DUNE IMAX Footage | Standard VS. IMAX Comparison Side by Side
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2022
- Take a look at DUNE Part One @imaxmovies scenes in the full aspect ratio as I compare it side-by-side with the standard version to see the differences. #Dune #Imax #comparison
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not releasing the IMAX aspect ratio on the 4k blu-ray was a crime. It's a bit sad that Denis Villeneuve always talks about "the way it was meant to be seen" but then not releasing the full footage for us to enjoy at home. Not everyone has an IMAX cinema near them.
There are rumors that they will release an IMAX 4K bluray edition
What's worse is, eventually they might release it and charge the full amount, and there has been NO reason not to release it on blu ray...
@@CockworkOrange I know but you can't put rumors in your blu-ray player 😂Tbh I think the only way we might get a physical release with IMAX aspect ratio is some kind of special edition box with Dune part 1 and 2 combined. So we can finally buy it and Warner can squeeze some more solaris out of all the hardcore dune fans. _Squeeze hard Rabban!_
@@joshTHX that’s why you give them OPTION to pick!
@@joshTHX that was in 1.33:1
I love that we went from 4:3 to 16:9 to basically back to 4:3 again.
it's a trend that I don't particularly care for, since 4:3 screens are pretty rare these days. :)
IMAX has been here the whole time. It’s just been a niche format that used to be used for nature documentaries.
4:3 is the better ratio
@@ryanjosephdponly for imax, for everything else it means a cropped movie (except open matte 35mm, but that's kinda rare these days too)
Really 1.33:1 and 1.66:1 (foreign), to 1:85:1, then 2.35:1, and now back to just over 1.33:1. 4:3 (same as 1:33:1) and 16:9 are video formats. On the Waterfront (1954) was often seen in both 1.85:1 and open-matted 1.33:1. Very different impacts from its more intimate scenes. Dune is expansive and epic in either of its formats.
Dune really does feel like a movie that got cropped to scale. The imax version really feels like how Dune should be represented, and unfortunately, the standard version feels restricted to a format it's not meant to be in.
They should at the very least release a 16:9 version. While not full imax it would be far better than 2.39:1 (letterbox)
While I agree that it would been great to see some of the shots "uncropped", we should remember that a lot of the movie was shot on anamorphic lenses where the uncropped aspect ratio is around 2.40:1. Some movies (famously a few Nolan movies) have compromised in some versions to jump between 2.40:1 and 16:9 depending on if it was shot on anamorphic or IMAX.
It might have been a good approach for Dune as well, but 2.40:1 jumping to 1.43:1 back and forth would be quite distracting.
I personally do not like when anamorphic is cropped to 16:9, losing the width and breadth of the scene, but maybe a version jumping between 2.40:1 and 16:9 would be interesting to watch.
Scale is lost and scale is one of the key aspects of the story of Dune
@@TwoKlicksAway I’ve watched the Marvel films on Disney+ that show the IMAX versions and I thought the switch in ratios would be distracting but I found that a lot of the time I’d realise that I was now watching a different ratio some way into the scene, or when I did notice the change point it was at an appropriate scene change and actually added to the sense of scale - epic or intimate. Some of the later films are 100% in the IMAX ratio (although maybe not shot on actual IMAX, I don’t know) and it was kind of disappointing as you just became used to it and didn’t feel the effect of the change. Maybe that’s just me though - I found that when I used to watch 3D films, after half an hour I’d be peering over my glasses to check I was still seeing it in 3D as I’d grown used to the effect and was no longer noticing it as much. But if done properly a change in screen ratio can become another part of film language - another tool in the filmmaker’s box. For example a Marvel film that takes place in space, when cutting from an interior to a shot of the vista of outer space the ratio would open up and you’d get a greater sense of scale, whether you consciously noticed it or not, you still felt it. People had similar concerns when stereo was introduced to the music industry, that listeners would find it distracting (and I suppose if done particularly stupidly or badly then it could be - and then again sometimes that was the desired effect). Even recently I remember being “advised” that when mixing drums never to do anything like pan the hi-hat full left and the tom or snare full right because it will sound as though the drummer had impossibly long arms! 🤔
@@BlueGrenadeTom Good points all around, I agree. I don't think I've seen a Marvel movie (with the IMAX enabled on Disney+) that shows anything close to the IMAX aspect ration of 1.43:1 though. I think they use 1.77:1 or maybe even 1.85:1 for their IMAX shots (which are both close to 16:9) similar to what we've already seen in Nolan's films. So I still believe constant jumping between 2.40:1 and 1.43:1 would be too distracting, but I honestly haven't seen it done, so I might be wrong! I'm totally open to see it in action, and make up an informed decision then.
It’s funny how 5-7 years ago it was considered so ancient to see a movie in 4:3 but now it feels so expansive and world building to see a movie shown in 4:3
It's not 4:3
@@TheStOne1 It's not far off though, and is functionally almost the same.
It depends on how the movie was shot.
