@samuelbell yes, she was manipulated and probably conditioned to be that way since childhood. But she's a grown a$$ woman now who had a great fiancee and friends that care for her. But she chose to throw all of them away to please those toxic people in her life. It should've been a wake up call when OP left and was made to face her family all alone (which left her in tears). She also chose to be a snake towards a friend who supported her. So, yes, she was manipulated, but she's a terrible person on her own as well.
It's not ridiculous. I dated a mousy girl once and did my best to help her become more assertive. As the relationship continued, she did become more assertive, but she only seemed to have the strength to say no to me, not to everyone else. I would imagine because she viewed me as "safe" to say no to (which I was; I respected her). When I noted this, she got defensive, and started acting out. I told her in no uncertain terms, "I will not be your emotional punching bag. Either you learn to say no to the people who are making you miserable, or I will say no to this relationship." She went and slept with a mutual friend, and my things were gone and her phone number blocked. She lived nearby, but I haven't seen her since, and it's been over two decades now. Not even sure if she's still alive.
Damn this woman really went so far to fuck her life in every possible way. Leaving à great guy for your awfull family is already bad enought. But cheating on your friends + support système and losing your job in the process. Man she kept gambling and kept losing
@@samuelbellNo. Stop right there! She was an adult and could make her own decisions. The family was horrible, but they didn't strip her down and force her to screw her friend's boyfriend. She did that on her own accord.
@@segas1354literally, is like having a really abusive parent and the other one doesn’t do anything about it because “I lov them!!!” Cowardice is as bad and even worse
@@samuelbell that is indeed horrible, but it was HER CHOICE to continue to seek her family's approval. She had the love and support of a good man and fine friends, but she chose to discard those FOR the abusive family. And the paradoxical thing is: if you don't respect her right to choose her abusive family over the non-abusive fiancée and her friends, you're no different than the abusive family that never gave her the choice either.
I hate that she decided to end herself, but I'm glad OP jumped out of the warzone before the fallout. Honestly it seems like he was the pin to the grenade that was her life and she was determined to pull it
Tltd: the girl prioritized her toxic family, OP broke up with her and moved out, she was cheating on him with another person from the friend group, that friend group broke down, she ended herself
Because of that; she chose her own fate and karma! I do not feel bad for her because she pushed everyone away who bent over backwards to help her but refused to cut off her toxic family! She chose to be beyond help! What someone said is that you cannot fix people only God did!
Nah she destroyed everything she had, it’s her own fault and she deserves the outcome, just not her taking her life that’s just her being a coward and not facing the music in my harsh opinion
You think taking your own life is cowardly ? If you had any idea the despair and strength it takes to do so you wouldn’t open your mouth ! Her family were the main cause of her problems, yes she made mistakes but no , she didn’t deserve to die . I’ve been there myself and believe me it takes guts to take that decision. She was obviously at rock bottom.
OP was a fool for not ending the relationship the moment she kicked him out. That lack of respect should have been the biggest sign. He had to stay in a hotel and he still believed there was a chance? People with deap-seated trauma have to WANT to deal with it themselves and be 100% committed. Same thing with people in abusive relationships - you can't force them to leave. OP is not in a position to help, and luckily he had not tied the knot with her so it is easier to move on.
I feel bad for him, not her. At some point you have to accept accountability for your actions. I have a family member who has screwed up more opportunities than you can imagine because he wants his daddy's love. I blamed his daddy for a long time and then came to realize it's him making the choices
NAH. She became just as abusive of a person as her family. Just to her own victim in her own way. Her taking her life was just another form of manipulation and not wanting to face consequences for her actions.
@@backpug1228 suicide is not manipulation in any way you are sick for even thinking so. People only do it when in a mindset of where either everything bad is to much or where they think the world would be better without them. Non of which is manipulation.
Right, you want to feel bad but I don't. She did it to herself. She made her life miserable all to please her toxic family. She ruined every relationship/friendship she had because her toxic family told her she can do whatever she wants.
