net split I can't say that I agree. The MiG-23 had some pretty big issues, only a few of which were solved during its service life, and it wasn't powerful enough for its cost.
Su-25 and MiG-23/MiG-27 serve two very different roles. The Su-25 is far inferior, not to say totally unsuited for low-altitude high-speed interdiction and nuclear attack. The MiG-25 was totally built for high-speed interceptions of high-altitude planes, worse suited to air superiority.
@Cimer Quintero The Mig-23 was a ground-attack aircraft. Fly-in bomb and then fly-out. The SU-25 is close air support for ground forces. Hover about and lend supporting fire where directed. Different functions.
@Danzo Shimura And the Mig 21ibs was better dogfighter. And the SU 17/22 was a better ground attack aircraft. The problem with the Mig 23/27 was that the cost of keeping them was not equal to their performace vs other airplanes... When the Warsaw Pact ended many former Warsaw pact airforces kept their Mig 21s, 29s, Su 22s and Su 25s, but retired their Migs 23/27s.. India has now retired their 23 and its retiring their 27s, yet the Mig 21 and the Jaguar still in service, it makes you think.
The 27 was a very advanced attack platform for its time, it launched infrared, laser and TV-guided smart bombs and rockets, which required complex mission programming skills from the ground and weapon-crew for which they were often inadequately trained. This was a problem that plagued the 27's operational effectiveness and the engineers were often on site to do the mission programming themselves.
@@the_real_bin_chicken Yes it was, but it was designed more to fit for ground attack. Like afterburner feature was removed to improve low level and low speed handling, the nose was redesigned to allow better visibility downward on ground (hence nickname "balcony" because so great view down), laser designator was added to the nose, and many other changes. It almost is completely new airplane why new designation MiG-27.
The most noticeable difference between the MiG-23BN and MiG-27: For MiG-23BN air intake installed with splitter plate fuselage boundary-layer adjustable. For MiG-27 air intake installed with splitter plate fuselage boundary-layer fixed not adjustable.
23 лёгок в обслуживании и прост как калькулятор! В отличие от F 4 и её модификации. И сдаётся мне что у вас этих МиГов после Варшавского договора, Как у КоЗлА махорки)+
MiG23 & MiG27 fighters has its own pluses & minuses but i think the biggest mistakes committed by Soviet Aeronautical engineers designers of MiGs design bureau cooperation has been that they designed both MiG23 & MiG27 as single engine aircraft thereby which created a problem which was not simple as power to weight ratio which although was not the case in MiG23 n MiG27 but still as a swing wing fighters design both these fighters needed the power of 2engines to overcome the problem emerged in the form of stress faced by both these airframes & even klimov Engines design R29 series which had been very powerful engine in itself but being a single engine platforms the R29 itself has went through stress suffered due to single engine configuration design of both of these potent fighters.And that's why there had been others swing wing western design like American F14Tomcat & British Eurofighter Tornados which were twin engines design haven't went through the same problems which have been encountered by MiG23 n MiG27 in single engine configuration. otherwise Both of these fighters planes even proved to be more superb & reliable advanced design if that's basic mistake hadn't been committed by Soviet MiG design bureau.
Being a singled engined was not a problem for the mig 23, the engine is huge, the plane was just built for speed and had no wing area, and was too long and heavy to be agile in dogfights.
This is the MiG-23BN. It is a redesign of the MiG-23MF fighter optimized for ground attack. The MiG-27 was a completely new design based on the BN but much more sophisticated.
@@jaeger-qw9vb others, the engine, 23 and 30mm aircraft cannon, for the mig-23 bn primitive bomber equipment, unlike the mig-27 where high-precision equipment is located
External similarity creates confusion, but the MiG-23BN and MiG-27 are different, for example, the MiG-27 has a six-barrel autocannon with a 30mm caliber, and the MiG-23BN has a double-barrel autocannon with a 23mm caliber. There are other differences too.
