I test drove the 330i and while so many people claim it to be a bit stiff or harsh for daily driving, i found it okay. But i also drive golf gti so maybe im just used to the stiff suspension lol. Yes the c class is a lot smoother drive but its also very floaty and swervy when its in high speed (>160kmh). You want total comfort? You don’t get performance. And vice versa. So choose what you prefer.
I think bcos u drove golf before this, your use to performance car dampers. However those whom have experience with bmw knows that it should ride comfortably when it should be. That's why u buy these luxuries car, to get best of both world!
Thank you Adrian, nice video. BMW is always looking for new customers. The new car designs should compromise to keep the current customers but to attract new ones. This is my case. I used to be the typical Toyota Camry lover. However, this G20 transformed me into a BMW lover. Greetings from Mexico.
I'm quite surprised at your description of the 320i's suspension. Piece of advice then you shouldn't test drive the 330i or your butt will be destroyed to a million pieces lol Jokes aside the 320i's suspension is absolutely perfect IMO. Comfortable enough yet feels sporty enough for some spirited driving but by no means it felt harsh. Sorry but I totally disagree about the C200. Compared to the 320i the C200 interior may look better but the 320i's interior feels more solid in terms of build quality. Nothing wiggles when you apply pressure and press buttons or try to move anything. The C200's interior I admit may look more premium but buttons and such wiggle and the clicks and overall mechanism of them feels utterly cheap when you push them around especially the row of climate control buttons below the front aircon vents. Also the C200's interior is way more cramp than the 320i in the rear, plus most importantly the 320i has full sized rear seats which provides excellent thigh support. The rear seats in the C200 are horribly short, thigh support is only excellent if you're a child or a midget, else it is just so-so and isn't very good for long distance driving. Not to mention the leather seats, slightly firmer in the 320i than the C200 but the real leather feels much nicer to the touch than the fake stuff you get in the C200. And don't even mention the drive, 320i any day, any hour, any minute, any second. The bar is set so high in this department that I am even beginning to doubt if the W206 would be able to match it much less beat it. Sorry man the 320i trumps the C200 in every department except probably the looks, interior wise at the moment. But then again since when has BMW ever cared about the interior lol! To me the interior is a huge enough step up from the F30 and that is good enough. Exterior is debatable and subjected to personal tastes. It is worth noting though the C200 is a 5 year old car in the market. But if you're looking at either RIGHT NOW, get the 320i, else wait for the W206. Coming from a guy who has both in the driveway right now. 2 months ownership so far for the 320i and 1 month ownership for the C200 (wife).
How quite is the C Class? Bobby Ang said even the Proton X70 is way quiter. Btw out of all the generations of the 3 series the F30 generation was the most softly sprung and deviated furthest from its sport sedan roots. With the G20 BMW has just decided to stick back to its roots and focus on driving performance. Its called ride and handling for a reason, the F30 any car enthusiast would know is way too soft and unsettled when you're really going at speed be it on straights or corners especially the 320i F30 which felt like a german camry not a good thing. The G20 in this department is a quantum leap from the F30 the ride on the new 320i can be described as quite a margin stiffer than its predecessor but much more controlled and planted. So its up to you would you like a bimmer to be floaty and comfortable? Or controlled and planted? I know which 1 most enthusiast would pick. Additionally the 330i is stiff no doubt but the handling and sharpness compared to the 320i is a two steps up. Shaper steering, better handling, more powerful, better braking (front unbranded brembo) drives like a true sports sedan. Verdit 320i is the pick for most buyers who can do without the extra driving dynamics and performance but instead prefer a more family oriented drive. 330i for keen drivers and enthusiasts for want the proper bmw ultimate driving machine feel who can bear with a hasher ride. And the C200 and C300 for people who value style, design and brand image above all else.
17 inch wheels and no more cures a lot. I never spec more than 17” on my Cars. I have driven all, Audi, Mercedes and BMW and that solved the comfort issues for the most
@@hananifirzaaaahh6666 I have 2 Audis A4 b8 and A6 c7 before, and the both car suspensions give me nightmare. They just don't cope with MY hot weather and pothole road. I got phobia now hearing Audi.
If it had adaptive M dampers it would have been better. Even the G20 330i doesn't have the adaptive M dampers. However, the suspension still bearable and acceptable.
Hey Adrian, I wonder if you could review the Stinger. I haven't seen videos of that car done by any local mirroring channel so far considering it has been 2 years I think since it sold here lol. The car received quite raving compliments from overseas journalists.