Back then you were dying to get a wider view of the films. Now that everything's wider, you're dying for a taller view to get that vertigo effect of "falling into" the frame. It's image to your left, to your right, and top and bottom - image as far as the eye can see. IMAX changed everything.
It saddens me every time a filmmaker goes strictly wide now, which is one of the reasons why I've loved Robert Eggers filmography so far.
It's more about how the individual films are shot. Some look better on ultrawide some look better on the imax format.. Etc
Oddly enough, my abiding memory of the IMAX experience was the sound. Particularly the forming of the voice. It actually felt like a physical force. Anyone who streamed this at home really missed out.
I remember every single time they used the voice I felt a wave come over me. It was almost hypnotic, which I assume was the intended effect
IMAX sound is such an incredible feature. Almost like a 5th dimension added to movie. Villeneuves movies are always a reason for me to choose the IMAX screening. Blade Runner 2049 was a literal blast too!
Bold of you to assume I don't have THX quality fronts and subs paired with my 24" PC monitor
In my house it was better: I could turn down the volume as I pleased. Something I was begging for in theaters. The sound is so... Weird in this film. So annoyingly high and akward at times for me.
The voice was cool, but I found the Imax to be too loud in general. The score overwhelmed the dialog and during some of the battle scenes I literally had to plug my ears because the noise was painful.
A lot of work went into putting this together. I had to color correct most of the IMAX plates and match it to the standard Dune scenes because most of it came unmatched, so it was a painstaking process. I wanted to get the colors as best as possible to match. There were also syncing issues with the IMAX footage because of extra frames or missing frames, making it a nightmare to sync. Some scenes i had to cut frame by frame to stich them together and work. I had to restore some scenes, cleaning watermarks and strange ghosting over the footage. All this was to provide the best viewing experience for you all. If you like these efforts, please give the video a thumbs up. You can also send a thanks, join as a channel member: ua-cam.com/channels/3Pjs49IEa_YSmYt3NH1ndw.htmljoin or Patreon: www.patreon.com/secretsofdune if you really loved it. Thank you for all the kindness and support!
Edit: As I am also being asked several times about the sources of the IMAX footage, the sources I can provide are as follows: DNEG & RodeoFX showreels/Dune documentaries/Dune Trailers.
Shit they still haven't release mission impossible ghost protocol IMAX version yet. They should also do a catching fire 4k re release with the imax footage in 4k scanned from 12k. That movie was amazing as hell in 70mm
@@mtvisionary YES! I remember the IMAX footage reveal in the Catching Fire trailer and it was one of the best trailer experiences in recent memory! Lately I've been getting a lot more into my 4K, Open Matte versions of movies and it's been really interesting exploring all that.
@@secretsofdune Catching fire had a amazing transition when going IMAX and a massive jump in quality. It was one of the best look IMAX experiences people forgot about.
How/from whom did you obtain the uncropped shots in the first place? Thank you for putting this out but all youve done is frustrate me all over again that i missed this in imax because they only played it for a verrry limited time and that for whatever reason the IMAX version has yet to be released. Id pay a lot for to own this film the way the filmmaker designed and framed the shots as he intended.
Thanks for ALL the work you put into this! Obviously a labor of love. 👍👍
Also, Everyone owes it to themselves(and to Denis)to see these films in IMAX at least once.
Man, I had no idea it looked THIS MUCH better in Imax ratio. It's painfully clear that each shot was composed for the that aspect ratio and it explains why I felt the sense of scale wasn't quite there for me when I watched the movie.
Also, oh my goodness, 4:21 is just an absolutely gorgeous shot in the IMAX version!!!!!
I constantly struggle with the fact that the full aspect ratio will never be available in the future and lost to time. I will riot if they don't eventually release a box set with the full aspect ratio.
They won’t. Unfortunately no one cares about home entertainment
@@RaeuberFotzenRotz Denis Villeneuve has hinted at a IMAX blu ray release
Lasah
Man, seeing the full height frames really makes the cropped version feel claustrophobic
I hope they release full height version of both part 1 & 2 after part 2 comes out. I would absolutely buy a box set of both parts
Even the color grade looks better on the full IMAX version
Who we should contact? The film company? Make a plea, demand, law suit?
I just hope that we will see it one day.
the IMAX scenes just take my breath away. I feel robbed that we can't take this version home.
You should feel robbed, because you were, really :P Someone made a decision to take it away from you on purpose, to force you to go to a cinema. Nothing new under the Sun, of course.
@@LuaanTi Rude.
To watch this film even once in IMAX was such a blessing. I hope they rerelease it in IMAX in lieu of part 2. But an extended edition of Dune especially in IMAX (if we ever get the opportunity for an extended edition)? That would be an epic experience.
Rali, I must say that it's been a while since we've seen any of your videos. But I'm so glad you're back and I cannot wait for more content.
It was a blessing to see it in IMAX, went once alone and then took my son the second time!
Certainly not "in lieu of" but hopefully "contemporaneous with"!
