Revisiting Dark Deity 1 year later: Has it improved? (no)

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 77

  • @renren47618
    @renren47618 2 роки тому +53

    "Dark Deity is my main inspiration as a game developer, certainly the best game of all times" - Hideo Kojima #darkdeitysweep

  • @losernerd9291
    @losernerd9291 2 роки тому +71

    OK here is my Dark Deity conspiracy theory. The words "Dark Deity" are synonyms for "Black God." In Slavic paganism there is a god named Tchernobog; a word that literally translates to Black God. Tchernobog is the main villain of the 1997 Build Engine FPS game "Blood" developed by Monolith Productions (they also made No One Lives Forever, F.E.A.R. and Xenoblade). The main character of Blood, Caleb, kills Tchernobog and in doing so inherits his powers. Caleb is voiced by Stephan Weyte, who would go on to play Greil, the father of the main character Ike, in the 2005 video game Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance for the Nintendo GameCube.
    So The Dark Deity was Ike's dad the whole time.

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt 2 роки тому +6

      Tchernobog... Tirnanog...?

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 2 роки тому +17

      Dude this is just obvious, there's no need to even point it out.

    • @juliakaeppel8762
      @juliakaeppel8762 2 роки тому +14

      monolith productions didnt make xenoblade, that was monolith soft

    • @losernerd9291
      @losernerd9291 2 роки тому

      @@LoudWaffle Fire Emblem fans are often very stupid and miss obvious stuff.

    • @chikoleefium5728
      @chikoleefium5728 2 роки тому +1

      different monoliths
      one made fps's, the other made xenoblade

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 2 роки тому +51

    Called it. The fix it in post mentality has led to people thinking *everything* will be fixed once the updates are done when in reality most of the time the devs stop updating halfway through. The only time I played a game where all my major complaints were fixed was in Kirby Star Allies, a game I thought started out fine and ended up great.

    • @just_a_tarnished4269
      @just_a_tarnished4269 2 роки тому +8

      No mans sky is another example of that

    • @awesomehazimex7410
      @awesomehazimex7410 2 роки тому +9

      ​@@just_a_tarnished4269 But then again for this to happen, the devs need to be actually competent and caring

    • @just_a_tarnished4269
      @just_a_tarnished4269 2 роки тому +4

      @@awesomehazimex7410 fair enough can't expect people to be passionate and trying to be proud of their work

  • @TheRedScizor
    @TheRedScizor 2 роки тому +93

    I don't think people realize how quality FE games really are. I know it's super unfair to compare indie devs to a massive company but still.

    • @hornetsilksong
      @hornetsilksong 2 роки тому +22

      Yeah we don't know how good we have it until we lose it. Who knew terrain made things so much more interesting, and the comfort of moving across a small map.
      Echoes maps were bad but not this bad lmao

    • @Amelanduil
      @Amelanduil 2 роки тому +14

      It's the difference of "wants to be fire emblem" and ">is< fire emblem"

    • @teecee1827
      @teecee1827 2 роки тому +16

      Vestaria saga has a very small team and good map design. It comes to a balance between dev team size and experience I think.

    • @ohandthefracking
      @ohandthefracking 2 роки тому +13

      @@teecee1827 i mean Kaga has like 20+ yrs experience AND he started FE as a franchise (plus he had TearRing and Berwick Saga's before)

    • @teecee1827
      @teecee1827 2 роки тому +2

      @@ohandthefracking Why do you think I said experience?

  • @iblekoblek
    @iblekoblek 2 роки тому +82

    I think it's kind of funny in a terrible way how after it released and people were like "Wait, this is terrible", a bunch of people went onto the internet calling them assholes for refunding it after they turned out to hate it. I get that you're an indie dev, and it's very impressive that you made this, but... You still made a bad game, people don't owe you money for it if they don't want to.

    • @PyrelordPazuzu
      @PyrelordPazuzu 2 роки тому +32

      Yeah, I saw that, "don't ask for a refund lol" is pretty telling that people don't advocate for consumer protection, to me it's pretty scummy to ask people to just accept the L when they don't have to.

