PM non grata? Israel blasts ICC bid to charge both Netanyahu and Hamas • FRANCE 24 English
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- Is it about justice or politics? In the same breath, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court requested arrest warrants against both Israel's Binyamin Netanyahu and Hamas's Yahya Sinwar.
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War criminals telling the world how innocent they are.
😂😂yeah what a joke and Ben gever that dog should be on that list
Not a word on Hamas which was fighting with their own citizens as a shield. No mention of 5000 rockets and cowardly terror attack. This is a judgement of a devil
@@SomeDude-gn8kc The seething butterball of RAEG.
Exactly those Hamas bustards refuse to admit any accusations. What a shame!
Very rightly said.
What's the point of having a icc if you don't respect the court and decisions then let America decide everything
@@Moderator-01 we found one. Go back to your tunnel hat man
USA is under control israel . USA leader, goverment,military even tax money totaly obey to israel .
Because the ICC doesn’t have a high system to petition, but the ICC didn’t do a fair due process. When was the last time you seen a court mention its finding on live footage before submission of paper. These judges are a joke and thank God we (The US) can do something about it. Shame on the ICC. I am not Israeli or Jewish and I know this is completely wrong. Netanyahu has committed awful crimes, but not in this war he warned the world that they will do what it takes and he said there will be no refuge for Hamas, he warned, but Hamas stood in residential areas anyways. People need to look up the word War and the legal rules of war.
Talk, Talk, Talk, while people are Dying... Unbelievable....
@@mariahewitt9787Murica
Moral people don’t feel the need to go around constantly claiming to be moral people. Villains do that.
Nailed
Are you a moral person?
💯
exactly.
The "Israel side" was demolished here by very rational argumentation.
What are they worrying for ? They keep telling everyone they never break international law and are the most moral army in the world ! If warrants are issued no worries 😅
Because they know they're guilty.
Exactly 😅
It depends on the biased judges...the fact that the arrest was made means they have already found him guilty
Jihad is not criminal. Teaching students that every Jew is not criminal. Launching 5000 rockets simultaneously is not criminal. 7th October was not a terror act. But if Israel reacts, it is criminal.
also, no one trys to protect civilians like i§rael does...including the US
This will show if Europe believe in International laws or not. We all know US never did. 😑
who cares about the EU??
Intent or not. Let the court decide. What is the big deal. Israel defend yourself in court and stop crying
I think you need to revisit left hand.
Go ahead and arrest him now nonsense
Courts are rigged. The chief prosecutor is literally named Karim Khan 🤡
Israel doesnt recognise this court.
and what is the courts decision against hamas and iran leaders?
Let's hope the judges aren't corrupt
they are. you only have to look at their background.
Look At Muslims Ways Of Justice, As If We Are Living In Primitive Time. Their Decisions Are One Sided And Very Biased.
EVERYBODY should know how very corrupt and anti-Israel the ICC is. Israel and the USA saw the light many years ago - that's why they are not members of ICC.
As a German I expect they would have issued an arrest warrant for Sir Winston Churchill as well. He was lucky that this type of "justice" had not been invented back then.
Don't u know that jolly chubby old fellas are everybody's favourite?
@@rezalzmz Haven't you heard, no western official has been issued by arrest warrant before. I don't think there ever will be, considering none of western allies who has been sending weapon to help the crime is mentioned at all.
Absolutely agree 💯
Its not up to politicians to decide who is a war criminal and who is not;)
If it would be up to them no politician would ever go to jail.
Thats why ICC exist.
If they have broken no crimes they have nothing to be afraid of.
Netanyahu really sets the agenda. He is the one that came up with this talk of equivalence and all the western leaders are singing equivalence. What hold does Israel have on these leaders? Lobby groups?
The prosecutor did not say they are equivalent. He detailed Israel’s alleged breaches of international law.
70%Women and Palestinian children.
He also details Hamas crimes against humanity 😊
Maybe Khan got sick of being lied to by Israel.