@@r_bear I was about to say.
in lieu means instead of
Im guessing that's not what you meant haha
The day has arrived 😊
I've only ever seen Dune in the standard aspect ratio. When I first watched it, I couldn't help but feel like the shots were cramped. The flight when they arrive over the city, the sandworm observing Paul, the establishing landscape shots---they all felt like they were lacking in the grandeur feeling they were trying to present. Now I understand why.
I hope we get a bluray release of the IMAX aspect ratio one day, perhaps as a box set after the second part comes out. There's so much information missing with the current cropping in standard.
I had the privilege to experience this film in a giant IMAX with Laser at Lincoln Square in NYC. Truly one of the most amazing experiences I had in the cinema. The giant image combined with the loud bombastic sound system of the IMAX theater was amazing 🤩
My fav theater in the entire country
Lincoln Square in NYC - just going up the dizzying series of escalators inside that massive glass atrium will get you in the mood; like a ascending a stairway to the heavens.
That theater is incredible. I saw Avatar 2 there and it was spectacular
@@wiiplaya25 was it in high frame rate? i saw it another giant IMAX (the one in new rochelle, NY) and it was in high frame rate but it is a single laser projection system unlike the dual laser projector system in Lincoln Square and I heard the double was not capable of high frame rate. I could be wrong though which im pretty sure i am
imagine Dune on the sphere in Las Vegas O.O!
What a change of scales between the two versions. It seems, in some takes, another movie.
I don't know why Warner didn't released an IMAX version in blu ray or in HBO Max. Hope that means that they are planning to do it with an extended cut. Well, we can dream.
What an awesome work you gift us with your dedication and love for Dune. Thanks, Räli.
Denis Villeneuve has said there won't be an extended cut, he isn't a fan of them. IIRC he said he feels the theatrical version is always going to be what he intended either way.
@@johnnyrivas2619 Yes, I knew that. But it's strange not having the IMAX version even in HBO Max. About the extended cut, same happened with Peter Jackson and LOTR and I think Warner decided the release of a extended cut. Who knows....
@@johnnyrivas2619 There is absolutely no way that the incredibly hurried film I saw with in some places bad cuts, obvious missing deleted scenes, and the weird intro made up of recycled footage that felt like a trailer, was how it was originally intended. He even says in the video description here that there are sync issues between the Imax version and normal version because the Imax version was cut differently. That in itself proves that the theatrical/DVD release wasnt the intended product.
@@patreekotime4578 you'll have to ask him, just going by what he's said himself.
@@nic_el_loco I think not possible way they shot it
I really don't understand not releasing the IMAX version at streaming. Hunger Games: Catching Fire did it years ago.
We need 4K Blu-Ray not streaming ;)
No they did not.
@@CockworkOrange blu ray included ofc
@@skoomamuch356 yes bro :D hopefully both
Never let this go. The world must see the full picture one day.
Imax is way closer to the proportion of every TV that people have in their homes. Im sure most of us would rather have the IMax cut, the film as it was SHOT, in our DVD collection. Its insane to me that we get a cropped version that wastes half of the screen for home viewing.
10:19 I had no idea the ship looked like that!!! I went to see it three times in IMAX too, think I hot shown the standard one just bigger…
the issue is that clearly the movie was filmed with an aspect ratio that was used to determine the framing You can leave extra space as a buffer, but only to a point. Ultimately there is a vision and the framing is chosen by the movie maker. So they should just stick with that for every release. Of course they won't, because people would be mad they had black bars on the sides of their screens. Who cares. I'd rather have the original ratio. But i'd also rather have a standard accepted aspect ratio and just have everyone use it. theaters, bluray, whatever. 16:9 seems like a pretty good balance. you can frame things as needed. But either way. Imax would be fine. just start using that for TVs and blurays. video games, etc. What a pain to deal with all of this stuff. But at a bare minimum just release the movie in the original ratio for purists. whatever else you do is just extra...
Saw at the AMC Lincoln IMAX theater in Manhattan. Second largest IMAX screen in the world. Surreal and truly a theatrical event.
Hope it gets another screening round when Part Two is about to come out.
Definitely seeing part 2 at Pooler Imax, I'm going to see Avatar there soon. So glad they opened a huge real imax in the south that's less then 3 hours away.
the difference is incredible. everyone who chose to watch it at home instead of the theater, especially in imax, didn't really give it a fair shot. there's just no easy way to recreate what you can experience at imax with a movie like this.
However, makes you wonder... why don't they just release the 1.43:1 aspect ratio for home viewing??
Probably rather have it framed for 1.78, so you get the most immersive image on HDTVs but would like the option for the 1.43 framing.
As for not watching it the theater, Covid was and still is an active thing and still killing by the thousands so I fully understand those who choose not to go watching it in a packed space.
"chose" to watch at home?! Check your privilege.
"Chose"? Dune didn't even come to cinemas in my country, let alone in IMAX.
