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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2022
  • This is a video I have wanted to make for some time. This is testing a Shillelagh as well as some Irish stick fighting techniques against a coconut and seeing the results. As part of this test I also tried using a piece of rattan.
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  • @tonytrott6318
    @tonytrott6318 Рік тому +20

    to quote broadsword and single stick published in 1892. " It is amazing the amount of knocks about the head a stout irishman can take with the shilaleigh. This is clear evidence of the thickness of their skulls and hence evidence that they evolved from a different species to the rest of us."

    • @cathyroche6738
      @cathyroche6738 Рік тому +3

      Ah lad your mad

    • @tonytrott6318
      @tonytrott6318 Рік тому +2

      @@cathyroche6738 sanity is over rated

    • @cathyroche6738
      @cathyroche6738 Рік тому +2

      @@tonytrott6318 legend

    • @TonyM540
      @TonyM540 7 місяців тому

      I think you identify with a coconut.

    • @KilMichael
      @KilMichael 4 місяці тому

      Why did the Greeks and Aristotle call us the Sacred Isle and The ancient ones . Brit geno and propaganda… to demonise us yet we are and always have been their masters …

  • @tonynapoli5549
    @tonynapoli5549 Рік тому +7

    Incredible how strong a blackthorn is, interesting subject just subscribed thanks for sharing

  • @wingardwearables
    @wingardwearables Рік тому +11

    Good video! For my tomahawk chop tests, I have yet to find a satisfactory skull surrogate. In my experience, coconuts are too variable. Some are clearly far tougher than the thickest portions of a human skull. Others are blown thru like they were air. Pig heads aren’t great surrogates either-generally greater skull thickness and wrong geometry. Don’t know enough about the zombie head stuff to trust the structural properties are even close to similar. I do know from historic accounts that the Iroquois used pumpkins as skull surrogates but that was probably the closest thing they grew that “worked” for them

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +4

      I have a contact for some synbone skulls which are used for forensic tests I will try them out soon and see how they hold up.

    • @comfortablynumb9342
      @comfortablynumb9342 8 місяців тому

      The zombie heads from Ballistic Labs and places like that are very expensive

    • @user-dv4dl9rw2p
      @user-dv4dl9rw2p 5 місяців тому

      ​@@comfortablynumb9342the real thing's are free

  • @lost_track_moto
    @lost_track_moto Рік тому +4

    I always wondered how hard the shillelagh could hit... incredible!!

  • @goodboi4939
    @goodboi4939 5 місяців тому +2

    It’s safe to say you’re breaking bones or causing severe bruising with a shillelagh or even a cane.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  5 місяців тому

      It's always good to test out the cane though so you know it can do the job.

  • @barrylitchfield8357
    @barrylitchfield8357 Рік тому +1

    If you see the three "eyes" at one end of the coconut, notice the 3 lines that start between those "eyes", and run ro the other end of the cocunut..
    Strike the coconut on one of those lines midway between the ends of the coconut . It will split the coconut in half almost perfectly! Try it!

  • @stephanieann9770
    @stephanieann9770 10 місяців тому +3

    As an Irish descendant from Florida, I am very excited for this video 😁

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  10 місяців тому +2

      I hope you enjoyed it. I will be teaching in Florida next month too.

    • @comfortablynumb9342
      @comfortablynumb9342 8 місяців тому

      I'm a native born Florida man with Irish blood too. And Scottish, English, German, and 2 tribes of Native American. Now I live by the Chesapeake Bay and I'd like to figure out the best wood to use for making my own knob stick cane thing.

    • @comfortablynumb9342
      @comfortablynumb9342 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ramblingkerndo you plan on being around the Chesapeake Bay anytime soon?

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  8 місяців тому +1

      @@comfortablynumb9342 oak works great if you can find it.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  8 місяців тому +1

      @@comfortablynumb9342 if there is a demand and people are willing to host then I can travel.

  • @MichaelRickicki
    @MichaelRickicki Рік тому +3

    Maith thú! This is great stuff.

  • @matesematese1572
    @matesematese1572 Рік тому +1

    Rambling kern for lockdown as I couldn't get to a pub for few Guinness drinks celebrate St Patrick day I bought Guinness in off licence took it home got some fruit and my hand carved shillaglahs did bit of fruit ninja on fruit my foxes and hedghogs had a fruit salad with casualties lol i personally thoughly enjoyed the video 🍀🇬🇧👍🦊🐾

  • @jkoeberlein1
    @jkoeberlein1 Рік тому +1

    Ouch! That'll leave a mark! The sabre strikes were serious. I also like shaligh jabs really work, I've only seen them in books.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +1

      Yes we work a lot of different strikes in both styles so they give a lot of variety.

  • @davesoden8786
    @davesoden8786 Рік тому +2

    Bet the neighbours are quiet.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +1

      Haha I often wonder what they think.

  • @gozer87
    @gozer87 Рік тому +3

    I'm surprised by the rattan to be honest. In my experience it is very flexible and dissipates a lot of energy in the flex. At least compared to hardwood sticks.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому

      Yes I was equally as surprised I'm not sure it if was just me hitting harder or just as a more solid piece of rattan it's hard to say.

    • @syariefdirgantara7670
      @syariefdirgantara7670 Рік тому +3

      Traditionally, here in my country, rattan is considered "deadly" material if weaponized. Flexible yet has a hard surface, make it a perfect whipping baton.
      In 2000-2001 during a civil war/conflict in Celebes Island, one war chief of the christian faction (Advent Lateka) get killed after being hit by a rattan sticks from his opponent. The rattan stick wielder sheikh (Shaleh Assegaf) since then become famous as "Habib Rotan" meaning "Sheikh of Rattan".

