Oh, come on! He just called it a nice break then dismissed! He was clear doing that to boast how evil he is so he could mock Sonic for showing Mr. Tinker mercy! He doesn't care one bit! He just wants everyone on the planet attached to one or more of the ten strings wrapped around his fingers so he can control them like puppets as he dances around with them like a giddy overstuffed buffoon!
@@videogollumer First of all, nice imagery there. Clever metaphor. Second, as his taunting about his time as Mr Tinker goes on, it’s clear from what he says and how he says it, there was plenty he enjoyed about it. And I’m not saying he didn’t enjoy being evil more, I’m just saying he DID take some pleasure in his time as a good guy
@@Sarcasm-Sage-626 If that was true, he wouldn't have been unfazed by Sonic's words. It's not even present at face value; Eggman's sleaze bleeds through both his expression and words. He didn't ENJOY being GOOD; he only enjoyed the perks that came with it.
@@videogollumer The ‘perks’ being the joy on children’s faces, the feeling of making and fixing things people like to use, and the sincere gratitude of the townsfolk Oh yes, all purely selfish things for him to enjoy, and nothing at all altruistic about any of them
@@Sarcasm-Sage-626 You DO realize that you are advocating a guy who almost destroyed the world just to get revenge on Sonic and would do it again in a heartbeat, right? Like Sonic, you're suggesting he has a "wittle gooed inshide hem"; no, not after the Metal Virus! Mr. Tinker is dead, Eggman's alive again, he's pure evil! We do NOT need Sonic to have more excuses to be lenient on him!
I personally think this is the moment Rough, Tumble, and Starline can't forgive. What would happen if Eggman grew up to be a gentle man like his grandfather, and if Eggman stood in Sonic's position as an ally of justice? Destroyed his wonderful answer, and even his memories and bond with his daughter... That the platypus was effectively killed by Eggman would be nothing but karma.
Hello! Are we ignoring the blue robot in the room! HE brought Eggman back! I don't care what Ian said in his blog! It DOESN'T match up with what he has written here!
@@videogollumer It could have been possible that Eggman would have gotten his memories back from another powerful trigger, but before that would happen, the village he lived in would probably notice his kidnapping and send someone to save Mr. Tinker, most likely Sonic. Metal Sonic 100% was the trigger that restored Eggman’s memories, since his emotional memory at the time was most connected to him and nothing else was doing anything to spark it. In the scenario where he isn’t rescued though, Eggman might still have regained his memories without Metal Sonic, but it would have been an easier said than done job for Starline.
@@jenniferdaly6819 Tell me about it, he was getting no where. Heck! He accidentally did Mr. Tinker a favor! He made Mr. Tinker realize that he WAS Eggman. Because he had lost his memory, Mr. Tinker was blissfully unaware of the atrocities he committed as Eggman; thus, never got to repent of them. The problem with that is that while he couldn't remember, it didn't change the fact that he committed them and that there had to be justification for dropping the charges against him. If he repented of what he did, there would have been justification. By finding out he was Eggman, Mr. Tinker was able to regret his actions as Eggman and repent of them; thus he was truly exonerated of Eggman's crimes.
I'll miss Mr. Tinker! He was such a Good Guy! A Good, Kind Hearted, Innocent Man! 😭😭😭😭😭😭 *sigh* At least The Legacy of Mr. Tinker Shall Always Live On to Belle the Tinkerer. She'll NEVER Forget Her Beloved Father.
Wait wait, doesn't Eggman revert to Mr. Tinker after a while? I remember a comic where Starlight succeeds in bringing Eggman back, but Eggmans memories as Tinker remain and he decides to hang up the battleship so to speak.
@@videogollumer No, he definitely is attached to Metal Sonic. It’s more so how an owner loves a hard working sleigh dog, but it’s definitely more than an object at least.