I saw it on mushrooms in the theatre, blue meanies to be exact
This pisses me off so much. Why would u create a crappy inferior version of any product or art or film?!?! U know? I feel jipped. My first viewing I would’ve wanted the best ratio that it was meant to be… and filmed in…
Seeing Dune on IMAX screen was amazing. I haven't been to IMAX before, and the tickets were sold out, so we sat in the 2nd row, which usually is trash... But I didn't mind, I was so immersed and impressed.
After that I took my parents to regular cinema to see Dune, and even though this time we had great seats... The movie felt "not enough".
This vid clearly shows why it felt "not enough". I hope to see next part in IMAX as well.
Cannot imagine the amount of time and energy that was put into this work. Thank you for this beautiful video Ralí
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.
The second movie is ENTIRELY filmed with IMAX cameras. If you have a true IMAX theater near you, definitely go see it in that format. I unfortunately did not see Dune Part One in IMAX but I will not be denying myself that experience for Part Two
I'm hoping to take the whole family to see it again in IMAX, if they bring it back before the release of part two.
I watched this in IMAX. I'm so glad I did now, not realising how much I would have otherwise missed visually.
It was stunning.
WB and IMAX, we need this version!
Man, not a month has gone by where I haven't at least once thought, "I wish Dune were still in theaters." I just want to see it again, again, and again. It's extremely rare I feel this way about a movie. But my whole soul just wants to marinate into the cosmic mystery of DUNE.
now it's your time :)
Me too!!!
This movie and soundtrack is just so beautiful. What an experience it was at IMAX. It felt just like the day I watched Fellowship of the Ring on its release day. Both movies make me so happy.
what i notice is that without the cropping, every shot is compositional perfection. each one like a masterpiece painting. it also gives grander sense of scale with everything. the composition is really muted with the cropping, what a shame. guess i have to see it in imax
This Video just perfectly shows what it means when a movie is made for Imax.
Wide-screen is a lie 😱😱😱
I can see why Denis was so adamant about a theatrical release (IMAX in particular). The footage is stunning, especially the flyover of Arrakeen.
Finally! A format that fits my 21" standard definition CRT from 1986 with only minimal letterboxing!
Just got back home from seeing Dune 2 for the third time but for the first time in digital. While the crop isn’t anywhere near as egregious as Dune 1 it is genuinely criminal that most of the population has only seen that version of the movie. Watching a movie in IMAX takes a great movie to the level it needs to be at to stick in your head. I’ve only ever seen Dune 1 at home and I never realized how much that movie got gutted. If we don’t get a physical release for the IMAX versions of this movie it would be a crime against humanity.
my goodness, I feel like I was robbed of the splendor of this movie.
it's night and day, there is no IMAX theater where I'm from so the whole time I watched in standard I was thinking to myself I wish the ratio was less wide to accommodate the beautiful circular and square images like the worm's mouth, and I physically felt there was height I was missing in the scenes with explosions, really hope someday I'll be able to see this version without having to get on a plane
Thanks to this video I just spent two whole hours educating myself about what IMAX truly is. It is safe to say that I have been an ignorant movie goer my whole life (and its sad to realize that the movie industry likes to keep it that way)
If someone wouldve told me the aspect ratio made a difference I probably wouldn't believe them.
Seeing the difference like this is actually insane. The immersion is unreal in the IMAX version
Funny how we have come full circle on this. Remember how all VHS releases of movies were all 'Pan and Scan versions? I bought a laserdisc player in 1990's and finally started watching movies in widescreen on a 23inch 4:3 tv. I loved finally getting to watch movies at home as they were originally composed. Now we are back to essentially the modern equivalent of pan and Scan 😞
A while back, I saw a movie which would have originally been 1.85:1 or 2.39:1 in the cinema, which got pan-and-scanned to 4:3 for the VHS release, which then got cropped to 16:9 for the DVD release, and was now being viewed on a 2:1 display...
9:35 Jesus, the human mind is so predisposed to looking at faces that I never realized there was a sand worm in that scene until you said. Was always just looking at Paul's eyes in that shot.
i've see this movie 5 or 6 times already and ten minutes of this video are still making me choke up because the size, scale, and details are so beautiful, making the most of out of cinema's ability as a storytelling medium.
6:22 "The sense of vulnerability" Oh my God, YES, you nailed it! Exactly why you feel so close to the characters and so immersed in the scene! Your analysis perfectly nails it why IMAX Format in a lot of cases is just so much better!
Thanks for that. A lot of it was the feeling the IMAX frame gave. I had to prevent myself from saying "a sense of" a lot haha! In fact I remember having to re-record some of this because I said it too much.
@@secretsofdune haha, i can imagine, but it describes it best, so yeah. keep up the good work!
Okay, Imax Lazer format is like the tv I used to watch back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, except in higher quality. Wider screen in the movies and tv was meant to give us a wider, enveloping feel, and now we're going right back to the old feel, except higher quality. That's somehow hilarious.
It’s like half of Denis Villeneuve’s poetry has been taken out of his poem.
I had the pleasure of seeing Dune Part Two in IMAX two times. It is VERY MUCH worth the approximate $4 extra for IMAX compared to a normal screening.
the soundtrack on IMAX is... WONDERFUL.