Imagine trusting your own instincts enough to remove yourself from a toxic situations just in time to avoid the shit storm that was coming. OP was totally right to leave. That poor girl ruined her whole life to please people who used her just because they are "family".
At least from OP's telling, I think he handled that as clean as a person could. He saw an issue, he communicated it. He set a boundary. Gave her a chance after she initially apologized and they talked. And broke it off completely when she went right back to her family and wanted to break it off. I think he handled himself pretty well.
This is kinda an old story shown in several channels but the update 5 is new. I really don't feel sorry for a cheater like her that decided to take the easy way out after realizing how bad she failed in life and screwed anyone that cared for her. I feel sad for Op, I really hope he in therapy can heal from this shitshow.
@@samuelbellShe's not an abuse victim. She was a serial bad decision maker. Being abused isn't a get out of responsibility free card from stupid decisions and yes I know first hand what abuse is like. If at ANY point she decided to stop doubling down on bad decisions and got out of it, I would be sympathetic. She didn't. She decided to spread the misery instead. For that reason alone she deserves absolutely no sympathy
Ok, I can't stand for some of these comments. Yes, op is a doormat to her family, but everyone seems to ignore the effects of long-term abuse! She's not "letting it happen." she's terrified and needs help! I have a family just like this and it took my partner kicking them out and helping me say no before I was even ready to let go
They tried to help her! But at the end she still choose her family and she even had an affair with her best friend's boyfriend! Doesn't matter if she needs help or not if she is not willing to get helped!
And nothing of value was lost. Trash taking out the trash. OP, wish you a better partner in your future. You were a saint to put up with that cheating bore of a basket case for so long
I’ll be honest I thought this was gonna be like the nice story of they figure things out. 6:02 It’s until I made it to this point it’s just Wow just….WOW! 8:57 And now I’m here I already can guess …. This is a really sad story
Now...am.just confused..here the person the op was able to walk away and didnt break even after seeing the death of his ex but wht if she didn't cheat didn't do anything wrong and just the family manipulated her since the birth..in a way she couldnt deal with anymore..how do you help them?
Therapy , cutting off family , listening to many ppl telling you to cut the family off By surten age you also should know what's right and what's wrong and that you have to say no
Dude, she killed herself because you left and refused to come back. The "indifference" she expressed when he was there, picking up his stuff, was a blinding, silencing rage at him for wanting nothing to do with her despite being her financé just days prior. How the family treated her was an abusive level of toxic codependency, but she, as the victim, would never be able to see that. What he should've done was take her on a vacation, immediately, to get her away from them so she could gain a new perspective; seeing what life would be like without them. Instead, he -suggests- orders her to go full no contact and to live in _his_ home where she'll have no power/agency. Even when ignoring the situation, that's not a good look, especially when he has trouble with the opposite living arrangement. As for her cheating, I'm not sure her friend(s) were credible. Who admits to a ploy like that even after the fact? She seemed to have a pattern of lashing out when confronted but defending the problem so I think she was just desperate to get her love to care about her again, except he wouldn't, because he seems rather sociopathic; her feelings never really mattered to him. Everything only bothered him because of how it affected him, but he's saying/doing all the "right things" so it's hard to call him out on this. This poor woman was trapped in a loveless life and this guy really feels like he did the right thing by abandoning her, even though it's obvious all she wanted was his return and support. You killed her.
It's the right thing to do to order her to go NC with her family and isolate her from abuse so he can control her life. She clearly spiralled down when she was in control. It's good to have someone else control your life if they can make you better. It's just the matter of whether or not she'd let him. She didn't so she died. If she followed his orders, she might still be alive, getting great therapy, have good social support, heal, and live a happier and healthier life. She should've let him control her more. Since she didn't, he is under no obligation to accept abuse from her. It's right for him to abandon her to put himself first. He stopped himself from being a victim for longer and prevented himself from ending up like her, which, in your words, got to the point where she thinks abuse is okay. He intervened, set boundaries, tried to make it work, and eventually refused to be further abused. Him abandoning and trying to control her was the right thing to do. He tried to save her, but she was determined to sink.
