@MrLocomaximo Do you even have to ask why? Cerberus is a good boy. Sure, he is a fearsome dog who is supposed to kill those who attempt to enter or attempt to leave, but that's his *job.* He is the biggest, meanest, deadly three-headed doggo in the Underworld, and we love him for that. If we ended up killing him; even though he is a denizen of the Underworld, and would likely just resurrect back in the House of Hades like Hades and Zagreus; we would still kill a dog. And there are very few things that can make people madder than being forced to kill a dog, even in a video game.
sorry but like the third or fourth time or so when Zagreus reaches the surface and then immediately goes to catch a fish before talking to his mom just fucking sent me like can you imagine how that would be in canon. "Zagreus, dear, what are y--" "Just a moment, mother, Zaggy needs fishies for monies"
I went fishing literally in Persephone’s garden once and she commented on it. It made me laugh so hard purely because I wasn’t expecting her to basically just go “nice catch”
@@Caesar_Sandwich no one- Me- RA RA RUSPUTIN LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN THERE WAS A CAT THAT REALLY WAS GONE RA RA RASPUTIN RUSSIA’S GREATEST LOVE MACHINE IT WAS A SHAME HOW HE CARRIED OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
While all the voice work is top tier, Zagreus’ actor takes the cake. He does a truly spectacular job of going from lackadaisical to intense at the right moments.
Darren Korb is also the fastest speedrunner among the game’s crew. He had a sub-12-minute clear of the early access portion (it went up to the Bone Hydra).
If she asks you how the dog is, tell her Cerberus is fine "Persephone, I..." "Oh Cerberus Mummy missed the doggie numnumnumnumnum". Dog, then husband. As it should be.
This needs the proper DLC, when Demeter reaches an agreement with Hades, so that Persephone spends half a year in Olympus (Spring and Summer), and the other Half in Hades (Autumn and Winter).
@@bogdandamaschin9381 And then we probably get the sequel in which Zagreus tries to run away from him to the realm of the dead much like many other Apollo's lovers 😅 And so in this part the chthonic gods send him gifts instead of olympians.
and i really reallyyy want zagreus to be able to live both in the underworld and on the surface. i like that the characters can be relatable and flawed as humans but it makes no sense for a "god" to not "survive" in a place. any place. very unlikely but i still haven't given up on a sequel i just need to see my beautiful zag to get everything he wants asfhls
Hades everytime Zagreus does something wholesome that hades agrees with but doesnt want to admit: "Don't do or say anything that can put you and I as weaklings in this realm, boy." Hades: *Big scary underworld god is a huge gentle softie for his sharp tiny wife that will put him in his place.*
Of course that would flatter a woman's ego, always with their beauty and the beast fantasies. They want a beast to tame but if they succeed the beast ceases to be what attracted them in the first place, catch 22.
"Cerberus Vanquished (Not Really)" cracked me up "Cerberus Vanquished (He's Fine)" PLEASE I CANT 😭😭 I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH LAUGHING AND THEN "Cerberus Ran Away (Where Could He Be)" CAME UP
He's rebirthed as Dionysus in mythology, depending on which story you believe. Dionysus has various origin stories and Zagreus becoming him after being killed by titans is one. So Hades can either have three children, two biological and one stepdaughter or just a daughter and stepdaughter if Zagreus isn't in those stories.
@@nocturnalcove9736 the stepdaughter part varies from myth to myth, i'm assuming you're talking about Melinoe who can be either the daughter of Zeus and Persephone or Hades and Persephone My headcanon is that she is the daughter of Hades for obvious reasons
I think in this game they're going for that he's the God Of Blood and also a God Of Rebirth. Being the Son Of the God of the Dead and a Vegetation Demi-Goddess As Persephone in this game is the child of Demeter and a mortal as opposed to Demeter and Zeus. Blood being the essence that sustains life and death not being able to hold him. Similar to how Dionysus is The God Of Wine, Madness and also a God Of Rebirth.
Imagine an alternative ending where the gods found out and it’s just you battling each god in order to bring Persephone back Would work great as a dlc too
My personal headcannon is that Thanatos comes to collect him and bridal carry him back to the river Styx. Because y'know, they are absolutely in love with each other and Persephone would absolutely approve. Edit: typo
Thank youuu!!!! I'm so angry with this game because almost everytime I met persephone, sometimes my dialogue with hades after dying will intersect with dialouge of other aspects of the story and be unrelated(like him talking to meg, or hypnos, or we talk about sisyphus). I still havent beaten the game but I draw the line here, I just saw persephone who told me not to meet her again and you know what hades said to me once I returned? "I see you brought back the administration chamber." Almost lost my mind.
