no one talks about how kitty is able to send Wolverine back in time without explanation, she isn't psychic, and there is no mention of a Secondary mutation
Well the video explains that in the comics she eventually was able to phase through time to her past self; the movie takes that one step further where she can do that to others and not just herself. The video explanation of the movie logic that Kitty was not born yet in 1973 while Wolverine was a full-body adult in 1973 fits as well why she would send him back in time.
But is no one going to talk about how in the comics that every super-powerd hero’s are dead but why is iron man he’s human he has no super human like abilities
Neither of them were the reality warping gods that we know today at the time. SW was still using her hex bolts to drop ceiling fans on people in the 80s; she was a slight step up from Black Cat's bad luck aura because she had control over it.
@@stepheneaton4978 ... didn't Magneto have her lobotomized as a preteen for fear of her powers? I think someone had to undo that to unlock those again. Wanda, Franklin, and Jean Grey are the only Class 5 mutants out there, if I remember.
You forgot to mention that the comic Sentinels didn't have that weird ability to adapt to powers that the movie Sentinels somehow managed to obtain from Mystique's completely unrelated shape-shifting abilities.
Nicole Diaz I’m old school reader and am not up to date with all their new power upgrades but rogues power was to mimic/copy powers when she came in contact with another mutant. With mystiques power she could only change her appearance not gain the power if the person she is mimicking. I just never understood the movies and how far they get away from the source material.
Even if Magneto is right, it's his fault that the future is the way we saw in DOFP. If he hadn't antagonized the humans so much or ruined Xavier's peacekeeping goals, then the humans wouldn't have built an army of giant robots programmed to kill all mutants.
Kitty Pryde learns, in the comics, that time doesn't work the way they thought. The many worlds interpretation ends up being how time works in the Marvel universe and all they did by going back was create a new timeline. So in the comics the DoFP future is just an alternate timeline from the main 616 universe but when the story came out the idea of the main Marvel universe being 616 wasn't established yet and at the time, the DoFp future was the future, not a possible/alternate future. Overall, as a comic book fan, it's hard not to love what Fox is doing woth he franchise. Event though its not the faithful adaptation all is nerds would love, it's still been a good interpretation and thats all I want. Go ahead and make changes and reinterpret the source material, just do it well. People only take issue with changing the source material when it ends up sucking. If you do it well, like Marvel has done, fans will accept it.
Personally, I think it's cool that there are differences in both the comics and the movies, because it creates a wider range of creativity and new exciting plot possibilities. For the movie, though, I think it would've been nice for there to be a few brief moments in the future that have Storm interact with the other characters; then we could either get to know their comic book origins, or we could get some new creative stories about their pasts. Overall, I love both versions of the Days of Future Past storyline.
+Ethan Lawrence Days of Future Past takes place before Origins:Wolverine,so due to that,the timeline changed and that monstrosity that was Deadpool in Origins never happened
***** At the facillity...in this new world,Deadpool might've just been scratching his balls instead of joining that experiment that made him a mutant hybrid
How the fuck is Iron Man a mutant? How the fuck do you kill Ghost Rider? How the fuck do you kill the Hulk? How the fuck did they kill Captain America and no one gave a shit? How the fuck everything?
Spider Zero True enough, but he has the damn stars and stripes on his back. If you kill him, people are going to flip the fuck out, no matter how dangerous you make them think mutants are.
The question why they didn't bring Quicksilver to Paris, was a production problem. In the original script, it was said that Xavier, McCoy and Logan Went for Juggernauts help, so they could free Magneto. When the studio was going to film the scene where they rescue Magneto, Fox told the production team that they wanted Brian Singer to use Quicksilver instead. Why they did this? it was to spit on Marvel Studios saying like, "yeah, you use QS on Age of Ultron, we can use him too! But he will now be part of our universe!" Brian Singer obviusly didn't have any problem with that, so he used QS and made a better character than QS from Age of Ultron. But I Think the reason he wasn't on the rest of the Movie was that he wasn't on the originall script. So that's it!
seanshellz That was Singer's Quicksilver, he is fast even faster than bullets, he has white hair, he is a mutant (like the first comics), he has a redhair sister, and his father is Magneto (like the first comics), he also knows Wolverine in the future, that means he was part of the X-Men like the comics. He has difference, but is just how Singer wsnted the character, he doesnt follow too much the comics.
Well the actual main reason for sending Wolverine instead of Professor X was because Wolverine was the only one who could actually go back that far because of his healing factor keeping his brain from getting ripped apart unlike Professor X who would've died attempting it. Charles having issues in the past had nothing to do with it since older Charles would've been the one in control of the body instead of damaged younger Charles.
Personally, I think the way they'd handled the movie was fucking fantastic, especially because of how much of a mess Marvel is with its continuities constantly overlapping and retconning each other.
Exactly. The Sentinels are actually scary. They set out to make the deadliest robots ever put on film... and they succeeded. And the core story hasn't changed. Someone from the future has to go back in time to stop Mystique from assassinating someone, leading to the destruction of all life on Earth. That's this movie. In the wake of Avatar, having Kitty send Logan back in time to his younger self, to his avatar in the 70s makes total sense. Hell, the animated series didn't even feature Kitty
And these same critics say that the last jedi and the new ghostbusters are great movies also. All the X-Men movies are just plain junk and plays on fan service, CGI and fast paced action and call it a story.
The Emerald Archer That I know, I meant complications with all continuity, alternate realities, multiverses, dead characters coming back to life, events which will form and change the entire world of comics as we know it, until they're done and all goes back to normal. Don't take me wrong I love comics and reading them not caring of the continuity is great but try to make all that sense I start hate on them xP
it all makes sense with good old paying attention and being devoted to something you love though, don'r let other's oppinions in videos to make the things complicated for you.
Another difference is that in the movie, Mystique sped up "Project: Wideawake" and makes the Sentinels stronger. The sentinel program would have gone through at some point even if they stopped her before Paris. In the comics, Kelly had nothing to do with the sentinels and that future was just a reaction to the assassination.
