Ha ha ha, then in the middle of the song you can turn the guitar upside down and shake it along with the tempo of the drummer until the pick falls out and people will think it's part of the show ... 😆
That is known as the gypsy rite-of-passage, if you can successfully get a pick out of the guitar in less than 5 minutes, you are considered a "Djangoist" or you have gained your "Reinhardt-certification"
Anytime I hear and see him play instantly make me happy. Not only is it a pleasure for my ears, seeing how happy, and how much he enjoys what he plays, makes me doubly happy!🌞
As a forever learning guitarist who was always intimidated by this style and level of playing, you have not only made it seem attainable, but also extremely fun. I hope to be as fluid a player as yourself one day. Much love from the USA
Think the o-whole is louder because it sacrifices low frequencies. So, back in the day, when amplification was a problem the o-hole was the soloist's first choice. But to my ears the d-hole sounds warmer and more ballanced. If your style goes a little beyond an exact Django replication I'd recomment the d-hole (wich, btw, still sounds a whole lot like Django ...)
This guy is definitely a major talent, one of the best out there. I never appreciated any form of jazz til now......and now I'm thinking on getting a gypsy guitar
Ditto! I just purchased an O hole and thinning out my herd to look for a D hole. Joscho and his crew have been instrumental in bringing this music to life and I am thankful for their talent. ❤
In my OPINION… The D hole guitar has a flatter sound with more string 'brass' (or buzz) and a much fuller (pronounced) 'bass' end, and the and O hole has a rounder sound on each string (closer to that of a nylon string classical guitar) with less buzz and bass. Because of its fuller and more distributed sound, the D hole is typically used more often for 'rhythm' guitar work (the buzz or brightness helps to promote the comping rhythm and the bass helps to create a fuller alternating bass & chord accompaniment). While the O hole may have less of a fuller range, it has a much more focused 'top end' sound, which can be better suited for a lot of 'lead' guitar work -- which would have been an important feature in night clubs well before amplification of the guitar was even possible. Having said that though, I prefer to hear two guitarists each use a different guitar and then freely trade the lead and rhythm parts back and forth with one another to really showcase the complete range of sounds that these two guitar formats can accomplish with this style of music. As a guitarist, you may find that you have or develop a preference that’s based on either a sound that you experience when you play the guitar (what YOU hear from mainly the guitar's body) or from what your audience hears (from their perspective of the sound hole). There's no right or wrong answer here... it is very much a personal bias of which sound you're trying to hear for yourself or present to the listener. Having played both, I still 'personally' prefer the D hole for the fuller range of sound.... but that's just my own bias. I suggest that you try out both for yourself to find out which one works best for you. Then buy one and never look back, because there is simply nothing like playing either one of these guitars (even for other styles of music, such as jazz, bluegrass, Dixieland, country & western, folk, etc.).
Hey from Milwaukee Wisconsin! My Gypsy Jazz teacher Scott told me the D Hole design was also to accommodate a internal resonator back in the day which blew my mind! Can’t imagine how heavy that was.
Yes, that's true and you can still find then online but they had a problem staying in place and could drop into the hole or rattle around inside the guitar... so, it didn't really catch on when guitar amplification was invented as an alternative method of producing a larger volume of sound.
Joscho, sharing your swing & jazz guitar style has inspired me to advance. I have known Lew London for many years. He plays very much in the same idiom. This is a style that takes alot of proficiency to master. Henceforth a treasure to hear. Now I can say I have two very inspirational mentors. You & Lew London. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Jim Silk
I like both guitars. I prefer when you play these acoustic qypsy guitars before the electric guitars you sometimes play. Your type of playing and musicality really shines on the gypsy guitars!
It was so interesting to hear you play the two different styles, D hole and oval, back to back. I feel now I understand a little bit more about why people might prefer one style over another. Once I learn a bit more and get more experience, I hope to try them out myself someday and see which I like best. Thank you.
My favourite channel...I just wish I could harness the controlled aggression in the attack. I don't usually use a pick so I have to relearn. Fun though 🙂
Get the right (thick and un-bendable) pick that's specifically designed for this guitar, not just any standard guitar pick.. it makes all the difference in being able to attack the strings with full force.
