zinc separated from the steel at the welds sending debris into the fuel system, clogging the fuel filter, and causing the bikes to stop running unexpectedly. Some owners are performing their own fix by buying a Guglatech filter instead of the cheesy factor one being used to correct the problem. I would still have the recall work done in case you develop injector problems down the road.
Yeah these pumps seem to start trickling really prematurely. Ashamed to see that. And the fact that it's not the easiest pump to replace. Having one that both right on the side of the case is the best. Like my Yamaha Rhino 660. Interesting about the recall. I haven't heard of that yet. I wonder if the 2017 had it also
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow The recall is for the 2018 to 2020's. I remember Ford got sued for their Duratec engines that had the water pump inside the motor and you didn't know it failed until you did an oil change and saw that it was filled with coolant or the motor destroyed itself. I wish Honda would do the right thing and recall those water pumps and replace them with a better pump. I guess time will tell. I appreciate you taking the time to video the repair.
Yeah. Water pump inside of the engine is never a good thing. These have been out for a few years now and it doesn't look like anybody's had major problems with the water pump. It's just a trickle leak here and there. And no problem, glad you found the video useful
Is the clutch cover all the same size? Thanks.. great video
I don't remember offhand , but if I didn't mention anything then yes probably all the same size. And thanks
did the new pump completely fix this issue or does it still weep a drip every so often?
Yes issue fixed. No drips at all anymore
awesome video! new africa twin 2022 has the same design waterpump?
What a crappy motorbike, leaking coolant, rusting spokes, what else ? May I ask which Honda would you recommend? Or maybe different brand. I’m looking for some adventure bike easy to maintain by myself. Thank you. Great video btw
Depends on what you're looking for. honestly I think this is a pretty solid bike. I like it a lot more than my f-800 GS that I had. I love my 1986 XL 600R overall though. The best
Is there much more involved on DCT pump change? Thank you.
I would guess prob the same. Not sure though
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow thank you very much for your reply and thank you for uploading the video.
No problem. Good luck on the repair
Please do a video on how to bleed (burp) the coolant system 👍
You pretty much just run good bike while on its side stand for a few minutes or so. And that gets most of the air out. Put the cap on and then top the coolant bottle off.
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow how do I know if their is air in the system?
There shouldn't be. It will work its way out if there is a little bit. Not a big deal on these. Some Vehicles have bleeding ports on them. This does not.
@@NoNonsenseKnowHowone last question, does the engine need to be running? thank you very much for your quick response and helping me save a fortune, so much respect for you 👍
Yes generally you would run the engine after topping the coolant off and leave the cap off for a few minutes while it's running. and no prob!
Went out to check my weep hole and sure enough the tube is seeping. The early pump failure acts like electrolysis / cavitation between the dissimilar metals of the pump housing and impeller.
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Hi there fantastic vid. Can you do your new vid for the step by step. 🙏
Thanks. And yeah when I get around to replacing my pump I will do a more thorough step-by-step. Probably won't be anytime real soon though unfortunately
Sir I would like to say thanks any way. My Africa twin has done 23000 miles on the clock and it's now leaking. I've just ordered my part from partzilla. It's crazy I'm in the UK and the pump is 3 times more money then in America. In the UK the pump in US dollars $275.91. With the import charge and delivery I'm still saving the hell lot of money by ordering it from the US
@@SupremeRobocop No prob. Good luck on the repair! And crazy about the cost difference
Hello.The video is very nice.Congrutalations.My Crf 1000 2017 has oil leakage from the bleed pipe of the water pump.What it means?What should i do?Thank you.Sorry for my English,.Dimitris from Greece.
If it was me I probably wouldn't worry about it unless it's a large amount leaking
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow Thank you very much
i am much wiser now on how to do this job
good video but the sequence of tightening the bolts not followed anywhere. Never do it like that. don't warp that case!!
I've tightened probably thousands of covers, cylinder heads, and many other large surface components. Never had an issue
compared st1300, st1300 needs hydraulic press to changing oil seal. kk I think this type is more convenient for me.
Oh wow, yeah that sounds much worse.
Great job
Just found your channel and this was a great video! - My 2018 Africa twin video had some coolant on my skid plate (probably the size of a quarter or two..) after an hour long interstate ride...
Didn't think much of it. Just normal weeping? Bike temp gauge is still never jumping above three bars. Albeit the fans will kick on occasionally at a light. Haven't noticed this at all since putting a number of hard miles on the bike. I just recently got the bike back from a dealer while having a recall done and I asked + paid for them to "looked over" the bike and didn't mentioned anything about the coolant. Any measures I should take here?
Dont allow the bike to go for a prolonged time without a coolant fluid change. The thought is the degraded, corrosive coolant can make the seal more likely to fail and fail more quickly. No foolproof prevention methods though.
So ktm 1190 than . Thank God I didn't buy the africa twin that was sale locally. Did they fix this issue on 2020 model
Ford n/a 3.5 and the 3.7 have internal water pumps
Yo chris i just wanna say you are my role model bruv no cap
Dove trovo il numero di ricambio per revisionare la pompa acqua
Show us the in depth video
Will do! Plan on doing a step-by-step when I replace the pump in my bike
is this a prob on the dct?
WTF is going on with Honda motorcycle water pumps? Over on the CB500X, CBR500R, and Rebel forums, there are lots of people reporting similar issues -- premature failure of water pumps. I've had to replace the water pump on my 2015 CB500X no less than FIVE TIMES in 37,000 miles because it started dripping excessively, in my opinion. Now it seems the Africa Twin is similarly afflicted. What the heck!?!?
Yeah sucks that they have this issue. I mean luckily they're not blowing out all together and leaking coolant into the engine but still. A Honda water pump should last 100k
It seems you think everything is a terrible design. As the world's largest internal combusition engine manufacturer I'm pretty sure Honda engineers were strategic in their design. They've made a few motorcycles in their day. But then again you are a master mechanic and know everything.
Lol, and you had to like your own comment because nobody else will.
But on a serious note, you may be right that I had a slight attitude in the video. And I apologize for that. Its probably because I was surprised/frustrated to see a water pump fail at such low mileage and then to look at my bike and see it seeping as well. If you think Honda did a good job by putting the water pump inside of the engine then I'm not even going to try to argue with you. These days they engineer to save money, not build things that are bulletproof. Honda made their name back in the day. Quality is far less across the board from what I've seen it was in the 80s and 90s. You'll never change my mind. And I work on all sorts Honda's everyday. Anyway that's all I got. Good luck to you
Yeah you're right, probably not worth even responding to. I have a tough time ignoring ignorant comments though. So I just gave a piece of my mind via speak to text. ;) appreciate you having my back though.
This should be covered by Honda warranty ! Honda used to be good !
Haha! Love the video bro. The internets lied to me.
Thanks for shooting it! And, yeah yeah I bet you just skipped by the part that said you need a water pump too. lol joking. When you ordered the parts at the dealer, the parts guy should have recommended a pump as well. Send him this video.
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I like Suzuki
I also always wanted a atwin (shares some dna and honda magic with my Hawk GT) and I've got a couple friends with these new ones that love them....but man every time I have to work on a modern honda or watch a video about fixing them I am reminded that I won't buy anything they made past 1998 unless it's really cheap. Internal water pump, and a cheap junk one? For shame Honda.
Sucks that they are all crap you sure that the New 1 is not gone in 10k?
I'm thinking maybe spray some wd40 in the weep hole to help prevent the corrosion.
Engine ice coolant
They know what they made (Honda) bravo Honda.👎
Some of their bikes got issues with design. Cheap parts. African twin?. It wouldn't last long in the Nevada desert.