10€ extra where i live, but still worth it . i watched 4 times and it was incredible
Imagine working for months on several VFX shots where A LOT of the details you made are going to be missed by 99% of viewers because they were at the top / bottom of the full IMAX version...
Thought about that constantly when making this.
Height is necessary to show how inconsequential all of our characters are, which is a crucial concept in Dune. I can't believe the studio hasn't released the IMAX edit for home viewing.
I was in the business of film exhibition for 25 (Retired in 2011). It is critical to remember where the viewer is supposed to be seated when comparing the two formats.
Widescreen SCOPE (2.35aspect) was introduced in 1957 to fight the onslaught of (Square-small) television and go where no TV could go- widescreen. The widescreen took advantage of the wide nature of most theaters at the time, giving the viewer a right and left peripheral input similar to what we really see as humans. (Until the arrival of the dreaded Multiplex- which did nothing but shrink the very screens that people were paying for. A ten-plex might have two or three big houses 400 seat with the rest being 100-200 seaters.) The down-side was that the system used 35mm film in optical compression, which was optically uncompressed at the theater to produce the widescreen image. The image was now three times wider than normal, but still using the same 35mm grain set in the film- three times grainier. This is why some “Roadshow” movies would be released in 70mm, thereby doubling the grain. The main focus here is that a widescreen movie, in the theater, would have a slowly rising set of seat-rows that kept the viewer in line with the slight right and left peripheral vision of the widescreen movie- giving the viewer a sense of place. They were not directed to look right or left, it was just there.
IMAX was originally developed as a super wide-angle immersive experience for documentaries. The viewer was placed very close the giant screen (60 x 90) screen, at least two or three times closer than in a regular theater, by virtue of quickly rising seats. The IMAX image was shot on horizontally running 70mm with a frame size of 15 sprocket hole- thus the classic 70/15 comment on IMAX, making the grain four times sharper than 35mm. It was also brighter. The addition of separate 12 channel sound system, powered by some powerful amplifiers, made going to an IMAX documentary something very unique. At some point, in the late 1990’s, it was decided to show a movie on the IMAX system, a great way to use that wasted theater space on documentaries at the museum! So museums started to show IMAX “Movies.” These were almost always regular 70mm prints that were project on the big square screen- IN LETTERBOX. Then it was decided to add about ten minutes of real IMAX footage to the movie, jolting the viewer in and out of that realm as the director saw fit. These were “Special showings.”
Then, finally, came the true IMAX Movie of today. A huge change, at little cost, because the movie was not on film! So, now the viewer was forced to watch any type of film on the big giant 60 x 100 foot square screen in super-detailed grain and unbelievable sound. But we have to remember that the outer 20% of any IMAX film is “JUNK” used to fool the mind into believing that it is immersed in the experience- you are never supposed to “LOOK AT IT.” The film is still super-wide angle- you are not supposed to look at that outer mess of the image- it is there as filler.
I saw DUNE in IMAX first, but I really felt like I saw it for the first time in a nice WIDESCREEN theater in SCOPE. That is where the director wants you to experience the action- all of the “JUNK” is removed, as it should be. IMAX provides grate grain and super sound, but it is not a good place to see a drama.
Thanks!
This is all interesting. However, none of it changes that the Dune IMAX footage in this video just plain looks better than the widescreen footage. Even on my tiny tablet screen. Whether the IMAX footage has “junk” or not doesn’t matter if the junk makes it look better. (And like pointed out in the video, there are bits in the IMAX version that have actual relevant info in the frame cut out for the widescreen version. I never noticed the worm rising behind Paul in his vision in widescreen. Those ships at the end of the vid are either cut off at the edge of the frame or removed entirely. That doesn’t feel like junk to me.)
I do not understand this.
My understanding is that Villenueve shot virtually all of Dune Part 2 in IMAX, and therefore it is only in IMAX that you see his full vision. So how can you say that widescreen is the way to do when that is not how he shot it nor how he visualized it nor how he wanted it to be seen?
Thank you for sharing this! I was supremely disappointed when I saw that the image had been cropped.
Let’s hope this get’s a Snyder-esque re-release with the entire length and the full aspect ratio.
I-max every time as I'm loving the way the classic dune which so much modern science fiction is based is revealed in the full size image. Merry dune Christmas!
My older brother, our mother and I say it in IMAX the first day of release. It was incredibly immersive.
wow i did not know the difference was so huge, thanks for letting me know the best way though example.
It was breathtakingly beautiful in IMAX. Had to see it twice!
My seats shook in IMAX when Leto and his family arrived in the Arakeen residency the first time crossing the desert, the music was unreal
Some people may call it IMAX; my 10-year-old sibling called it 'Oh, it's fullscreen now!
In cinema, both wider and taller formats have their pros and cons, and filmmakers have to pick the format that would serve the story better. I love wider formats because it reminds me of epic cinemascope movies, where vast landscapes would benefit from that wide view, but many of the most epic films had a taller format. The problem with Dune is that it was filmed in the IMAX square-ish format. Every shot is framed and composed with that format in mind, and when they had to release the standard version, they had to crop a big part of the image, ruining the framing and composition in many shots. Maybe they should have chosen a taller frame for the standard version, something like a 16:9 crop, but they didn't, and that's a pity.