    • @ohandthefracking
      @ohandthefracking 2 роки тому +25

      @@PyrelordPazuzu esp when a certain FE ytber said "support the community ffs"...i laughed for years

    • @PyrelordPazuzu
      @PyrelordPazuzu 2 роки тому +15

      ​@@ohandthefracking yeah, which makes it even more ironic as "he" still has not "supported the community"

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt 2 роки тому +7

      @@ohandthefracking I remember watching some reviews about Dark Deity that were pretty lukewarm but I don't really remember someone telling me to buy it just to support 'the community,' who was that if you don't mind?

    • @ohandthefracking
      @ohandthefracking 2 роки тому +8

      @@Kryptnyt it was.....
      Mekkah

  • @ardoleon8158
    @ardoleon8158 2 роки тому +28

    Dark Deity is what would have happen to fire emblem if Kaga never existed

    • @Ephraim225
      @Ephraim225 2 роки тому +9

      That's just a flat out lie right there.

  • @ChillstoneBlakeBlast
    @ChillstoneBlakeBlast 2 роки тому +29

    The abosolute state of Dark diety

    • @PyrelordPazuzu
      @PyrelordPazuzu 2 роки тому +8

      *sad supporting the community noises*

  • @hornetsilksong
    @hornetsilksong 2 роки тому +25

    uh wow it's like they spent most of the kickstarter budget on the character and loading screen art
    and the ost sounds like it was made for a generic mobile game

  • @amiasg9305
    @amiasg9305 2 роки тому +19

    I was so content starved that I was gonna buy this game but didn't when I read that the devs didn't have permadeath at all.

    • @hornetsilksong
      @hornetsilksong 2 роки тому +9

      I had this on my wishlist for like a year before wondering "huh why are there bad reviews" and "wait fe fans hate this?"
      Bullet dodged lol

    • @danielgiovanniello7217
      @danielgiovanniello7217 2 роки тому +1

      Ya know, I'd convinced myself at first that I enjoyed the game. Hell, I sunk fifteen hours into it
      But then I realized something: I wasn't having ANY fun playing it
      It felt like an absolute chore to finish

  • @frknspacewizardbrett6044
    @frknspacewizardbrett6044 2 роки тому +17

    11:10 Start (we get sound).
    24:30 Game start (it's all in Japanese)

  • @Klokinator
    @Klokinator 2 роки тому +37

    Forget Dark Deity. Just you wait until Symphony of War drops. I'm in the beta and it's GODLIKE. Best strategy game release in ten years!

    • @Excelblem
      @Excelblem  2 роки тому +28

      thanks for the recommendation, I think I'll try the demo out on stream tomorrow

    • @Klokinator
      @Klokinator 2 роки тому +7

      @@Excelblem It releases in a month or so. I got the beta key for Mangs, hope you get to play it too!

    • @Klokinator
      @Klokinator 2 роки тому +10

      @excelblem I talked to Phil, the dev. He wants to get you the beta code. Got a way he can contact you?

    • @Excelblem
      @Excelblem  2 роки тому +9

      @@Klokinator we got in touch 👍

    • @Klokinator
      @Klokinator 2 роки тому +5

      @@Excelblem Glad to hear that! I'm hoping to stream with Mangs on Tuesday. I'll watch your stream tomorrow or whenever it drops!

  • @paperluigi6132
    @paperluigi6132 2 роки тому +34

    You should try out Valkyria Chronicles.

    • @kingmetalnoslime4931
      @kingmetalnoslime4931 2 роки тому +1

      Why should he

    • @langleysenterprise5134
      @langleysenterprise5134 2 роки тому +2

      Hoo boy

    • @paperluigi6132
      @paperluigi6132 2 роки тому +18

      @@kingmetalnoslime4931 it’s an interesting tactical RPG.
      Also, there’s permadeath. And you know what Excel does when there’s permadeath.

    • @mauricesteel4995
      @mauricesteel4995 2 роки тому

      Yay, Warcrimes now with Wartanks and permadeath!

    • @Princetopher_
      @Princetopher_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@kingmetalnoslime4931 Seconded; Covenant of the Plume is incredibly interesting with its handling of permadeath and route splits and the way it all interconnects with the story and the development of its main character. It encourages sacrifice

  • @huntersmith1413
    @huntersmith1413 2 роки тому +26

    Whats the worst thing about Dark Deity? Never heard anything bad before but I havent played it myself though the map animations bug is pretty dang noticeable

    • @nightcloud2014
      @nightcloud2014 2 роки тому +32

      Map design is boring/uncreative. There's no real incentive to strategy, since Lincoln gets a built in Nosferatu, so it's actually optimal to have him solo the game.

