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i know banda leased out this design to a company called thunderball aka "deejay led " which makes banda Eq that the same a clarion eqs755 also they make banda speakers and drivers also i think there returned items rebranded but don't quote me on that
My buddy used to own a stereo shop called Super Sounds…he was one of the top Lanzar dealers…I remember going to the factory in Chatsworth Ca to pickup their Hearst demo vehicle to take to shows….fun times and great memories….
Armchair EE nerd warning: The TO-247 package was designed to carry more silicon. More silicon means more current carrying ability, and probably better heat dissipation. At more "normal" power levels (say 25 to 300 watts RMS), either the '247 or the '220 would probably be fine, but at 3- to 4-thousand watts, I'd definitely want the bigger package. Heck, I'd love to see someone bring back the TO-3 package for applications like this one! 👍
@@rgstever Absolutely. I was mostly commenting on the dissipation of the package itself - larger surface area generally means lower thermal resistance. What sort of designs do you embark in?
I really miss my real old-school Lanzar OptiDrive Plus "American Crafted Performance" amps that were made in the USA back in the 90s. These were real amps back in the day, although I never understood the hard-wired power and ground vs terminals. Had a 500 and 2x Lanzar Pro 12" subs and my car was BUMPIN'
I've always liked Lanzar. I still have three Optidrive 2500s powering three 15" Kove Armageddons and it's so loud it hurts. I've gone through my share of windshields because of them.
I was not expecting a lanzar to do its rated the power I'm literally happy to see a brand even if it's just one of the lines they produce to do rated it's a shame it didn't count up cleanly but for that price I think I would buy it.
@James Zawacki , It’s Funny you say that! For a period of time Lanzar was owned by the same people who owned both Pyramid and Pyle… which in reality- all of the product from those brands were just Pyramid rebranded. But as with many companies, the name was sold. And off to new adventures Manufacturing went 😉
@@eatsleepbassrepeat Good times back then ran all lanzar..opti 50,and 150 before the sell out. I think the 50 was 300 and 150 was 500 bucks (but that was zed audio)
I mean… This amp is actually pretty cool and I really dig the looks of it. That being said I’m not really the target market for this one tho. Great video as always
@@One-Crazy-Cat shoot man I used a old school Lanzar 4000watt amp. I know it was no where near true 4000 watts and was more like 1000 watts. Lol. It still pushed those old two 15 inch Audiopipe Eye Candy subs in a sealed enclosure. Those were the good old days
@@walwhat type of electrical set up is necessary for this amp? I’m new to this “pro” type build. My stuff was old school and as cheap as possible for the best I could get my hands on.
4 gauge inputs? And it's almost as it they forgot to do the soap screening for the lettering otherwise whoever thought black on black was a great idea is clearly in the wrong position. But all things aside 1200 watts at 8 ohms? That's decent power for a cheap 3k amp and it would likely bump pretty decent. Excellent review as always
I liked the little history at the beginning! I'd love to hear more deep dive on the history and what happened to all these cool old school companies. Maybe something for the 2nd channel? Thanks for the great videos
That 8 ohm power output is legit. I would get this for testing purposes, but I still have a 3k slayer and a tsg mono block that still have yet to seen any action. Great Video Mr. Sir!
From what I understand lanzar went bankrupt just two or three years ago and was bought out by a Brazilian company who also bought the rights to continue using the lanzar name. That is why you won't find any current website or information when you search for lanzar 👌👍
@@wal at least that is the information I was able to find online. Random question for you though, I have a 3000 watt hifonics Brutus 1 ohm stable amp that burnt up during a comp sitting in my closet, would you like to have it? I have no use for it 🤷
Besides the quality of the paint used, this thing is awesome. sound quality is there, power is there, this amp protects itself well, and is kept cool by 2 fans that kick on when they need to, not constantly running or loud btw. this amp really pushes my hawk 12’s and sounds unbelieveable
It's interesting to see a new product in the Opti drive range (even if it's a badge job). I guess they decided that continuing to sell the same surfboard class AB and D mono blocks since 2005 wasn't sustainable. Good to see the Opti drive line is still competent, given that despite being owned by sound around they outsourced the Opti and pro lines to MD Audio Engineering who decides to just keep making the same amps for almost 20 years.
I ordered an open box banda beat 3001 for 170 even and got this one instead, cant say im mad about it 🤷🏻♂️ i was worried they would mistakenly send me a 4 channel as amazon has done to me before when ordering used products. But. I think i won on this one!!! Nice vid big D im glad your test of this amp exists because i would have been DEPRESSED if i didnt know it made this much power.