No one is above the law . They being warned . You do the crime you do the time.Justice for Palestine 🇵🇸
yes you can arrest ishmael haniyeh, yayah sinwar, and khaled meshaal now
Aren’t both those men leading resistance against illegal occupying forces though? Under international law, of course
@@papadampreach
Illegal occupation started 1400 years ago. Everything needs to be reversed, otherwise humanity is doomed
No one is above the law, but Bill Clinton, Barak Obama, Tony Blair, Dick Cheney, Joe Biden,…….
@@2Sage-7PoetsOnly if the IDF arrests them!
Yes Sunak it’s very unhelpful to (attempt to) bring war criminals to justice 😒🤦🏽♂️
ICC decision to issue arrest warrants was long overdue.
ICC is a toothless beast. Simple as that!!
I hope Netanyahu get arrested
poppycock he’s fighting for israel’s survival, so get real
What are Hamas and Palestinians fighting for?
Theyre seperate warrants, this equivalence BS is just that, BS.
If Netanyahu thinks he's innocent then he should have no problem defending himself in court.
So where is arrest warrant on Saudis crown Prince and Iran who starve Yemen?
Justice for all the citizens of the world , if us and uk been complicit, sorry justice must be served as it supposed 😊
Now arrest him.
Time for France to obey international law and the rules-based order.
They are, and they are supporting the ICC so what the F are you talking about?
France is good on this. But others like the US and UK need to if they want to claim moral legitimacy on other issues. Agreeing with international law shouldn't be a pick and choose activity.
@@delos2279
Yes. But not before finding out who is filling the pockets of the judges
@@vilastamhane2219 Who was filling their pockets as they ruled against Israeli and Hamas leaders? The evidence for their rulings are plain as day. Go away conspiracist.
I'm not French but to be fair, France has a fairly decent track record of following international law in recent years. They were the strongest opponents to the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
News members should be held accountable for not reporting truth & have added crimes against humanity.
The guy talking about criminal intent is absurd. One charge is to do with depriving the WHOLE population. No ‘collateral damage’ when the entire population is the target.
"The time is always right to do what is right" - Dr. Martin Luther King
Hey Germany,you're not exactly out of the woods yet.
It’s gonna be another 80 years after this
One guest claims Hamas victims more valuable because Hamas can not aim precisely. I have seen a line of Israeli tanks firing from the border fence, directly into Gaza city. The fact they aim directly at civilians makes them less guilty???
The soon to be government of the UK, Labour, support the ICC. Sunak can not block or ignore ICC warrants.
Sunak will end up with an arrest warrant soon himself if he doesn't change course rather sharply. That's not what he wants.
Hopefully. From the outside it seems like Tories have run the country into the ground for the last decade.
@@polly6336I think any leaders who cut of funding to UNRWA whilst Israel starves them will end up with an arrest warrant.
@@polly6336they can't change course - that would be an admission of guilt.
Sunak should be arrested as well...
Never once is the idea of Israel being a modern democracy questioned
Is he said " is this justice or politics" kkkkk...
Maoa mutations, with distored logic, emphaty and moral.
If a group of people justify killing innocence to reach their goals whats the difference between a state and a terrorist group for the innocence that are killed
It's been 7 months of documented and viewed by millions worth of horrific acts by the IDF. Our phones needed additional storage to store the videos of innocent lives being ended in the most barbaric matter. As Americans we are familiar with war but are disgusted by our allies and their lies of the damages by the IDF.
What about the lies of your US government?
They forgot to include Germany and USA.
thank you ICC for giving lights for humanity. no one is above the law.
Will we have this debate if he was Robert Mugabe and not Netanyahu??? Or African or an Asian leader committing this sorts of crime.
That statement is correct BUT.. remember Israel has AI and advance technology to pinpoint individuals and attack/kill. But Hamas don't have that so they just randomly fire rockets to kill soldiers BUT kill civilians.
8:30 Victims are equal - crimes are different. The accusation against Netanyahu and his Defense Minister are different than the ones against the Hamas' leaders, btw. The accusation is not about the military actions but about the starvation imposed on the Palestinians of Gaza.
Would have been great to have a german journalist in the discussion.
The expression of an "inequivalent experience of equivalence" has it's merit, but my impression is that the case is horribly under-reported in general in germany.
