Well, this video aged pretty well with V4. Let's keep hoping some changes are coming to V5 because otherwise, I don't think I'll vertically invest in Sunday (other than his light cone). Hoyoverse, if you want money, you know what to do.
SORRY FOR THE REUPLOADING SHINANIGANS. Love y'all!! 00:00 Intro 01:35 Reiterating the value of S1 04:33 E1, the best eidolon 06:16 E2 is underwhelming 07:58 E4 basically forces you to pull for S5 09:48 E6 is a QoL/comfort eidolon and now I am sad 10:43 Comparing Sunday's E6 w/ other Harmony E6s 13:00 E6 in action w/ DPSes 14:23 1140 Pulls to get to E6 15:29 "Powercreep bad when its not a waifu" (Complaining about Robin) 16:59 Some changes I would make to his E6 18:05 DELULU LAND 19:10 Closing thoughts
Well V4 rolled and we got nothing… I’m kinda disappointed if this was it tbh. Let’s just hope they push through with v5 changes even though they rarely have massive changes at that stage. I’m kinda worried about how they’re treating his eidolons as an indicator for his future relevance. I also agree with your take that he should have his own summons to at least consolidate his role as a summon support because at first it really did seem like he was just better Bronya and they called it a day.
ugh.. I'm also very sad because of V4. "better bronya" is so boring but I guess hoyo doesn't want money. I know quite a few people (including myself) who do not want to vertically invest in him anymore bc of his boring kit/bad eidolons.
@@sladeTek I SAW THAT AND LITERALLY SCREAMED. DO THEY NOT WANT MONEY? Now I don't even know if I am going for E1 anymore. Congratz hoyo. I really hope CN players get mad and do something about it because that's the only way they make any changes.
I'm happy to see someone else talking about it. Before his kit came out I was set on E2S1 expecting a similar level of power compared to the other Harmony eidolons. In V1 it was a similar case where to V3 every eidolon except E1 was outright terrible, but at least E1, despite somehow being worse than Robin's, was a great way to further buff older and weaker 1.x DPS to make them feel viable. Now in V3... As you've said, his e1 isn't bad, it's good, but I much preferred the universal use and appreciation of the RES pen as opposed to the def shred. I really wish they at least just buffed the old e1 to 2 turn duration instead of changing to def shred on 2 turns. But within the context of your suggested e2 buffs, I agree with that too! Why would they slap MORE damage buffs onto the e2? Either give a ludicrous atk buff (80%+ let's say, to further offset the loss of using SPD boots over atk on most carries), or turn it into Res Pen, or a multiplicative damage buff like Acheron's... have the SP effect be every ult, or do what everyone was hoping for and just scrap most of it and provide the energy overflow/Brain in a vat effect people were hoping he'd provide. I really cannot comprehend how they went from the horrible E2 in V1 to an equally horrible E2 in V3... And the rest of the eidolons are equally as sad. I can only hope that V4 brings reworks to every eidolon again, E1 less so but still. This was my most anticipated character for a LONG time, even when his face was just leaked in 1.5/6 and I skipped most 2.x characters for him, so I'm pretty disappointed that he feels nowhere near as unique as they could and should be making him feel at the very least with his eidolons.
I totally agree.. AAAAND I am very disappointed with w/ V4. I hope V5 brings about some actual changes to his kit/eidolons because otherwise, I don't think I'm going to vertically invest in him (other than his light cone)
Yeah I've also done the maths, to me it's complete bs. So what hoyo is telling us basically is "Oh u wanna whale for that character? Well fuck you you're not even rewarded for spending MORE THAN 1k ON HIS EIDOLONS BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCKED BEHING HIS S5" and it's NOT ONLY HIS E4 but his E6 too. I did the calculations for that and if you compare him to Sparkle's E6 basically they have similar crit damage buffs HOWEVER Sparkle makes it AOE where Sunday doesn't do SHIT. Example : let's say both have 200% crit damage. Sparkle E0S0 gives a total of 24% of her own crit damage + 45% = 93% crit damage buff. Now Sunday E0S0 gives a total of 30% of his own crit damage + 12% = 72%. That's basically around 20% less. Now Sparkle's E6 additionally buffs the original amount of crit damage she gives from her own by 30%, so idk how much her E5 buffs her skill EXACTLY but let's add around 2%, it would add up to 56% of her own crit damage + 45% = 157% crit damage. + SHE BUFFS THE WHOLE TEAM. Now Sunday's E6 allows him to stack his crit rate buff up to 3 times making a total of 66% crit rate and make each 1% of crit rate exceeding 100% giving 2% crit damage instead. Counting that most dpses have around 80% crit rate (being nice) this makes a total of 92% crit damage additionally to his initial 72% which adds up to ≈155% crit damage buff. This is MID. Extremely mid. Disappointing like this does not make sense to me.