Die Gitarre mit dem ovalen Loch hat zwar eine ungewöhnlich lange Mensur, dafür einen schmalen Hals, was wichtiger für mich ist. Deshalb komme ich mit der Gitarre mit dem ovalen Loch besser zurecht. Ich kenne Kollegen und Kolleginnen mit grösseren Händen, die die Gitarre mit dem D-Loch vorziehen. Aus ergonomischen Gründen. Wir alle verwenden 11er Argentine-Saiten (Stahl, nicht Nylon). Dass der Punkt beim 10. statt beim 9. Bund ist, nehme ich als Herausforderung etwas flexibler zu werden.
I just discovered Joscho’s new album the other day, excellent and beautiful work as always! So glad to see you networking on here for all of us to gain insight on someone who truly understands music :)
I bought an O hole because I liked the esthetics better. The difference regarding both models that I could find, except the hole, was the D hole models had a shorter scale length. The scale on the O hole is a pretty tall order...
A good repairman or luthier will be able to remove the 10th fret marker and install one at the 9th. I've had this done to my guitar, and you wouldn't know that there was ever a marker dot at the 10th fret. Firstly, the 9th and 10th frets were taken out. The dot was removed, and a strip of wood the same width as the hole left by the dot was then cut out, right up to the fret slots. A piece of matching wood was then glued in, levelled off flush with the fingerboard, and the frets reinstated. This avoids using a circular wooden plug to fill the hole left by removal of the dot, which would be visible no matter how well done. Gluing in a strip of wood means that the join is parallel with the grain of the fingerboard, and is virtually undetectable.
what's you call the D hole, was actually call " Big Mouth " ( grande bouche ) in French and the other " Small Mouth " ( petite bouche ), Selmer was very famous also for there Saxophone and other brass horn.
in addition to sound preferences ,the sound hole is the weaker point of a guitar, take in account the weather of the country in which the instrument must survive.
Just a tip. I only found out this guitar exists today. I am seeing other comments like this aroung youtube. I went to yoursite and found nothing for beginers. It woudld be great if you had a fact sheet that peple could download for giving an email address. Guitar makers, types and styles. This would build your list and offer something for newbies. As it stands I cannot even find teh brand of teh guotar you are holding in this video. No one mentions its name but i have seen the same logo. So pehaps offer something for people like me who did not even know thee was such a thing as a gypsy jazz guitar. Great video btw, im just staying take a step back even before which sound hole. Thanks
What strings do you use on your stage guitar? To my ears, they sound less metallic and bell-like and more like nylon strings - a warmer, more sensous sound almost like a spanish guitar (but with the bending and vibrato possibilities you don't have with nylon strings).
I'm loving gypsy guitar and want to buy a guitar specifically for it but buying a gypsy guitar where I live is SUPER EXPENSIVE, are there any other types of guitars that can work well in the genre, such as archtops or something?
I tried the Eastman Dm-1 in one store in Berlin and I was disappointed. Very slow action, the build was feeling mediocre and that for eleven hundred euro. Hope next time I will get to try something better. Until that I will stick to my Epiphone Broadway.
Hallo Korsaro, das habe ich mich auch gefragt und dann festgestellt: Das kannst du selber ändern, über die beiden Icons Untertitel und Einstellungen. Dann bekommst das Video ohne Untertitel oder auch mit automatisch generierten deutschen Untertiteln.
Hallo Korsaro! Richtig, die englischen Untertitel kannst Du, falls es Dich stört, über den UA-cam Player deaktivieren. Da die große Mehrzahl der Kanal-Abonnenten nicht deutschsprachig ist, haben wir uns dafür entschieden den Kanal auf englisch zu führen.
Vielleicht gibt es deshalb nur wenige Deutsche, die sich deine Videos ansehen. Nicht jeder kann Englisch so gut verstehen, dass er komplexe Konzepte (wie Lektionen) in einer Sprache lernt, die nicht seine eigene ist. Es scheint mir logisch. Lesen ist eine andere Sache. Viele Grüße aus Berlin
One important difference is that it’s a lot harder to get your pick out if you drop it in an O hole guitar. :)
There's a cat flap at the back to get it out.LOL
Ha ha ha, then in the middle of the song you can turn the guitar upside down and shake it along with the tempo of the drummer until the pick falls out and people will think it's part of the show ... 😆
That is known as the gypsy rite-of-passage, if you can successfully get a pick out of the guitar in less than 5 minutes, you are considered a "Djangoist" or you have gained your "Reinhardt-certification"
But the balancing factor is that it is much harder to drop it in in the first place
@@robadobflob3405 Excellent point!