Viktor Belenko -The Pilot who Stole Soviet Mig 25 But Its better to read the Book: "The Final Escape of Lt.Viktor Belenko" by John Barron One of the Best Authors during the 80s.Looking back I do believe Lt Viktor Belenko was one of the Soviets ideal MIG 25 pilots !!!! Note: The Mig 25 turned out to have old tv tubes in the engine. Dave Minnesota
No, is not! MiG-27 are more advanced ground attack aircraft without afterburner. These here are MiG-23BN (with afterburner), the predecessor of the 27.
ragnet ragnet В википедии набери F 5 открой военное применение ,война во Вьетнаме и там про учебные бои с миг 21 и миг 23 прочитай , летчика героя СССР Кандаурова.Лучшие лётчики менялись самолетами то на миге 21 ,23 то на F 5,с его слов на третьем заходе F5 садился МиГу на хвост.
@@СырымБердимжаев Это правильно Варёным ты заменил 🤭 , все новшества взяли с И 16 и радар и ракеты, сказали читай в Вики про Миг 21- 23, они и героически и на ближнем востоке воевали против Израиля у арабов , но об этом в другой раз , а то ты все сразу не поймёшь .
ГДР была самым крутым (во всех смыслах) сегментом нашего славного социалистического прошлого..
Served MIG 23 BN for solid 15 years from Routine checks to overhauling. Feel proud upon watching MIG 23.
Russian People good luck MiG-29 Fulcrum Ambush American F-16 fighting falcon...
Was the Mig23 BN capable of carriing aur to air missiles?
@@Quantentheorie_I dont think so, the aircraft purpose is for Ground Attack
It could, R-60s at least - Infrared Homing Missiles for Short Range Air to Air.@@Quantentheorie_
if you are able to answer, was it able to carry countermeasures and air to air missiles?
Красивый советский боевой самолёт на службе в ВВС ГДР👍💯‼️
Я возвращаюсь к миг23 эта машина заслуживает особого внимания .
Iam from Germany and the east german airforce is my favorite.
Weil sie die ganzen Sowjetischen Flugzeuge und allgemeine Sowjetische Ausrüstung hatten?
@@oleg-bd3xsпотому что она летала без неполадок , а не стояла как сейчас у вас по 8 месяцев без запчастей
Поверь, Германии есть чем гордиться
we need more mig-23 vintage videos comrade!!!
Спасибо отцы.
🇷🇺❤️
Mig-23 is such an underrated aircraft...
net split I can't say that I agree. The MiG-23 had some pretty big issues, only a few of which were solved during its service life, and it wasn't powerful enough for its cost.
Su-25 and MiG-23/MiG-27 serve two very different roles. The Su-25 is far inferior, not to say totally unsuited for low-altitude high-speed interdiction and nuclear attack. The MiG-25 was totally built for high-speed interceptions of high-altitude planes, worse suited to air superiority.
MiG-27 based on MiG-23 was better than the Su-25 in ground attack.
@Cimer Quintero The Mig-23 was a ground-attack aircraft. Fly-in bomb and then fly-out. The SU-25 is close air support for ground forces. Hover about and lend supporting fire where directed. Different functions.
@Danzo Shimura And the Mig 21ibs was better dogfighter. And the SU 17/22 was a better ground attack aircraft. The problem with the Mig 23/27 was that the cost of keeping them was not equal to their performace vs other airplanes... When the Warsaw Pact ended many former Warsaw pact airforces kept their Mig 21s, 29s, Su 22s and Su 25s, but retired their Migs 23/27s.. India has now retired their 23 and its retiring their 27s, yet the Mig 21 and the Jaguar still in service, it makes you think.
Great design!
Awesome Luftstreikrafte !
Thank you voevoda43 ! What if the GDR still existed today ? Can you imagine that possibility ?
История коварная старуха..
ГДР не канул в лето, а проявит ещё себя в будущем.
