This guy got one of the very last good ones. I can't believe this video is only 10 years old. The 10-10s are highly desirable now that most of the current production beam scales are cost-reduced imports.
Mr Williams, thanks for the great review. You've helped me decide to move forward and get one, just waiting for a sale. Excellent camera work by the way.
Agreeing with your logic for going low tech over high tech. Digital scale manufacturers do not seem to have very much conviction about the long term reliability of their products with the industry standard ONE year warranty. I'll go with a manual powder thrower and balance beam setup as well. If the industry ever decides to get serious about their products and increase the warranty to say 10 years or so, I'd consider buying a digital scale and powder charging system. Great video!
Thanks for the the video. I just received mine today and thanks to you I realized I was adjusting the micrometer poise incorrectly: zero at the wrong spot. Thanks a bunch.
You can calibrate it to read there but it should be in line with the bottom of the white plate. The black cut out is so you can clearly read your point of a grain clearly.
I appreciated this video. I have a couple of digital measures that don't agree and went to use my old balance beam and it really needs calibrating. Thanks a lot. I am hoping that my powder measure combo is the one that is right and not my stand alone digital.
I wanted this scale till I heard they started making them in Mexico. Lucky I found a barely used one made in jersey. I think they started outsourcing around 2000. The USA ones can be tuned but the outsourced ones can't.
A good choice to go the analogue route and good camera work. Please don't be deceived into thinking this scale was made in the USA just because the head office address is cast in the base. This scale is now made in Mexico or China. Your scale was made in Mexico, it says so on the bottom of the cardboard box. (1:08 secs)
thanks for the video. sorry to hear that they are like sooooo many products being now manufactured in Mexico. I was going to order one but I make it my personal policy to only buy American if at all possible. safe shootin to ya.
Jay, I noticed what looks like an Apress book on your shelf. Are you by chance a fellow programmer? If so, I find very interesting that you, like myself, shoot .308 and reload, too.
Jay Williams Haha. Sweet. Ive been programming in C# for about 4/5 years. I also see you are in Washington. I presently live in Wyoming but my wife and I hope to move there (Ilwaco/Vancouver) by Winter this year. We should keep in touch.
I'd actually like to live in a more remote place (like lots of Wyoming), but the jobs are in the cities, of course, unless you can get a good remote gig.
youre putting the 1/10th line in the wrong spot. it needs to be even with the bottom the metal plate that reads in single grains. youre placing it too high.
How would you then measure 5 grains? I tried to place the poise between 0 and 10 grains and it work. But how accurate is that, and is it safe to do...I was reloading a 9mm cartridge
Dalton Stephens Set the large poise on zero (all the way to the right) and then spin the micrometer poise upward five full revolutions (starting at zero) until its indicator line lines up with the line in the middle, halfway between the zero and the ten. Should be quite accurate. Note: you don't have to zero out the micrometer poise before starting. Just spin it in the appropriate direction to get its indicator line to line up with whichever weight you want, anywhere from zero to ten, in increments of tenths of a grain, if you need that precision. The scale's instruction manual goes through this and should give you even more info. You can find it online here: www.rcbs.com/downloads/instructions/Model_10-10_Scale_Instructions.pdf
Like you, I don't trust the cheap electronic scales and can't afford an expensive one. I bought a used (like new) RCBS 15 years ago for $80 in a pawn shop. They use to sell for around $200, now I see them on Amazon for $99.00, if it's the same scale it's a good deal.
I just took my RCBS 10-10 out of the box (original). It works perfectly, 6 - 60 grain Sierra bullets were measured by adding a bullet between weighings, 60 - 120... It was sold by RCBS out of California and manufactured in the USA by OAHUS circa 1980. Love it. I doubt the new ones at half the price are the same quality. Forty years of FED (central bank) destruction of the dollars purchasing power through inflation debasement has consequences. Debasement of the value of money by the FED put manufacturers in a pickle, they have three choices: 1) Raise prices and consumers will bark. 2) Lower quality and consumers might not notice. 3) Ship manufacturing off to less expensive locals. 4) Go broke and lay off their employees. As long as it's possible manufacturers will opt to reduce quality and or features, but they have lots of competition, it's tough. The Central Bank (FED) is monopoly, we have no choice but to be cheated by them through inflation, (money creation out of thin air). When my 10-10 scale was made I was earning about $12 an hour as a journeyman carpenter, today carpenters are earning $35 an hour in my area. As usual every producer gets screwed. But the bankers and their pals on Wall Street, government employees and those on welfare do just fine. It's a mess.
DO YOU MIND IF I ASK HOW MUCH THIS SCALE COST NEW BEFORE THEY WERE DISCONTINUED.I FOUND ONE NEW FOR $149.99 FREE SHIPPING.I JUST DO NOT WANT TO OVER PAY FOR THE SCALE.THANKS
My RCBS scale is well over 30 years old. It works perfectly every time And I don’t ever remember changing the battery.
This guy got one of the very last good ones. I can't believe this video is only 10 years old. The 10-10s are highly desirable now that most of the current production beam scales are cost-reduced imports.
Good review. Bought mine back in the early '80s, still using it.
Perfect, you answered all my questions about the 10 10 scale. Subbed.
Mr Williams, thanks for the great review. You've helped me decide to move forward and get one, just waiting for a sale. Excellent camera work by the way.
I'm glad the review was helpful and thanks for the compliment on the camera work. I've been using the schedule regularly and it works great.
Agreeing with your logic for going low tech over high tech. Digital scale manufacturers do not seem to have very much conviction about the long term reliability of their products with the industry standard ONE year warranty. I'll go with a manual powder thrower and balance beam setup as well. If the industry ever decides to get serious about their products and increase the warranty to say 10 years or so, I'd consider buying a digital scale and powder charging system.