... that's good to hear. I building a Chevy HHR using all lanzar ( everything but the head unit). I found 3 of those old school lanzar opti1232d subwoofers, that were still brand new unused. And I'm going to pair them with this lanzar full bridge amp. I actually was one of the first people to have had this amp. I purchased it a year ago. But still to this day, I never powered it up. So I was glad to see this Dyno review video today. I really didn't expect it to put out more power than the banda version 3k amp. That was pretty impressive
I have lazer speakers that are really good.. Even though they only cost 35 bucks a pair Full range component , come to the cross over to ,, people are pretty impressed when they hear them ... cheap were pretty good... Been using them in my car doors for the past five years.. I gave it a try I thought they had a good power rating on them for 35 bucks a pair I think it's like 200 W each 6 1/2
LOL! I had some of those Lanzar Opti Drive amps in my 1978 BMW. I got them from little stereo shop I worked at back in the early 90's...I actually never had any issues with the amps. They were pushing two 15" Soundstream sub woofers where I used and sealed the trunk..
I used a lot of banda beat 3001, for the midhighs i think is the best amp for run it. i tested a lot of 3k's brasilian amp and the banda is the better sounding and performing on midhighs speakers :)
lies! Rockford Fosgate is top notch in the 20 years I have been buying and selling them I have only seen one Rockford amp die they are built like tanks and will last you 30+ years hands down! That is there power line of amps of course not the prime models that were made to sell at best buy for cheap the OG Lanzar was good stuff back in the day but was sold in the 90's I think and went right to shit like a lot of the other brands did
@@NightshiftCustom I am not trying to shit on RF, was never the brand I ran, but I have seen plenty of them take a dump. Every brand gets some duds. Some held up better to the abuse than others. I have one down in the basement that I can't recall if it works or not. Need to go test it and sell it. I got rid of all my nonworking stuff a while back and came across this one whine going through my other stuff.
A girlfriend gave me a nice 4 channel Lanzar amp way back in the day. This being before the internet, I had no idea what it was. Thought it was a flea market brand! It sounded great pushing mids and highs
I watch you alot you should put out a list based on your test which amps in class gives best performance for full range and class d😊...thanks for entertaining me and helping me with shopping 😊
Lanzar amp is very good amp had one 2k mono pushing two lanzar opti 12" very good amp and sub amp always run cool and good power output very good information bro
I remember back in the day I bought a Lanzar 12" sub that came in a wooden box with a combination lock. It was an OptiDrive 12" and that thing absolutely SLAMMED on it's own. Edit: this was before Lanzar sold it's rights to whoever (or before they went out of bidness and someone just took over the name).
I still have one 🤣. Brand new in the box. It's a wooden box with a red velvet inside. Never got around to installing it. Then I just put it in the closet
I’m upgrading my system from 2 Rockville RXD-T2 amps (each separately powering a 2ohm sub @ 4 ohms bridged) to either a Soundstream t1.6000dl or this & I am so glad you posted this because I couldn’t decide until I saw those janky ass knobs. First of all, there’s SUB & then BASS… so 2 bass boost knobs or…? Not to mention the 4 gauge inputs… definitely going with the Soundstream even tho it clips at 2200 watts @ .5 ohm… im just hoping I don’t blow my shit up trying to get that 4400 RMS
When you showed this on FB I kinda figured it would be a solid little amp. Banda seems to be pretty good at delivering the numbers they say. Why are Brazilians so afraid of 1/0 wire tho?! Lol
@@wal I am stuck on old school style set ups. What I mean by this is I have 100% stock electrical and prefer low watt/high efficiency subs with 1000 watts amp or less (usually 300-600 watt amp). I go overkill with my wire just to be safe and use 0 guage with these 4 guage reducers like you used here. My question to you is does the voltage getting to the amp suffer from these reducers like this? My thought process tells me no because the reducer is so close to the 0 guage and is 100 percent metal. Thoughts?
It would be interesting to see a ampometer on the speaker leads of all the amps you test. As you know there are two ways to make wattage,1) high voltage/lower current or 2) low voltage/higher current. Right there is how new amps produce so much "power". Back in "The Golden Age" a 500 watt amp was the same size as a 5000 watt now. However,the difference is current and voltage output. Current,not wattage,makes heat. There is no way the amps of today would survive producing stated "power" if they had the current output of old school amps. Also,current is what moves voice coils,not wattage,and why old school amps drive speakers just as or almost as hard as those made today. Back in the day I remember good amps stated "no current limiting" in their features. I doubt that's done now.
Cuts me up when a youngin brings a flea market lanzar amp to be installed these days. Lanzar USED TO MAKE some pretty killer stuff. Modern lanzar is "hood deal" junk.