What I really want to know is if this G20 still has that issue of creaking and the leather seats rubbing against each other creating this weird noise when taking corners like how the previous generations had it Also the way the car reacts to bumps, reminds me of my myvi lol where you can feel every.single.bump
The problem with G20 is...to fully appreciate the car, you need to drive it like you stole it..which is not realistic. For me I would go for the all rounder C200 which ticks more boxes than 320i. It has feature which u can appreciate all the time. Digital cluster. Bigger screen. Rear and door shades. Additional knee air bag. Rear floor storage.Full electric steering column with memory function. For astectics full AMG body kit with wheels and Brembo 4 pot brake kit which is over kill.
The 320i never had and never will have an LSD.. I am aware that your comment is a year+ old but still I will explain it to you. The car monitors wheelspin on both rear wheels and if one is spinning too fast compared to the other then it will apply brakes to slow it down. An open differential then "sees" 2 wheels spinning at similar speed so it sends more power to the slower wheel than it otherwise would...allows for drifting on an open diff, until your rear brakes overheat..so if you want to drift/powerslide a 320i you better spend some money on rear brakes and brake fluid :D
Haha understand what you mean I have a 528i as well. But no, this time my wife 330i use nicer plastic not the rubber material so no problem. You can buy add on stick on and solved.
@@alexliew9254 yes, i know, what i mean is that, this car is not comfortable for the passengers, it's not really a "driver's car" persè, but you know... 😊 so for me, if you want your passenger to be comfortable, better choose other model or maker.
Zer0 Pulse if you think the 320i’s ride is harsh your tolerance must be really really low. Even my old folks who are above 60 has no issue with the ride on the 320i. The 330i is a different animal altogether and they did complain of nausea during one of my extended test drives, but 320i they were perfectly fine. I mean don’t expect Passat like comfort but the 320i isn’t very far IMO.
@@zxlrxsyxd unfair kalau compare dgn w205 facelift..sbb tu mat salleh kalau buat video kereta,dia compare dgn pesaing yg "sezaman"..bkn compare kereta baru dgn model pesaing sebelumnya
I test drove the 330i and while so many people claim it to be a bit stiff or harsh for daily driving, i found it okay. But i also drive golf gti so maybe im just used to the stiff suspension lol. Yes the c class is a lot smoother drive but its also very floaty and swervy when its in high speed (>160kmh). You want total comfort? You don’t get performance. And vice versa. So choose what you prefer.
I think bcos u drove golf before this, your use to performance car dampers. However those whom have experience with bmw knows that it should ride comfortably when it should be. That's why u buy these luxuries car, to get best of both world!
Thank you Adrian, nice video. BMW is always looking for new customers. The new car designs should compromise to keep the current customers but to attract new ones. This is my case. I used to be the typical Toyota Camry lover. However, this G20 transformed me into a BMW lover. Greetings from Mexico.
I'm quite surprised at your description of the 320i's suspension. Piece of advice then you shouldn't test drive the 330i or your butt will be destroyed to a million pieces lol Jokes aside the 320i's suspension is absolutely perfect IMO. Comfortable enough yet feels sporty enough for some spirited driving but by no means it felt harsh. Sorry but I totally disagree about the C200. Compared to the 320i the C200 interior may look better but the 320i's interior feels more solid in terms of build quality. Nothing wiggles when you apply pressure and press buttons or try to move anything. The C200's interior I admit may look more premium but buttons and such wiggle and the clicks and overall mechanism of them feels utterly cheap when you push them around especially the row of climate control buttons below the front aircon vents. Also the C200's interior is way more cramp than the 320i in the rear, plus most importantly the 320i has full sized rear seats which provides excellent thigh support. The rear seats in the C200 are horribly short, thigh support is only excellent if you're a child or a midget, else it is just so-so and isn't very good for long distance driving. Not to mention the leather seats, slightly firmer in the 320i than the C200 but the real leather feels much nicer to the touch than the fake stuff you get in the C200. And don't even mention the drive, 320i any day, any hour, any minute, any second. The bar is set so high in this department that I am even beginning to doubt if the W206 would be able to match it much less beat it. Sorry man the 320i trumps the C200 in every department except probably the looks, interior wise at the moment. But then again since when has BMW ever cared about the interior lol! To me the interior is a huge enough step up from the F30 and that is good enough. Exterior is debatable and subjected to personal tastes. It is worth noting though the C200 is a 5 year old car in the market. But if you're looking at either RIGHT NOW, get the 320i, else wait for the W206. Coming from a guy who has both in the driveway right now. 2 months ownership so far for the 320i and 1 month ownership for the C200 (wife).
Collecting my 320i this week. Will be my first car. Can't wait! :)
Yeah bro, i was confused too. Glad to have the owner who owns both merc and bmw to speak up.