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Absolutely ridiculous that she can stand up to OP for wanting her to be treated right but is a fricking door mat for the worst people
Bro has never heard of manipulation.
@samuelbell yes, she was manipulated and probably conditioned to be that way since childhood. But she's a grown a$$ woman now who had a great fiancee and friends that care for her. But she chose to throw all of them away to please those toxic people in her life. It should've been a wake up call when OP left and was made to face her family all alone (which left her in tears). She also chose to be a snake towards a friend who supported her. So, yes, she was manipulated, but she's a terrible person on her own as well.
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Now with the ending we know how, she truly never had any respect for anybody, not her fiancé, not her best friend
It's not ridiculous. I dated a mousy girl once and did my best to help her become more assertive. As the relationship continued, she did become more assertive, but she only seemed to have the strength to say no to me, not to everyone else. I would imagine because she viewed me as "safe" to say no to (which I was; I respected her). When I noted this, she got defensive, and started acting out. I told her in no uncertain terms, "I will not be your emotional punching bag. Either you learn to say no to the people who are making you miserable, or I will say no to this relationship."
She went and slept with a mutual friend, and my things were gone and her phone number blocked. She lived nearby, but I haven't seen her since, and it's been over two decades now. Not even sure if she's still alive.
Damn this woman really went so far to fuck her life in every possible way. Leaving à great guy for your awfull family is already bad enought. But cheating on your friends + support système and losing your job in the process.
Man she kept gambling and kept losing
She was manipulated by her family, she was manipulated by them her whole life, they probably manipulated her to do that.
@@samuelbellstill does not excuse her actions she knew what she was doing was wrong and messed up her life
@@samuelbellNo. Stop right there! She was an adult and could make her own decisions.
The family was horrible, but they didn't strip her down and force her to screw her friend's boyfriend. She did that on her own accord.
@@segas1354literally, is like having a really abusive parent and the other one doesn’t do anything about it because “I lov them!!!” Cowardice is as bad and even worse
@@samuelbell that is indeed horrible, but it was HER CHOICE to continue to seek her family's approval. She had the love and support of a good man and fine friends, but she chose to discard those FOR the abusive family. And the paradoxical thing is: if you don't respect her right to choose her abusive family over the non-abusive fiancée and her friends, you're no different than the abusive family that never gave her the choice either.
I hate that she decided to end herself, but I'm glad OP jumped out of the warzone before the fallout. Honestly it seems like he was the pin to the grenade that was her life and she was determined to pull it
She fumbled her hole life. Good career, amazing fiancé, and a large supportive friend group
Tltd: the girl prioritized her toxic family, OP broke up with her and moved out, she was cheating on him with another person from the friend group, that friend group broke down, she ended herself
Because of that; she chose her own fate and karma! I do not feel bad for her because she pushed everyone away who bent over backwards to help her but refused to cut off her toxic family! She chose to be beyond help! What someone said is that you cannot fix people only God did!
turns out she was just like her family. it’s hard to feel bad for her
Nah she destroyed everything she had, it’s her own fault and she deserves the outcome, just not her taking her life that’s just her being a coward and not facing the music in my harsh opinion
It’s such a sad story because literally EVERYONE had her back but she decided some assholes were worth it
To be honest I don’t feel bad she ruin her own life
@@cototototorra7106but in the end it turned out: she was just like her family, an AH herself
You think taking your own life is cowardly ? If you had any idea the despair and strength it takes to do so you wouldn’t open your mouth ! Her family were the main cause of her problems, yes she made mistakes but no , she didn’t deserve to die . I’ve been there myself and believe me it takes guts to take that decision. She was obviously at rock bottom.