Whatever happened to Lanzar... If you wonder where you'd need a big full range amplifier, you must have forgotten about how car audio is done in Brazil! Concert on wheels! Thump a hundred miles away!
Thanks for all your video content and information. I have a question- which video, if you have prior, do you explain the difference in those bench test mode- certified, uncertified, etc. I’m pretty sure I understand dynamic as a “burp” style test (just guessing), but would you mind building that education into a video? To better understand how we can use and implement this data. Thanks & Cheers
Back in about 1992 to 1993, Lanzar made some hatchback boxes, that were crazy good sounding. The one I had two 15" subs, two 4 or 5" mids, and 2 horn tweeters.... the subs were angled up towards the top, but on about a 30 deg angle. There were 4 decent sized ports along the bottom. I sold it, when I sold the car. Does anyone have any pictures of that box, or have any information on it???
@@NightshiftCustom that's just Facebook type talk and myth. Most all failure from Brazilian type full bridge, is user error. Be it, too much input signal voltage, where they think they all need 7v fed to them, improper ohm loads and vibration issues. All amplifiers can and will have problems. You know how many SALT amplifiers I have seen so far, with the transformers not even fully soldered or not soldered at all. I have yet to have any real issues from full bridge amplifiers, except one Taramps HD3k first version. They replaced it with a brand new unit way back then...and it has passed hands about 7 times now, and it has fallen back to me, and has been in my wife's budget build for over a year. Most of the "fire" comments are just typical misinformation spread by word of mouth. Any brand can and will fail, and spark a flame, smoke up a car...and so forth. Most of those failures, were people throwing 3k+ amplifiers, in vehicles with no upgraded electrical, and with 4ga CCA wire and the likes. I've seen it first hand, for years where people think that the size of those amps, means they don't need the electrical to back it up. 👍
Brazilian amps confuse me as to accurately measuring their output. Brazilian amps ramp the voltage internally requiring less amperage. So is there a way to calculate that without opening up the amplifier?
I love these cheap amp vids😊 I'm curious if you shoot the low impedance/max power vids first, then reverse the order to keep the battery bank voltage up?
Interesting. I like how they run 240 V in their car. They lived risky with fire. Arcing and sparking. I want to see the 600 V amplifier that thing will have the smallest wires going into it think of the cost savings of the materials.
I can't stop looking at the intro showing around the amp, it literally looks like someone took there banda 3k into the garage pulled out a can of white spray paint and painted it with all the little air bubbles and blemishes in the paint and slapped a lanzar decal on it most it was a cost saving to use spray paint??"
4ga wire is sufficient for most 3k amplifiers that have 4ga inputs. If you use a good quality of wire. It isn't so much about current, as it is about the wire's amperage load capabilities. My wife has a budget build for her daily, and I always use KnuKonceptz wire...and hers has 4ga ofc and performs flawlessly. Even full tilt on her drives to work, or when we just take drives, ir doing a demo..it never drops below 13.8v, and that's with just one xs power 7500, and a smaller xs under the hood. 👍
@@jondoe6618 Yeah, while still a class A/B, they did their rated power. They would get hot if pushed hard but I rarely ever saw a failure. You would be hard pressed to find something better in their price range. I still have a few of the 220 and 230 models sitting around from back then. Great units to put on some highs.
great video i see if you click on the amazon link for this amp ans scroll down they have a 11k verson of this amp for 400 crazy wonder if they did better things with it or might be better to wait for 2nd verson if the come out with one but anywase ya thats the only way i could find the 11k verson could not find it searching on amazon or anyware but if that 11k reads right on dyno with no problems would be a steal maybe highest power for the money
Cool video! Talking old school, I never hear anyone talk about Directed Audio from the late 90s early 2000s. Still some of the best and loudest systems I've heard was a 1100d on two L7 15s. Do you ever run across any ?
Feel like directed acquiring everyone was the end of the best brands out there. I had a viper 5 channel amp, it was okay I like the MTX RT 4405 it replaced better.
I had an l7 15 before I even got my first car lol. I got it In a trade at work thru one of my customers, it was practically brand new but also the size was huge after I settled on buying a small bmw coupe with little to no trunk space the decision to sell it became obvious. But before selling it, I wanted to play it for a couple months so I hooked it up to the only amp I had available to me which was my class ab Jl audio jx400/4 and I could barely get that thing to move 😂 that was the point I said screw it im done messing with this beast and I wasn’t about to buy another amplifier just for the sake of bumping it full blast just before selling it. I did finally get to see it flex in full motion one I met the dude up from Craigslist that came down to pick it up off my hands, the buyer had with him a hifonics monoblock which allowed me to finally see that square bahemouth flex once and for all lol. I believe I let him have it for 300 including the ported box lesson was learned that day. Big subs need lots of juice 😅😅
So, you’re say above 1% THD causes the amp to lag in building power? Or is this caused from the dyno? I saw a different amp review you did, that amp did the same thing.