@@mr.gameandtime8432 there was also dionysus but him and zagreus are connected in some myths, but dionysius was zeus child that he gave to hades and persephone to raise depending on the myth
Well they all came from the titans. The entire family tree is basically a straight line , unless you count the ones out that were created. Like Athena who basically popped out the head of Zeus... or the half mortals who were created without their mortal parents consent. I mean Apollo, Zeus and Poseidon were raping everybody out there, women, men, children...didn’t matter...all of them had terrible relationships with their kin and wife’s/husbands: They were abusive and “seduced” innocent people/ tricked them or even the other gods. They were feared by the mortals. Yet...ironically the only god couple who had moralities, never cheated, mostly trusted (if you count out that pomegranate seed thing) each other, were smart enough to never get manipulated by their kin and never raped mortals, were Hades and Persephone... which can be a metaphor for how death is not as scary as living and that the afterlife can bring you piece and security, while life itself can eff you over any second, no matter who you are. So what’s the real hades?
@@biancaivory5167 well to simplify: Hades and Persephone are actually the least problematic couple in Greek mythology and thanks to the other Greek gods life became the actual hades (which is also just another word for orcus/ hell) -> Death is easier than life.
Is a very odd thing where the commentator is just a natural occurance in the realm of Hades. So natural, that the characters within barely comment about it unless it directly influences them (like said scenes where Zagrius is trying to sneak around, and when the commentator accidentally gave away that Persephone was actually his mother.)
Persephone would return to the Underworld if she's informed that Zagreus was alive even though she was kinda unhappy living there. I guess Hades would rather let her live the life she wanted on the surface than let her be bound to the Underworld due to motherhood. :/
Hades is still a god. He’s prideful and wanted to “honor” her request that she live on her own. Plus it was probably painful for him to lose his heir and wife, and didn’t want to readdress it. Then Zag reanimates and is a walking reminder of what he’s lost. Nyx seems to be bound by a number of oaths and has to take round-about ways to accomplish her goals. I believe that she shuttled Persephone out of the underworld alongside Charon, and swore an oath to never reveal her location to the Olympians. So nyx doesn’t tell Zagreus but rather says “try this path once you’re out of here” and nyx doesn’t tell Persephone about Zagreus but let’s him reveal it himself.
This is the reason i have 140 hours in the game. Because to reveal the whole story, bit by bit, was the best experience I had in a long time. The principle Supergiant game used was just perfect for me, it is one of my most beloved games also because of this. I recommend to you to try to do it by yourself, also going for the "secret" ending, because that's one hell (pun inteded) of a ride 😉
That's... actually... a really good question. Maybe Zag says something like: "I have to find the proof before leaving." I would expect nothing less from Supergiant games, they are really thorough.
So wait... this game is saying that demeter is not hades' sister unlike the actual myth? Why? To not have the whole incest thing with Hades and persephone? So then does that also mean she isn't Zues' daughter here either? Is it the same with Hera? Because they are supposed to be different from mortals, in the fact that as long as it isn't their own children, it's fine to marry those they share blood with. I mean technically all the gods are related since they all decend from Chaos. As he birthed the primordial gods, who birthed the titans, who birthed the Olympians.
![The Story of Achilles and Patroclus [Achilles and Patroclus Interaction] Hades 1.0 Gameplay](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Fdo3s0keAy4/mqdefault.jpg)
Always appreciate the detail about Cerberus being fine when you “vanquish” him, because the entire fandom would be up in arms if we had to harm a dog.
Yes because there are so many deg enerates who think harming a dog is worse than harming a person
Because puppy
@MrLocomaximo Do you even have to ask why? Cerberus is a good boy. Sure, he is a fearsome dog who is supposed to kill those who attempt to enter or attempt to leave, but that's his *job.* He is the biggest, meanest, deadly three-headed doggo in the Underworld, and we love him for that.
If we ended up killing him; even though he is a denizen of the Underworld, and would likely just resurrect back in the House of Hades like Hades and Zagreus; we would still kill a dog. And there are very few things that can make people madder than being forced to kill a dog, even in a video game.