I'm sure when Villeneuve insisted so much when he recommended "the IMAX experience", a big part of that was related to this very problem with the excesive cropping. That said, when i watched the movie in the cinema and later in the streaming version, i didn't have the feeling that i was missing something, i just loved everything about it. I can see now, thanks to this video, that many shots look so much better in its original imax format
Craving more Dune contents and updates for part 2 releases. Have to wait a whole year 😭😭😭
I love that we've pretty much gone full circle, back to (almost)4:3, for a full image. Next we'll have 16k "IMAX" TV's. I would be happy with black bars on the sides of my 85" 4k to see everything Villeneuve filmed.
I saw this movie in IMAX as my first viewing, and it was spectacular. I loved it.
But then, every subsequent attempt to rewatch it, I haven't made it halfway through, because I genuinely don't find it as visually exhilarating to experience as I remember it being in IMAX. Like, I see these shots that I have vivid memories of sitting in that theatre and going "wooooooaaah" as the frame would expand to the ceiling, and I would literally need to tilt my head up just to see the top of the frame. But seeing those same shots in 2.39:1, not only is that magic not there anymore, but I can't help but realise how much lesser of a movie this is without that expanded frame.
Not to say the story isn't great or anything. It's still a compelling movie. But this was such a visceral experience in the theatre for me, that I can't help but yearn to experience that version of the movie again... and I just can't anymore. And that kills me. I saw this movie, and I LOVED it. And for some strange reason, they just aren't selling that same movie on bluray. Not even an in-between 16x9 version or something. I don't get it. With movies like this I ESPECIALLY don't get it. This movie was so clearly made to be seen in that IMAX format, but that movie is lost media now, I guess???
This video is the first time I'm actually seeing some of these open matte shots since my original IMAX viewing, and I'm literally getting those same "wooooaaah" feelings again, even though I'm looking at it on a 14" laptop. It's like I'm unlocking a core memory. Just seeing these shots how I remember them looking, and not some cropped to hell version that just doesn't work, is enough to take me back to that original viewing experience.
I know this comment is way too long and rant-y. But I feel so strongly about this. Particularly in regard to this movie, I feel so strongly about this.
I was lucky enough to see Dune at the BFI IMAX in London, was a truly incredible experience, what struck me most compared to the home release was the sound, the scene where they bring down the silence laser field, on blu ray it's subtitled, but in IMAX it's so loud you hear through the vail. The effect was incredible in the cinema and sadly lacking in the home release mix.
I remember that too! We could still hear them through the field.
Wow. That’s insane. This is supposed to be one of the most celebrated releases ever and BOTH sound and ratio were cut for home release, makes no sense.
I saw it in both the BFI IMAX and the Cineworld Imax in Leicester Square. The sound and image were far better in Cineworld. I would recommend seeing the next one there if you have the option. But both of those only show 1.9:1 aspect ratio. I found out too late that the only place in UK to see it in 1.43:1 aspect ration is at the Printworks Imax in Manchester.
I was fortunate to catch it in full 1.43:1 true Imax at the Science Museum in London. Was absolutely incredible! Some of those shots were so bright I felt like I was staring directly into the sun. I hope that they show it again as a double-feature when part 2 comes out.
Wait they released it in full 1.43:1 in the UK? I thought WB only released it in 1.90:1 over here.
Looking forward to Part Two, going to watch a Double-Feature for sure!
I just watched the reissue of Dune in IMAX tonight, and it's exactly how it should be viewed. The size and scope of the film on that screen is legitimately beyond words. I cannot wait to see Part Two in IMAX as well!✨️
The way you say "IMAX with lay-zaaah" sends me. :)
Great work thank you 🙏🏽 Watching Dune in IMAX was the best cinematic experience of my life
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm eternally grateful to have seen this movie in IMAX first. Now I NEED this at home! 🤣
Absolutely phenomenal work with the side by side comparisons! KUDOS³!!! ❤🔥
Thank you I really appreciate it!
wow, what you have done here is incredible. i live nowhere near an imax and only saw Part 1 on my laptop, before going to a small cinema to watch part 2. Seeing these comparisons, 'Standard' ratio feels like only half the image!
Honestly, the difference between seeing it in the theater is not the aspect ratio, it's the audio. After recently seeing Dune 2 in IMAX, I said to my dad, we will never experience this movie this way again.
Sadly there are no IMAX theaters in Spain, so I couldn't see it in IMAX.
I wish they would release a 4K Blu-ray in IMAX aspect ratio, and an extended edition with most of the deleted scenes that we are missing from the standard theatrical version. Hopefully before Dune Part 2 hits theaters.
I hope so too.