Joscho, listening to you play over the years has helped lift me from a state of depression, and I just wanted to say thank you :)
Anytime I hear and see him play instantly make me happy. Not only is it a pleasure for my ears, seeing how happy, and how much he enjoys what he plays, makes me doubly happy!🌞
As a forever learning guitarist who was always intimidated by this style and level of playing, you have not only made it seem attainable, but also extremely fun. I hope to be as fluid a player as yourself one day. Much love from the USA
Well he putted me in a total state of depression in regard to my guitar playing.
Music heals things that medicine never will.
I feel the opposite as listening to him play quickly makes me realize how shitty of a player I am.
Think the o-whole is louder because it sacrifices low frequencies. So, back in the day, when amplification was a problem the o-hole was the soloist's first choice. But to my ears the d-hole sounds warmer and more ballanced. If your style goes a little beyond an exact Django replication I'd recomment the d-hole (wich, btw, still sounds a whole lot like Django ...)
nice , great comment bro
This guy is definitely a major talent, one of the best out there.
I never appreciated any form of jazz til now......and now I'm thinking on getting a gypsy guitar
Ditto! I just purchased an O hole and thinning out my herd to look for a D hole. Joscho and his crew have been instrumental in bringing this music to life and I am thankful for their talent. ❤
In my OPINION… The D hole guitar has a flatter sound with more string 'brass' (or buzz) and a much fuller (pronounced) 'bass' end, and the and O hole has a rounder sound on each string (closer to that of a nylon string classical guitar) with less buzz and bass.
Because of its fuller and more distributed sound, the D hole is typically used more often for 'rhythm' guitar work (the buzz or brightness helps to promote the comping rhythm and the bass helps to create a fuller alternating bass & chord accompaniment). While the O hole may have less of a fuller range, it has a much more focused 'top end' sound, which can be better suited for a lot of 'lead' guitar work -- which would have been an important feature in night clubs well before amplification of the guitar was even possible.
Having said that though, I prefer to hear two guitarists each use a different guitar and then freely trade the lead and rhythm parts back and forth with one another to really showcase the complete range of sounds that these two guitar formats can accomplish with this style of music.
As a guitarist, you may find that you have or develop a preference that’s based on either a sound that you experience when you play the guitar (what YOU hear from mainly the guitar's body) or from what your audience hears (from their perspective of the sound hole). There's no right or wrong answer here... it is very much a personal bias of which sound you're trying to hear for yourself or present to the listener.
Having played both, I still 'personally' prefer the D hole for the fuller range of sound.... but that's just my own bias. I suggest that you try out both for yourself to find out which one works best for you. Then buy one and never look back, because there is simply nothing like playing either one of these guitars (even for other styles of music, such as jazz, bluegrass, Dixieland, country & western, folk, etc.).
Thanks!
Hey from Milwaukee Wisconsin!
My Gypsy Jazz teacher Scott told me the D Hole design was also to accommodate a internal resonator back in the day which blew my mind! Can’t imagine how heavy that was.
Yes, that's true and you can still find then online but they had a problem staying in place and could drop into the hole or rattle around inside the guitar... so, it didn't really catch on when guitar amplification was invented as an alternative method of producing a larger volume of sound.
@Syd McCreath No to what?
Great information! I've always wondered about the difference between these two guitars. Thank you Joscho for taking the time to do this video!
i love the way the oval hole style sounds for rhythm playing. it has a bit more of a "ka-chunk" to it in my opinion
Could you do a side-by-side playing the exact same examples? It'd be great to hear the tonal differences in range between them.
Joscho, sharing your swing & jazz guitar style has inspired me to advance. I have known Lew London for many years. He plays very much in the same idiom. This is a style that takes alot of proficiency to master. Henceforth a treasure to hear. Now I can say I have two very inspirational mentors. You & Lew London. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Jim Silk
I like both guitars. I prefer when you play these acoustic qypsy guitars before the electric guitars you sometimes play. Your type of playing and musicality really shines on the gypsy guitars!