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We wanna see the stetsom ex3000
The site has a outdated ssl certificate. You should be able to click advanced and go past the prompt to get the website.
i know banda leased out this design to a company called thunderball aka "deejay led " which makes banda Eq that the same a clarion eqs755 also they make banda speakers and drivers also i think there returned items rebranded but don't quote me on that
Can you repair a amp if brought to raleigh.
I just used your link I want to try it out
My 2 Lanzar DC12's with my 50c did low 150's in my camaro in the 90's, and the car wasn't even set up well. Lanzar used to be legendary!
My buddy used to own a stereo shop called Super Sounds…he was one of the top Lanzar dealers…I remember going to the factory in Chatsworth Ca to pickup their Hearst demo vehicle to take to shows….fun times and great memories….
Armchair EE nerd warning: The TO-247 package was designed to carry more silicon. More silicon means more current carrying ability, and probably better heat dissipation. At more "normal" power levels (say 25 to 300 watts RMS), either the '247 or the '220 would probably be fine, but at 3- to 4-thousand watts, I'd definitely want the bigger package. Heck, I'd love to see someone bring back the TO-3 package for applications like this one! 👍
Great idea in chip
For my multi KW designs I usually use the CSD18536KCS Fets. What you really want to see is low RDSon (
@@rgstever Absolutely. I was mostly commenting on the dissipation of the package itself - larger surface area generally means lower thermal resistance. What sort of designs do you embark in?
That is actually a good amp. For 200 bucks it is going to be hard to beat.
Ive always admired lanzar amps and to me they worked extremely well. That little amp packs a wollop it seems for the price
This amp seems really nice for a young basshead. Pair it with 2 15's you would have a very nice loud affordable system.
Don’t give me ideas while I’m on stock electrical and 4 gauge
I really miss my real old-school Lanzar OptiDrive Plus "American Crafted Performance" amps that were made in the USA back in the 90s. These were real amps back in the day, although I never understood the hard-wired power and ground vs terminals. Had a 500 and 2x Lanzar Pro 12" subs and my car was BUMPIN'
The old school Crunch 250 (zed designed) I have is the same way, hard wired. Still works down to 0.5 ohm stable although it gets hot as hell.
I still have mine a 4100 and 2150 which still using them. Can't compare USA to the cheap crap nowadays
I've always liked Lanzar. I still have three Optidrive 2500s powering three 15" Kove Armageddons and it's so loud it hurts. I've gone through my share of windshields because of them.
I was not expecting a lanzar to do its rated the power I'm literally happy to see a brand even if it's just one of the lines they produce to do rated it's a shame it didn't count up cleanly but for that price I think I would buy it.
The Opti line isn't made by sound around, which is why they are usually pretty decent.
I've got three Opti6000 amps, two of which are still BNIB. They easily do 6,000 at 14v. They are VERY impressive amps.
I have Opti 7001 and still works great people try to buy it but I won't sale it
The optidrive and the vibe are the only ones that do.
@@dipinmylip1171 ol school
Oh no! More reverse polarity repairs. These are notorious for being hooked up backward. Thank you for keeping me up to date on new amplifier releases.
My mind is blown! I've always thought of Lanzar on the level with Pyle, Pyramid Audio, etc. Where a 3k amp is actually 200W RMS if you are lucky.
It is unless you are talking about the Opti line which is made by the MD Audio Engineering which owns Orion.
yep optidrive all the way
90s model lanzar were high end
@James Zawacki , It’s Funny you say that! For a period of time Lanzar was owned by the same people who owned both Pyramid and Pyle… which in reality- all of the product from those brands were just Pyramid rebranded. But as with many companies, the name was sold. And off to new adventures Manufacturing went 😉
@@eatsleepbassrepeat Good times back then ran all lanzar..opti 50,and 150 before the sell out. I think the 50 was 300 and 150 was 500 bucks (but that was zed audio)
I mean… This amp is actually pretty cool and I really dig the looks of it. That being said I’m not really the target market for this one tho. Great video as always
Targeting the guy who has 200 bucks and probably not the correct electrical to use an amp like this...
LanZar…..Coming to a high school parking lot near you.
@@One-Crazy-Cat shoot man I used a old school Lanzar 4000watt amp. I know it was no where near true 4000 watts and was more like 1000 watts. Lol. It still pushed those old two 15 inch Audiopipe Eye Candy subs in a sealed enclosure. Those were the good old days
@@walwhat type of electrical set up is necessary for this amp? I’m new to this “pro” type build. My stuff was old school and as cheap as possible for the best I could get my hands on.
