We in the Netherlands still have some BR 08 shunters called the NS class 500/600. Most of them are in preservation, but a small amount is still in service for shunting or track maintenance
08377 was delivered 2 days after I was in 1957 !! I'll have to give it a better look next time we visit and take a few photos. I have a 3 class 8s on my model railway layout, I feel a repaint of one coming on.
DIESEL: We Diesels don't need to learn we know everything we come to a yard and improve it we a revolutionary DUCK: oh if you are revothingagomy you can collect my trucks while I fetch Gordon's coaches NERATOR: Diesel delighted to show off purred away
Fun fact. The 08s are the same Tractive Effort as a class66 Deltic,,, 55,000 lbs. Lot of pulling power from little engine. Foster Yeoman run some long heavy stone trains. Testament to the Grunt of the Gronk, lol. Great video. Great content. I learned a few things. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. 👍 Good luck in 2021.
I think you mean the class 55 Deltic. They have a maximum tractive effort of 50,000 lbf and a starting tractive effort of 30,500 lbf. The 08s have a tractive effort of 35,000 lbf, and the 11s have a tractive effort of 34,900 lbf. So while neither the 08s nor 11s could match the 55s for their maximum tractive effort, (mostly because they could only go 15 to 20 miles an hour, while the 55s could go 100+ miles an hour), they both had a greater tractive effort at starting speeds. Which meant that they could shunt more over shorter distances. You are right, that is a lot of pulling power for engines of their smaller size. I learned a few new things as well. I hope this helps to shed some more light on the specifications of the little engines that are often overlooked. I hope you have a wonderful day. :)
I'm just getting into model trains and the class 08 shunter seems to be coming up a lot by some coincidence, But I do enjoy Real trains as well, so this little documentary is Excellent, I enjoyed every minute, I shall look for more, thanks very much. have a wonderful day.
Great video my friend with great presentation. Fantastic these places can spend all day watching and look forward to getting back to them when things improve. Great that we can watch videos like this in the meantime. Very interesting to watch and the drone footage is brilliant. All the best and thanks for sharing, Paul
Another good video although I think you’ll find that Totton isn’t on the London Midland Region, but Toton is, it’s actually pronounced Toe-ton. It’s good to see a video about the shunters though.
Oil changea !! we had them for years and never did oil changes , just sampled lube oil tested for coolant or fuel dilution , they are tough old things ,just make sure axle boxes and side rods are oiled and don't over speed them , motors don't like it
Funny things to drive , if you're too fast past notch on you don't get any power but she reves up , then you go promptly back to notch on the she nearly does a wheely ! (one of our's went through a loco shed wall due to this ) . Got shown this little trick by the instructor driver when learning 08's
THERES A BLACK BRITISH RAIL SHUNTER 13 079 OUTSIDE YORK RAILWAY MUSEUM AND ANOTHER AT NEVILLE HILL LEEDS BELONGING TO E.W.S (ENGLAND WALES AND SCOTLAND)
Enjoy these videos very much. How about doing one featuring lineside signage, such as limited clearance, speed restrictions, catch point warnings, etc. I'm sure it would be of interest.
You mean the lube oil priming pump , just pump like hell till there's pressure on the gauge then stand clear while it started , don't forget to pump the fuel up to header tank as well
I've wondered how shunters developed enough tractive effort to move heavy trains. Smaller wheels help of course. Steel on steel friction co-efficient is about 0.2 so 49 ton weight suggests a max drawbar pull of, well, around 5 tons or 11,000 lbs. Am I anything like in the right ball park? Obviously it is enough, but for how heavy a load? What about wet rails? I guess one could always split the load and do two or more movements.
Nice tribute to the humble stalwarts of the line, has 08032 worked on the line ? I was always curious what FY did with it, and the other VB 08s there, for 23 years since the arrival of the 59s, air-brake only as was all the freight stock maintained at and used from Merehead, I assume it was for shunting faulty single wagons, brakes isolated, into the maintenance shed ? Would the train loco have split them out of the rake, or was that Western Yeoman II, the GM shunter's job ? That's a lil beastie of a loco but sadly I doubt it'd fit through the MHR platforms !
Horses were still in use in BR into the ate 1950s/early 1960s. One if the last was at Newmarket for moving horse vans. I'm not aware of pinch bars being used in the UK. Some locations used powered capstan to move wagons.
Hi Pete, apologies for missing it out. The original 12049 was purchased by DAY Aggregates at Brentford, South West London, and used to shunt their internal sidings. Sadly 12049 was damaged beyond repair by a fire at Ropley in 2010, and has subsequently been replaced by sister 12082 from Barrow Hill and numbered as 12049.
As Will said, yes, the original 12049 it was burned down In the ropley 2010 fire of the carriage works so was replaced by 12082, however 12082 is now not displaying 12049 but is displaying 12082!
