Locos Of The Line - Diesel Shunters

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2020
  • Ninth of a series of films that looks at the locomotives of the Watercress Line. This week's episode looks at the team of Diesel shunters that help keep the railway running.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 77

  • @ritchiesiepman5511
    @ritchiesiepman5511 2 роки тому +16

    We in the Netherlands still have some BR 08 shunters called the NS class 500/600. Most of them are in preservation, but a small amount is still in service for shunting or track maintenance

    • @nicokremers7150
      @nicokremers7150 7 місяців тому

      I understand these Dutch shunters are actually class 11’s. They look the same to me. 😉 edit: it’s also in the video. 🙂

  • @ProfessorPesca
    @ProfessorPesca 2 роки тому +13

    Wonderful drone shots there, and a fascinating short intro to these engines.

  • @nick-c
    @nick-c 3 роки тому +10

    Good to see the unsung heroes getting a mention - 377 was particularly useful last year at Alresford for the Sunday morning shunts

  • @Retirement_Life
    @Retirement_Life 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Diesels are my preferred engines…the unsung workhorse heroes

  • @ToaTakanuva7
    @ToaTakanuva7 2 роки тому +17

    DIESEL: We Diesels don't need to learn we know everything we come to a yard and improve it we a revolutionary
    DUCK: oh if you are revothingagomy you can collect my trucks while I fetch Gordon's coaches
    NERATOR: Diesel delighted to show off purred away

  • @Fredstrains
    @Fredstrains 3 роки тому +13

    Well enjoyed I’d love to see the coaches / wagons in the sidings ready for restoration

  • @jamesedwards7241
    @jamesedwards7241 2 роки тому +1

    Spent many happy hours driving Gronks, a really useful tool that few took much notice of.

  • @michaelcollett1175
    @michaelcollett1175 2 роки тому +2

    enjoy the video , history, i visiting THE GREAT CENTRAL RAILWAY, SAW ONE IN ACTION, AS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE DIESEL TRAIN

  • @mikeandtriciajohnson7241
    @mikeandtriciajohnson7241 2 роки тому +3

    08377 was delivered 2 days after I was in 1957 !!
    I'll have to give it a better look next time we visit and take a few photos.
    I have a 3 class 8s on my model railway layout, I feel a repaint of one coming on.

  • @henryb2751
    @henryb2751 3 роки тому +32

    Can you do a video on how double headers are co ordinated while they are moving

    • @steveh4335
      @steveh4335 3 роки тому +2

      Steam or diesel ? (Electrics have similar multiple-working control systems to diesels)

    • @Ben31337l
      @Ben31337l 2 роки тому +1

      @@steveh4335 And whether they're controlled in multiple.

  • @ianjones4116
    @ianjones4116 3 роки тому +5

    Fun fact. The 08s are the same Tractive Effort as a class66 Deltic,,, 55,000 lbs.
    Lot of pulling power from little engine. Foster Yeoman run some long heavy stone trains. Testament to the Grunt of the Gronk, lol.
    Great video. Great content.
    I learned a few things. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. 👍
    Good luck in 2021.

    • @danieljones1861
      @danieljones1861 2 роки тому

      I think you mean the class 55 Deltic. They have a maximum tractive effort of 50,000 lbf and a starting tractive effort of 30,500 lbf. The 08s have a tractive effort of 35,000 lbf, and the 11s have a tractive effort of 34,900 lbf. So while neither the 08s nor 11s could match the 55s for their maximum tractive effort, (mostly because they could only go 15 to 20 miles an hour, while the 55s could go 100+ miles an hour), they both had a greater tractive effort at starting speeds. Which meant that they could shunt more over shorter distances.
      You are right, that is a lot of pulling power for engines of their smaller size. I learned a few new things as well. I hope this helps to shed some more light on the specifications of the little engines that are often overlooked. I hope you have a wonderful day. :)

  • @MikesMovies
    @MikesMovies 2 місяці тому

    Great production on one of my favorite types, I loved my time on 08s and 09s happiest days of my life working them

  • @TheSorub
    @TheSorub 3 роки тому +3

    Another great video everyone recoomend this to friends the hard work and excillence of all these videos deserves a greater viewing

  • @RB-hx7rd
    @RB-hx7rd 3 роки тому +2

    Great stuff.

  • @JakeyG-eq1un
    @JakeyG-eq1un 3 роки тому +3

    THANK YOU

  • @DCS1967
    @DCS1967 3 роки тому +9

    Another good video although I think you’ll find that Totton isn’t on the London Midland Region, but Toton is, it’s actually pronounced Toe-ton. It’s good to see a video about the shunters though.