@@WhatsthePOINT_EDC I still run old school and cheap. LOL
4 gauge inputs? And it's almost as it they forgot to do the soap screening for the lettering otherwise whoever thought black on black was a great idea is clearly in the wrong position. But all things aside 1200 watts at 8 ohms? That's decent power for a cheap 3k amp and it would likely bump pretty decent. Excellent review as always
I liked the little history at the beginning! I'd love to hear more deep dive on the history and what happened to all these cool old school companies. Maybe something for the 2nd channel? Thanks for the great videos
That 8 ohm power output is legit.
I would get this for testing purposes, but I still have a 3k slayer and a tsg mono block that still have yet to seen any action.
Great Video Mr. Sir!
i think you meant 4 ohm?
Meant watch til the extras and he got 1200rms at 8ohms at clipping
8ohms uncertified he got 1200rms, you need to watch til the end. Certified it did the stop and go but still made 1000
@@hawaiianbasshead ah, yeah I figured if he did that he would have started with it
I ran their old giant 2 channel 12k years ago. It was nice, still have one of the old 6ks though havent touched it in years.
Lanzer just needs to run the Oldschool Vibe and Opti Series products only and keep it simple nice
From what I understand lanzar went bankrupt just two or three years ago and was bought out by a Brazilian company who also bought the rights to continue using the lanzar name. That is why you won't find any current website or information when you search for lanzar 👌👍
Oh snap?
@@wal at least that is the information I was able to find online. Random question for you though, I have a 3000 watt hifonics Brutus 1 ohm stable amp that burnt up during a comp sitting in my closet, would you like to have it? I have no use for it 🤷
@@baltazard133T I'd like to have it. Had one years ago that blew I'm pretty familiar with it.
Besides the quality of the paint used, this thing is awesome. sound quality is there, power is there, this amp protects itself well, and is kept cool by 2 fans that kick on when they need to, not constantly running or loud btw. this amp really pushes my hawk 12’s and sounds unbelieveable
Wow, can't believe a flea market brand exceeded expectations and impressed. Love these videos.
It's interesting to see a new product in the Opti drive range (even if it's a badge job). I guess they decided that continuing to sell the same surfboard class AB and D mono blocks since 2005 wasn't sustainable. Good to see the Opti drive line is still competent, given that despite being owned by sound around they outsourced the Opti and pro lines to MD Audio Engineering who decides to just keep making the same amps for almost 20 years.
The wattage jumping up quickly is troubling. The look is original I give it that! The good old quad box bumps! Awesome video!
Yea I’m skeptical on the bouncy wattage. Even though this looks cool, I’d stay with my Smart3.
Yeah that good old quadbox, that was just introduced to the market last year.
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I ordered an open box banda beat 3001 for 170 even and got this one instead, cant say im mad about it 🤷🏻♂️ i was worried they would mistakenly send me a 4 channel as amazon has done to me before when ordering used products. But. I think i won on this one!!! Nice vid big D im glad your test of this amp exists because i would have been DEPRESSED if i didnt know it made this much power.
In 2000 I had a complete lanzar system from head unit to subs in my jeep cherokee
... that's good to hear. I building a Chevy HHR using all lanzar ( everything but the head unit). I found 3 of those old school lanzar opti1232d subwoofers, that were still brand new unused. And I'm going to pair them with this lanzar full bridge amp. I actually was one of the first people to have had this amp. I purchased it a year ago. But still to this day, I never powered it up. So I was glad to see this Dyno review video today. I really didn't expect it to put out more power than the banda version 3k amp. That was pretty impressive
I remember hearing lanzar subs back in the 90's at a bass comp. Decent subs they were.
Very unexpected 8ohm balls on that little amp.
That is what the OG OpiDrive Lanzar's were famous for.
I have lazer speakers that are really good.. Even though they only cost 35 bucks a pair Full range component , come to the cross over to ,, people are pretty impressed when they hear them ... cheap were pretty good... Been using them in my car doors for the past five years.. I gave it a try I thought they had a good power rating on them for 35 bucks a pair I think it's like 200 W each 6 1/2
LOL! I had some of those Lanzar Opti Drive amps in my 1978 BMW. I got them from little stereo shop I worked at back in the early 90's...I actually never had any issues with the amps. They were pushing two 15" Soundstream sub woofers where I used and sealed the trunk..
I used a lot of banda beat 3001, for the midhighs i think is the best amp for run it. i tested a lot of 3k's brasilian amp and the banda is the better sounding and performing on midhighs speakers :)
Lanzar ftw! ( Old school Lanzar that is).