Слава Luftstreitkräfte! NVA! DDR!
МиГ-23BN/BM - экспортная версия истребителя-бомбардировщика МиГ-23. Этот самолёт очень похож на штурмовик МиГ-27 "Флоггер-D"
Russia crazy Fighter pilot haha😂
МиГ-23БМ называется МиГ-27
Ето и есть миг 27 штурмавик
Истребитель-бомбардировщик
Belle vidéo ! Bonne musique ! Et un bel avion aux lignes gracieuses !
У тебя всегда интересные видео,спасибо!👍
the music never missed wow
Really extraordinary shot od BN's !!! 🤌👍
The 27 was a very advanced attack platform for its time, it launched infrared, laser and TV-guided smart bombs and rockets, which required complex mission programming skills from the ground and weapon-crew for which they were often inadequately trained. This was a problem that plagued the 27's operational effectiveness and the engineers were often on site to do the mission programming themselves.
BONS tempos do domínio da aviação Russa👏👏👏
Caça de Origem soviética, mas... Esses daí serviam à Alemanha Oriental. 👍🏽
Russia number 1 in the world!!!🇷🇺😄👍
Советской авиации
Amazing!❤
СЛАВА ВВС ГДР!
BBC poccnr!!!🇷🇺👍
В чем их слава то?
СЛАВА CCCP, friend
Unsere schöne NVA !!!
💪✊ Слава NVA!!!
1:03 what's this weapon that is used here??
Watching this after the War Thunder dev stream. (2.9.22)
Uma das obras primas da tecnologia aeronáutica da Rússia.
Была страна были люди.
One there is in Koblenz Museum
There are at least 3 in the Luftfahrtmuseum Hermeskeil
I would love to know what that young pilot is upto these day's
Awesome vid👍
Да были времена
Best Aircraft 💪🏻💪🏻
I like MIG35 Fulcrum F
Das is gud!! )))
I Like the song
War das nicht die Mig 27, die Mig 23 Version für Bodenziele?
Die Mig 27 mit Grjasew-Schipunow GSch-6-30 Gatling-typ Maschinenkanone und zusätzliche Panzerung für das Cockpit.
"Но это же МИГ-27!" - "Ах, оставьте эти расовые предрассудки!" 😂
Это КАБ-500 На 1.03?
Да первая в мире корректируемая авиабомба
The flat nosed ones are mig-27, a evolution of mig-23 optimized for ground attack role. The nose is flat as the radar was eliminated.
No these are MiG-23BN, the first Fighter Bomber Variant ,the letter B stands for Bomber.Later MiG-27 has different Air intakes ,Gun and Weapon pylons
@@reenactor1066 the 27 was based of the 23BN was it not?
@@the_real_bin_chicken Yes it was, but it was designed more to fit for ground attack. Like afterburner feature was removed to improve low level and low speed handling, the nose was redesigned to allow better visibility downward on ground (hence nickname "balcony" because so great view down), laser designator was added to the nose, and many other changes. It almost is completely new airplane why new designation MiG-27.
раньше бн, а потом совершенно новый миг-27. его фрг просило вывести с гдр в первую очередь
It's a MIG - 27 ground attack jet
The most noticeable difference between the MiG-23BN and MiG-27:
For MiG-23BN air intake installed with splitter plate fuselage boundary-layer adjustable.
For MiG-27 air intake installed with splitter plate fuselage boundary-layer fixed not adjustable.
@@yolkhere ну так назовите видео MiG-27. И не пудрите людям мозги! Нечего выдавать мягкое за теплое.
@@matt-o-glassmatt7023
Спокойствие!
Вот вам МиГ-27: ua-cam.com/video/I7-bS1aEWwM/v-deo.html
23 лёгок в обслуживании и прост как калькулятор! В отличие от F 4 и её модификации. И сдаётся мне что у вас этих МиГов после Варшавского договора, Как у КоЗлА махорки)+
Игорь Цетурин а разве вообще корректно их сравивать?вроде как они разные.