Hi, how's your exp with d 320i n it's realiability...m.planning to get one.... what's d best deal ya?
thanks bro for the review, appreciate thatb
@@ivankjt I'm collecting mine (m sport) on thursday, already bought the gloss black grill and rear spoiler:)
Great job! Carry on developing your channel! Greetings from Poland!
I tested the 330i and found the suspension to be pretty harsh for a daily driver. Great handling, though.
hahaha, M Sport suspension for you.
this car is built for high speed smooth surfaced autobahn, not for our potholes ridden roads :(
Yes it is m sport spec..
How quite is the C Class? Bobby Ang said even the Proton X70 is way quiter. Btw out of all the generations of the 3 series the F30 generation was the most softly sprung and deviated furthest from its sport sedan roots. With the G20 BMW has just decided to stick back to its roots and focus on driving performance. Its called ride and handling for a reason, the F30 any car enthusiast would know is way too soft and unsettled when you're really going at speed be it on straights or corners especially the 320i F30 which felt like a german camry not a good thing. The G20 in this department is a quantum leap from the F30 the ride on the new 320i can be described as quite a margin stiffer than its predecessor but much more controlled and planted. So its up to you would you like a bimmer to be floaty and comfortable? Or controlled and planted? I know which 1 most enthusiast would pick. Additionally the 330i is stiff no doubt but the handling and sharpness compared to the 320i is a two steps up. Shaper steering, better handling, more powerful, better braking (front unbranded brembo) drives like a true sports sedan. Verdit 320i is the pick for most buyers who can do without the extra driving dynamics and performance but instead prefer a more family oriented drive. 330i for keen drivers and enthusiasts for want the proper bmw ultimate driving machine feel who can bear with a hasher ride. And the C200 and C300 for people who value style, design and brand image above all else.
17 inch wheels and no more cures a lot. I never spec more than 17” on my Cars. I have driven all, Audi, Mercedes and BMW and that solved the comfort issues for the most
But my preferred is the Audi A4 out of 3 Series..
@@hananifirzaaaahh6666 I have 2 Audis A4 b8 and A6 c7 before, and the both car suspensions give me nightmare. They just don't cope with MY hot weather and pothole road. I got phobia now hearing Audi.
Fantastic review 👏🏽
11:25 the facelifted C class doesn’t comes with MBUX hehe. It uses the revamped version of the old mercedes command.
Take a shot each time Adrian says "sport"
32?
I agree with Adrian. Suspension is absolute worst in new G20 models. Long drive is a nightmare in my brother's 330i especially for passengers.
G30 is the code for the 5 series. G20 for the 3 series
does it crash over potholes?
good honest review
Agree. Test drove the 330i. Great driving dynamics but harsh ride.
any reference cars that you compared the ride quality with?
If it had adaptive M dampers it would have been better. Even the G20 330i doesn't have the adaptive M dampers. However, the suspension still bearable and acceptable.
does it crash over potholes?
This G20 is much better than my F31 in every way!
Hi WapCar. The C-class doesn't come with MBUX.
Wah, then what do u think about the 330i then?
It's the run flat tyres that caused the uncomfortable ride
You thought F30 not run flat tyres a? Same lah.
It's the suspension callibration
Do we need to stay alert with the G20 as part of the 320i naming scheme? So, in future, it will be H20?
Hahaha it's the model code bro..but H20 is one of a kind 🤣🤣🤣
Hey Adrian, I wonder if you could review the Stinger. I haven't seen videos of that car done by any local mirroring channel so far considering it has been 2 years I think since it sold here lol. The car received quite raving compliments from overseas journalists.
No test car available in Malaysia
Does BMW 320i 2021 comes in with wireless charging tray?
No mention of the all important driver assist system? Or is there any? I thought so.
I love the colour
I wonder if bmw will put adaptive suspension on higher end 3 series (330e or 330i)..adaptive suspension might be the answer to the comfortable ride
There is adaptive suspension on the 330e, but not sure if it makes a lot of difference
How is this compare to passat elegance? Though 1 might say it is at different premium class
the passat has smoother ride i guess other than that the 3 series wins
You are right on the absorber, it has many tech that you left out but compare to a C200, Mercedes rule.
is it stiffer than a 2020 mazda 3? the mazda 3 is as stiff as my 2013 kia forte sx the last time i drove it.
As stiff, not stiffer
What I really want to know is if this G20 still has that issue of creaking and the leather seats rubbing against each other creating this weird noise when taking corners like how the previous generations had it
Also the way the car reacts to bumps, reminds me of my myvi lol where you can feel every.single.bump
Mine has it
the 320i might have very goOd drive but when comes to comfort, luxury and premium... its still behind the C200 AMG Line...
Merc gives what you can see with your eyes. Beamer gives you the drive.
