VP: I wish you hadn't said anything to Mrs. S.. OP/Me: You should be wishing that Mrs. S hadn't started this crap in the 1st place. Just exactly how ignorant is she.
I think the issue was he was probably tryna get MrsS to admit to shit so he could fire her but she went in knowing she was in trouble so didnt say anything
Because they are a power hungry teacher that is mad with seeing other parents care for their kids when back when they were a child they probably didn’t have the same treatment, so now they go about life thinking children should always obey, or they are just an asshole
I had bad nose bleeds and i felt them coming on and one time i ran out of class saying nose bleed and the teacher followed me and saw the blood it didnt stopped for 20 mins
VP: "I wish you hadn't told Mrs. S." Me: "It was either I take this issue to you, or to the school board to have her removed for trying to punish my child in the event of a medical issue. Would you rather I proceed to your school board and tell them of her actions, or will YOU handle the matter VP? Because either way, my son will not be going anywhere, and if this matter is pursued, then I can alert the media? Your choice."
Honestly, "I wish you didn't tell her." That says a lot. It makes me think that he was going to have her drop it this once and that there would be no consequences for the teacher who was basically ignoring a student's medical needs
lol totally NTA! why is the vp getting mad at OP for bringing up a real problem when medical attention was needed. If the that child would’ve gotten a hall pass he could’ve lost to much blood and pass out. Imagine then what the teacher and vice principal would’ve said “ oh if it was a real emergency you could’ve gone straight to the office” all these teachers need to be seriously emotionally and mentally evaluated to see if it’s okay to teach our children to become grown functioning adults because with these new generations there needs to be a real change.
I had a teacher in middle school who decided she hated me as I had health issues and missed classes for appointments out of town and treatments and all the other things that come with autoimmune conditions, so in all her infinite wisdom decided I was not allowed in her class room. She taught math and science for my entire grade. She did not get in trouble but she was also not allowed to fail me any of the times she tried. I did not go back to that school next year. Tried homeschool, mostly for health issues, surgeries sucks, but also not wanting to deal with the school anymore either.
NTA, it was a medical issue and a teacher who can't be understanding about medical issues shouldn't be teachers. She's lucky she didn't loose her job over this, and the fact that she not only doubled, but tripled down is a red flag. What else will she just refuse to be understanding about? Insulin? Epi-Pens? Cancer Medication?
NTA, I tell my kids there are 2 times to ignore a teacher and it's if they are having a medical situation or need to use the restroom. I also let my kids teachers know that I don't care about their policies for these events and will not have my children punished for either. I have had so many issues about them using the bathroom because my son has kidney problems and needed to go a lot. We had to get a doctor's note from his urologist and still had teachers who wouldn't allow him so I told him to walk out and go
Yes, the teacher needed to know where the kid was. That's why the nurse informed her. Everything else is a bad power play on the teachers side. She would no longer teach my kid. She unfit to teach anyone.
"He will attend lunch detention if you send me the justification for it in writing" - Boom, done. She either backs off or opens herself to be sued. Context on the suing part: although epistaxis isn't life threatening by itself, some people get light headed and can even faint from it. By forcing the child to be alone in the corridors more than it is absolutely needed she is endangering him since he can faint and hit his head.
Yea see this is where I would tell my kid "If It happens again in her class refuse to move, scream if you have to that you have to stay in class to avoid punishment" Literally make the entire schoolboard ask why a kid is bleeding and freaking out about being punished.
I get nosebleeds a lot. They were worse as a kid. Had a teacher call me a liar when I said I can't blow my nose or sniffle without a gusher. She made me blow my nose in class, I blew, both nostrils started bleeding, I just gave an "I told you so" look while not blocking my nose. Never saw her run so fast. She also quit at the end of the school year because every student absolutely hated her after that and openly ridiculed her for everything, and she couldn't take it anymore.
That is what happened but the woman is a bitch because she didn't know from the start. She just like being a tyrant to the people that she finds the lower herself. (Students) And it's not happy about the fact that she's being called out on it. To put it simply she is a bitch.
@@lingitsheshark I for one, find most of these stories through shorts. So I follow the link to the "full story" and often end up listening to part of it twice if I don't skip ahead. I appreciate people going out of their way to leave a timestamp comment for people like me.
Teacher is responsible for child... that means if he faints because of blood loss bevcause he went to her class first... she would be held responsible and in court she could get her teachnig licence suspended for endangering child....
This one's a bit nuanced. You are the not the asshole for telling your son no detention. You are RIGHT about that. HOWEVER, in my opinion you ARE the asshole for, after the meeting, telling the teacher essentially "I told you so". The issue was handled, the VP was on your side, and you had already got what you wanted, and you wisely got it all done behind the scenes. You ABSOLUTELY made the VP's job harder, which is why he wished that you hadn't said anything. You showed both your hand and the VPs hand. The only reason you could have possibly said that was to be smug, and let her know it was YOU who got this done. The VP could have told that crappy asshole teacher any little old white lie in the book to make things easier, making him seem more commanding and completely left you out of it. You emasculated him by undercutting his authority with his own staff. You made yourself look bad in this scenario. You are a great mom, who's teaching her kid the right lessons, and setting a good example. But set a good example by also teaching him NOT to twist the knife. It's how you make an enemy, like you have now done with that teacher.