The approach against public protest is also surprisingly harsh.
The situation doesn't seem to evolve.
Hey Germany, how it feels to be twice on the wrong side of history?
Hamas is not above international law.
Has done and get away with it…..
The very people that were guilty according to the ICJ were the ones that will decide / allow for peace how can that be possible now
Gil is more of a spokesman than an analyst. Actually, he never analyzes anything. But I am glad François invites him, for then we see what dissonance we have to cope with.
The PM NON GRATA is very right and on the JUSTICE side the Truth.
ICC must stick to where they prevail 100%, that is African countries.
EVIL Netanyahu 😡😡
Evil Satanyahu!!!!
EVIL jeet
@@stevecarr6175 Your comment is quite childish. Netanyahu has done many wrongful seemingly illegal things, enough that even the Israeli Supreme Court has tried to stop his crimes against Israel. He IS a shameful trump-like character.
"When Hamas fires a rocket, which is a very un-precise weapon, to a civilian area. What are they expecting to happen?"
You mean as opposed to Israel, who are firing unguided rockets, very un-precise weapons, to a civilian area? And they are not doing it "very, very, very, very rarely". There are legitimate reports that most of the bombing in Gaza was done with unguided rockets.
Putin is a western leader even if not currently aligned with the West.
He is not. He denounced the west and turned eastward.
He is not
Putin was never regarded as part of the western bloc. He's always been a threat because he's never been willing to "kiss the ring" of the Americans.
He behaves like.one (of the west hypocrites. What's the difference then?)
Who made the rule that the west is above the law? The west tarnishes its image and integrity globally by its hypocritic attitude.
If war criminals from the west and its allies don't get indicted, it sends a very wrong message about the so-called rules based order. The global south wouldn't respect it so it would be a huge precedent if the west obstructs justice.
There was no need for the delegations from ICC. They have enough evidence.
War is War, it's not games
Dunno about justice (par se) but injustice is the same no matter if the perpetrator is your next door neighbour or Idi Amin’s.
If Netanyahu doesn't travel to France, what do you have to say?
It's funny to hear the victims are not equal! Lives are not equal in this case by Israeli saying. Crime is crime no matter what it is!
Their logic is insane!
PM Netanyahu should not worry, he has committed no crime
Only Non-G6 can be charged.
War is war . Don’t throw stones is your living in a Cristal Castle.
Very good discussion. The UNRWA lawyer seems to be very sympathetic towards Gaza. He mentioned 75 years. He worked as a legal personnel for two decades. I have one question for him. Where was his legal mind when Hamas was using aid money to build tunnels, buying weapons for killing Israelis, for not building infrastructures in Gaza? Not only Johann, but the whole world was silent or ignorant about it.
Right on if you haven’t seen the whole world have seen it.
It's always right when someone from the global South accused of genocide or human rights.
Your humanitarian band that was bombed was probably targeted because they probably had video of what really was going on
Just speculating
3rd term, 15 years in power, not a democracy
The problem is pointing the finger at Israel when
1. Investigations have not been thorough inside Gaza.
2. When discrepancies have been found in the Hamas reporting from Gaza.
3. Israel has not been given the opportunity to defend herself.
Check who is most against Is a good thermometer to see who is the most corrupt 😏
I will watch this broadcast twice. This was a very interesting interaction.
Only now we are discovering the real numbers
38:47 Cuba? Can someone explain to this guy that the American sanctions against Cuba, supported faithfully by Israel governments, are UNILATERAL. Nothing to do with an INTERNATIONAL Court.
At the same time, the contrast is clear: His position is against alleged war criminals to be prosecuted if they are close to his favorites, and the best example he can mention by name of those who would deserve that kind of treatment is Cuba?
Don't complain when you find yourself on the opposite side of the rest of the world 😎🇨🇺
Panel doesn't looks expert.
They r just talking here and there.
Gil Milhaely you are big lier
Would not it be great that international disputes were settled in court rather than with bombs. Oh but not much profit in that
Previously Africa took Isreal to court,what was the Judge's verdicts..?