The reason Quicksilver is in the movie is because it's a giant middle finger from Fox to Marvel Studios. It was originally written as the Juggernaut, but when Marvel announced Quicksilver would be in the Avengers (the characters rights are owned by both companies), Fox changed the scene, so they could get the character onscreen first. Also of note - the reason Kitty Pride was given the time travel powers in the film was to nod to the original comic. She only has one power in the comics, but they gave her two for the films. (No explanation about how she has two powers IN the film, but I'm guessing they'd just call it a secondary mutation, kinda like Emma Frost.)
I guess Fox's DOFP was good for a movie. But the comic version was far greater. It redefined comics and how dramatic they could be. In my book probably the best super-hero story ever made.
When I read Claremont's and Byrne's run on X-men, I thought to myself ,"This ought to be in the X-men movies." And then The Last Stand's treatment of the Dark Phoenix saga made me lose all hope in that ever properly happening. Then X-men Origins: Wolverine was released, and whatever hope that had remained was completely gone. I thought First Class was mediocre, and that the Wolverine was pointless filler. So naturally when I heard about Days of Future Past, I was angered. The movie was released, and I watched it. Best X-men movie ever.
3 was better than DoFP. All that depressing shit with Charles pretty much bring a dope fiend, the fact that Jennifer doesn't have a demanding control of the camera's attention like Rebecca does, the story was boring, I mean I'll watch some of it if it's on cable, but I'm changing the channel at the first commercial break. X3 had Kelsey Grammer who I've always loved, way better visuals, way more bad ass not just fight scenes but full on battle scenes, shocking Xavier death, a sweet and almost human quote from Erik after Xavier's death, epic climax with another death, X3 was easily better than DoFP. Scott dies. Nothing more needs to be said. Jean Grey in her underwear. Ok, now nothing more needs to be said.
2 was probably the best DOFP had scenes that no superhero fan wants to see seeing Colossus pulled apart, or any of the other deaths is not 'entertainment' for a fan it's pretty traumatic; grand sacrifices are another category
Even though Wolverine got sent back in time, I don't consider him the main character. It's more Charles' and Raven's story than Wolverine. Great video though
That's why I like the film. It takes place in a post apocalyptic future, which The Sentinel robots have taken over the world. Professor X decides to send Wolverwine (Whom has a metal skeleton) back through time to stop Mystique (A shapeshifter) from assassinating the Sentinel's creator Bolivar Trask and to convince a long haired young Professor X (John Connor) to help him stop Mystique. When Wolverwine wakes up in 1973, he is bare naked. (The Terminators and Kyle Reese arrive in the past without clothes).
I would kind of like to see the Kitty version animated or something. Also, they could have avoided a lot of crap if they brought Quicksilver. It was great to see him (best part of the movie) but unfortunately he was too OP for the plot.
Yeah I could of worded that better. I ment that the comic book and movies versions of age of ultron are totally different. And the comic version is similar to days of future past
+CineFix check most of those comments on the Homemade Movies playlist. We are all asking for Captain America Civil War Trailer 2. Do it! (I'm a big fan)
Wasn't "in a way". They had a two episode deal with it, however in the cartoon version they sent Bishop back to kill the creator of the sentinels. Don't believe Mystique was involved at all.
That son from the Summers family later on becomes a badass humanoid robot.......who will later be portrayed by Josh Brolin who plays the Mad Titan. Roses for this man.
I would like to see you compare and contrast the "Days of Future Past" story arc in the X-Men animated series with the movie version. This is where Bishop is sent into the past using a Vortex Manipulator that Forge stole from Torchwood...I mean...invented to send Wolverine back, but Wolverine was scorched down to his skeleton by a fight with the Sentinels, leaving Bishop as the only choice to go on the mission since Forge had to stay in the future to guide him with the computer system. That storyline was EXTREMELY interesting as it then creates an ALTERNATE future where Cable then comes into the past to STOP Bishop from changing things, and has to wear a device that keeps him grounded in the original future, because by Bishop changing the future it destroyed Cable's family. Though it was fun to watch Cable still be in the second Deadpool movie.
Agreed. I was really looking forward to seeing a young Kitty struggle with becoming a hero in a giant block-buster motion picture. Could have been as epic as "Empire Strikes Back". Instead they took the path of least resistance and made another Wolverine movie. It was still pretty good, just not as epic as it could have been if the studio had been braver.
+Julio Martins I mean I love Wolverine, but why the HELL Hollywood has to over use him & always put him up front?? why they were scare to let wolverine die as he actually did in the book, & let other mutants take more depth as heroes? & why DA SHIT do they had to kill Colossus twice ?? he was 1 of the few last survivors to the very end & in the films he dies easy,, fuck this film man
I think if she did go back in the movie the plot would have been slowed down and most likely she wouldn't have been born by the year in the movie (1973).
This is the second what's the difference I've watched today. Both times, I laughed my ass off at the ending. My God. That's comedy gold, man. How these guys simultaneously make fun of a character while making fun of, well, me, is genius. Beautiful. Obviously, I'm a fan.
Yo I barely could keep up with this. I can hardly keep up with DC comics multiverse theories too. But for the most part I understood and it was a really awesome video. I learned a lot.
TheMooseFigs Good I don't know why but at first i thought you were referencing one of the Hollywood movies to do with the comic and I was like "Whatt?!"
I don't know that there'd be anything to contrast, really. Other than the progression of Joker's reemergence (he wakes up near the beginning in the comic but doesn't get released and appear on TV until after the Mutant problem is over, whereas in the movies, he wakes up and says "Batman....darling." when he hears Batman's name on the newscast talking about the Mutants' defeat, or the last line of movie 1) and some minor dialogue changes (most notably the absence of a lot of the inner monologues, which is fine, inner monologues don't work very well in film compare to in comics, and the ideas of them still come across), the movies are basically identical.
How many versions of this story are there? Comic, 90s toon, movie, WatXM, is that it? Main difference: it's NEVER Kitty who goes back after the original comic! In the 90s toon it was Bishop, here it's Wolverine, in Wolverine and the X-Men it was Professor X who went forward and could only occasionally communicate as they gained clues on how it all went down. Kitty gets no respect.