  • @UKRailsandMore
    @UKRailsandMore 3 роки тому +2

    Great video my friend with great presentation. Fantastic these places can spend all day watching and look forward to getting back to them when things improve. Great that we can watch videos like this in the meantime. Very interesting to watch and the drone footage is brilliant. All the best and thanks for sharing, Paul

  • @Bittern19
    @Bittern19 3 роки тому +4

    3:57 i Lif in Nederlands

  • @zacharyspinks6207
    @zacharyspinks6207 Рік тому

    I Certainly do enjoy this Video, It's Amazing.👍

  • @petersmith4455
    @petersmith4455 3 роки тому +3

    hi for me, these 08s are the stars of the railway.make sure you look after the power units, ie, regular oil changes etc,

    • @tiggy2756
      @tiggy2756 Рік тому

      Oil changea !! we had them for years and never did oil changes , just sampled lube oil tested for coolant or fuel dilution , they are tough old things ,just make sure axle boxes and side rods are oiled and don't over speed them , motors don't like it

  • @zenersmytok3619
    @zenersmytok3619 3 місяці тому

    I wish that you would give me the 08 shunters. I love them !. Thanks for the video too.

  • @Ashishkumar-hd1im
    @Ashishkumar-hd1im 9 днів тому

    I have seen this on thomas and friends as diesel ⛽

  • @Garlic227
    @Garlic227 3 роки тому +18

    Uh Diesel where’s your face?

  • @tiggy2756
    @tiggy2756 Рік тому

    Funny things to drive , if you're too fast past notch on you don't get any power but she reves up , then you go promptly back to notch on the she nearly does a wheely ! (one of our's went through a loco shed wall due to this ) . Got shown this little trick by the instructor driver when learning 08's

  • @paulshirley6383
    @paulshirley6383 Рік тому +1

    Locos Of The Line - Diesel ShuntersMid Hants Railway love louis shirley

  • @michaelmoran2022
    @michaelmoran2022 Рік тому

    Use to live right next to allerton depot in the 1970s where 08s were based.we also had the odd 09 too

  • @tombrooker523
    @tombrooker523 3 роки тому +3

    Locos Of The Line - 53808

  • @Thomas_TdK
    @Thomas_TdK 2 роки тому

    NS (dutch railways) bought about a hunderd of the class 08. most are in museums now too

  • @stevemawer848
    @stevemawer848 Рік тому

    Hmm, nice Jag XK8 in the car park at 3:05. 🙂

  • @raystringer8082
    @raystringer8082 2 роки тому

    Enjoy these videos very much. How about doing one featuring lineside signage, such as limited clearance, speed restrictions, catch point warnings, etc. I'm sure it would be of interest.

  • @gquayle
    @gquayle 3 роки тому +5

    What was used pre diesel's?
    (When steam was unavailable)
    Pinch bar or horse.

    • @twonkfieldrailways4110
      @twonkfieldrailways4110 3 роки тому +3

      steam locos were used it was just impractical. but horses were used in smaller yards where having a loco was too expensive to justify.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 3 роки тому +1

      Horses were still in use in BR into the ate 1950s/early 1960s. One if the last was at Newmarket for moving horse vans. I'm not aware of pinch bars being used in the UK. Some locations used powered capstan to move wagons.

  • @steveh4335
    @steveh4335 3 роки тому +1

    Nice tribute to the humble stalwarts of the line, has 08032 worked on the line ?
    I was always curious what FY did with it, and the other VB 08s there, for 23 years since the arrival of the 59s, air-brake only as was all the freight stock maintained at and used from Merehead, I assume it was for shunting faulty single wagons, brakes isolated, into the maintenance shed ? Would the train loco have split them out of the rake, or was that Western Yeoman II, the GM shunter's job ? That's a lil beastie of a loco but sadly I doubt it'd fit through the MHR platforms !

  • @matthewc.419
    @matthewc.419 Рік тому

    " Gronks" iv driven an 08 , starting handle for the oil pump at the front with the bands is interesting 😱
    They are cool though

    • @tiggy2756
      @tiggy2756 Рік тому

      You mean the lube oil priming pump , just pump like hell till there's pressure on the gauge then stand clear while it started , don't forget to pump the fuel up to header tank as well

  • @aidanstrand4864
    @aidanstrand4864 2 роки тому

    Where is the shunting footage at Bournemouth from?

  • @pete6645
    @pete6645 3 роки тому +10

    Enjoyed watching this - very interesting. Just one query: it doesn't explain why locomotive 12082 is now displaying the number 12049. Any reason?

    • @reecehaire9124
      @reecehaire9124 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah I'm wondering that too, i hope they reply or make a video about it

    • @WillStratford
      @WillStratford 3 роки тому +10

      Hi Pete, apologies for missing it out. The original 12049 was purchased by DAY Aggregates at Brentford, South West London, and used to shunt their internal sidings. Sadly 12049 was damaged beyond repair by a fire at Ropley in 2010, and has subsequently been replaced by sister 12082 from Barrow Hill and numbered as 12049.

    • @D8059PRODUCTIONS
      @D8059PRODUCTIONS 3 роки тому +1

      As Will said, yes, the original 12049 it was burned down In the ropley 2010 fire of the carriage works so was replaced by 12082, however 12082 is now not displaying 12049 but is displaying 12082!