Read up on the incident. 2010, the original 12049 was lost in the fire along with an LSWR Restraunt Carriage and a MK1 BR carriage. The only thing that was repairable was the tender for engine 31806.
The BR Class 08 is apparently very popular on Sodor. Besides Diesel, the other characters who are of the same class are Paxton, Sidney, 'Arry, Bert, and even Dodge and Splatter (their models were damaged after filming, which is why they never appeared again after The Magic Railroad).
yeah Diesel is cool but damn just make a video about the tank engine Thomas was based off of cause I wanna see the real life tank engine I grew up with
@@spartangoku7610 I love the idea of building new ones but I know that they will scrap them before I even turn 18 so I could be the fireman in one of them, that would be a dream come true btw do you wanna get a shoutout on my channel, ChubbyBoi360
We in the Netherlands still have some BR 08 shunters called the NS class 500/600. Most of them are in preservation, but a small amount is still in service for shunting or track maintenance
I understand these Dutch shunters are actually class 11’s. They look the same to me. 😉 edit: it’s also in the video. 🙂
Great video. Diesels are my preferred engines…the unsung workhorse heroes
Wonderful drone shots there, and a fascinating short intro to these engines.
Good to see the unsung heroes getting a mention - 377 was particularly useful last year at Alresford for the Sunday morning shunts
Well enjoyed I’d love to see the coaches / wagons in the sidings ready for restoration
08377 was delivered 2 days after I was in 1957 !!
I'll have to give it a better look next time we visit and take a few photos.
I have a 3 class 8s on my model railway layout, I feel a repaint of one coming on.
Spent many happy hours driving Gronks, a really useful tool that few took much notice of.
Brilliant videography!
DIESEL: We Diesels don't need to learn we know everything we come to a yard and improve it we a revolutionary
DUCK: oh if you are revothingagomy you can collect my trucks while I fetch Gordon's coaches
NERATOR: Diesel delighted to show off purred away
enjoy the video , history, i visiting THE GREAT CENTRAL RAILWAY, SAW ONE IN ACTION, AS ONE OF MY FAVOURITE DIESEL TRAIN
Fun fact. The 08s are the same Tractive Effort as a class66 Deltic,,, 55,000 lbs.
Lot of pulling power from little engine. Foster Yeoman run some long heavy stone trains. Testament to the Grunt of the Gronk, lol.
Great video. Great content.
I learned a few things. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. 👍
Good luck in 2021.
I think you mean the class 55 Deltic. They have a maximum tractive effort of 50,000 lbf and a starting tractive effort of 30,500 lbf. The 08s have a tractive effort of 35,000 lbf, and the 11s have a tractive effort of 34,900 lbf. So while neither the 08s nor 11s could match the 55s for their maximum tractive effort, (mostly because they could only go 15 to 20 miles an hour, while the 55s could go 100+ miles an hour), they both had a greater tractive effort at starting speeds. Which meant that they could shunt more over shorter distances.
You are right, that is a lot of pulling power for engines of their smaller size. I learned a few new things as well. I hope this helps to shed some more light on the specifications of the little engines that are often overlooked. I hope you have a wonderful day. :)
Unsung heroes
I'm just getting into model trains and the class 08 shunter seems to be coming up a lot by some coincidence, But I do enjoy Real trains as well, so this little documentary is Excellent, I enjoyed every minute, I shall look for more, thanks very much. have a wonderful day.
Can you do a video on how double headers are co ordinated while they are moving
Steam or diesel ? (Electrics have similar multiple-working control systems to diesels)
@@steveh4335 And whether they're controlled in multiple.
Very interesting.
Great production on one of my favorite types, I loved my time on 08s and 09s happiest days of my life working them
THANK YOU
Another great video everyone recoomend this to friends the hard work and excillence of all these videos deserves a greater viewing
Great video my friend with great presentation. Fantastic these places can spend all day watching and look forward to getting back to them when things improve. Great that we can watch videos like this in the meantime. Very interesting to watch and the drone footage is brilliant. All the best and thanks for sharing, Paul
3:57 i Lif in Nederlands
Another good video although I think you’ll find that Totton isn’t on the London Midland Region, but Toton is, it’s actually pronounced Toe-ton. It’s good to see a video about the shunters though.
hi for me, these 08s are the stars of the railway.make sure you look after the power units, ie, regular oil changes etc,
Oil changea !! we had them for years and never did oil changes , just sampled lube oil tested for coolant or fuel dilution , they are tough old things ,just make sure axle boxes and side rods are oiled and don't over speed them , motors don't like it
Great stuff.
I Certainly do enjoy this Video, It's Amazing.👍
Funny things to drive , if you're too fast past notch on you don't get any power but she reves up , then you go promptly back to notch on the she nearly does a wheely ! (one of our's went through a loco shed wall due to this ) . Got shown this little trick by the instructor driver when learning 08's
Use to live right next to allerton depot in the 1970s where 08s were based.we also had the odd 09 too
I wish that you would give me the 08 shunters. I love them !. Thanks for the video too.