@@ublu3631 you would think she would know better
OP was a fool for not ending the relationship the moment she kicked him out. That lack of respect should have been the biggest sign. He had to stay in a hotel and he still believed there was a chance? People with deap-seated trauma have to WANT to deal with it themselves and be 100% committed. Same thing with people in abusive relationships - you can't force them to leave. OP is not in a position to help, and luckily he had not tied the knot with her so it is easier to move on.
Nah she really said "lets go gambling *dindiingdingding* aw man *dingdingdingding* aw man"
Like real gambling the only winner was the house because now it belongs to her abusers, she is probably not even gonna have a funeral
@@cototototorra7106 womp womp
OP dodged a whole fucking planet by not marrying this girl.. oh my god
I feel so bad for her and him her family manipulated her causing her to end her own life
I feel bad for him, not her. At some point you have to accept accountability for your actions.
I have a family member who has screwed up more opportunities than you can imagine because he wants his daddy's love.
I blamed his daddy for a long time and then came to realize it's him making the choices
NAH. She became just as abusive of a person as her family. Just to her own victim in her own way. Her taking her life was just another form of manipulation and not wanting to face consequences for her actions.
@@backpug1228how much you bet the suicide notes are either her dumping the blame onto anybody else but not her
@@backpug1228 suicide is not manipulation in any way you are sick for even thinking so. People only do it when in a mindset of where either everything bad is to much or where they think the world would be better without them. Non of which is manipulation.
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0:41 for shorts
Ty bro
Thank you man
Thanks
I almost felt bad when i heard she took her own life
Right, you want to feel bad but I don't. She did it to herself. She made her life miserable all to please her toxic family. She ruined every relationship/friendship she had because her toxic family told her she can do whatever she wants.
Same but that was until I heard the part of the affair...
The reason they liked him more is obvious he didn't cause waves between her and them
Damn he dodged a whole a** bomb😅
Imagine trusting your own instincts enough to remove yourself from a toxic situations just in time to avoid the shit storm that was coming. OP was totally right to leave. That poor girl ruined her whole life to please people who used her just because they are "family".
i can just imagine the family rolling their eyes as they see there dead daughter
That took a turn
At least from OP's telling, I think he handled that as clean as a person could. He saw an issue, he communicated it. He set a boundary. Gave her a chance after she initially apologized and they talked. And broke it off completely when she went right back to her family and wanted to break it off. I think he handled himself pretty well.
This is kinda an old story shown in several channels but the update 5 is new.
I really don't feel sorry for a cheater like her that decided to take the easy way out after realizing how bad she failed in life and screwed anyone that cared for her.
I feel sad for Op, I really hope he in therapy can heal from this shitshow.
Yeah
Wow you have no empathy for an abuse victim
@@samuelbell she was a cheater and deserves no empathy
@@samuelbellwow you don't realise a grown ass woman can make her own decisions
@@samuelbellShe's not an abuse victim. She was a serial bad decision maker.
Being abused isn't a get out of responsibility free card from stupid decisions and yes I know first hand what abuse is like.
If at ANY point she decided to stop doubling down on bad decisions and got out of it, I would be sympathetic.
She didn't. She decided to spread the misery instead. For that reason alone she deserves absolutely no sympathy
I wish I did this with my fiance, now wife. I just tried to let her go through her process and it ruined both of our lives and lifelong relationship.
Ok, I can't stand for some of these comments. Yes, op is a doormat to her family, but everyone seems to ignore the effects of long-term abuse! She's not "letting it happen." she's terrified and needs help! I have a family just like this and it took my partner kicking them out and helping me say no before I was even ready to let go
They tried to help her! But at the end she still choose her family and she even had an affair with her best friend's boyfriend! Doesn't matter if she needs help or not if she is not willing to get helped!
When she insulted him when he picked up his stuff I would have said "tell your mom she wrote a great speech"
Wow. I did not expect that ending 😢.
Bro lost absolutely nothing of value.
what did the note say?