X-Men: Days of Future Past is great in its own right even if it does stray from the source material. One of the best comic book movies around and the best X-Men movie to date. I love what Fox is doing with this series now and I really can't wait for X-Men: Apocalypse.
Yeah, I hate to admit it, but, in this one occasion, if they had stayed true to the comic, the movie probably would've sucked. (Though it would've been cool to see wolverine incinerated into a metal skeleton) I'm just glad that this movie makes all the other X-men movies irrelevant, like they never happened. Hopefully FOX learned their lesson and will do the X-men movie franchise justice from now on. They can only use the time travel escape boat once!!! *FINGERS CROSSED
I'm thinking this is when they weren't sure where Ghost Rider's powers come from. Remember that Mephesto more of a Ret-Con to remove any real Religious signs from it. Still, I agree, how the fuck does a sentinel kill Otherworldly, or Omega level characters that defy universal logic.
***** True. All the X-Men films had pros and cons, but the fanboys just sh*t on X3 because Singer didn't direct it. The film was DOA the moment he jumped ship for DC's Superman Returns.
Kool Keith Productions X-Men 3 is a great guilty pleasure! Sure, there's some dreadful writing, but it has Archangel, the character deaths are shocking and ballsy and the final battle is epic as fuck!
my two biggest problems with DOFP the movie are Kitty's powers and the Sentinels. those Sentinels were such a disappointment. no laser palms, (probably) adamantium tentacles, no awesome color scheme. these things looked like knock offs of the Destroyer from Thor. and then there's my beloved Kitty. I hate that they gave her a new ability without any explanation. why couldn't they have used a different, new, character to send Wolvie back or have Rogue do it by absorbing the power from someone else. I could go on and on
+GoddessOfWhim2003 I remember watching this with my friend at the cinema and even then I thought they did look like Destroyer's. Also I'm more of a colossus fan, so I was just happy he was there, but yeah the Kitty power add was weird, 'specially since they introduced new mutants in the team, so why not just add another.
@@shoopmahboop1374 so him expressing that he was disappointed with the sentines and the movie not explaining where kitty got that new power from mens he's complaining?
The X-Men movie franchise is a fine example of how to properly fix past mistakes in storytelling. It's more concise and contained in the DOFP movie as opposed to the comics. I think this portrays how change in story structure can actually be a good thing.
Wait. You're telling me, Hollywood replace the lead woman from the source material with a man? That'd be like telling the story of the founding of the Avengers without including Wasp!
Meh, you heard it yourself. The continuity REALLY needed fixing. I don't know how old Kitty is in film, but she's 13 in the 80s. The film is in most part 1973, so they had only three options. Also, Hugh Jackman's box office draw had to be apart of the decision.
It's a well played mock shock. Wasp is from the Ant-Man comic, he was originally Hank Pym in the comic if I remember correctly. and both are part of founding of the Avengers. We'll see Wasp in the next Ant-Man movie.
wolverine was sent back because he was the only one who could heal anyone else their mind would be ripped apart also they orginally meant to send back charles xavier but he would have died
They should have used kitty, they should have time traveled to the first movie and saved senator Kelly . That was the perfect setup right from the first x-men movie.
You should analyze the differnce between "The Warriors" cult classic picture by Walter Hill and the novel, written by Sol Yurick, that inspired the creation of the movie. P.S.: the novel was already inspired by a Greek story.
+Miskir Weldezion True. I mean the kid is immensely powerful and coukd be a cool story driver and character but the writers after Jonathan Hickman's run on Fantastic Four did not know what to do with him.
this film does pretty drop all the sequel hook plotthreads from first class (such as the birth of magneto's brotherhood) as well as simoultaneously kill off several characters from the film offscreen merely to jusitfy Mystique's hatred of trask and her loss of trust between xavier and magneto (though you gotta ignore how she pretty much betrays a guy who's protected her from childhood for a murderous asshat she barely knew...) basically the film's good, but it has some flaws. just putting it out there.
Same here. I started reading in 1980, at age 10. It was actually 13 yr old Kitty Pryde that made me get into the X-Men and stay with them. So yeah, I remember reading the comic version of this story and was thrilled when I heard they were going to make a movie adaptation. That excitement died a quick death when I realized that the movie was going to be soooooo different and Kitty won't play a real role in it.... and NO I don't think "oh we're switching Logan for Kitty, so for the fans we'll pop her to the role of the 'Person Who Can Send Other's Minds Into the Past' as a good compensation (mainly because it was so sudden and no excuse how she could do that)
I was kind of hoping you guys would bring up the days of future past story from the 90s cartoon as well where bishop was sent back in time to stop senator kelly from getting assassinated by mystique...but mystique was posing as gambit so bishop thought he had to kill gambit
I'd recommend listening to the Graphic Audio presentation of "Xmen: Days of Future Past". It comes pretty close to the comics and has the action and flow that you'd expect from a movie.
If it wasn't for Reed Richards (Mister Fantastic) & Tony Stark (Iron Man) for development of the Mark 5 Sentinels this would've never happened. Just one of those newly Mark 5 Sentinels could kill perhaps the entire X men if not combated properly. Also, the non mutant heroes teamed up with the Sentinels and they defeated the mutants then double crossed the heroes, killed them, and afterwards put the mutants in concentration camps.
Marvel already has a sprawling cinematic universe, incorporating the X-Men would fuck continuity all to hell. Also, Fox has no reason to either reboot or sell the rights lmao wtf
no mention of Nimrod...who is the ultimate sentinel ...able to travel through time, change his appearance, and basically do the T2 liquid thing metal before T2 came out,,,,also the creators of Superjail copied the look and shape of him for their robot!
Quick question how can The sentinels have killed Ghostrider? I thought that since ghost rider is a spirit of vengeance he couldn’t die unless with holy weapons?
+Luke sol maybe not the only one, but in the small minority, I for one think the first wolverine movie is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be and actually enjoy it, but yeah I thought last stand was just okay, but as good as the first one? LOL, nope.