I had sub in 5th grade that wouldn't let me leave class to go to the bathroom so I pissed myself in class. I went to the front office crying and they called my mom. The sub came down and argued with the principal, but the office lady got fed up and told her to shut up and go back to class because if she was still in there when my mom showed up the office lady was going to team up with my mom😅 after a 5 minute meeting with my mom the principal told me if i ever needed to leave class for any reason i could do so without getting in trouble...
Im having unknown medical issues and all i do is tell the teachers they are understanding most of them are im just tarified my seziurs are going to get worse thought doctors are saying i dont have them my mom has the same thing and they took forever to get dignosed and now theyvare saying it just sounds like im having ocular migraines but they last longer then ocular ones do hell i even went to an eye doctor she said i wasn't having ocular migraines because mine where lasting to long
Generations of kids have shown they can't be trusted to not try and ditch class so now rather than just going to the restroom when needed, or the nurse's office in this case, you have to ask permission and get a hall pass so that you can prove to any other teachers you might run into on the way there or back that you have permission to be out of class.
This is new to me. In my country we have to show the permission slip from the principal to the security who guards the School entrances in case we are leaving school due to some valid reasons. We don't need passes for using the toilet. There is no punishment for kids who come back late. We usually get 3 time-allotted breaks throughout the day to do our business. So there will not be many kids who would need the toilet break during class hours. If some kids need the break during an ongoing class the teacher sends one at a time.
VP: I wish you hadn't said anything to Mrs. S..
OP/Me: You should be wishing that Mrs. S hadn't started this crap in the 1st place. Just exactly how ignorant is she.
I think the issue was he was probably tryna get MrsS to admit to shit so he could fire her but she went in knowing she was in trouble so didnt say anything
NTA. Its not the child's fault? He was literally seeking medical help why they couldnt understand???
Because they are a power hungry teacher that is mad with seeing other parents care for their kids when back when they were a child they probably didn’t have the same treatment, so now they go about life thinking children should always obey, or they are just an asshole
@@cototototorra7106 yeah i have also seen some teachers like that. Forcing pupils to obey what they consider good but not even care about the pupils
I had bad nose bleeds and i felt them coming on and one time i ran out of class saying nose bleed and the teacher followed me and saw the blood it didnt stopped for 20 mins
@@plagueflower849 thats so bad. do you know why your nose bleed
Teacher is totally out of line
VP: "I wish you hadn't told Mrs. S."
Me: "It was either I take this issue to you, or to the school board to have her removed for trying to punish my child in the event of a medical issue. Would you rather I proceed to your school board and tell them of her actions, or will YOU handle the matter VP? Because either way, my son will not be going anywhere, and if this matter is pursued, then I can alert the media? Your choice."
👏🏻👏🏾👏🏻👏🏿👏🏽👏🏼WAY TO GO, MOM💪🏻‼️
@@l.dougherty7573 Not a mom yet, but thank you!
Honestly, "I wish you didn't tell her." That says a lot. It makes me think that he was going to have her drop it this once and that there would be no consequences for the teacher who was basically ignoring a student's medical needs
lol totally NTA! why is the vp getting mad at OP for bringing up a real problem when medical attention was needed. If the that child would’ve gotten a hall pass he could’ve lost to much blood and pass out. Imagine then what the teacher and vice principal would’ve said “ oh if it was a real emergency you could’ve gone straight to the office” all these teachers need to be seriously emotionally and mentally evaluated to see if it’s okay to teach our children to become grown functioning adults because with these new generations there needs to be a real change.
The teacher needs to be fired she’s a red flag
More than just a red flag, she’s a control freak and a sociopath
Obviously nta? That woman wanted to punish a kid for getting medical attention? No one hurts a kid more than an adult on a power trip.
I had a teacher in middle school who decided she hated me as I had health issues and missed classes for appointments out of town and treatments and all the other things that come with autoimmune conditions, so in all her infinite wisdom decided I was not allowed in her class room. She taught math and science for my entire grade. She did not get in trouble but she was also not allowed to fail me any of the times she tried. I did not go back to that school next year. Tried homeschool, mostly for health issues, surgeries sucks, but also not wanting to deal with the school anymore either.
NTA, it was a medical issue and a teacher who can't be understanding about medical issues shouldn't be teachers. She's lucky she didn't loose her job over this, and the fact that she not only doubled, but tripled down is a red flag. What else will she just refuse to be understanding about? Insulin? Epi-Pens? Cancer Medication?
I out loud said “he was getting medical attention you freak” so I think this guy was much nicer
NTA, I tell my kids there are 2 times to ignore a teacher and it's if they are having a medical situation or need to use the restroom. I also let my kids teachers know that I don't care about their policies for these events and will not have my children punished for either. I have had so many issues about them using the bathroom because my son has kidney problems and needed to go a lot. We had to get a doctor's note from his urologist and still had teachers who wouldn't allow him so I told him to walk out and go
Yes, the teacher needed to know where the kid was. That's why the nurse informed her.