Good morning Adrian ... i need your or anyone else who can advise me on whether to choose 330i m sport or C 300 amg for my daily business use , tq
The problem with G20 is...to fully appreciate the car, you need to drive it like you stole it..which is not realistic. For me I would go for the all rounder C200 which ticks more boxes than 320i. It has feature which u can appreciate all the time. Digital cluster. Bigger screen. Rear and door shades. Additional knee air bag. Rear floor storage.Full electric steering column with memory function. For astectics full AMG body kit with wheels and Brembo 4 pot brake kit which is over kill.
My uncle got one and i want to have one also but i want to wait for BMW discount promotion... cause buying an expensive car is not easy...
Ya it really is especially during the pandemic everyone don't have much money... so must wait for some promotion...
@@nathankumilagasami1439 U got the point, so i think BMW will not have any event recently maybe after the pandemic..? so just wait
U guys haven't know the newest event meh???
@@pattykwon9064 WOW, sounds like very good lehh, what's the event O, bro?
@@pattykwon9064 What event woh, got meh???
I like this video.
And also it how compare to A4 and XE too as C Class and S60 as well...
How much this? HP?
Rough ride could be caused by RFT tyres
2020 audi a4 tak masuk malaysia ke?
Masuk dah
I have a F30 and it's too floaty to my liking, especially in the rear.
Which model of the F30 do you have? I've been in my friend's 330e a couple of times. Brilliant damping and feels planted. Could be due to the weight.
@@rvind92g it was 328i
Fully agree 👍
You should just buy a camry.
it has LSD?
The 320i never had and never will have an LSD.. I am aware that your comment is a year+ old but still I will explain it to you. The car monitors wheelspin on both rear wheels and if one is spinning too fast compared to the other then it will apply brakes to slow it down. An open differential then "sees" 2 wheels spinning at similar speed so it sends more power to the slower wheel than it otherwise would...allows for drifting on an open diff, until your rear brakes overheat..so if you want to drift/powerslide a 320i you better spend some money on rear brakes and brake fluid :D
Review BMW 340i to...
In three months, the door handle will be sticky just like the F30 lmao
Haha understand what you mean I have a 528i as well. But no, this time my wife 330i use nicer plastic not the rubber material so no problem. You can buy add on stick on and solved.
320i
This is a driver's car, not ideal to be a proper family car imo...
This isnt a drivers car the M cars are
@@alexliew9254 yes, i know, what i mean is that, this car is not comfortable for the passengers, it's not really a "driver's car" persè, but you know... 😊
so for me, if you want your passenger to be comfortable, better choose other model or maker.
Zer0 Pulse if you think the 320i’s ride is harsh your tolerance must be really really low. Even my old folks who are above 60 has no issue with the ride on the 320i. The 330i is a different animal altogether and they did complain of nausea during one of my extended test drives, but 320i they were perfectly fine. I mean don’t expect Passat like comfort but the 320i isn’t very far IMO.
@@s1gheart Are you referring to pre FL Passat HL or current Passat Elegance
In my term, this is young man car and merc is older man car. You knw young man's back is stronger can withstand it lol.
F series suspension perfect tune..??sure not..
3:50 - Typical BMW driving behavior! Just kidding... 😜
U sitting way too close to d steering...
fuh 320i pon boleh drift
Boleh je, asalkan RWD. Tak semestinya kena power besar.
BMW *M* alaysia
beli macan ler 😁😁
Try driving a porsche... feels everything under...
And i my opinion,G20 should be compare to the new w206 c class
lmao problem is W206 havent been revealed by merc yet 🤣
@@zxlrxsyxd i know..but that's the model to compare with neck to neck with G20..not the facelifted W205 laaa
@@nazarf1884 dah tu since W206 tak keluar lagi.. memang W205 facelift la lawan G20 ni
@@zxlrxsyxd unfair kalau compare dgn w205 facelift..sbb tu mat salleh kalau buat video kereta,dia compare dgn pesaing yg "sezaman"..bkn compare kereta baru dgn model pesaing sebelumnya
@@zxlrxsyxd w205 facelift should be compare to F30 facelift..baru fair
Personally after saw Arteon design, G20 looks saw so dull and boring both exterior and interior.
If you want to go for the look, by all means dont buy bmw.
@@Priestitude im not going to buy it anyway. It is just my opinion. It is a fact that arteon simply beautiful and attractive. Nothing else.
First
Bmw tak cukup feel... Mercedes lagi feel.
Bro merc handling tak best bmw lagi best sebab drivers car..
@@Radiation580 yeahhh broo 😆
Audi lagi "feel" dari dua ekor tambah pulak dengan Quattro AWD lagi