I think I said that out loud when I first got there “if you make me kill this damn dog so help me”
@MrLocomaximo Because everyone cried back in Dark Souls when they had to kill the dog. Those wounds have never healed, even an inch.
sorry but like the third or fourth time or so when Zagreus reaches the surface and then immediately goes to catch a fish before talking to his mom just fucking sent me like can you imagine how that would be in canon.
"Zagreus, dear, what are y--"
"Just a moment, mother, Zaggy needs fishies for monies"
I went fishing literally in Persephone’s garden once and she commented on it. It made me laugh so hard purely because I wasn’t expecting her to basically just go “nice catch”
You can hear the narrator going mentally "oh shit i fuccccked uppppp"
Where?
@@Caesar_Sandwich when he spoiled to Zagreus that Persephone is his mother
@@Caesar_Sandwich 2:55
@@Caesar_Sandwich no one-
Me- RA RA RUSPUTIN LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN THERE WAS A CAT THAT REALLY WAS GONE RA RA RASPUTIN RUSSIA’S GREATEST LOVE MACHINE IT WAS A SHAME HOW HE CARRIED OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
Homer, why?
2:38 Narrator: *spoils who Persephone is*
Zag: “ Wait, *wat* “
I love how Hades after the first defeat just goes, nope, never happened! I don't know what are you talking about! 🤥
Haha yeah I was so confused by that for a second I though I was stuck in some loop. Done by the dates.
To be fair if you were a god and got your ass handed to you by your own kid, that’s a blow to your reputation.
Man really just tried to gaslight his son, seems legit tho lol
@@undefinedmayhem7045 quite a theme with Greek myths.
i was upset like wtf this is wut happens when i beat the game lmaoo
While all the voice work is top tier, Zagreus’ actor takes the cake. He does a truly spectacular job of going from lackadaisical to intense at the right moments.
Darren Korb (Zagreus, Orpheus' singing voice) also composed most (if not all) of the songs
Darren Korb is also the fastest speedrunner among the game’s crew. He had a sub-12-minute clear of the early access portion (it went up to the Bone Hydra).
@@itslexactually what a badass
I find it really comical that Zag figured out Persephone is his mother not cause of what he found, but because of the narrator's commentary about it
"Accidentally" spilled secret.
Homer is so silly
If she asks you how the dog is, tell her Cerberus is fine
"Persephone, I..." "Oh Cerberus Mummy missed the doggie numnumnumnumnum". Dog, then husband. As it should be.
Yes
It is the law.
@MrLocomaximo You don't own a dog
This needs the proper DLC, when Demeter reaches an agreement with Hades, so that Persephone spends half a year in Olympus (Spring and Summer), and the other Half in Hades (Autumn and Winter).
And we meet the rest of the family Hera, Apollo, Hephaestus and Hestia
@@mattpaul173 apollo would become in love with Zagreus :D
@@bogdandamaschin9381 And then we probably get the sequel in which Zagreus tries to run away from him to the realm of the dead much like many other Apollo's lovers 😅 And so in this part the chthonic gods send him gifts instead of olympians.
This is actually how it ends up in the game.
and i really reallyyy want zagreus to be able to live both in the underworld and on the surface. i like that the characters can be relatable and flawed as humans but it makes no sense for a "god" to not "survive" in a place. any place. very unlikely but i still haven't given up on a sequel i just need to see my beautiful zag to get everything he wants asfhls
33:37 I JUST REALIZED THAT NYX JUST STRAIGHT UP TOLD HADES TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS HE CAUSED AKNSDJSKDSKMS
That's Nyx for you
Isnt nyx thanatos mother
@@arseneholmes6266 Yes
As she should
As a child of the primordial Chaos she has authority equal to Hades.
I loved your reaction when Hades refused to fight. Even without out audio I could see you mouth omg into the face cam
Hades: persephone I'm sorry
Persephone: CERABERUS
"Let me see my Mother." Zagreus
"No." Hades, ready to battle.
"How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man?!" Zagreus
Hades everytime Zagreus does something wholesome that hades agrees with but doesnt want to admit: "Don't do or say anything that can put you and I as weaklings in this realm, boy."
Hades: *Big scary underworld god is a huge gentle softie for his sharp tiny wife that will put him in his place.*
Of course that would flatter a woman's ego, always with their beauty and the beast fantasies. They want a beast to tame but if they succeed the beast ceases to be what attracted them in the first place, catch 22.