Correct ICC needs to give complete plan
This court bogus where is bush and tony Blair they did the worst
Is a terrible act of the settlers but there is not the IDF
that was old times now people are more intelligent and know the news and find out what’s going on.
Israël you are not alone your GOD IS YOUR CHAMPION AMEN 🙏🏼
Great discussion with many points of view
Justice can be seen in itself injustice if not careful
Israel is finally facing justice
Great discussion, if there was anybody having any doubts about who are the Bad Guys, it was just plainly stated.
No, Netanyahu and Gallant are not guilty of war crimes. Hamas brought terrorist attacks to Israel on Oct. 7, 2023. Even though AID was sent to Israel for food and other needed supplies, Hamas stop convoys and help themselves to much of the AID; therefore, does not reach the actual Palestinian civilians. That is not the fault of Israel or U.S.
Putin attacked ,Hamas attacked .Israeli defended the active verb after nouns are opposite words.So judge it according to the active verb after nouns .
The ICC and the chief prosecutor should be sanctioned
No Israel does not want to let any of these people in Israel.
No wonder the court prosecutor is one of the supporter of the Hamas,he should know that he is the next to feel the weight of the Israelites
Sunak has been nothing but absolute failure regarding Palestinians well being .
When justice is taken to the West and allies there are many questions raised and countless debates
Sorry utube I thought there was gonna be a question and answer panel..
USA may pull out of EU because fight a war in Europe can be a problem. ICC will bring trials against them.
ICC shud ask both countries to come to settlements by stop throwing rockets n stop instigating Hamas to play hide n seek in Rafa,
France's introduction is good.
Great discussion! Great guests‼️ Thank you!
Are Gasa and Palestine Recognized Independant Countries?
If they are not recognized as open countries, who do they protect.
israel is guilty,
the guy sitting naked on the chair with his handy tied to his back. google the picture
the soldier was standing in front of him, he could only die if the soldier decided so
It's called interrogation, snowflake
There is a big risk of prosecuting defensive actions, such as in this case of Israel, with proportionately low civilian casualties, whether you love Israel or loathe them. There is no doubt that Hamas charter sets out to destroy Jewish people, anywhere, with Israeli leaders having a duty to protect their citizens, at all cost. It puts many international leaders at risk if they go out to defend their countries.
Hamas changed their charter, you're wrong.
@RazorMouth My main point was that of the prosecuting a leader carrying out a defensive action, which is a slippery slope. However as you are mentioning it, the more recent 2017 version of the charter was regarded by most as merely a cosmetic makeover in order to get even more money to enrich the billionaire coffers of the Hamas leaders as proven in the many recent videos of Hamas terrorists saying "idbakh al yahud"
@RazorMouth Cosmetically, to further fill their billionaire fat coffers with aid money meant to help their people. You likely know this though. Their chanting has remained exactly the same. The main point however, is that prosecuting leaders carrying out defensive actions to protect their citizens is a slippery slope...
I hate that you don‘t understand in order for persecution to issue arrest warrants there has to be evidence of magnitude
The IDF's claimed "ratio" is so manifestly untrue, it's embarassing.
Take a look at Hamas' October 7th civilian-to-combatant ratio. We'll continue to assume that there was no friendly fire, and we won't include the legally-armed civilians.
I am not surprised that nobody mentions this ratio. Nor that Hamas developed and ratified a charter over the course of 2012-15 where they lay out plainly what they have said since 2000: they accept a two state solution.
One Hamas leader went on about how they would do "October 7th" over and over again, but leave out the preface: If we do not receive some justice after years wasted jumping through Israeli hoops, this is what will happen.
who will investigate? you can't even condemn hamas? shut up help your people
Can someone ask what is his true name and why did he changed his name.
Correction: Vladimir Putin is a democratically elected leader.
Really.....
Gil needs to change the topic to serve his arguments. Answer the question.
France and Germany should not agree with ICC about arresting Netanyahu. Don’t they understand Hamas and Hezbollah use Palestinian civilians as human shields for their attacks upon Israel. How ridiculous for U.N. and ICC to be against Israel. The Jewish people are fighting for their lives and their democracy. I stand with Israel; they have right to self defense of their nation.