Everything else is a bad power play on the teachers side. She would no longer teach my kid. She unfit to teach anyone.
"He will attend lunch detention if you send me the justification for it in writing" - Boom, done. She either backs off or opens herself to be sued.
Context on the suing part: although epistaxis isn't life threatening by itself, some people get light headed and can even faint from it. By forcing the child to be alone in the corridors more than it is absolutely needed she is endangering him since he can faint and hit his head.
Yea see this is where I would tell my kid "If It happens again in her class refuse to move, scream if you have to that you have to stay in class to avoid punishment" Literally make the entire schoolboard ask why a kid is bleeding and freaking out about being punished.
I get nosebleeds a lot. They were worse as a kid. Had a teacher call me a liar when I said I can't blow my nose or sniffle without a gusher. She made me blow my nose in class, I blew, both nostrils started bleeding, I just gave an "I told you so" look while not blocking my nose. Never saw her run so fast. She also quit at the end of the school year because every student absolutely hated her after that and openly ridiculed her for everything, and she couldn't take it anymore.
I don’t understand this. If it was so bad he had to go to the Nurse, couldn’t the nurse write a pass? He should not be doing detention at all.
That is what happened but the woman is a bitch because she didn't know from the start. She just like being a tyrant to the people that she finds the lower herself. (Students) And it's not happy about the fact that she's being called out on it. To put it simply she is a bitch.
VP: You shouldn’t have said anything to Mrs. S
Me: Well, you shouldn’t have hired an inconsiderate jackass in the first place
1:00 for people coming from shorts! Yw btw ;)
Thank you
My Thanks! Was hoping to find this!
Why?
@@lingitsheshark I for one, find most of these stories through shorts. So I follow the link to the "full story" and often end up listening to part of it twice if I don't skip ahead. I appreciate people going out of their way to leave a timestamp comment for people like me.
Thank you sweetness!!
NTA!!! Teachers need to have students’ best interests and welfare at heart
Once the nosebleed was under control the nurse should have contacted his teacher.
Skip detention like I did a lot
Teacher is responsible for child... that means if he faints because of blood loss bevcause he went to her class first... she would be held responsible and in court she could get her teachnig licence suspended for endangering child....
I’m so glad I didn’t go to school in the us.
This one's a bit nuanced. You are the not the asshole for telling your son no detention. You are RIGHT about that. HOWEVER, in my opinion you ARE the asshole for, after the meeting, telling the teacher essentially "I told you so". The issue was handled, the VP was on your side, and you had already got what you wanted, and you wisely got it all done behind the scenes. You ABSOLUTELY made the VP's job harder, which is why he wished that you hadn't said anything. You showed both your hand and the VPs hand. The only reason you could have possibly said that was to be smug, and let her know it was YOU who got this done. The VP could have told that crappy asshole teacher any little old white lie in the book to make things easier, making him seem more commanding and completely left you out of it. You emasculated him by undercutting his authority with his own staff. You made yourself look bad in this scenario. You are a great mom, who's teaching her kid the right lessons, and setting a good example. But set a good example by also teaching him NOT to twist the knife. It's how you make an enemy, like you have now done with that teacher.
I had sub in 5th grade that wouldn't let me leave class to go to the bathroom so I pissed myself in class. I went to the front office crying and they called my mom. The sub came down and argued with the principal, but the office lady got fed up and told her to shut up and go back to class because if she was still in there when my mom showed up the office lady was going to team up with my mom😅 after a 5 minute meeting with my mom the principal told me if i ever needed to leave class for any reason i could do so without getting in trouble...
So the teacher decided to skip class
Did his teacher ask for a hall pass before skipping out on teaching her next class? 🤨😂
1:00 for those that came from the short :3
Im having unknown medical issues and all i do is tell the teachers they are understanding most of them are im just tarified my seziurs are going to get worse thought doctors are saying i dont have them my mom has the same thing and they took forever to get dignosed and now theyvare saying it just sounds like im having ocular migraines but they last longer then ocular ones do hell i even went to an eye doctor she said i wasn't having ocular migraines because mine where lasting to long
NTA
What is a hall pass?
It allows you to leave class to go to the toilet or nurse
Generations of kids have shown they can't be trusted to not try and ditch class so now rather than just going to the restroom when needed, or the nurse's office in this case, you have to ask permission and get a hall pass so that you can prove to any other teachers you might run into on the way there or back that you have permission to be out of class.
This is new to me. In my country we have to show the permission slip from the principal to the security who guards the School entrances in case we are leaving school due to some valid reasons. We don't need passes for using the toilet. There is no punishment for kids who come back late. We usually get 3 time-allotted breaks throughout the day to do our business. So there will not be many kids who would need the toilet break during class hours. If some kids need the break during an ongoing class the teacher sends one at a time.
@karthikadevi6012 I don't know about other schools here in the uk but ours has just introduced this system this year