@@ararune3734 you ok dude?💀
@@leiahibari I'm great, thanks for your passive aggressive jab disguised as a question.
@@ararune3734 oof, someone is salty
@@tameriz1280 Someone has salt of grain for brain
57:39 this quote carries so much strength every time I hear it. Such a powerful sentiment regarding the Olympian pantheon
"Cerberus Vanquished (Not Really)" cracked me up
"Cerberus Vanquished (He's Fine)" PLEASE I CANT 😭😭
I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH LAUGHING AND THEN "Cerberus Ran Away (Where Could He Be)" CAME UP
"Cerberus Destroyed (his meal in 3 bites)"
Cerberus vanquished
*Not really*
*He's fine*
*You did this*
*Now is your chance*
*The satyr stacks*
It is bribery.
My favourite is still "Cerberus Bribed (it's bribery)"
Cerebrus vanquished
His meal. In 3 bites
My favorite is "Cerberus Vanished (Where did he go?)"
i love when Zagreous says "wait what!"
Oh zagreus what have I done
No.. what have I done..
😭😭
I love how she was more concerned about the dog than her child...
Edit: ah never mind...
I come to watch these over and over because i LOVE the music when you reach Greece/Persephone, it's just PERFECTION.
14:00 *just acts like it never happened*
Still as great a Hades & Persephone story as Lore Olympus. If Zagreus is a god, what is he the god of? Blood, Defiance, or something else
I think that in ancient tales he's the god of rebirth
He's rebirthed as Dionysus in mythology, depending on which story you believe. Dionysus has various origin stories and Zagreus becoming him after being killed by titans is one. So Hades can either have three children, two biological and one stepdaughter or just a daughter and stepdaughter if Zagreus isn't in those stories.
He is the god of mystery, hunting and rebirth. I believe he had 2 sisters, Melinoe and Makaria. Not sure though.
@@nocturnalcove9736 the stepdaughter part varies from myth to myth, i'm assuming you're talking about Melinoe who can be either the daughter of Zeus and Persephone or Hades and Persephone
My headcanon is that she is the daughter of Hades for obvious reasons
I think in this game they're going for that he's the God Of Blood and also a God Of Rebirth.
Being the Son Of the God of the Dead and a Vegetation Demi-Goddess As Persephone in this game is the child of Demeter and a mortal as opposed to Demeter and Zeus.
Blood being the essence that sustains life and death not being able to hold him.
Similar to how Dionysus is The God Of Wine, Madness and also a God Of Rebirth.
I like how this becomes so casual when Hades says "See you at home."
Imagine an alternative ending where the gods found out and it’s just you battling each god in order to bring Persephone back
Would work great as a dlc too
I think that game already exist 😀 Kratos sends his regards 💪
What happens to Zagreus's body when he dies? Does his mother have a pile of his bodies buried in the yard?
I like to think he melts Resident Evil Bioweapon style lol
@@Veedotme just like his father. She also does live next to the river styx.
My personal headcannon is that Thanatos comes to collect him and bridal carry him back to the river Styx. Because y'know, they are absolutely in love with each other and Persephone would absolutely approve.
Edit: typo
@@HollyAnneThePaganChaosWitch yasss
Thanks for this. :D really appreciate it.
My pleasure!
Thanks for this. I'm about to do the epilogue event, needed a refresher. Been a long time since the main story scenes.
Glad I could help!
Thank youuu!!!! I'm so angry with this game because almost everytime I met persephone, sometimes my dialogue with hades after dying will intersect with dialouge of other aspects of the story and be unrelated(like him talking to meg, or hypnos, or we talk about sisyphus). I still havent beaten the game but I draw the line here, I just saw persephone who told me not to meet her again and you know what hades said to me once I returned? "I see you brought back the administration chamber." Almost lost my mind.
So Hades in the end missed his queen.
......this was amazingly wholesome, wtf.
omg my heart broke completely here 45:30
That Poseidon knows less than you comment has me losing it fam.
Thank you very much for this! You editing in the text if anything obscured it was also a very nice and welcome touch!
A source says Hades has more than one kid with his wife.....