На БРС (базах хранения самолётов )с регулярной расконсервации и объектами порядка 700 штук+ мобрезерв лётчиков!
Das kann nur der Benny sein :-! Die Aufnahmen in Cockpit wurden am Boden gedreht.Benny war der Coolste !
Commander Cody 2.0 wer war denn Benny?gibt es eine Lebensgeschichte
...ja, Benny gehörte zu den eher selten gewordenen deutschen Fliegerassen die die LSK hatten.
Commander Cody 2.0 Aha schade das es zu wenig Videos aus der Zeit gibt naja und die Abwicklung war ja auch eine Frechheit NVA
Commander Cody 2.0 wie lange war er denn aktiv
Siehe Eintrag.
What is the name of the music track!?
Glenn Morrison - Satellite
MiG23 & MiG27 fighters has its own pluses & minuses but i think the biggest mistakes committed by Soviet Aeronautical engineers designers of MiGs design bureau cooperation has been that they designed both MiG23 & MiG27 as single engine aircraft thereby which created a problem which was not simple as power to weight ratio which although was not the case in MiG23 n MiG27 but still as a swing wing fighters design both these fighters needed the power of 2engines to overcome the problem emerged in the form of stress faced by both these airframes & even klimov Engines design R29 series which had been very powerful engine in itself but being a single engine platforms the R29 itself has went through stress suffered due to single engine configuration design of both of these potent fighters.And that's why there had been others swing wing western design like American F14Tomcat & British Eurofighter Tornados which were twin engines design haven't went through the same problems which have been encountered by MiG23 n MiG27 in single engine configuration. otherwise Both of these fighters planes even proved to be more superb & reliable advanced design if that's basic mistake hadn't been committed by Soviet MiG design bureau.
Being a singled engined was not a problem for the mig 23, the engine is huge, the plane was just built for speed and had no wing area, and was too long and heavy to be agile in dogfights.
@@polentusmax6100then why did the MiG 23 routinely defeat the MiG29 in dogfights in the Soviet counterpart to the American Top Gun pilot school?
According to American test pilots who flew and tested the 23 in America, its faster than the F-22.
@@NorceCodine All planes from that time are faster. Doesn't matter these days.
Это миг 23
МиГ 27 Бахадур. Что в переводе с индийского обозначает Храбрец. Ещё летают в Индии....
Mig-23 with Mig-27 nose is kinsa funny looking.
Rather it is the MIG-27
This is the MiG-23BN. It is a redesign of the MiG-23MF fighter optimized for ground attack.
The MiG-27 was a completely new design based on the BN but much more sophisticated.
Its Mig 23bn
Немцы лучшие союзники, которые у нас были.
it is MiG 23bn but not MiG 27
Realy? What is the different?
@@jaeger-qw9vb others, the engine, 23 and 30mm aircraft cannon, for the mig-23 bn primitive bomber equipment, unlike the mig-27 where high-precision equipment is located
That isn’t a MiG 23 BN, it’s a Mig 27…..
External similarity creates confusion, but the MiG-23BN and MiG-27 are different, for example, the MiG-27 has a six-barrel autocannon with a 30mm caliber, and the MiG-23BN has a double-barrel autocannon with a 23mm caliber. There are other differences too.
It's Mig-27 not 23. Mig-23 is the old version.
MiG-23BN in production 1973-1985
MiG-23BM (MiG-27) in production 1973-1977
@@yolkhere MIG-23ВN экспортный вариант и не путать его с МIG-27..
MiG-27... right?
No, the video shows a MiG-23BN
Это не миг 23 это миг 27
Даже ГШ-6-30 говорит: пффф..
ua-cam.com/video/YeaTC_rEZEY/v-deo.html
No no no
MIG-23BN
Жалко, столько однодвигательных истребителей теоретики под нож пустили...