@@videogollumer I don’t deny that Eggman would give himself credit due to literally creating and upgrading Metal Sonic, but I also can’t deny that he would give Metal praise due to Metal having far more of a strong will than the other Badniks. In the end, I’m not disputing that Eggman is a bad person, and a dangerous egomaniac, but he does form attachments to things. Otherwise, with how they annoy him, he would’ve scrapped Orbot and Cubot a long time ago. Anyways, I think that Sega may be taking a more nuanced approach to Eggman after Frontiers, since, actually containing Eggman is impossible due to how deep seated he is in all Governments, and killing him would just make Sage, the one being he’s formed an attachment to go berserk and actually just carpet bomb the resistance. It’s a tricky situation Sonic is in. That’s why he’s trying to get Eggman to change despite how unlikely it is. Because the other options wouldn’t work.
@@jacksonvoet8312 Well, here's a better question: does Metal Sonic love Eggman back? Nearly ALL of the robot CHARACTERS that Eggman created HATE him! Omega hates him; Gemerl hates him; the Scrapniks hate him; Orbot and Cubot hate him, despite the fact that they're still working for him, which they only do because they aren't capable of effectively rebelling against him; even Belle hates him, acknowledging that Eggman's heart isn't Tinker's heart, even if they had the same mind. What would happen if one of Eggman's other machines killed Sonic? How do you think Metal Sonic will feel? Hurt? Angry? Betrayed? Would Eggman care? Even if he did, would it make a difference to Metal Sonic? Also, I lost my concern for Sage's feelings when she said the world is Eggman's for the taking. It's not; it never was; it never will be; and she can get derezzed just for saying that for all I care!
Just imagine the world the IDWverse would be in if Shadow had more of a role and say in all of it. If he got rid of Mr. Tinker, would Belle have gone rogue like Surge? And possibly do something worse than the Zombots?
In that scenario, I don’t think Belle would have went rogue on Shadow, since she was programmed by Mr. Tinker to be a loving, peacekeeping robot, much like him before getting his memories back. She would have probably been completely heartbroken and been unfortunately lost on what to do next. She would hate Shadow’s guts, but that is about it on Belle’s actions in this alternate universe. If she did have the capacity to turn rogue, I only could see her targeting solely Shadow and maybe the rest of Team Dark, since Shadow would be in her mind the focal point of her misery. Belle would probably let Sonic off the hook considering he would have in this scenario tried to save her creator. I can’t see her doing any more vengeance-related things though besides maybe trying to off Shadow. It is just not usually in her nature to hurt others, unless they seriously hurt those she loves. Belle also isn’t really built for combat, with that kick reflex she has being her strongest defense, so it is very unlikely she would even stand a chance against Shadow unless she was upgraded like crazy.
@@jenniferdaly6819 If anyone would target Shadow, it'd be Starline; because Shadow would have ruined any chance of him living his dream to work with Eggman,
@@videogollumer She also has a metal endoskeleton underneath it, so it is possible she could do something before completely being defeated by Shadow. Then again, you are right about Belle being primarily made out of wood, so you could be right on this one to be perfectly honest.
@@videogollumer I could only imagine what would occur with Starline in that universe. Considering what he pulled off in the main IDW timeline, I would not be surprised if it was something worse than the Metal Virus, which was bad enough already.
Imagine if the twist was that Mr Tinker genuinely wasnt Eggman, but becomes essentially brainwashed into believing he was, and then the real Eggman returns
Idk why but eggman and tinker give me a walter white and Heisenberg vibe expect it's kinda a reverse in a way because unlike Walter robotink started out as eggman and then tinker and then eggman again while as Walter he was just Walter until he lost everything and became Heisenberg
3:31-4:01 Take a good long look naysayers; the proof is right in front of your eyes. METAL SONIC is the reason Eggman's back, METAL SONIC was previously a deactivated wreck, and METAL SONIC delivered to be reactivated by Tails and subsequently let escape by who?! Sonic! Just TRY denying it while it's there in black and white!
@@benraven9087 SURE he did; that's totally why Mr. Tinker was acting EXACTLY THE SAME AFTER Starline's stupid ineffective shocks as he was BEFORE them.