There was the goddess of blessed death and the goddess of ghosts
@@jsanto210 I would love to see a DLC where we skip ahead to see him have little sisters
@@mr.gameandtime8432 there was also dionysus but him and zagreus are connected in some myths, but dionysius was zeus child that he gave to hades and persephone to raise depending on the myth
Mad man predicted the protagonist of Hades 2 a year ago
@@iceleon25 Oh shit, That's true.
It's so fucking weird that Hades it's actually the uncle of Persephone... The old Greece had such a bad way to create families...
SGG wrote out all the incest for this. Yeah it's really uncomfortable
Well they all came from the titans. The entire family tree is basically a straight line , unless you count the ones out that were created. Like Athena who basically popped out the head of Zeus... or the half mortals who were created without their mortal parents consent. I mean Apollo, Zeus and Poseidon were raping everybody out there, women, men, children...didn’t matter...all of them had terrible relationships with their kin and wife’s/husbands: They were abusive and “seduced” innocent people/ tricked them or even the other gods.
They were feared by the mortals. Yet...ironically the only god couple who had moralities, never cheated, mostly trusted (if you count out that pomegranate seed thing) each other, were smart enough to never get manipulated by their kin and never raped mortals, were Hades and Persephone... which can be a metaphor for how death is not as scary as living and that the afterlife can bring you piece and security, while life itself can eff you over any second, no matter who you are.
So what’s the real hades?
@@annaavertho4944 what
@@biancaivory5167 well to simplify: Hades and Persephone are actually the least problematic couple in Greek mythology and thanks to the other Greek gods life became the actual hades (which is also just another word for orcus/ hell) -> Death is easier than life.
@@annaavertho4944 Least problematic, but still weird.
who else came here to check out laila berzins’s other roles?
I love how Smarmy Zegreus talks! lmao
I watched this whole video and I have no regrets
Is a very odd thing where the commentator is just a natural occurance in the realm of Hades. So natural, that the characters within barely comment about it unless it directly influences them (like said scenes where Zagrius is trying to sneak around, and when the commentator accidentally gave away that Persephone was actually his mother.)
So, erm, why didn't Hades or Nyx send word to Persephone that Zagreus was actually alive?
Hades is bad dad and Nyx is bound by an oath for saving Zags life
Persephone would return to the Underworld if she's informed that Zagreus was alive even though she was kinda unhappy living there. I guess Hades would rather let her live the life she wanted on the surface than let her be bound to the Underworld due to motherhood. :/
Hades is still a god. He’s prideful and wanted to “honor” her request that she live on her own. Plus it was probably painful for him to lose his heir and wife, and didn’t want to readdress it. Then Zag reanimates and is a walking reminder of what he’s lost.
Nyx seems to be bound by a number of oaths and has to take round-about ways to accomplish her goals. I believe that she shuttled Persephone out of the underworld alongside Charon, and swore an oath to never reveal her location to the Olympians. So nyx doesn’t tell Zagreus but rather says “try this path once you’re out of here” and nyx doesn’t tell Persephone about Zagreus but let’s him reveal it himself.
It has to do with what demeter would do if she wasn't told what happened the right way.
Yeah imma have to not kill hades 10 times and just watch this video
happy to help lol
Yeap much appreciated
This is the reason i have 140 hours in the game. Because to reveal the whole story, bit by bit, was the best experience I had in a long time. The principle Supergiant game used was just perfect for me, it is one of my most beloved games also because of this. I recommend to you to try to do it by yourself, also going for the "secret" ending, because that's one hell (pun inteded) of a ride 😉
Man this game needs a Cerberus mini DLC instead of just interacting with him like say playing catch using your abilities etc.
What happens if you go see Persephone without seeing the picture in Hades room?
That's... actually... a really good question.
Maybe Zag says something like: "I have to find the proof before leaving." I would expect nothing less from Supergiant games, they are really thorough.
So wait... this game is saying that demeter is not hades' sister unlike the actual myth? Why? To not have the whole incest thing with Hades and persephone? So then does that also mean she isn't Zues' daughter here either? Is it the same with Hera? Because they are supposed to be different from mortals, in the fact that as long as it isn't their own children, it's fine to marry those they share blood with. I mean technically all the gods are related since they all decend from Chaos. As he birthed the primordial gods, who birthed the titans, who birthed the Olympians.
It’s one step detached
What game is this
Hades - An award-winning roguelite from Supergiant Games
43:00 "In the blood"?
On the Coast
26:12