  • @Headhunterhiggins
    @Headhunterhiggins Рік тому +3

    GIVE EM THE CUDGEL!

  • @stevenkennedy4130
    @stevenkennedy4130 7 місяців тому +1

    Impressive. Most impressive...

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the support.

  • @Wald-Bushcraft
    @Wald-Bushcraft 5 місяців тому +1

    interesting video, thank you.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  5 місяців тому

      You are very welcome check out the rest of the series some good ones in there.

  • @waynemcauliffe2362
    @waynemcauliffe2362 Рік тому +1

    Back in Oz again. Sorry i missed you over there mate. Another time. We have a lot of coconuts over here😁

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +1

      Nice one brother I hope you had a good time over here sorry I didnt get to see you things are a bit mental for me at the moment.

    • @waynemcauliffe2362
      @waynemcauliffe2362 Рік тому

      @@ramblingkern All good love your vids

  • @davidlanier2290
    @davidlanier2290 7 місяців тому +1

    What if i'm being attacked by a man carrying a bunch of grapes?
    Like i'm the only monty python fan here... .
    Nice video. Own one myself. Nice to know it works.

  • @SunSheepOfLight
    @SunSheepOfLight Рік тому +2

    African war clubs are very similar to a shillelagh.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому

      They are indeed and even their use in some ways is done similarly.

    • @SunSheepOfLight
      @SunSheepOfLight Рік тому +1

      @@ramblingkern Indeed.

  • @boomer6611
    @boomer6611 10 місяців тому +2

    Impressive

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  10 місяців тому

      Have a look at the synthetic skull video that one gives even more insight.

  • @christopherwayne646
    @christopherwayne646 7 місяців тому +1

    What is the wind velocity of a sparrow carrying a coconut on it's back?

  • @theprayer1284
    @theprayer1284 8 місяців тому +1

    Did you get any splinters or dents in the shilelah or the rattan?.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  8 місяців тому

      No I got some minor depressions in the head of the shillelagh. I also broke the shank of it on my most recent test video.

  • @boxingboy442
    @boxingboy442 10 місяців тому +1

    How can i make contact regarding the Tuesday night training ? I tried the website\ ?

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  10 місяців тому

      You will find the link to it in my most recent video I can't post links in comments unfortunately.

  • @17tzujan
    @17tzujan Рік тому +1

    You need a coconut secured to the top of a post.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому

      Yes I plan on trying that soon I just need to figure out how to secure it on properly.

    • @17tzujan
      @17tzujan Рік тому +1

      @@ramblingkern duck tape? Gorilla glue?

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому

      @@17tzujan glue could work if I sand down the skin and make some form of cup. I tried duct tape but used too much it created too much of a layer of tape around it.

  • @MichaelRickicki
    @MichaelRickicki Рік тому +1

    Where is the link to your Patreon?

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +1

      its in the video description mate.

    • @MichaelRickicki
      @MichaelRickicki Рік тому

      @@ramblingkern it’s hard being an idiot but I do it well.

  • @jojojolia8436
    @jojojolia8436 10 місяців тому +1

    عاوزه اشتري

  • @elizabethmcglothlin5406
    @elizabethmcglothlin5406 Рік тому +2

    Ouch! And what is Pupper's name?

  • @lusolad
    @lusolad Рік тому +1

    Where does one get a shillelagh?

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +1

      There are many options it depends where you live more than anything.

    • @lusolad
      @lusolad Рік тому

      @@ramblingkern i live in the USA...so may have to mail order one. They are expensive.

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому +2

      @@lusolad they are but the process of making them takes 1-2 years and requires a lot of knowledge to do it right.

    • @johnny555
      @johnny555 Рік тому

      The forrest. Find yourself a nice piece of oak in the US, carve it. Cure it for a year up a chimney, oil it. Tada.

  • @Outrider74
    @Outrider74 Рік тому +1

    You have very good, fluid technique. Good to see that a tool as simple as a walking stick has effective self-defense capability.
    Speculative question for you: I’m guessing that the average Irishman in centuries past did not necessarily have easy access to coconuts. Any thoughts as to something they might have used as a substitute target for testing their beaking/effectiveness skills?

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому

      I'm not sure I mean the most likely answer is other people although a lot of sticks were used for daily tasks such as cattle droving etc so could have been a multitude of ways.

    • @matesematese1572
      @matesematese1572 Рік тому +2

      @@ramblingkern African sjambok was used to herd cattle and kill snakes and personal defence I has one by cold steel 👍🦊🐾🇬🇧🍀

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  Рік тому

      @@matesematese1572 yes I would love to get one there is a lot of similarities between cattle based societies around the globe.

    • @matesematese1572
      @matesematese1572 Рік тому +2

      @@ramblingkern aye I concur a sjambok is very painful experience great for home defence I also keep one my shillaglahs in every room stashed 👍🇬🇧🦊🐾🍀

    • @johnny555
      @johnny555 Рік тому

      The most common substitute was usually human skulls and knees.

  • @user-xt4wr7yr9j
    @user-xt4wr7yr9j 10 місяців тому +1

    How can I get one like would wonderful ☘️💚🍀🇮🇪😉

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  10 місяців тому

      There are lots of makers if you are abroad the olde shillelagh shop is a good choice.

  • @peterjaimez1619
    @peterjaimez1619 9 місяців тому

    Exist muy lack of knowledge, arthropada & Doyle? Cheers

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  9 місяців тому

      Antrim and Doyle are the two styles

  • @ralphhinkle1874
    @ralphhinkle1874 7 місяців тому

    I just carry a ball bat

    • @ramblingkern
      @ramblingkern  7 місяців тому +1

      Nobody plays baseball in Ireland so it would be an unusual choice to carry.