@@qihakuImo they "could" keep it like that ONLY if they added something else to his E4. Robin's E2 buffs allies speed by 16% PLUS she regains 1 extra energy from her talent. Her E4 cleanse all her allies PLUS give them an additional 40% eff res. She almost feels like they gave her 2 eidolons per eidolons and I'm not even talking about her broken E1 and E6 lmao (btw I added some more information as to why his eidolons make me angry mostly his E6 if you want some extra info on it that I calculated myself)
@ Yeah, I'm deeply disappointed ngl lmao, I used like 60 pulls that I was saving for Sunday lmaoo. "Technically" these nerfs don't affect Summons/Servants so he will still be BIS at what he's supposed to do. However I'm not really a Jing Yuan main.. I wanted to mainly play him in my Acheron team so yeah I'm screwed
Well, this video aged pretty well with V4. Let's keep hoping some changes are coming to V5 because otherwise, I don't think I'll vertically invest in Sunday (other than his light cone). Hoyoverse, if you want money, you know what to do.
SORRY FOR THE REUPLOADING SHINANIGANS. Love y'all!!
00:00 Intro
01:35 Reiterating the value of S1
04:33 E1, the best eidolon
06:16 E2 is underwhelming
07:58 E4 basically forces you to pull for S5
09:48 E6 is a QoL/comfort eidolon and now I am sad
10:43 Comparing Sunday's E6 w/ other Harmony E6s
13:00 E6 in action w/ DPSes
14:23 1140 Pulls to get to E6
15:29 "Powercreep bad when its not a waifu" (Complaining about Robin)
16:59 Some changes I would make to his E6
18:05 DELULU LAND
19:10 Closing thoughts
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awww! thank you. much appreciated.
Well V4 rolled and we got nothing… I’m kinda disappointed if this was it tbh. Let’s just hope they push through with v5 changes even though they rarely have massive changes at that stage. I’m kinda worried about how they’re treating his eidolons as an indicator for his future relevance. I also agree with your take that he should have his own summons to at least consolidate his role as a summon support because at first it really did seem like he was just better Bronya and they called it a day.
ugh.. I'm also very sad because of V4. "better bronya" is so boring but I guess hoyo doesn't want money. I know quite a few people (including myself) who do not want to vertically invest in him anymore bc of his boring kit/bad eidolons.
His e1 actually got nerfed WOWWWWW
@@sladeTek I SAW THAT AND LITERALLY SCREAMED. DO THEY NOT WANT MONEY? Now I don't even know if I am going for E1 anymore. Congratz hoyo. I really hope CN players get mad and do something about it because that's the only way they make any changes.
I'm happy to see someone else talking about it. Before his kit came out I was set on E2S1 expecting a similar level of power compared to the other Harmony eidolons.
In V1 it was a similar case where to V3 every eidolon except E1 was outright terrible, but at least E1, despite somehow being worse than Robin's, was a great way to further buff older and weaker 1.x DPS to make them feel viable. Now in V3... As you've said, his e1 isn't bad, it's good, but I much preferred the universal use and appreciation of the RES pen as opposed to the def shred. I really wish they at least just buffed the old e1 to 2 turn duration instead of changing to def shred on 2 turns.