Oscar Aleman said there was nothing like his Selmer D hole model, unique guitar
Super Video, danke Joscho,
It was so interesting to hear you play the two different styles, D hole and oval, back to back. I feel now I understand a little bit more about why people might prefer one style over another. Once I learn a bit more and get more experience, I hope to try them out myself someday and see which I like best. Thank you.
0:26 this impro is awesome !
Thank you,Joscho!!!
My favourite channel...I just wish I could harness the controlled aggression in the attack. I don't usually use a pick so I have to relearn. Fun though 🙂
Get the right (thick and un-bendable) pick that's specifically designed for this guitar, not just any standard guitar pick.. it makes all the difference in being able to attack the strings with full force.
Joscho!! Saludos desde México! MX,
Sin duda alguna eres una gran influencia e ídolo!
As a non gypsy jazz player, I prefer the O shape because it´s the sound of the voodoo vince soundtrack. :)
Thank you very much Joscho 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
🔥🎸🔥
Great playing!
Man this guy can play.
GENIUS BROTHER THANKS!
Die Gitarre mit dem ovalen Loch hat zwar eine ungewöhnlich lange Mensur, dafür einen schmalen Hals, was wichtiger für mich ist. Deshalb komme ich mit der Gitarre mit dem ovalen Loch besser zurecht. Ich kenne Kollegen und Kolleginnen mit grösseren Händen, die die Gitarre mit dem D-Loch vorziehen. Aus ergonomischen Gründen.
Wir alle verwenden 11er Argentine-Saiten (Stahl, nicht Nylon).
Dass der Punkt beim 10. statt beim 9. Bund ist, nehme ich als Herausforderung etwas flexibler zu werden.
I just discovered Joscho’s new album the other day, excellent and beautiful work as always! So glad to see you networking on here for all of us to gain insight on someone who truly understands music :)
The D hole is called Guitare à grand bouche, & the Oval hole is called Guitare à petite bouche.
* "à grandE bouche"
i got d hole altamira and i am happy , great company to my furch OM.
Master guitarist
Great video. Helped me make my decision. Thank you Sir!
I bought an O hole because I liked the esthetics better. The difference regarding both models that I could find, except the hole, was the D hole models had a shorter scale length. The scale on the O hole is a pretty tall order...
Your playing is incredible. 🙏
One of my students bought a D hole that had a position marker on the 10th fret instead on the 9th. I couldn't play it. It completely messed me up!
My O hole is the same. Goes with the style 😁
I just recently bought an O hole and the position marker is at the 10th fret, it messed me up too.
Where can I get a ALL WOOD WITH WESTERN POSITION MARKERS?
A good repairman or luthier will be able to remove the 10th fret marker and install one at the 9th. I've had this done to my guitar, and you wouldn't know that there was ever a marker dot at the 10th fret. Firstly, the 9th and 10th frets were taken out. The dot was removed, and a strip of wood the same width as the hole left by the dot was then cut out, right up to the fret slots. A piece of matching wood was then glued in, levelled off flush with the fingerboard, and the frets reinstated. This avoids using a circular wooden plug to fill the hole left by removal of the dot, which would be visible no matter how well done. Gluing in a strip of wood means that the join is parallel with the grain of the fingerboard, and is virtually undetectable.
what's you call the D hole, was actually call " Big Mouth " ( grande bouche ) in French and the other " Small Mouth " ( petite bouche ), Selmer was very famous also for there Saxophone and other brass horn.
Sweet Georgia 1:38. In Argentina The Argentine Django Reinhardt " Oscar Aleman Had The D Model Macaferri
in addition to sound preferences ,the sound hole is the weaker point of a guitar, take in account the weather of the country in which the instrument must survive.
Thank you!
And of course Joscho has to play the Minor Blues run the hardest way. :)
Thank's a lot...
What do you think about Aria mm15 & mm20, which is better according to your experience please ?
Regards
Also the D hole is easier to play since the scale is shorter, in the oval hole you have to stretch your fingers a bit more hahah
what do you use to amplify the guitar? mobile pick up or? Thanks fort you reply
What piece are you playing with the D-hole guitar? Its beautiful
Gorgeous!!!!!!!!!
Witch guitar would U choose to busk as a rythm guitar with a swing duo (guitar, trumpet and vocals)???
Either oval or D shape, they are both sexy acoustic guitar bodies. I love my oval hole selmer copy.
Las cuerdas son de acero o de nylon ???