Even though I kind of understand where Sonic was coming from when freeing Metal, (He has a no kill policy and believes in redemption,) it was 100% his fault for Eggman regaining his memories. If he hadn’t been so rash in his decision making and instead waited a bit longer so Metal Sonic could possibly be reprogrammed instead to be good, we wouldn’t have lost Mr. Tinker forever. (I don’t hate Sonic for this at all, but it definitely was not a great decision. The ripple effects from this one pacifistic choice created the Metal Virus, one of the worst things to ever happen in Sonic’s world. Even Sonic himself came to the conclusion his decision was not the right one by Issue 23, and was completely consumed by guilt over it.)
@@jenniferdaly6819 Meh, by Issue 32 he still regretted nothing. He let a fully evil Eggman get away, even thinking he MAY come around eventually. He learned NOTHING, and he may not until he finds out Metal Sonic's hand in it. What's ticking me off most is how long it's taking to GET to that part! I don't hate Sonic either; i'm just mad at him. His hubris is painful to behold, and I want him to be humbled for his betterment.
@@videogollumer If the writing team decided to dive deeper into Sonic’s guilt about accidentally allowing Eggman to rise back to power, it would make for an incredible storyline. He could be faced with strong internal conflict on how to handle future foes, especially Eggman, considering for the first time ever whether it is safer to keep them alive or kill them on the spot. It would give the character a lot of development and make any future conflicts with villains in the comic more suspenseful considering the audience would not know if Sonic would spare them in hopes of redemption or kill them for the greater good.
Thory: I wonder did starline mamory wripe/mind control mr tinker into dr eggman By take awey to think about life. Or the mind control that make him that he cant have abel to think 100%. but just think about all eggman things without free will. but it take a wile or a reminder by look at mantel sonic or it just dr starline try to control his brain by puting non-free-will thinking so dr eggman came back but it does not work because it not the right personality but it came back by remaber something that have cannation/something starline say 2:57 but it can not change because starline device turn dr eggman brain personality last forever with out choise but make him to can not do anything positive like eggman becasue it like dr starline reprograme his brain like agein with out choise by adding non-free-will choise. So what i'm trying to say if dr eggman want to change he cant! He force to act like that because dr starline device force him!
I just realish this is all dr starline fult because if dr starline did not use his device the sonic world will be good place with out fighting robot made by dr eggman and mr tinker/dr eggman will be a good men
Ironic that despite what Starline says, later on Eggman more or less admits he DID enjoy being Mister Tinker
Oh, come on! He just called it a nice break then dismissed! He was clear doing that to boast how evil he is so he could mock Sonic for showing Mr. Tinker mercy! He doesn't care one bit! He just wants everyone on the planet attached to one or more of the ten strings wrapped around his fingers so he can control them like puppets as he dances around with them like a giddy overstuffed buffoon!
@@videogollumer First of all, nice imagery there. Clever metaphor.
Second, as his taunting about his time as Mr Tinker goes on, it’s clear from what he says and how he says it, there was plenty he enjoyed about it.
And I’m not saying he didn’t enjoy being evil more, I’m just saying he DID take some pleasure in his time as a good guy
@@Sarcasm-Sage-626 If that was true, he wouldn't have been unfazed by Sonic's words. It's not even present at face value; Eggman's sleaze bleeds through both his expression and words. He didn't ENJOY being GOOD; he only enjoyed the perks that came with it.
@@videogollumer The ‘perks’ being the joy on children’s faces, the feeling of making and fixing things people like to use, and the sincere gratitude of the townsfolk
Oh yes, all purely selfish things for him to enjoy, and nothing at all altruistic about any of them
@@Sarcasm-Sage-626 You DO realize that you are advocating a guy who almost destroyed the world just to get revenge on Sonic and would do it again in a heartbeat, right? Like Sonic, you're suggesting he has a "wittle gooed inshide hem"; no, not after the Metal Virus! Mr. Tinker is dead, Eggman's alive again, he's pure evil! We do NOT need Sonic to have more excuses to be lenient on him!
i just realized mr tinker's singing at the beginning of this dub was a reference to sa2 eggman's theme and now i can't unhear it
Yeah, it is
It's not just a reference...the words fit as altered lyrics too!