Luke sol I never said it was a bad film, like origins I don't get the hate, and sorry I misinterpreted your words, at first I thought you meant is as good as the first one, even I know origins isn't that good, just like last stand is just okay, to me and most of the fans apparently the best ones are X1 and X2 the order differs but those are top 2, as for the rest, the order again differs put origins and last stand always are bottom 2
Luke sol then yeah you are pretty much alone if you think last stand can even begin to come close to any bryan singer x men movie. there's a big difference between enjoying a movie and thinking a movie is actually good
no one talks about how kitty is able to send Wolverine back in time without explanation, she isn't psychic, and there is no mention of a Secondary mutation
I think it may be that she can transverse the mind memory walls that’s my guess
Well the video explains that in the comics she eventually was able to phase through time to her past self; the movie takes that one step further where she can do that to others and not just herself. The video explanation of the movie logic that Kitty was not born yet in 1973 while Wolverine was a full-body adult in 1973 fits as well why she would send him back in time.
But is no one going to talk about how in the comics that every super-powerd hero’s are dead but why is iron man he’s human he has no super human like abilities
@@martinbell9620 it was just an oversimplification that meant superpowered people, which can mean villains and heroes, and superheroes without powers.
She is using her original power, but instead of Brick and Mortar walls, it is the Fabric of _Reality itself_
Wait, don't mutants like Franklin Richards and Scarlet Witch have reality changing abilities? The Sentinels literally have no defense against that.
Gootothesecond Well, it's logical your argument but the story needed they death. It's wasn't a Avengers or FF story.
Neither of them were the reality warping gods that we know today at the time. SW was still using her hex bolts to drop ceiling fans on people in the 80s; she was a slight step up from Black Cat's bad luck aura because she had control over it.
Neither had those powers at the time DoFP was written
@@stepheneaton4978 ... didn't Magneto have her lobotomized as a preteen for fear of her powers? I think someone had to undo that to unlock those again. Wanda, Franklin, and Jean Grey are the only Class 5 mutants out there, if I remember.
I kinda want to see how they took out Ghost Rider, what with whole "being a very supernatural being" thing.
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CineFix ...and then the story picks up again RIGHT NOW with the current Marvel: Secret Wars tie ins
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It’s uncanny how you basically wrote out the exact dialogue Bruce used in Endgame to explain time travel 4 years beforehand.
You forgot to mention that the comic Sentinels didn't have that weird ability to adapt to powers that the movie Sentinels somehow managed to obtain from Mystique's completely unrelated shape-shifting abilities.
Well, there's was a Nimrod series shown in TAS at least. They were beasty enough.
crro I don’t think that’s a bad change tbh. Adapting the powers is a kinda creative way to take down mutants.
They should’ve used Rogue for that
Nicole Diaz I’m old school reader and am not up to date with all their new power upgrades but rogues power was to mimic/copy powers when she came in contact with another mutant. With mystiques power she could only change her appearance not gain the power if the person she is mimicking. I just never understood the movies and how far they get away from the source material.
cyke90 same as you. Problem was Fox, but mainly Singer.
Days of Future Past came out in 2014 not 2011
Oh balls I thought we fixed that...
CineFix You did, but only in the alternate timeline. ;-)
Maybe literally in a different Premiere Pro timeline :D
***** You win.
ToshiUchiha7 I win?! Didn't realize there was a contest. What do I win? ;-)
So what I've learned is:
1. (Movie) Magneto was right.
2. (Comic) Katherine Pryde didn't change anything.
14DANESSJ correct
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Even if Magneto is right, it's his fault that the future is the way we saw in DOFP. If he hadn't antagonized the humans so much or ruined Xavier's peacekeeping goals, then the humans wouldn't have built an army of giant robots programmed to kill all mutants.
and Days of Future Present was Horrible !!
Kitty Pryde learns, in the comics, that time doesn't work the way they thought. The many worlds interpretation ends up being how time works in the Marvel universe and all they did by going back was create a new timeline. So in the comics the DoFP future is just an alternate timeline from the main 616 universe but when the story came out the idea of the main Marvel universe being 616 wasn't established yet and at the time, the DoFp future was the future, not a possible/alternate future.
Overall, as a comic book fan, it's hard not to love what Fox is doing woth he franchise. Event though its not the faithful adaptation all is nerds would love, it's still been a good interpretation and thats all I want. Go ahead and make changes and reinterpret the source material, just do it well. People only take issue with changing the source material when it ends up sucking. If you do it well, like Marvel has done, fans will accept it.
Personally, I think it's cool that there are differences in both the comics and the movies, because it creates a wider range of creativity and new exciting plot possibilities. For the movie, though, I think it would've been nice for there to be a few brief moments in the future that have Storm interact with the other characters; then we could either get to know their comic book origins, or we could get some new creative stories about their pasts. Overall, I love both versions of the Days of Future Past storyline.
I hope deadpool becomes part of the x-men movies and comments on everything that they changed from the comic to the movie.
+Ethan Lawrence have you seen Deadpool? He makes a few references to the series and it's changing continuity
Have you heard of the xforce
+Ethan Lawrence Days of Future Past takes place before Origins:Wolverine,so due to that,the timeline changed and that monstrosity that was Deadpool in Origins never happened
though in the Deadpool movie they did hint at the Three Mile Island facility where Wolverine got his adamantium.
***** At the facillity...in this new world,Deadpool might've just been scratching his balls instead of joining that experiment that made him a mutant hybrid
How the fuck is Iron Man a mutant?
How the fuck do you kill Ghost Rider?
How the fuck do you kill the Hulk?
How the fuck did they kill Captain America and no one gave a shit?
How the fuck everything?
Do you read comics? Every hero dies at least a few times.
Dude Captain America is esay to kill, but those other things I have no idea.
Vlad Ivanovici I'm not sure how you can classify Black Panther as a mutant either. But ,as Movie Bob says, COMICS ARE WEIRD!
Dallas Harper Death = a power nap in comics!
Spider Zero True enough, but he has the damn stars and stripes on his back. If you kill him, people are going to flip the fuck out, no matter how dangerous you make them think mutants are.
I liked the comic better because Kitty is my favortie mutant. :)
I'm amazed at how well the thumbnail of this lines up. They really did a good job casting Hugh Jackman for Wolverine...