Just a tip. I only found out this guitar exists today. I am seeing other comments like this aroung youtube. I went to yoursite and found nothing for beginers. It woudld be great if you had a fact sheet that peple could download for giving an email address. Guitar makers, types and styles. This would build your list and offer something for newbies. As it stands I cannot even find teh brand of teh guotar you are holding in this video. No one mentions its name but i have seen the same logo. So pehaps offer something for people like me who did not even know thee was such a thing as a gypsy jazz guitar. Great video btw, im just staying take a step back even before which sound hole. Thanks
What strings do you use on your stage guitar? To my ears, they sound less metallic and bell-like and more like nylon strings - a warmer, more sensous sound almost like a spanish guitar (but with the bending and vibrato possibilities you don't have with nylon strings).
Marvellous and very well explained. Martin Schmidt-Hahn with his swing- clarinet-sound could fit as well
where can i buy this
БРАВО !!! ЛУЧШЕМУ ДЖИПСИ ДЖАЗ ГИТАРИСТУ !
The D hole seem to have better definition to my ears. The O hole seem to have a little bit of a muffled sound.
What about scale length? 650 or 670?
I like using Thomastik Jazz Swing Flatwounds to save the frets from scratches
Joscho thank you for all the very useful information 👍 The brand of guitars you use in the video?
Hey! It’s Volkert Guitars!
Thank you👍
wow you're good.
I'm loving gypsy guitar and want to buy a guitar specifically for it but buying a gypsy guitar where I live is SUPER EXPENSIVE, are there any other types of guitars that can work well in the genre, such as archtops or something?
What's the brand of these guitars ?
WHAT IS THIS PICK UP PLEAS ???
The D Holes are louder for the player, not necessary louder for the listeners
Where can I get a ALL WOOD WITH WESTERN POSITION MARKERS?
0:13 what song is it ? That’s something familiar but I can’t remember
I founded out. It’s called “blues en mineur”
what models are these exactly ???
We’re you playing all of me in this video? Also can you do another all of me video?
I tried the Eastman Dm-1 in one store in Berlin and I was disappointed. Very slow action, the build was feeling mediocre and that for eleven hundred euro. Hope next time I will get to try something better. Until that I will stick to my Epiphone Broadway.
With your ability it might make quite a difference, but for beginners no difference
...just wondered if the golpeadors on these guitars is an added feature? Cheers,
What about F-hole guitar? Like the electric jazz guitar 🎸
The D-hole Selmer goes for a lot of money; that's a $15,000 guitar!
Top 👍
Do you envision those guitar being played in other music styles, jazz, blues, country or other. For instance how do the sound fingerstyle ?
Ok, so I practice first and THEN I buy the Guitar! ... no wait?
So a smaller soundhole makes the guitar louder?
what about No-hole guitar? lol :D
When did they stop calling them Manouche and Petit Bouche?
Grande Bouche vs. Petite Bouche.
The main advantage of the D hole is the ease of storing a pickled cheese sandwich.
😂😂😂
Q: Which gyutar should I choose
A: (3.5 minutes later) I don't know. Ask an expert.
Well, now I know how to pronounce his name lol
Ich frage mich warum du nicht auf Deutsch sprichst...und dann mit englischen Untertitel. Das wäre korrekter
Hallo Korsaro, das habe ich mich auch gefragt und dann festgestellt: Das kannst du selber ändern, über die beiden Icons Untertitel und Einstellungen. Dann bekommst das Video ohne Untertitel oder auch mit automatisch generierten deutschen Untertiteln.
Hallo Korsaro! Richtig, die englischen Untertitel kannst Du, falls es Dich stört, über den UA-cam Player deaktivieren. Da die große Mehrzahl der Kanal-Abonnenten nicht deutschsprachig ist, haben wir uns dafür entschieden den Kanal auf englisch zu führen.
Vielleicht gibt es deshalb nur wenige Deutsche, die sich deine Videos ansehen. Nicht jeder kann Englisch so gut verstehen, dass er komplexe Konzepte (wie Lektionen) in einer Sprache lernt, die nicht seine eigene ist. Es scheint mir logisch. Lesen ist eine andere Sache.
Viele Grüße aus Berlin
Hey Beavis.. Huh huh. He said D hole.. huh huh..
Possible to play this style of music on a flamenco guitar?
thank you!