It's surprisingly fitting, when you think about it, that it would be Metal Sonic that would bring back the Eggman they all knew...
I personally think this is the moment Rough, Tumble, and Starline can't forgive.
What would happen if Eggman grew up to be a gentle man like his grandfather, and if Eggman stood in Sonic's position as an ally of justice? Destroyed his wonderful answer, and even his memories and bond with his daughter...
That the platypus was effectively killed by Eggman would be nothing but karma.
Hello! Are we ignoring the blue robot in the room! HE brought Eggman back! I don't care what Ian said in his blog! It DOESN'T match up with what he has written here!
@@videogollumer He may be the biggest factor, but I can say for sure that Starline created the possibility of contact with him.
@@videogollumer It could have been possible that Eggman would have gotten his memories back from another powerful trigger, but before that would happen, the village he lived in would probably notice his kidnapping and send someone to save Mr. Tinker, most likely Sonic. Metal Sonic 100% was the trigger that restored Eggman’s memories, since his emotional memory at the time was most connected to him and nothing else was doing anything to spark it.
In the scenario where he isn’t rescued though, Eggman might still have regained his memories without Metal Sonic, but it would have been an easier said than done job for Starline.
@@jenniferdaly6819 Tell me about it, he was getting no where. Heck! He accidentally did Mr. Tinker a favor! He made Mr. Tinker realize that he WAS Eggman. Because he had lost his memory, Mr. Tinker was blissfully unaware of the atrocities he committed as Eggman; thus, never got to repent of them. The problem with that is that while he couldn't remember, it didn't change the fact that he committed them and that there had to be justification for dropping the charges against him. If he repented of what he did, there would have been justification. By finding out he was Eggman, Mr. Tinker was able to regret his actions as Eggman and repent of them; thus he was truly exonerated of Eggman's crimes.
RIP
Mr Tinker
Your legacy lives on in Belle
"You don't have much of a choice in the matter" is such a cold ironic echo when Eggman gives it to Starline. He was fucking pissed about this
It's interesting how touching Metal Sonic killed Mr. Tinker & brought back Dr. Eggman.
I will admit a “good guy robotnik” was an arc i did not expect the IDW comics to head in
I'll miss Mr. Tinker! He was such a Good Guy! A Good, Kind Hearted, Innocent Man! 😭😭😭😭😭😭 *sigh* At least The Legacy of Mr. Tinker Shall Always Live On to Belle the Tinkerer. She'll NEVER Forget Her Beloved Father.
"The last group I hired didn't last long against sonic and shadow"
This is the closest the idw comics ever came to mentioning infinite
Starline's biggest accomplishment: The return of Dr. Eggman.
Hahahahaha! You're hilarious! Hehe, okay, you can stop it with jokes now; we ALL know who REALLY brought Eggman back, right?
@@videogollumer starline, Ian confirmed it was starlines doing
@@electromagneticpsychopath4973 That's not what the comic's showing.
@@videogollumer Ian said that if metal sonic was released and starline hadn't intervened than eggman would stay as Mr. Tinkerer
@@electromagneticpsychopath4973 Ian confirmed that his own writing betrays those words.
Like always, well done guys. Everyone was great. Amazing dub.
That little song sounded like an alternate version of E.G.G.M.A.N from crush 40
Wait wait, doesn't Eggman revert to Mr. Tinker after a while? I remember a comic where Starlight succeeds in bringing Eggman back, but Eggmans memories as Tinker remain and he decides to hang up the battleship so to speak.
That was “what if” fan comic sadly.
this goes to show eggman cares about metal sonic so much
Yeah, as his favorite looking glass. 😒
@@videogollumer No, he definitely is attached to Metal Sonic. It’s more so how an owner loves a hard working sleigh dog, but it’s definitely more than an object at least.
@@jacksonvoet8312 If Metal Sonic killed Sonic, who would Eggman give the credit to, Metal Sonic of himself?!