Watching this in 2023. That’s funny
Lol
I rewatched the movie last weekend, I snorted really loud seeing the 2023 time stamp
Loil
The question why they didn't bring Quicksilver to Paris, was a production problem. In the original script, it was said that Xavier, McCoy and Logan Went for Juggernauts help, so they could free Magneto. When the studio was going to film the scene where they rescue Magneto, Fox told the production team that they wanted Brian Singer to use Quicksilver instead. Why they did this? it was to spit on Marvel Studios saying like, "yeah, you use QS on Age of Ultron, we can use him too! But he will now be part of our universe!" Brian Singer obviusly didn't have any problem with that, so he used QS and made a better character than QS from Age of Ultron. But I Think the reason he wasn't on the rest of the Movie was that he wasn't on the originall script. So that's it!
He will have a better a role in X-Men Apocalypsis, seems like DOFP made him famous in the X-Men universe
that wasn't quicksilver that was a American named peter get your facts straight
seanshellz That was Singer's Quicksilver, he is fast even faster than bullets, he has white hair, he is a mutant (like the first comics), he has a redhair sister, and his father is Magneto (like the first comics), he also knows Wolverine in the future, that means he was part of the X-Men like the comics. He has difference, but is just how Singer wsnted the character, he doesnt follow too much the comics.
Well the actual main reason for sending Wolverine instead of Professor X was because Wolverine was the only one who could actually go back that far because of his healing factor keeping his brain from getting ripped apart unlike Professor X who would've died attempting it. Charles having issues in the past had nothing to do with it since older Charles would've been the one in control of the body instead of damaged younger Charles.
In movie reasons is not what they were talking about. They were talking about the out of movie reasons.
Personally, I think the way they'd handled the movie was fucking fantastic, especially because of how much of a mess Marvel is with its continuities constantly overlapping and retconning each other.
Exactly. The Sentinels are actually scary. They set out to make the deadliest robots ever put on film... and they succeeded. And the core story hasn't changed. Someone from the future has to go back in time to stop Mystique from assassinating someone, leading to the destruction of all life on Earth. That's this movie. In the wake of Avatar, having Kitty send Logan back in time to his younger self, to his avatar in the 70s makes total sense. Hell, the animated series didn't even feature Kitty
You are mistaking DC for Marvel. DC is always retconning thier comics. Also all the X-Men movies are bad.
Says YOU. A lot of critics agree that Days of Future Past is one of the best CBMs ever.
And these same critics say that the last jedi and the new ghostbusters are great movies also. All the X-Men movies are just plain junk and plays on fan service, CGI and fast paced action and call it a story.
The changes the studio made for this movie were horrendous awful movie
Comicbooks are so complicated....
The Emerald Archer That I know, I meant complications with all continuity, alternate realities, multiverses, dead characters coming back to life, events which will form and change the entire world of comics as we know it, until they're done and all goes back to normal. Don't take me wrong I love comics and reading them not caring of the continuity is great but try to make all that sense I start hate on them xP
Samini the B yea especially with this multiverse bullshit
Graphic novels are more straightforward.
it all makes sense with good old paying attention and being devoted to something you love though, don'r let other's oppinions in videos to make the things complicated for you.
Samini the B I can't read any mainstream comics
Another difference is that in the movie, Mystique sped up "Project: Wideawake" and makes the Sentinels stronger. The sentinel program would have gone through at some point even if they stopped her before Paris. In the comics, Kelly had nothing to do with the sentinels and that future was just a reaction to the assassination.
Can you do - Whats the Difference? - 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep / Ridley Scott's Blade Runner Film? Would be good ;)
Toby Kearton Not in one video, they can't. ;-)
***** Would be one long video ;)
Toby Kearton i wanted see it do androids dream of electric sheep/blade runner please!!
nick ward Short story has _nothing_ to do with its actual length. In a short story, characters do not develop, they simply exist.
nick ward It's almost 200 pages long.
He gets incinerated until nothing but his adamantium skeleton remains...
damn thats brutal...
He still would’ve survived because he’s been incinerated to the bone before
I thought his source of healing factor cames from his claw
He also gets thrown into the sun by the Hulk.
@@yamiyaro his healing factor was his mutation. The adamantium was the result of a gov't experiment
@@dustinkuhn7450 i know, what i mean was his source of healing factor is his claw not the adamantium coating
The reason Quicksilver is in the movie is because it's a giant middle finger from Fox to Marvel Studios. It was originally written as the Juggernaut, but when Marvel announced Quicksilver would be in the Avengers (the characters rights are owned by both companies), Fox changed the scene, so they could get the character onscreen first.
Also of note - the reason Kitty Pride was given the time travel powers in the film was to nod to the original comic. She only has one power in the comics, but they gave her two for the films. (No explanation about how she has two powers IN the film, but I'm guessing they'd just call it a secondary mutation, kinda like Emma Frost.)
I guess Fox's DOFP was good for a movie. But the comic version was far greater. It redefined comics and how dramatic they could be. In my book probably the best super-hero story ever made.
Not really the comic was just a generic future is bad story
6:14 That looks almost exactly like Hugh Jackman
When I read Claremont's and Byrne's run on X-men, I thought to myself ,"This ought to be in the X-men movies." And then The Last Stand's treatment of the Dark Phoenix saga made me lose all hope in that ever properly happening. Then X-men Origins: Wolverine was released, and whatever hope that had remained was completely gone. I thought First Class was mediocre, and that the Wolverine was pointless filler. So naturally when I heard about Days of Future Past, I was angered. The movie was released, and I watched it. Best X-men movie ever.
3 was better than DoFP. All that depressing shit with Charles pretty much bring a dope fiend, the fact that Jennifer doesn't have a demanding control of the camera's attention like Rebecca does, the story was boring, I mean I'll watch some of it if it's on cable, but I'm changing the channel at the first commercial break.
X3 had Kelsey Grammer who I've always loved, way better visuals, way more bad ass not just fight scenes but full on battle scenes, shocking Xavier death, a sweet and almost human quote from Erik after Xavier's death, epic climax with another death, X3 was easily better than DoFP.
Scott dies. Nothing more needs to be said.
Jean Grey in her underwear. Ok, now nothing more needs to be said.