    • @huntersmith1413
      @huntersmith1413 2 роки тому +3

      @@nightcloud2014 excuse me, a main character gets W H A T

    • @nightcloud2014
      @nightcloud2014 2 роки тому +17

      @@huntersmith1413 It's as broken as it sounds. It's I think he heals back 25% of all damage he deals, but dark deity has this weird weapon types in which EVERYONE gets a "killer weapon". Look at the last boss fight, he has above 50% crit chance at all times and he just heals infinitely.

    • @frknspacewizardbrett6044
      @frknspacewizardbrett6044 2 роки тому +13

      It's not just Lincoln. A few characters, including the mage, get access to a class with built in nosferatu (functions the same for all classes that get it, was originally 33% of damage dealt is healed, but they nerfed it to 20% now). The early mage can become a fire mage which has it. I tanked most of the game with that mage because of it, although you can't as easily anymore.

    • @Kryptnyt
      @Kryptnyt 2 роки тому +8

      The worst thing about Dark Deity is that it does a lot of things that I want to see (like built-in customizable run options, great!) and has some really nice animations, but the rest of the game fails to cohere it into something that isn't boring.

  • @rmd836
    @rmd836 Рік тому +1

    I think the horrible thing is that even as shitty as a lot of the maps look visually it would be fine if they were actually well-designed from a tactics perspective. I know you can't just throw money at every problem in order to fix it but it seems like they spent the whole development budget on character art and voice actors when they should've maybe hired some playtesters that had extensive prior experience with FE. Vestaria Saga looks like garbage but that's easy to stomach when the game is actually fun to play

  • @Cr4nched
    @Cr4nched 11 місяців тому +3

    Whoa I'm glad this popped up in my feed. I remember following this games development very closely! I was susrprised that they were spending so many resources on Voice Actors, I believe every character is voiced by someone different. They should have taken ALLLL of that money and put it toward gameplay development, because I played the game for about 15 minutes before abandoning it for good. Truly terrible game that hurt even more because I had anticipated it.
    I hear they're making a sequel. What a joke
    Also wow the morbius references in chat were cringe then and are EXTREMELY cringe now in restrospect

    • @maltheopia
      @maltheopia 10 місяців тому +1

      I don't have much hope for Dark Deity 2, because Dark Deity's problems stem from a game design philosophy that you see in pretty much every sRPG that's not Fire Emblem or Fire Emblem-derived like Vestaria Saga.
      Dark Deity's underlying problem is that stat inflation makes every strategy that's not 'throw a monster unit at a problem and snowball' a non-starter. Sure, the game could have more interesting map objectives and more terrain and less dead space, but it's ultimately pointless. Look at Final Fantasy Tactics: that game has a lot going on in its game engine, but it's ultimately pointless because you can make characters so individually powerful that they can ignore everything. The only two maps people remember from that game are Riovannes' Castle and Dorter Slums. Riovannes because the game throws two major curveballs in the gameplay (and then goes back to number penis comparisons afterwards) and Dorter because that's the last time crap like weather and terrain height mattered.

  • @zeloraz8101
    @zeloraz8101 2 роки тому +3

    Ay

  • @randommodnar1669
    @randommodnar1669 2 роки тому +1

    This game is NOT KINO

  • @fufzooz
    @fufzooz 2 роки тому +1

    It lacks good transitions and map battle animations :(

  • @owlbrother8050
    @owlbrother8050 2 роки тому +2

    Someone probably already said it but Bramimond is another FE character with a prolific hood

  • @benm3266
    @benm3266 2 роки тому +4

    I wouldn't pay triple a price for the game but it's been enjoyable for me. Sure if you go into it looking for everything wrong that you can find, you've already set it up for failure.
    Totally worth buying on sale if you're into strategy rpgs and have already played the big titles. I hope the devs can take all the criticism and turn it into a badass sequel

  • @selk8389
    @selk8389 Рік тому

    thnx 4 da strem