@@videogollumer I don’t deny that Eggman would give himself credit due to literally creating and upgrading Metal Sonic, but I also can’t deny that he would give Metal praise due to Metal having far more of a strong will than the other Badniks. In the end, I’m not disputing that Eggman is a bad person, and a dangerous egomaniac, but he does form attachments to things. Otherwise, with how they annoy him, he would’ve scrapped Orbot and Cubot a long time ago. Anyways, I think that Sega may be taking a more nuanced approach to Eggman after Frontiers, since, actually containing Eggman is impossible due to how deep seated he is in all Governments, and killing him would just make Sage, the one being he’s formed an attachment to go berserk and actually just carpet bomb the resistance. It’s a tricky situation Sonic is in. That’s why he’s trying to get Eggman to change despite how unlikely it is. Because the other options wouldn’t work.
@@jacksonvoet8312 Well, here's a better question: does Metal Sonic love Eggman back?
Nearly ALL of the robot CHARACTERS that Eggman created HATE him! Omega hates him; Gemerl hates him; the Scrapniks hate him; Orbot and Cubot hate him, despite the fact that they're still working for him, which they only do because they aren't capable of effectively rebelling against him; even Belle hates him, acknowledging that Eggman's heart isn't Tinker's heart, even if they had the same mind.
What would happen if one of Eggman's other machines killed Sonic? How do you think Metal Sonic will feel? Hurt? Angry? Betrayed? Would Eggman care? Even if he did, would it make a difference to Metal Sonic?
Also, I lost my concern for Sage's feelings when she said the world is Eggman's for the taking. It's not; it never was; it never will be; and she can get derezzed just for saying that for all I care!
El mejor amigo y ahora villano.
F por Mr Tinker.
Amazing Dub Voice Work on Rough and Tumble and Dr. Starline! Incredible Work!😄😁😉👌👍
Just imagine the world the IDWverse would be in if Shadow had more of a role and say in all of it. If he got rid of Mr. Tinker, would Belle have gone rogue like Surge? And possibly do something worse than the Zombots?
In that scenario, I don’t think Belle would have went rogue on Shadow, since she was programmed by Mr. Tinker to be a loving, peacekeeping robot, much like him before getting his memories back. She would have probably been completely heartbroken and been unfortunately lost on what to do next. She would hate Shadow’s guts, but that is about it on Belle’s actions in this alternate universe.
If she did have the capacity to turn rogue, I only could see her targeting solely Shadow and maybe the rest of Team Dark, since Shadow would be in her mind the focal point of her misery. Belle would probably let Sonic off the hook considering he would have in this scenario tried to save her creator. I can’t see her doing any more vengeance-related things though besides maybe trying to off Shadow. It is just not usually in her nature to hurt others, unless they seriously hurt those she loves. Belle also isn’t really built for combat, with that kick reflex she has being her strongest defense, so it is very unlikely she would even stand a chance against Shadow unless she was upgraded like crazy.
Nah, your overreaching; Belle is physically incapable of doing that even if she wanted to. Her exoskeleton is made of WOOD for crying out loud!
@@jenniferdaly6819 If anyone would target Shadow, it'd be Starline; because Shadow would have ruined any chance of him living his dream to work with Eggman,
@@videogollumer She also has a metal endoskeleton underneath it, so it is possible she could do something before completely being defeated by Shadow. Then again, you are right about Belle being primarily made out of wood, so you could be right on this one to be perfectly honest.
@@videogollumer I could only imagine what would occur with Starline in that universe. Considering what he pulled off in the main IDW timeline, I would not be surprised if it was something worse than the Metal Virus, which was bad enough already.
0:25 holy crap, I just realized that he was singing his theme song
Imagine if the twist was that Mr Tinker genuinely wasnt Eggman, but becomes essentially brainwashed into believing he was, and then the real Eggman returns
Idk why but eggman and tinker give me a walter white and Heisenberg vibe expect it's kinda a reverse in a way because unlike Walter robotink started out as eggman and then tinker and then eggman again while as Walter he was just Walter until he lost everything and became Heisenberg
Got room for one more? I've been looking for an opportunity to tryout VA.