Old school Lanny is good fo sho
😳 I'M SO USED TO LANZARS OLD SHELL
I'd rather pay a little extra for the Taramps smart 3 Bass to benefit from the new tech keeping it from blowing up. lol
Back in the day, you would get clowned for having a Lanzar amp. But I never heard anyone say it broke. Unlike my old efficient Rockfords lol
Bullshit nobodys hating on opti 50 ,
Even their budget black vibe amps worked very well with no issues.
lies! Rockford Fosgate is top notch in the 20 years I have been buying and selling them I have only seen one Rockford amp die
they are built like tanks and will last you 30+ years hands down! That is there power line of amps of course not the prime models that were made to sell at best buy for cheap
the OG Lanzar was good stuff back in the day but was sold in the 90's I think and went right to shit like a lot of the other brands did
@@NightshiftCustom I am not trying to shit on RF, was never the brand I ran, but I have seen plenty of them take a dump. Every brand gets some duds. Some held up better to the abuse than others. I have one down in the basement that I can't recall if it works or not. Need to go test it and sell it. I got rid of all my nonworking stuff a while back and came across this one whine going through my other stuff.
A girlfriend gave me a nice 4 channel Lanzar amp way back in the day. This being before the internet, I had no idea what it was. Thought it was a flea market brand! It sounded great pushing mids and highs
That Kicker box is nice AF. Like the black n red
I watch you alot you should put out a list based on your test which amps in class gives best performance for full range and class d😊...thanks for entertaining me and helping me with shopping 😊
Been watching these videos for awhile and for $200 I'm trying it ...actually i got it today 🤪thanks for the videos
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Man I love some old school dj magic mike
Lanzar amp is very good amp had one 2k mono pushing two lanzar opti 12" very good amp and sub amp always run cool and good power output very good information bro
I had two lanzar 10's in a pyramid shaped box back in the mid 90's and they pounded!
I love those old crossfire amps the cf amps I believe
I remember back in the day I bought a Lanzar 12" sub that came in a wooden box with a combination lock. It was an OptiDrive 12" and that thing absolutely SLAMMED on it's own. Edit: this was before Lanzar sold it's rights to whoever (or before they went out of bidness and someone just took over the name).
I would love to get a pare of those subs they were my dream sub when I was a broke 15yr old lol
I still have one 🤣. Brand new in the box. It's a wooden box with a red velvet inside. Never got around to installing it. Then I just put it in the closet
I’m upgrading my system from 2 Rockville RXD-T2 amps (each separately powering a 2ohm sub @ 4 ohms bridged) to either a Soundstream t1.6000dl or this & I am so glad you posted this because I couldn’t decide until I saw those janky ass knobs. First of all, there’s SUB & then BASS… so 2 bass boost knobs or…? Not to mention the 4 gauge inputs… definitely going with the Soundstream even tho it clips at 2200 watts @ .5 ohm… im just hoping I don’t blow my shit up trying to get that 4400 RMS
Wow lanzar back in the house amazing they been out of the game of car audio for a long long time though really?????
When you showed this on FB I kinda figured it would be a solid little amp. Banda seems to be pretty good at delivering the numbers they say. Why are Brazilians so afraid of 1/0 wire tho?! Lol
I know the 4ga power and ground set bad example for people 🤦♂️
Because the amps are not designed to actually put out full power. They're designed with dynamic music and high impedance rise subs.
Agree, but a short piece of 4ga from a distro block wouldn't be a problem.
@@wal I am stuck on old school style set ups. What I mean by this is I have 100% stock electrical and prefer low watt/high efficiency subs with 1000 watts amp or less (usually 300-600 watt amp). I go overkill with my wire just to be safe and use 0 guage with these 4 guage reducers like you used here. My question to you is does the voltage getting to the amp suffer from these reducers like this? My thought process tells me no because the reducer is so close to the 0 guage and is 100 percent metal. Thoughts?
@@bones40447 depends on the material of the reducer, if it is copper there would be no loss.
It would be interesting to see a ampometer on the speaker leads of all the amps you test. As you know there are two ways to make wattage,1) high voltage/lower current or 2) low voltage/higher current. Right there is how new amps produce so much "power". Back in "The Golden Age" a 500 watt amp was the same size as a 5000 watt now. However,the difference is current and voltage output. Current,not wattage,makes heat. There is no way the amps of today would survive producing stated "power" if they had the current output of old school amps. Also,current is what moves voice coils,not wattage,and why old school amps drive speakers just as or almost as hard as those made today. Back in the day I remember good amps stated "no current limiting" in their features. I doubt that's done now.