But within the context of your suggested e2 buffs, I agree with that too! Why would they slap MORE damage buffs onto the e2? Either give a ludicrous atk buff (80%+ let's say, to further offset the loss of using SPD boots over atk on most carries), or turn it into Res Pen, or a multiplicative damage buff like Acheron's... have the SP effect be every ult, or do what everyone was hoping for and just scrap most of it and provide the energy overflow/Brain in a vat effect people were hoping he'd provide. I really cannot comprehend how they went from the horrible E2 in V1 to an equally horrible E2 in V3... And the rest of the eidolons are equally as sad. I can only hope that V4 brings reworks to every eidolon again, E1 less so but still.
This was my most anticipated character for a LONG time, even when his face was just leaked in 1.5/6 and I skipped most 2.x characters for him, so I'm pretty disappointed that he feels nowhere near as unique as they could and should be making him feel at the very least with his eidolons.
Maybe bc they wanna Promote Triple Lushaka which is almost equal to using Atk% Boots/Rope/Orb
@@jamesfrancisgalang7350 Does Lukasha stack? I wasn't thinking of this until you mentioned it so thank you!
I totally agree.. AAAAND I am very disappointed with w/ V4. I hope V5 brings about some actual changes to his kit/eidolons because otherwise, I don't think I'm going to vertically invest in him (other than his light cone)
@@qihaku Yeah it does stack
I'm getting him E0S1 nothing else what a waste i love sunday i simp for him but that's all i will invest
Yeah I've also done the maths, to me it's complete bs. So what hoyo is telling us basically is "Oh u wanna whale for that character? Well fuck you you're not even rewarded for spending MORE THAN 1k ON HIS EIDOLONS BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCKED BEHING HIS S5" and it's NOT ONLY HIS E4 but his E6 too. I did the calculations for that and if you compare him to Sparkle's E6 basically they have similar crit damage buffs HOWEVER Sparkle makes it AOE where Sunday doesn't do SHIT. Example : let's say both have 200% crit damage. Sparkle E0S0 gives a total of 24% of her own crit damage + 45% = 93% crit damage buff. Now Sunday E0S0 gives a total of 30% of his own crit damage + 12% = 72%. That's basically around 20% less.
Now Sparkle's E6 additionally buffs the original amount of crit damage she gives from her own by 30%, so idk how much her E5 buffs her skill EXACTLY but let's add around 2%, it would add up to 56% of her own crit damage + 45% = 157% crit damage. + SHE BUFFS THE WHOLE TEAM.
Now Sunday's E6 allows him to stack his crit rate buff up to 3 times making a total of 66% crit rate and make each 1% of crit rate exceeding 100% giving 2% crit damage instead. Counting that most dpses have around 80% crit rate (being nice) this makes a total of 92% crit damage additionally to his initial 72% which adds up to ≈155% crit damage buff.
This is MID. Extremely mid. Disappointing like this does not make sense to me.
genuinely infuriating. I hope they change it so that his e4 works w/ s1.
@@qihakuImo they "could" keep it like that ONLY if they added something else to his E4. Robin's E2 buffs allies speed by 16% PLUS she regains 1 extra energy from her talent. Her E4 cleanse all her allies PLUS give them an additional 40% eff res. She almost feels like they gave her 2 eidolons per eidolons and I'm not even talking about her broken E1 and E6 lmao (btw I added some more information as to why his eidolons make me angry mostly his E6 if you want some extra info on it that I calculated myself)
@@ArchangelSunday LOL HAVE YOU SEEN V5? I AM SCREAMING.
@ Yeah, I'm deeply disappointed ngl lmao, I used like 60 pulls that I was saving for Sunday lmaoo. "Technically" these nerfs don't affect Summons/Servants so he will still be BIS at what he's supposed to do. However I'm not really a Jing Yuan main.. I wanted to mainly play him in my Acheron team so yeah I'm screwed
@ He can now be considered the Harmony with the worst Eidolons in the game. Even Tingyun's Eidolons are better atp and I'm not even kidding
I rather have his old e2 back who cooked this
there must be a man hater @ hoyo headquarters /j
You're so right I hope they buff him 🥲 i rly want his E2S1