2 was probably the best
DOFP had scenes that no superhero fan wants to see
seeing Colossus pulled apart, or any of the other deaths is not 'entertainment' for a fan
it's pretty traumatic;
grand sacrifices are another category
DoFP is one of the GOAT comic book movies. Even though it didn’t stick to comics 100%, it did the story right.
Even though Wolverine got sent back in time, I don't consider him the main character. It's more Charles' and Raven's story than Wolverine.
Great video though
I knew things were obviously changed for the movie but I didn't realize just how much was changed.. good video!
all super hero movies are very different from the comics.
1:26 *2014. You're thinking of First Class.
Right, I was confused at first.
I thought "Wait.. I'm not THAT old.."
Woo-Hoo! U finally got it up! Wow that came out wrong XD The video I mean :D
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Omg omg its Bandit plus reply
That's why I like the film. It takes place in a post apocalyptic future, which The Sentinel robots have taken over the world. Professor X decides to send Wolverwine (Whom has a metal skeleton) back through time to stop Mystique (A shapeshifter) from assassinating the Sentinel's creator Bolivar Trask and to convince a long haired young Professor X (John Connor) to help him stop Mystique. When Wolverwine wakes up in 1973, he is bare naked. (The Terminators and Kyle Reese arrive in the past without clothes).
12:48 Cats and dogs living together. Mass hysteria!
I would kind of like to see the Kitty version animated or something.
Also, they could have avoided a lot of crap if they brought Quicksilver. It was great to see him (best part of the movie) but unfortunately he was too OP for the plot.
Not gonna lie, I clicked because of the thumbnail. Perfect side-by-side!
Do Age of Ultron!
What's the difference? Everything.
Harris Walter
Yeah the comic age of ultron resembles days of future past but not to much
Doom 1353 What?
Yeah I could of worded that better. I ment that the comic book and movies versions of age of ultron are totally different. And the comic version is similar to days of future past
love all the doctor who references
Yay! I'm glad someone caught hose!!!!
+CineFix check most of those comments on the Homemade Movies playlist. We are all asking for Captain America Civil War Trailer 2. Do it! (I'm a big fan)
That M mark on the face is something from another area of comic lore - Bishop's future, where all mutants are marked like that.
The mural at 10:27, possibly The French Revolution. Is that Wolverine in lower left?
Would have been nice to see the cartoon differences as well. Since they totally covered this story (in a way).
Wasn't "in a way". They had a two episode deal with it, however in the cartoon version they sent Bishop back to kill the creator of the sentinels. Don't believe Mystique was involved at all.
It was pretty much the same, only Bishop replaced Kitty. He physically went back in time to stop Mystique.
That son from the Summers family later on becomes a badass humanoid robot.......who will later be portrayed by Josh Brolin who plays the Mad Titan. Roses for this man.
I would like to see you compare and contrast the "Days of Future Past" story arc in the X-Men animated series with the movie version. This is where Bishop is sent into the past using a Vortex Manipulator that Forge stole from Torchwood...I mean...invented to send Wolverine back, but Wolverine was scorched down to his skeleton by a fight with the Sentinels, leaving Bishop as the only choice to go on the mission since Forge had to stay in the future to guide him with the computer system.
That storyline was EXTREMELY interesting as it then creates an ALTERNATE future where Cable then comes into the past to STOP Bishop from changing things, and has to wear a device that keeps him grounded in the original future, because by Bishop changing the future it destroyed Cable's family. Though it was fun to watch Cable still be in the second Deadpool movie.
I'm loving these What's the Difference segments. Please keep them up! Can you guys do a The Wolverine vs Wolverine Japan Saga?
The film came out in 2014, not 2011.
First class was in 2011
when I heard 2011, I was just mumbling to myself.. ''I thought it came out like 2 years ago..''
You guys are awesome!! What's the Difference, Art of the Scene, Top 10 Things You Didn't Know - Please don't stop!
Kitty Pryde is the true hero, and the movie totally screw her over.
Agreed. I was really looking forward to seeing a young Kitty struggle with becoming a hero in a giant block-buster motion picture. Could have been as epic as "Empire Strikes Back". Instead they took the path of least resistance and made another Wolverine movie. It was still pretty good, just not as epic as it could have been if the studio had been braver.
+Joel Hassig Exactly.
+Julio Martins I mean I love Wolverine, but why the HELL Hollywood has to over use him & always put him up front?? why they were scare to let wolverine die as he actually did in the book, & let other mutants take more depth as heroes? & why DA SHIT do they had to kill Colossus twice ?? he was 1 of the few last survivors to the very end & in the films he dies easy,, fuck this film man
I think if she did go back in the movie the plot would have been slowed down and most likely she wouldn't have been born by the year in the movie (1973).
And in the movie thy send wolverine back in t ti me because of his healing factor, they were going to send charles back.
4:31
Bro could have said anything but “kids.” Now I’m on a watch list.
They don’t even look like “kids”, they look like grown adults in their 20s
4:08 Why is iron man classified as powered? Can't he just take off the armor then be fine because he's completely normal except for his armor
Yeah, Tony is just the Bruce of Marvel. Kick ass brain, kick ass gadgets, but no real super powers to speak of.
Yes, I love how in-dept ya'll went with the comic's lore here on this one! XD
This is the second what's the difference I've watched today. Both times, I laughed my ass off at the ending. My God. That's comedy gold, man. How these guys simultaneously make fun of a character while making fun of, well, me, is genius. Beautiful. Obviously, I'm a fan.
Yo I barely could keep up with this. I can hardly keep up with DC comics multiverse theories too. But for the most part I understood and it was a really awesome video. I learned a lot.
Could you guys do The Dark Knight Returns?
TheMooseFigs Yes
TheMooseFigs With what movie? The animated one?
Ken Clouds Yea
TheMooseFigs Good I don't know why but at first i thought you were referencing one of the Hollywood movies to do with the comic and I was like "Whatt?!"