Great video!
Excellent video!!
Glad I could be of some help!
Thanks for the the video. I just received mine today and thanks to you I realized I was adjusting the micrometer poise incorrectly: zero at the wrong spot. Thanks a bunch.
He puts it in the wrong spot mate
You can calibrate it to read there but it should be in line with the bottom of the white plate. The black cut out is so you can clearly read your point of a grain clearly.
Great catch. Thanks!
end.....super!
I appreciated this video. I have a couple of digital measures that don't agree and went to use my old balance beam and it really needs calibrating. Thanks a lot. I am hoping that my powder measure combo is the one that is right and not my stand alone digital.
A very concise and truthful video.......thanks for posting.
Thanks, Richard. I'm glad you found it useful.
I wanted this scale till I heard they started making them in Mexico. Lucky I found a barely used one made in jersey. I think they started outsourcing around 2000. The USA ones can be tuned but the outsourced ones can't.
A good choice to go the analogue route and good camera work. Please don't be deceived into thinking this scale was made in the USA just because the head office address is cast in the base. This scale is now made in Mexico or China. Your scale was made in Mexico, it says so on the bottom of the cardboard box. (1:08 secs)
Good Job, Thanks!
Excellent scale
I have the 10/10, it’s a great scale. Way more capacity than I need . I should’ve gotten the 505 or better yet, the Redding scale !
Best beam scale or hell best scale peroid I have ever used
RCBS/Vista Outdoors really need to hire you as PR.
thanks for the video.
sorry to hear that they are like sooooo many products being now manufactured in Mexico.
I was going to order one but I make it my personal policy to only buy American if at all possible.
safe shootin to ya.
Got mine Pre-owned, Only buy from America as well!
Jay, I noticed what looks like an Apress book on your shelf. Are you by chance a fellow programmer? If so, I find very interesting that you, like myself, shoot .308 and reload, too.
Yes. I am. I've been programming for almost two decades now, mostly .NET stuff. :)
Jay Williams Haha. Sweet. Ive been programming in C# for about 4/5 years. I also see you are in Washington. I presently live in Wyoming but my wife and I hope to move there (Ilwaco/Vancouver) by Winter this year. We should keep in touch.
I'd actually like to live in a more remote place (like lots of Wyoming), but the jobs are in the cities, of course, unless you can get a good remote gig.
Jay Williams Just sent you a pm with my email.
youre putting the 1/10th line in the wrong spot. it needs to be even with the bottom the metal plate that reads in single grains. youre placing it too high.
This is correct
Correct with that statement
How do you like the powder throw? Are you still using it?
Still using them. Like both of them.
How would you then measure 5 grains? I tried to place the poise between 0 and 10 grains and it work. But how accurate is that, and is it safe to do...I was reloading a 9mm cartridge
Dalton Stephens Set the large poise on zero (all the way to the right) and then spin the micrometer poise upward five full revolutions (starting at zero) until its indicator line lines up with the line in the middle, halfway between the zero and the ten. Should be quite accurate.
Note: you don't have to zero out the micrometer poise before starting. Just spin it in the appropriate direction to get its indicator line to line up with whichever weight you want, anywhere from zero to ten, in increments of tenths of a grain, if you need that precision.
The scale's instruction manual goes through this and should give you even more info. You can find it online here:
www.rcbs.com/downloads/instructions/Model_10-10_Scale_Instructions.pdf
naturally :) so easy...thanks. The scale has been handed down to me by three generations, thanks for the link.
Like you, I don't trust the cheap electronic scales and can't afford an expensive one. I bought a used (like new) RCBS 15 years ago for $80 in a pawn shop. They use to sell for around $200, now I see them on Amazon for $99.00, if it's the same scale it's a good deal.
I just took my RCBS 10-10 out of the box (original). It works perfectly, 6 - 60 grain Sierra bullets were measured by adding a bullet between weighings, 60 - 120... It was sold by RCBS out of California and manufactured in the USA by OAHUS circa 1980. Love it. I doubt the new ones at half the price are the same quality. Forty years of FED (central bank) destruction of the dollars purchasing power through inflation debasement has consequences. Debasement of the value of money by the FED put manufacturers in a pickle, they have three choices: 1) Raise prices and consumers will bark. 2) Lower quality and consumers might not notice. 3) Ship manufacturing off to less expensive locals. 4) Go broke and lay off their employees. As long as it's possible manufacturers will opt to reduce quality and or features, but they have lots of competition, it's tough. The Central Bank (FED) is monopoly, we have no choice but to be cheated by them through inflation, (money creation out of thin air). When my 10-10 scale was made I was earning about $12 an hour as a journeyman carpenter, today carpenters are earning $35 an hour in my area. As usual every producer gets screwed. But the bankers and their pals on Wall Street, government employees and those on welfare do just fine. It's a mess.
And remember folks, this is why you never shoot someone else’s handloads
Where did you find the powder dropper
May have been Sinclair. I actually don't remember. Sorry.
That’s one expensive power measure :-)
Seems to me, that had you reviewed/compared electronic vs beam scale, you might have been more informed!
How much are these worth?
DO YOU MIND IF I ASK HOW MUCH THIS SCALE COST NEW BEFORE THEY WERE DISCONTINUED.I FOUND ONE NEW FOR $149.99 FREE SHIPPING.I JUST DO NOT WANT TO OVER PAY FOR THE SCALE.THANKS
Midway does have it listed as discontinued, but the price is still there and says $159.99. I don't remember what I paid for this one, though.
Micro adjustment is not zeroed !!!!