What a shame that they didn't released Imax blu ray. Hope for part 2, maybe a box with both movies
thank you for this youtube. i will add this blu-ray to my collection
Watching DUNE on Imax was almost a spiritual experience. You felt elated walking out of the cinema ..especially watching a movie where you could actually see what's going on screen and not obscured by dark CGI lighting
It's probably the company restricting the release. I imagine they will release some sort of IMAX enhanced version later on which I've heard they have done before. They barely let Marvel release their IMAX versions on Disney+
That's definitely a valid criticism. There are several videos that were released by Villeneuve/WB/Legendary/IMAX which have said that this is the definitive way to watch the film, but they never released the full aspect ratio. I hope they will eventually.
Great video! I saw Dune three times in the theater. The first was on a 1.43:1 IMAX laser presentation, the second was a Dolby cinema viewing, and the last was on a standard screen. While the larger IMAX screen and taller ratio was a very immersive experience, the sharpness and overall contrast on the Dolby screen (not to mention the audio!) felt superior. I also feel like the 4:3 ratio doesn't 'feel' as cinematic to me as a film presented in a wide aspect ratio, like 2.76:1. To me, the extra visual story telling that happens with a wider aspect ratio is more important than having extra to look at top and bottom. That all comes down to preference. Just as long as we stick to 24 fps (looking at you Peter Jackson), I won't complain too much.
I don't go to theaters much any more, but after watching your side by side comparisons of Standard and IMAX....I'm sold !
Now I believe I'll go to see IMAX for sure.
"Avatar 2" is coming soon; I'll go !
I got to see Dune in a 1.90 IMAX screen. WB should realize that there are very few 1.43 Imax screens in the world as most of them show movies in 1.90 or 1.85 instead of the full frame 1.43. Not everyone is able to see it and we deserve to get to see it at home at the very least. Batman v Superman last year released a remaster with all the IMAX 1.43 scenes and it looked Gorgeous! Hopefully they do the same with Dune soon and then Dune part 2 as well
It’s clear to see that the images/scenes have been specifically composed for the full IMAX ratio. I found that when it switched to the letterbox format there was a distinctly claustrophobic feeling, and when we were allowed to see the full image again it felt like being able to breathe once more. I desperately want to see the full aspect ratio version now. It’s like back when TVs were 4:3 and and they finally began to broadcast films in full widescreen after only ever having shown a “scan & pan” version (to fill our TV screens) with the edges of the image lopped off (often by the broadcasting company employees, who either didn’t care or were untrained - the worst example I recall being an espionage film where two enemy agents finally meet each other in a library and have a very tense confrontation from either side of a stand of bookshelves in an unbroken two-shot, and all that was broadcast on the tv was the bookshelves, with neither agent visible).
It probably won’t be long before we all have squarer TVs again (4:3? 1.36:1?? Whatever…) as more and more films, having grown wider, are now growing taller.
I was very impressed with the full IMAX you showed and now can’t help but feel I’ve only seen a fraction of the film. With many filmmakers it wouldn’t matter as much, but with someone like Villeneuve (and his DoP I assume), a true visualist (is that even a word??), the difference is night and day.
Yes but they framed and shot it for this ratio, it’s a creative choice.
I LOVE widescreen, and many movies were conceived, framed and shot for wider ratios (think Lawrence Of Arabia), the only discussion here that makes sense is people should want to see the movie the way it was framed and shot - but that is entirely a creative choice on the part of the people at the top of its creation, directors, DP …etc.
I was gutted to find out that my collection of (if I remember correctly) Fifth Element (or maybe it was Waterworld) disks (DVD, WideScreen DVD, Blue Ray) each had cropped elements in their respective ratios. The Pan&Scan original full frame shots obviously lacked wide elements, and the WideScreen was missing a bit off the top and bottom. Thats what’s wrong.
If they shot this movie for Lawrence of Arabia type wide screen, then they’d have framed their shots accordingly, not cutting ANYTHING off the top and bottom, but filling the sides with expansive elements from the scenes. And in the current day and age, that would have fit all our TV’s and wide screen monitors beautifully. But they CHOSE not to shoot it like that. They aren’t GIVING you more in IMAX, they simply chose to shoot for that ratio - at the expense of anyone who watches it in “regular” (really, “WideScreen” is now going to be called “Regular”, what is this marketing twist BS?!)
I just wish they’d make the full image available for home viewing (streaming or blu-ray) since that’s how most of us will watch the film after we’ve seen it in the cinema - and for the rest of our lives. Surely that would be what any filmmaker would want as well, for their full film to be appreciated. Marvel did it to some extent on Disney+ and even that was effective.
Wow!! The worm scenes especially, look so much more EPIC!!
Well 👍👍👍
Imagine viewing the Mona Lisa in standard ratio, from the neck down
I don’t know how you got these imax frames but i need this in my life
It is very interesting to see this IMAX footage and how IMAX as a whole is getting more and more common. In the past you had maybe one or two scenes in IMAX, but today it's somehow possible to have full films in IMAX, like NOPE, DC Justice League, hecc even some Anime films as I just researched.