So spoilers she took her life and cheatef on his New bf and the friends that were supporting him
Wow so sad no self worth
well that’s was absolutely crazy
Smoking that pack 🚬🚬🚬🚬🚬
And nothing of value was lost. Trash taking out the trash. OP, wish you a better partner in your future. You were a saint to put up with that cheating bore of a basket case for so long
He needs some serious therapy first. I'm sure he knows he's not responsible in any way, but logic doesn't always win out
I’ll be honest I thought this was gonna be like the nice story of they figure things out.
6:02
It’s until I made it to this point it’s just
Wow just….WOW!
8:57
And now I’m here I already can guess ….
This is a really sad story
In the end, it’s just I am so sorry for him
Disco elysium mentioned :3 !1!1!!!
What does NC mean?
No contact
L family
Bro is falling of man bc of the gay vid
Which video
The vid when he sad Im straight but fell in love with my gay bestfriend
@@RonaldoJr-vu6qb oh
@@Thehistorygeographyandflagnerdthanks for the shout-out
@@RonaldoJr-vu6qb huh ok but what shoutout
Very sigma channel ngl
Now...am.just confused..here the person the op was able to walk away and didnt break even after seeing the death of his ex but wht if she didn't cheat didn't do anything wrong and just the family manipulated her since the birth..in a way she couldnt deal with anymore..how do you help them?
Therapy , cutting off family , listening to many ppl telling you to cut the family off
By surten age you also should know what's right and what's wrong and that you have to say no
Psych, I was joking
Crazy story the craziest story i ever heard and i seen so many reddit story like my girl friend disappear and married my brother
5:39 just said this for no reason
I was waiting to see what would y’all say but nobody replied so yeah
Dang-
Ok but like wtf?
12 views 1 min ago, bro fell off
Yeah
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Annoying comment
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Woman moment
FOURTH
No, but your fifth 🥈+🥉
Second 🥈
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Dude, she killed herself because you left and refused to come back.
The "indifference" she expressed when he was there, picking up his stuff, was a blinding, silencing rage at him for wanting nothing to do with her despite being her financé just days prior.
How the family treated her was an abusive level of toxic codependency, but she, as the victim, would never be able to see that. What he should've done was take her on a vacation, immediately, to get her away from them so she could gain a new perspective; seeing what life would be like without them.
Instead, he -suggests- orders her to go full no contact and to live in _his_ home where she'll have no power/agency. Even when ignoring the situation, that's not a good look, especially when he has trouble with the opposite living arrangement.
As for her cheating, I'm not sure her friend(s) were credible. Who admits to a ploy like that even after the fact? She seemed to have a pattern of lashing out when confronted but defending the problem so I think she was just desperate to get her love to care about her again, except he wouldn't, because he seems rather sociopathic; her feelings never really mattered to him. Everything only bothered him because of how it affected him, but he's saying/doing all the "right things" so it's hard to call him out on this.
This poor woman was trapped in a loveless life and this guy really feels like he did the right thing by abandoning her, even though it's obvious all she wanted was his return and support.
You killed her.
It's the right thing to do to order her to go NC with her family and isolate her from abuse so he can control her life. She clearly spiralled down when she was in control. It's good to have someone else control your life if they can make you better. It's just the matter of whether or not she'd let him. She didn't so she died. If she followed his orders, she might still be alive, getting great therapy, have good social support, heal, and live a happier and healthier life. She should've let him control her more.
Since she didn't, he is under no obligation to accept abuse from her. It's right for him to abandon her to put himself first. He stopped himself from being a victim for longer and prevented himself from ending up like her, which, in your words, got to the point where she thinks abuse is okay. He intervened, set boundaries, tried to make it work, and eventually refused to be further abused.
Him abandoning and trying to control her was the right thing to do. He tried to save her, but she was determined to sink.
Just bc she was abused doesn't mean he should have get abused by her
who let you back in the house?