What amp design is more forgiving to voltage sag?
No magic smoke.
Full bridge or half bridge design?
Cuts me up when a youngin brings a flea market lanzar amp to be installed these days. Lanzar USED TO MAKE some pretty killer stuff. Modern lanzar is "hood deal" junk.
The irfp448 is a 500v 6a fet, these are irfb448 40v vds and 120a. The irfb448's are very obscure
Just wanted to know, what does the fact that it didn't count up cleanly, translate to when your listening to music?
Whatever happened to Lanzar...
If you wonder where you'd need a big full range amplifier, you must have forgotten about how car audio is done in Brazil! Concert on wheels! Thump a hundred miles away!
Apparently there is a 15k variant of this as well, looks like the Banda 10k I had years ago with dual inputs.
I am running the banda electra 12k 1/2ohm version for months daily driven. Id love for you to review it. Its a power house at 1/2, 1, 2, even 4 ohms
bought that big blue lanzar amp back in 93 and still got it it was 800 bucks back then
Thanks for all your video content and information. I have a question- which video, if you have prior, do you explain the difference in those bench test mode- certified, uncertified, etc. I’m pretty sure I understand dynamic as a “burp” style test (just guessing), but would you mind building that education into a video? To better understand how we can use and implement this data. Thanks & Cheers
Made a full video explaining
3 Modes of the Amp Dyno and Thoughts...
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Back in about 1992 to 1993, Lanzar made some hatchback boxes, that were crazy good sounding. The one I had two 15" subs, two 4 or 5" mids, and 2 horn tweeters.... the subs were angled up towards the top, but on about a 30 deg angle. There were 4 decent sized ports along the bottom. I sold it, when I sold the car.
Does anyone have any pictures of that box, or have any information on it???
Kicker and Rockford also made those full range boxes back then 💪😎👍
2010 was part of team lanzar we went to world finals TNESPL as one of TEAM CARTUNES KUSTOMS
The white reminds me of the ZX series of Phoenix Gold.
As always, thanks for another nice video
God I love these up loads!
Love these comments 😝
Nothing wrong with budget build options 🤙
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while maybe till the car is on fire from it lol
@@NightshiftCustom that's just Facebook type talk and myth. Most all failure from Brazilian type full bridge, is user error. Be it, too much input signal voltage, where they think they all need 7v fed to them, improper ohm loads and vibration issues. All amplifiers can and will have problems. You know how many SALT amplifiers I have seen so far, with the transformers not even fully soldered or not soldered at all. I have yet to have any real issues from full bridge amplifiers, except one Taramps HD3k first version. They replaced it with a brand new unit way back then...and it has passed hands about 7 times now, and it has fallen back to me, and has been in my wife's budget build for over a year. Most of the "fire" comments are just typical misinformation spread by word of mouth. Any brand can and will fail, and spark a flame, smoke up a car...and so forth. Most of those failures, were people throwing 3k+ amplifiers, in vehicles with no upgraded electrical, and with 4ga CCA wire and the likes. I've seen it first hand, for years where people think that the size of those amps, means they don't need the electrical to back it up. 👍
Always been a big optdrive fan
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Wish this would of performed little better though lol
Brazilian amps confuse me as to accurately measuring their output. Brazilian amps ramp the voltage internally requiring less amperage. So is there a way to calculate that without opening up the amplifier?
I love these cheap amp vids😊
I'm curious if you shoot the low impedance/max power vids first, then reverse the order to keep the battery bank voltage up?
No, typically I go from 8 ohms down. I just crank up my power supplies / chargers when the ohm load drops and current rises
Thanks Big D for another great video. Love the channel.
Looking at upgrading from Hifonics Zues 1000.D which I’m guess only does about 5-600 max .. these 2-300 and are really tempting. Looking for 2-3k rms
That is an amazing amount of power for very little money.
This is how Big D removes snow from his garage roof.
To see the writing on the amp use whiteout as it usually flakes off
1:21 you could click advanced and it will let you continue to the website.
Absolutely love the channel!! Became a instant subscriber!! Thanks for the awesome videos
Nice run Big D. Scared of Lanzar. Got burned when they went cheap. I think I'll pass. This amp is cheap with the dollars per watt.
Do you have a video showing what your power-source is for running the dyno tests? Always amazed at seeing 14.xx volts at 300, 400, 500 amps! 😲
I have 320ah of Yinlong/XS Power LTO cells. 48 total cells in 6s8p configuration
Would be nice from you to get finally Oscope to see some more info.....
Interesting. I like how they run 240 V in their car. They lived risky with fire. Arcing and sparking. I want to see the 600 V amplifier that thing will have the smallest wires going into it think of the cost savings of the materials.