I think this trend could change the meaning of what a video's aspect ratio really means. Like not too long ago, it was all about ultrawide, then the "Netflix" AR of 2:1 was the trend. And now we are going taller with IMAX and OM - Open Matte versions of films that started to pop up recently. So the "cinematic look" which was associated with the ultrawide "black bars" is currently getting deconstructed.
I think this whole shift changed my own definition of a cinematic image. What a time to be alive!
It may even change how TV's and projectors are sold in future.
There is nothing really new in resolution of theatrical presentation. It is still just about all 2.34/2.4:1 and 1.85 with real IMAX being 1.43:1 (their 1.9:1 for LieMAX is somewhat newer).
The only difference about IMAX is now they have IMAX branded digital movie cameras so they can do a whole movie with them now. That was really impossible to do before with the IMAX film cameras given their size, film expense, and how insanely loud they are. It is why we only used to get specific scenes in a movie shot with them.
It's a shame a lot of movies go for 2.35:1 ratios instead of the 1.43/1.9:1 ratio. 2.35 looks cinematic but 1.43/1.9 feels like you're there in person, truly immersive.
I think productions should default to either 16:9 (1,77:1) as this is the format most screens people actually use; or 17:9 as this is what most vinema projectors do normaly. Doing 17:9 in cinema and cropping the sides to 16:9 for home cinemas is also a possible way. Selling this as an extra like disney does with "IMAX Enhanced" is just greedy.
There's a reason imo why imax is imax itself only on theaters. It gives you a massive and memorable experience the same you experience concerts.
Just watched Dune re-run in Imax Laser...spectacular. plus sneak peek to Dune part 2😍
I generally prefer the framing of letterbox/widescreen but in the end it's about what originally intented format. It the film was designed for IMAX, then I want that framing. It it was designed for letterbox, then I want that.
It is impressive to see a complete comparison! Thanks for this. Should we expect a going back to 4:3 screens? That would be extremely funny. The 16:9 ratio was an excellent idea to extend the size, but it turned out to be a cropped version of the previous ratio, which doesn't make much sense. Is it due to the CMOS sensor that is with a squarish ratio? How is it that cinematographers shooting for IMAX don't create an extended version of the IMAX for the 1:1.90?
I unfortunately was not able see Dune part one in IMAX, but this week, I will see Dune part two in IMAX. I'm really looking forward to it. I wish Dune part one would get another run in IMAX in more theatres. I would have gone to see it before seeing part two. I also wish they would release an extended version with all of the scenes that we know exist.
This was the first time I went to the cinema by myself, it was an IMAX in Bangkok, I was working there at the time. This movie in IMAX took me to a different universe for the evening.
Did you give out cool ticket stubs? We got paper thin receipts here where the writing fades away after a week. I wanted to keep a ticket stub as a memento haha.
IMAX with lasaae
Deeply appreciate you putting this together 🖖
Thank you! Appreciate the kind words
They way you used a synth version of Herald of the Change track in this video was phenomenal. I got goosebumps.
I’ll never understand this decision, nor releasing an extended cut with the deleted content. I won’t even watch the non extended version of LotR because I enjoy the additional scenes and world building.
Once I went LOTR extended cut, I've honestly never been back. The extended edition also has some of the best documentary work on a franchise, ever.
Wow! How did you get hold of the footage? One of my favourite films, it ages so well with more viewings, it actually enhanced the enjoyment of the original book for me too.
Wonderful comparison, thank you for all your work you put into this. IMAX helps feel the scale of many scenes and shows how much work was put into shaping the world of Dune for the big screen, no doubt about it, but at the same time, I'm so used to the "cinematic" nature of the standard 2.39:1 aspect ratio I've learned to appreciate the skillful framing of every shot. Always good to have options, however!
I also want to see the extended version of DUNE Part 1 which includes scenes cut that would expand the narrative (I know the director hates extended cuts, but there is good case for an extended version)
I've never realised the difference between imax and standard cuts thank you for this. I already regretted not seeing dune in iMax but now I am completely wounded
You're welcome and also I'm sorry haha. I think attitudes towards what is "cinematic" are slowly shifting back to more full open matte aspect ratios.
It has made me realise that every film I have ever watched that is also filmed in IMAX I have basically missed a huge part of which really annoys me because I am a huge film addict and loved getting to the bottom of each and every film I'm into in every way things like facts and trivia and camera work and director's commentary and now this I found that I've basically not watch parts of a lot of films. This won't do! Thank you again for this and for replying it's nice to be in touch I love your work
Beautiful work! But where do you get the IMAX film from? I've been searching everywhere.
It should be a federal crime to crop these films. lol.
I really am blessed to have an IMAX theater 30 minutes (by car) away from where I live. For the last few years I've been only going to see movies in IMAX because regular screens just aren't enough anymore, especially for these mega blockbuster movies. I hope they will release DUNE (1st part) once more in IMAX when DUNE 2 will air so that we can see both movies in IMAX back to back.
how tf did u get this footage ? this is how i watched it my second viewing in nyc . would pay to watch it like this again