I don't know that there'd be anything to contrast, really. Other than the progression of Joker's reemergence (he wakes up near the beginning in the comic but doesn't get released and appear on TV until after the Mutant problem is over, whereas in the movies, he wakes up and says "Batman....darling." when he hears Batman's name on the newscast talking about the Mutants' defeat, or the last line of movie 1) and some minor dialogue changes (most notably the absence of a lot of the inner monologues, which is fine, inner monologues don't work very well in film compare to in comics, and the ideas of them still come across), the movies are basically identical.
How many versions of this story are there? Comic, 90s toon, movie, WatXM, is that it?
Main difference: it's NEVER Kitty who goes back after the original comic! In the 90s toon it was Bishop, here it's Wolverine, in Wolverine and the X-Men it was Professor X who went forward and could only occasionally communicate as they gained clues on how it all went down. Kitty gets no respect.
So basically the time travel in the comics was like the Trunks/Androids/Cell Saga of Dragon Ball Z.
2011??? We forgive you thought the video was kickass
VinceMX lmao the video was "kickass"
the video kicks ass*
X-Men: Days of Future Past is great in its own right even if it does stray from the source material. One of the best comic book movies around and the best X-Men movie to date. I love what Fox is doing with this series now and I really can't wait for X-Men: Apocalypse.
"All the X-Men are gonna get on their horses..."
I see what you did there ;)
Yeah, I hate to admit it, but, in this one occasion, if they had stayed true to the comic, the movie probably would've sucked. (Though it would've been cool to see wolverine incinerated into a metal skeleton) I'm just glad that this movie makes all the other X-men movies irrelevant, like they never happened. Hopefully FOX learned their lesson and will do the X-men movie franchise justice from now on. They can only use the time travel escape boat once!!! *FINGERS CROSSED
They won't. As long as they keep using the same director that dropped the xmen series to make that godawful superman returns movie.
And the apocalypse came out lol
And dark Phoenix came out lmao
And now they have no X-Men lol. I wish they could've made it more faithful
I just wanna say, that is SUCH a dope thumbnail. Kudos to who designed this
wait how the fuck did the sentinels kill ghost rider?
as well as all of the omega level mutants...what of the the god level characters like Thor, and how would the sentinels view some one like Ultron?
Editorial choices... get real!
I'm thinking this is when they weren't sure where Ghost Rider's powers come from. Remember that Mephesto more of a Ret-Con to remove any real Religious signs from it. Still, I agree, how the fuck does a sentinel kill Otherworldly, or Omega level characters that defy universal logic.
wayne king
Chambers also killed Ghost Rider you know.. in alternate reality.AGE OF X
They sucked the spirit out of his dick
Dang it! Now I have to go get these comics from the library and read them again because I'm getting nostalgic.
I'm still confused but it's ok
at 12:33, the picture you used for Boom Boom is Dazzler.
I'm starting to think that I'm the only poor bastard who really enjoyed X3
*****
True. All the X-Men films had pros and cons, but the fanboys just sh*t on X3 because Singer didn't direct it. The film was DOA the moment he jumped ship for DC's Superman Returns.
I really enjoy X-Men 3 as well :)
But I do understand why it is bad
Fabio González I actually think that X3 is the strongest film of the original trilogy #BabyDontHurtMe
Kool Keith Productions I liked it too.
Kool Keith Productions X-Men 3 is a great guilty pleasure! Sure, there's some dreadful writing, but it has Archangel, the character deaths are shocking and ballsy and the final battle is epic as fuck!
Quicksilver is one mutant that would most certainly survive during the apocalypse ad also be able to save everyone else if they ever got into trouble.
my two biggest problems with DOFP the movie are Kitty's powers and the Sentinels. those Sentinels were such a disappointment. no laser palms, (probably) adamantium tentacles, no awesome color scheme. these things looked like knock offs of the Destroyer from Thor. and then there's my beloved Kitty. I hate that they gave her a new ability without any explanation. why couldn't they have used a different, new, character to send Wolvie back or have Rogue do it by absorbing the power from someone else. I could go on and on
+GoddessOfWhim2003 i think you just like to complain
it's the internet, everyone complains on the internet
+GoddessOfWhim2003 I remember watching this with my friend at the cinema and even then I thought they did look like Destroyer's. Also I'm more of a colossus fan, so I was just happy he was there, but yeah the Kitty power add was weird, 'specially since they introduced new mutants in the team, so why not just add another.
@@shoopmahboop1374 so him expressing that he was disappointed with the sentines and the movie not explaining where kitty got that new power from mens he's complaining?
I watched all the other videos in the playlist last night and this seems too good to be true...
It's true!!!!!
Fun Fact: Juggernaut was supposed to be in Days of Future Past, not Quicksilver.
The X-Men movie franchise is a fine example of how to properly fix past mistakes in storytelling. It's more concise and contained in the DOFP movie as opposed to the comics. I think this portrays how change in story structure can actually be a good thing.
So the rules of time travel in the MCU are indeed consistent with the time travel rules from the comics.
and the rule that all diferences between comics and movies are due to alternate realities.
the adaptation is very good, Bryan Singer is the balance between Marvel super fun and DC super dark
Wait. You're telling me, Hollywood replace the lead woman from the source material with a man? That'd be like telling the story of the founding of the Avengers without including Wasp!
Meh, you heard it yourself. The continuity REALLY needed fixing. I don't know how old Kitty is in film, but she's 13 in the 80s. The film is in most part 1973, so they had only three options. Also, Hugh Jackman's box office draw had to be apart of the decision.
NewYorkPictureCo Not just any man. Hugh Jackman, thats why.
NewYorkPictureCo yea they replaced her by Black Widow! now go back to your room, kid.
It's a well played mock shock.
Wasp is from the Ant-Man comic, he was originally Hank Pym in the comic if I remember correctly. and both are part of founding of the Avengers. We'll see Wasp in the next Ant-Man movie.
I just LOVE your videos!! This was a great one! I love this series in particular on your channel ( What's The Difference ) Keep up the great work!!
wolverine was sent back because he was the only one who could heal anyone else their mind would be ripped apart also they orginally meant to send back charles xavier but he would have died
They should have used kitty, they should have time traveled to the first movie and saved senator Kelly . That was the perfect setup right from the first x-men movie.
They sent Logan back cause he healing factor. They actually wanted to send Xavier back.