There are HV amps from Taramps, Banda and others
I wonder if we will be able to get these in neon colors as well
Earthquake came out with a mini D amp do they do rated power?
I dunno
More pro audio would be awesome 👌
What’s the best amp to run two JL Audio 12tw3 dual 8 ohm subs at 4 ohm? I need about 750 rms at 4 ohms… under $500.
So would this be a good daily amp ?
I can't stop looking at the intro showing around the amp, it literally looks like someone took there banda 3k into the garage pulled out a can of white spray paint and painted it with all the little air bubbles and blemishes in the paint and slapped a lanzar decal on it most it was a cost saving to use spray paint??"
how many amperes is the power supply?
Did u have ur head unit volume down super low I seen maybe 500 watts ?
Would one of the generic bass remote\volume knob which goes in the RCA line work fine with this?
What are good amps for burp?
Back in my time Lanzar was top o the line or at least till the sold to Pyramid.
The 4 gauge inputs crack me up! X-D
4ga wire is sufficient for most 3k amplifiers that have 4ga inputs. If you use a good quality of wire. It isn't so much about current, as it is about the wire's amperage load capabilities. My wife has a budget build for her daily, and I always use KnuKonceptz wire...and hers has 4ga ofc and performs flawlessly. Even full tilt on her drives to work, or when we just take drives, ir doing a demo..it never drops below 13.8v, and that's with just one xs power 7500, and a smaller xs under the hood. 👍
@@Chuck_Sanders 😳
@@colorblind1983 😲
had a older lanzar vibe 1200 in the early 2000's. it was a great amp! Never had another lanzar product since. Great powah from this one tho!
The black vibe amps worked well and did their rated power. So many people abused the snot out of them and they hey kept on kicking.
@@bassntruck that’s what it was! Had it on 2 jlw4 12’s. It was loud for what it was!
@@jondoe6618 Yeah, while still a class A/B, they did their rated power. They would get hot if pushed hard but I rarely ever saw a failure. You would be hard pressed to find something better in their price range. I still have a few of the 220 and 230 models sitting around from back then. Great units to put on some highs.
@2:22 - Mum still has two pairs of Cutco scissors. Both still cut a penny in half.
I used to have a lanzar brute force Amp. It would blow every 15 inch sub I had
Mesmo banda do Brasil
Is there any class A/B monoblock or 2 ch amplifier with 1000w rms at 4ohms.
great video i see if you click on the amazon link for this amp ans scroll down they have a 11k verson of this amp for 400 crazy wonder if they did better things with it or might be better to wait for 2nd verson if the come out with one but anywase ya thats the only way i could find the 11k verson could not find it searching on amazon or anyware but if that 11k reads right on dyno with no problems would be a steal maybe highest power for the money
Hey can you do a high voltage run on the taramps bass 3k low impedances I wire to .5 and clamp 3kish dropping to 13 at 35hz
I have that same cutco knife! I bet you or one of your buddies sold them back in the day
Cool video! Talking old school, I never hear anyone talk about Directed Audio from the late 90s early 2000s. Still some of the best and loudest systems I've heard was a 1100d on two L7 15s. Do you ever run across any ?
Feel like directed acquiring everyone was the end of the best brands out there. I had a viper 5 channel amp, it was okay I like the MTX RT 4405 it replaced better.
I had an l7 15 before I even got my first car lol. I got it In a trade at work thru one of my customers, it was practically brand new but also the size was huge after I settled on buying a small bmw coupe with little to no trunk space the decision to sell it became obvious. But before selling it, I wanted to play it for a couple months so I hooked it up to the only amp I had available to me which was my class ab Jl audio jx400/4 and I could barely get that thing to move 😂 that was the point I said screw it im done messing with this beast and I wasn’t about to buy another amplifier just for the sake of bumping it full blast just before selling it. I did finally get to see it flex in full motion one I met the dude up from Craigslist that came down to pick it up off my hands, the buyer had with him a hifonics monoblock which allowed me to finally see that square bahemouth flex once and for all lol. I believe I let him have it for 300 including the ported box lesson was learned that day. Big subs need lots of juice 😅😅
Would live some old school lanzar, subs as well. Anyone else remember the 8 12's in a rx-7
"This here is my favorite part!". 😁
So, you’re say above 1% THD causes the amp to lag in building power?
Or is this caused from the dyno? I saw a different amp review you did, that amp did the same thing.
It just causes the dyno to read low or not at all because of the distortion.
interesting results, could we perhaps get an extra's video showing 4 ga. wired results?
Over 300a draw on 4g wire is a dangerous idea
Just curious what causes it to jump like that 🤔 ?