  • @bobuk5722
    @bobuk5722 Рік тому

    I've wondered how shunters developed enough tractive effort to move heavy trains. Smaller wheels help of course. Steel on steel friction co-efficient is about 0.2 so 49 ton weight suggests a max drawbar pull of, well, around 5 tons or 11,000 lbs. Am I anything like in the right ball park? Obviously it is enough, but for how heavy a load? What about wet rails? I guess one could always split the load and do two or more movements.

  • @reecehaire9124
    @reecehaire9124 3 роки тому +5

    If she is a class 11 why is she named 12082?

    • @nick-c
      @nick-c 3 роки тому +2

      The class 11 designation came later; the original numbers fitted into the same system as steam locos - 1xxxx being diesels just as 3xxxx was SR locos etc

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 3 роки тому

      I don't know how much you already know, so apologies for repeating anything you already know. Originally, in 1948, the Class 11 were known as the Class DEJ3, which in 1955 they became the Class D3/8, only to be reclassified as the Class 3/8A in 1962. With the introduction of TOPS they became the Class 11. The numbering system started of with diesels in the 1XXXXX series and electrics in the 2XXXX series sandwiched between the ex-GWR locomotives that retained their pre-nationalisation numbers and the ex-SR locomotives which had 30000 added to their numbers. This numbering system didn't last long as it was soon replaced with the system that started at D1 (later 44001) with diesel locomotives dropping the leading 1 and replacing it with a D. The numbers were issued in sequence to each batch of locomotives, which meant that when the locomotives ordered for a given class ran into the numbers allocated to other locomotives already built or on order, the overlapping locomotives had to be found gaps in the umbeting system. Thus happened to the Class 20 (ordered to replace the Class 17) and the last few Class 47s and what would become under TOPS the Class 25/3. The use of the XX/X in locomotive design actions came from the LNER and denotes a sub-class of locomotives which have some differences from the rest of the class such as no boiler fittings lime a water tank.

  • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
    @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 3 роки тому

    Did they ever do a diesel mechanical version with a fluid coupling? Rather than diesel electric?

    • @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
      @Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 3 роки тому

      Reason why i ask is i remember seeing a diesel mechanical shunter around the same size in australia?

  • @spankflaps1365
    @spankflaps1365 Рік тому +1

    Honk if you Gronk 🎺

  • @lukeslocomotives
    @lukeslocomotives 3 роки тому +3

    5:46 what loco is that?

  • @lukeslocomotives
    @lukeslocomotives 3 роки тому +3

    12049 was destroyed in a fire, was anything else beyond repair?

    • @panelledsquid9890
      @panelledsquid9890 3 роки тому +2

      Read up on the incident. 2010, the original 12049 was lost in the fire along with an LSWR Restraunt Carriage and a MK1 BR carriage. The only thing that was repairable was the tender for engine 31806.

  • @nikesb9420
    @nikesb9420 2 роки тому

    Hello I may request for you to do a double header with a class 08 shunted and a black 5

  • @quintoflyer
    @quintoflyer 2 роки тому

    they were singled man only in sidings a second man (fireman) was required if the loco went on the main line I has that job a few times
    2
    9
    9

  • @Charles_The_Greyhound
    @Charles_The_Greyhound Рік тому

    A u r t h e r

  • @theswimmingplants
    @theswimmingplants 5 місяців тому

    Sir‚ what's the name of thumbnail locomotive 🚂

  • @theraildynasty_
    @theraildynasty_ 5 місяців тому

    Is Class 11 Diesel-electric or Diesel-hydraulic?

  • @lewisbentley-smith302
    @lewisbentley-smith302 Рік тому

    i am a fan of these shunters , makes me think of diesel from thomas the tank when i was a little boi

  • @meneses9151
    @meneses9151 2 роки тому +2

    Fun fact: the locomotive called Diésel from Thomas & friends, is a br 08 class locomotive!

    • @joshuariddensdale2126
      @joshuariddensdale2126 Рік тому

      The BR Class 08 is apparently very popular on Sodor. Besides Diesel, the other characters who are of the same class are Paxton, Sidney, 'Arry, Bert, and even Dodge and Splatter (their models were damaged after filming, which is why they never appeared again after The Magic Railroad).

  • @God_Of_Nissan
    @God_Of_Nissan 2 роки тому +1

    yeah Diesel is cool but damn just make a video about the tank engine Thomas was based off of cause I wanna see the real life tank engine I grew up with

    • @spartangoku7610
      @spartangoku7610 2 роки тому

      I got bad news for you.
      All LB&SCR E2 tank engines were scrapped.
      However, there is an initiative to build a new one using original plans.

    • @God_Of_Nissan
      @God_Of_Nissan 2 роки тому

      @@spartangoku7610 I love the idea of building new ones but I know that they will scrap them before I even turn 18 so I could be the fireman in one of them, that would be a dream come true btw do you wanna get a shoutout on my channel, ChubbyBoi360

  • @naz2468
    @naz2468 2 роки тому

    too noisy and too uncomfortable!