NS (dutch railways) bought about a hunderd of the class 08. most are in museums now too
THERES A BLACK BRITISH RAIL SHUNTER 13 079 OUTSIDE YORK RAILWAY MUSEUM AND ANOTHER AT NEVILLE HILL LEEDS BELONGING TO E.W.S (ENGLAND WALES AND SCOTLAND)
Hmm, nice Jag XK8 in the car park at 3:05. 🙂
Enjoy these videos very much. How about doing one featuring lineside signage, such as limited clearance, speed restrictions, catch point warnings, etc. I'm sure it would be of interest.
Locos Of The Line - 53808
" Gronks" iv driven an 08 , starting handle for the oil pump at the front with the bands is interesting 😱
They are cool though
You mean the lube oil priming pump , just pump like hell till there's pressure on the gauge then stand clear while it started , don't forget to pump the fuel up to header tank as well
I've wondered how shunters developed enough tractive effort to move heavy trains. Smaller wheels help of course. Steel on steel friction co-efficient is about 0.2 so 49 ton weight suggests a max drawbar pull of, well, around 5 tons or 11,000 lbs. Am I anything like in the right ball park? Obviously it is enough, but for how heavy a load? What about wet rails? I guess one could always split the load and do two or more movements.
I have seen this on thomas and friends as diesel ⛽
Nice tribute to the humble stalwarts of the line, has 08032 worked on the line ?
I was always curious what FY did with it, and the other VB 08s there, for 23 years since the arrival of the 59s, air-brake only as was all the freight stock maintained at and used from Merehead, I assume it was for shunting faulty single wagons, brakes isolated, into the maintenance shed ? Would the train loco have split them out of the rake, or was that Western Yeoman II, the GM shunter's job ? That's a lil beastie of a loco but sadly I doubt it'd fit through the MHR platforms !
What was used pre diesel's?
(When steam was unavailable)
Pinch bar or horse.
steam locos were used it was just impractical. but horses were used in smaller yards where having a loco was too expensive to justify.
Horses were still in use in BR into the ate 1950s/early 1960s. One if the last was at Newmarket for moving horse vans. I'm not aware of pinch bars being used in the UK. Some locations used powered capstan to move wagons.
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Enjoyed watching this - very interesting. Just one query: it doesn't explain why locomotive 12082 is now displaying the number 12049. Any reason?
Hi Pete, apologies for missing it out. The original 12049 was purchased by DAY Aggregates at Brentford, South West London, and used to shunt their internal sidings. Sadly 12049 was damaged beyond repair by a fire at Ropley in 2010, and has subsequently been replaced by sister 12082 from Barrow Hill and numbered as 12049.
As Will said, yes, the original 12049 it was burned down In the ropley 2010 fire of the carriage works so was replaced by 12082, however 12082 is now not displaying 12049 but is displaying 12082!
5:46 what loco is that?
Diesel
HST - class 43
12049 was destroyed in a fire, was anything else beyond repair?
Read up on the incident. 2010, the original 12049 was lost in the fire along with an LSWR Restraunt Carriage and a MK1 BR carriage. The only thing that was repairable was the tender for engine 31806.
Where is the shunting footage at Bournemouth from?
Hello I may request for you to do a double header with a class 08 shunted and a black 5
Did they ever do a diesel mechanical version with a fluid coupling? Rather than diesel electric?
Reason why i ask is i remember seeing a diesel mechanical shunter around the same size in australia?
Sir‚ what's the name of thumbnail locomotive 🚂
Hi there, that loco is 08377
they were singled man only in sidings a second man (fireman) was required if the loco went on the main line I has that job a few times
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Is Class 11 Diesel-electric or Diesel-hydraulic?
Hi there, Class 11s are Diesel-Electric
Fun fact: the locomotive called Diésel from Thomas & friends, is a br 08 class locomotive!
The BR Class 08 is apparently very popular on Sodor. Besides Diesel, the other characters who are of the same class are Paxton, Sidney, 'Arry, Bert, and even Dodge and Splatter (their models were damaged after filming, which is why they never appeared again after The Magic Railroad).
Uh Diesel where’s your face?
What?
there's always one saddo !
He lost face after being sent away.
Get it?
@@billsmith305 you didn't have a childhood
Even Paxton seems to have no face :")
i am a fan of these shunters , makes me think of diesel from thomas the tank when i was a little boi
yeah Diesel is cool but damn just make a video about the tank engine Thomas was based off of cause I wanna see the real life tank engine I grew up with
I got bad news for you.
All LB&SCR E2 tank engines were scrapped.
However, there is an initiative to build a new one using original plans.
@@spartangoku7610 I love the idea of building new ones but I know that they will scrap them before I even turn 18 so I could be the fireman in one of them, that would be a dream come true btw do you wanna get a shoutout on my channel, ChubbyBoi360
too noisy and too uncomfortable!