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5:30 Was that a jab at Infinite's and his men before Forces?
I want to hear a full version of I Am The Tinker now
3:31-4:01 Take a good long look naysayers; the proof is right in front of your eyes. METAL SONIC is the reason Eggman's back, METAL SONIC was previously a deactivated wreck, and METAL SONIC delivered to be reactivated by Tails and subsequently let escape by who?! Sonic! Just TRY denying it while it's there in black and white!
I guess Ian Flynn is a naysayer? He said Starline had Eggman on the brink of turning and Metal Sonic was just the final push.
@@benraven9087 SURE he did; that's totally why Mr. Tinker was acting EXACTLY THE SAME AFTER Starline's stupid ineffective shocks as he was BEFORE them.
Even though I kind of understand where Sonic was coming from when freeing Metal, (He has a no kill policy and believes in redemption,) it was 100% his fault for Eggman regaining his memories. If he hadn’t been so rash in his decision making and instead waited a bit longer so Metal Sonic could possibly be reprogrammed instead to be good, we wouldn’t have lost Mr. Tinker forever.
(I don’t hate Sonic for this at all, but it definitely was not a great decision. The ripple effects from this one pacifistic choice created the Metal Virus, one of the worst things to ever happen in Sonic’s world. Even Sonic himself came to the conclusion his decision was not the right one by Issue 23, and was completely consumed by guilt over it.)
@@jenniferdaly6819 Meh, by Issue 32 he still regretted nothing. He let a fully evil Eggman get away, even thinking he MAY come around eventually. He learned NOTHING, and he may not until he finds out Metal Sonic's hand in it. What's ticking me off most is how long it's taking to GET to that part! I don't hate Sonic either; i'm just mad at him. His hubris is painful to behold, and I want him to be humbled for his betterment.
@@videogollumer If the writing team decided to dive deeper into Sonic’s guilt about accidentally allowing Eggman to rise back to power, it would make for an incredible storyline. He could be faced with strong internal conflict on how to handle future foes, especially Eggman, considering for the first time ever whether it is safer to keep them alive or kill them on the spot. It would give the character a lot of development and make any future conflicts with villains in the comic more suspenseful considering the audience would not know if Sonic would spare them in hopes of redemption or kill them for the greater good.
Not a bad dub. Do you think you cannmaybe do some scenes from the Zombot saga?
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Amazing Dub! I gotta admit it!
Thory: I wonder did starline mamory wripe/mind control mr tinker into dr eggman By take awey to think about life. Or the mind control that make him that he cant have abel to think 100%. but just think about all eggman things without free will. but it take a wile or a reminder by look at mantel sonic or it just dr starline try to control his brain by puting non-free-will thinking so dr eggman came back but it does not work because it not the right personality but it came back by remaber something that have cannation/something starline say 2:57 but it can not change because starline device turn dr eggman brain personality last forever with out choise but make him to can not do anything positive like eggman becasue it like dr starline reprograme his brain like agein with out choise by adding non-free-will choise. So what i'm trying to say if dr eggman want to change he cant! He force to act like that because dr starline device force him!
And i wonder agein does sonic know this
I just realish this is all dr starline fult because if dr starline did not use his device the sonic world will be good place with out fighting robot made by dr eggman and mr tinker/dr eggman will be a good men
Good work guys. Very good work
RIP Mr Tinker.
Oooo
Rip mr tinker 😢😢😢😢😢
And rip rookie -bowser- 😢😢😢😢😢
awesome video
when you get mephalis put solaris phase 1music
Should you please change "the death of" to "The END of..." because there's no literal death in this story.
I assume it's Metaphorical, like how Vader "killed" Anakin
@@notcats2139 It's a bit more literal, as it's the killing of a personality rather than a turn to the dark side.
Bro I Kinda Liked Mr Tinker Better Than Eggman Tbh.