Do you think think you could make a "What's the difference" video of the film "Edge of tomorrow" and the manga "All you need is kill"
Comic books are too confusing man. Super man dies and then comes back to life and shit, so weird.
Welcome to comics in general.
He did that in Justice League's movie, too...
Nah, I'm pretty sure their comment came out before the movie I'm talking about did.
Well Superman is basically comic book Jesus. Everyone else I can’t defend.
It's not confusing at all dude. You're keeping track of events in chronological order. That's sort of the basic idea of reading/watching a story.
Thumbnail is perfect!
You should analyze the differnce between "The Warriors" cult classic picture by Walter Hill and the novel, written by Sol Yurick, that inspired the creation of the movie.
P.S.: the novel was already inspired by a Greek story.
The animated series main character is Bishop. He uses a time machine that Forge makes.
Why was Franklin Richards not doing anything? Am I missing something?!?!?!
He isn't in the movie.
But he's still Franklin Richards in the comics, where was he in the comics! His little bitch ass let Wolverine die!
+Banana Melon Ask Fox. They have the rights to the characters.
He was too busy being useless in the comics .
+Miskir Weldezion True. I mean the kid is immensely powerful and coukd be a cool story driver and character but the writers after Jonathan Hickman's run on Fantastic Four did not know what to do with him.
I remember they did this in the cartoon from the 90s as well...actually it was one of my favorite episodes...and yes, it was also wolverine.
this film does pretty drop all the sequel hook plotthreads from first class (such as the birth of magneto's brotherhood) as well as simoultaneously kill off several characters from the film offscreen merely to jusitfy Mystique's hatred of trask and her loss of trust between xavier and magneto (though you gotta ignore how she pretty much betrays a guy who's protected her from childhood for a murderous asshat she barely knew...)
basically the film's good, but it has some flaws. just putting it out there.
Great job, Cinefix!
After growing up in the 80's-90s with these comics, fox's version of the x-men have been so far off that they just aren't worth watching to me.
Same here. I started reading in 1980, at age 10. It was actually 13 yr old Kitty Pryde that made me get into the X-Men and stay with them. So yeah, I remember reading the comic version of this story and was thrilled when I heard they were going to make a movie adaptation. That excitement died a quick death when I realized that the movie was going to be soooooo different and Kitty won't play a real role in it.... and NO I don't think "oh we're switching Logan for Kitty, so for the fans we'll pop her to the role of the 'Person Who Can Send Other's Minds Into the Past' as a good compensation (mainly because it was so sudden and no excuse how she could do that)
I was kind of hoping you guys would bring up the days of future past story from the 90s cartoon as well where bishop was sent back in time to stop senator kelly from getting assassinated by mystique...but mystique was posing as gambit so bishop thought he had to kill gambit
Great movie, but the comic book is a million times better.
so is pratically every comic vs movie.
@@darkwolf1202lol no, not at all.
I'd recommend listening to the Graphic Audio presentation of "Xmen: Days of Future Past". It comes pretty close to the comics and has the action and flow that you'd expect from a movie.
The film came out in 2014
I had to back it up to make sure I heard that correctly.
+Robert Morris same
Could you do a differences between Interview with a Vampire (film) and Interview with the Vampire (book) video some time in the future?
Cant wait for days of future future.
If it wasn't for Reed Richards (Mister Fantastic) & Tony Stark (Iron Man) for development of the Mark 5 Sentinels this would've never happened. Just one of those newly Mark 5 Sentinels could kill perhaps the entire X men if not combated properly. Also, the non mutant heroes teamed up with the Sentinels and they defeated the mutants then double crossed the heroes, killed them, and afterwards put the mutants in concentration camps.
And after Apocalypse Fox will probably have to reboot it again or just suck it up and sell it to Marvel where it belongs
Marvel already has a sprawling cinematic universe, incorporating the X-Men would fuck continuity all to hell.
Also, Fox has no reason to either reboot or sell the rights lmao wtf
@@rorschachwatchescb this aged poorly
what I find ironic the year 2023 is very relavent in the Infinity Saga of the MCU ... now X-men is also part Marvel Studios
no mention of Nimrod...who is the ultimate sentinel ...able to travel through time, change his appearance, and basically do the T2 liquid thing metal before T2 came out,,,,also the creators of Superjail copied the look and shape of him for their robot!
+BigDapPacino He can also Control Metal and Teleport....
+BigDapPacino Nimrod isn't in Days of Future Past.
Quick question how can The sentinels have killed Ghostrider? I thought that since ghost rider is a spirit of vengeance he couldn’t die unless with holy weapons?
So, in the comments, Kitty pulled a Trunks. Neat.
hahaha yes she did
Both a brilliant in my opinion. The comic was nice sendoff to Claremont from his run and the film just felt epic to me
Claremont loved the movie.....
Am I the only one who likes The Last Stand just as much as the first X-Men?
+Luke sol maybe not the only one, but in the small minority, I for one think the first wolverine movie is not as bad as everyone makes it out to be and actually enjoy it, but yeah I thought last stand was just okay, but as good as the first one? LOL, nope.
Omar Reyes if you're gonna state you like a film every single comic fan should loath and then bash my comment with a "LOL, nope" just don't comment
Luke sol I never said it was a bad film, like origins I don't get the hate, and sorry I misinterpreted your words, at first I thought you meant is as good as the first one, even I know origins isn't that good, just like last stand is just okay, to me and most of the fans apparently the best ones are X1 and X2 the order differs but those are top 2, as for the rest, the order again differs put origins and last stand always are bottom 2
Omar Reyes i did say The Last Stand is as good as the first X-Men, but I fucking despise Origins so gtfo
Luke sol then yeah you are pretty much alone if you think last stand can even begin to come close to any bryan singer x men movie. there's a big difference between enjoying a movie and thinking a movie is actually good
I have a question, WHO is that Rogue-like mutant who discovers the X-suit in the beginning, and is also shown in the end. does he have any importance?
+Martin Reinheimer some people have said that X-man (Nate Grey) he mutant who came from Apocalypse's timeline.
Isn't Franklin Omega level?
13:25, i think you were looking for the word "causality"