Это только российские придурки пустили
@@KLblk88
А украинские придурки что пустили?! Ту-160 под нож, все какие были, пилять.
Viktor Belenko -The Pilot who Stole Soviet Mig 25 But Its better to read the Book: "The Final Escape of Lt.Viktor Belenko" by John Barron One of the Best Authors during the 80s.Looking back I do believe Lt Viktor Belenko was one of the Soviets ideal MIG 25 pilots !!!! Note: The Mig 25 turned out to have old tv tubes in the engine. Dave Minnesota
Mig 27 .. not 23
Maybe they didnt comply w/ the default?
тактические ударные бомбардировщики должны полностью заменить беспилотные дроны.
" Otto das süße Häschen " Kanalempfehlung .Otto geht in seinen Bunker ...dort werden weitere Hasengespräche geführt Aber nicht hier.
Mig-23 BN JBG-37 Drewitz
Nen Ossi der pro Ukraine ist?
That is MiG 27
No, is not! MiG-27 are more advanced ground attack aircraft without afterburner. These here are MiG-23BN (with afterburner), the predecessor of the 27.
It the mig23bn
They look like Mig 27's
The mig-27 was based off of mig-23 i believe
@@oleg-bd3xs Your right I meant that the 23 had a radar dome on the nose the 27 had a Russian version of a laser range finder instead
Hallo Verbündete! GSVG 1985 - 1987 Halberstadt
ما شاء الله love Russian fighter planes
Извините, машинально, это миг - 27 !
Точно
Gen. a.D. Bär ist die
Mig 23BN geflogen, nicht die 27!
Mig23bn
Mig27
It would be great as a propaganda video!
Very scary designed.
Mig 27 👍👍👍
Это же миг 27
Двуствольная авиационная пушка и регулируемые воздухозаборники говорят, что это МиГ-23БН.
major bär rip
Kannte ihn persönlich, habe ihn auch schon mal beim WF aus der zweiten Etage des Hauses von oben(!) vorbeihuschen sehen.
... beim MFG.
@@commandercody2.096 mfg-28 frd.fallschirmdienst
@@commandercody2.096 er liebte das fliegen auf wellenhöhe in der su-22 m4. ein feiner mensch.
It looks the same as Mig 27
Mig 27
Das sind MIG 27.
Negativ, offizielle Bezeichnung MiG 23 BN. Unterscheidet sich noch leicht zur MiG 27.
Это Миг 27,а не Миг 23. Да, они внешне очень похожи,.
Это МиГ-27
23БМ, предшественник 27-го. Носы у них выглядят одинаково из-за станции наведения вместо рлс.
Mig23bn
Germany
это 27
Миг 27 ," утка" )
банбандировщик?
До истребителя не дотянул.
,,бабудеровщик ,,
Das ist mig 27 bomerflug
ha ha
их кстати нато и боялись
ragnet ragnet В википедии набери F 5 открой военное применение ,война во Вьетнаме и там про учебные бои с миг 21 и миг 23 прочитай , летчика героя СССР Кандаурова.Лучшие лётчики менялись самолетами то на миге 21 ,23 то на F 5,с его слов на третьем заходе F5 садился МиГу на хвост.
@@ВасилийБуланов-с2т за то МиГ 23 имел преимущество в дальнем ракетном бою за счёт БРЛС и ракет УРВВ средней дальности
@@СырымБердимжаев Это правильно Варёным ты заменил 🤭 , все новшества взяли с И 16 и радар и ракеты, сказали читай в Вики про Миг 21- 23, они и героически и на ближнем востоке воевали против Израиля у арабов , но об этом в другой раз , а то ты все сразу не поймёшь .
mig 27
Внешный похож на су 25
Great video destroyed by poor choice of music. Downloaded, replaced techno with something more suiting, turning a 4/10 into 8/10.
IMO techno os perfect for Cold War tech...
Большинство кадров МИГ-27...