Quick correction on the Siamese cat part, they were not Japanese stereotypes, they were Thai. Thailand was formerly called Siam. The Siamese peninsula is comprised of Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, and arguably Malaysia.
Fun Fact: Despite being the Main Character, the actor that played Uncle Remus was not allowed to attend the premiere of the film due to the color of his skin.
@@bryguy1502 i know and i was just clarifying that Walt Disney had nothing to do with it, ause because of Walt Disney he was the first black actor to win an Oscar
I did too, I thought all the characters were lit, especially the crows and the cats.... but it was still blatant racism. As long as you don't find it offensive it ok tho, it just shouldn't be replicated today.
Personally think the people pointing out this “racism” are racist for pointing at the stereotypes saying “oh well he’s black. Because he talks funny” it’s like bruh I think the crows and Indians to be my favorite characters for how they acted. Hell when I was little I remember dancing around chanting like a Native American after watching that because I wanted to be one of them. Disappointing fr
When I was really young that movie, along with other movies that had like cowboys versus natives, made me think they were scary and backwards. The bit where they tried to make Wendy stay and do "women's work" also kinda stuck with me and it made me feel weird. I know now that those were stereotypes but growing up I didn't have very many positive experiences with Natives in media. The only one that was somewhat respectful was the Indian in the Cupboard movie. I'm not sure how it holds up now but it was the first time I can recall seeing something that didn't make native Americans seem like crazy warrior people that treated women badly
@@thedeadlydoc2379 pointing out those things doesn't make someone racist but it probably means they have a fixation on race related things, I never understood the whole "you're racist for saying its racist" line
I always felt sorry for the actor who portrayed the character of Uncle Remus. He stole the movie, with his songs and jovial attitude. Yet, he was still discriminated to the point that he was denied entry to the theater premiering the movie HE starred in.😠😭
Yeah. That's cause they choose to premiere it in Atlanta. If they'd done it in California, he probably would've been able to attend. He legit required very little direction, and Walt praised him by saying he was probably the best actor around, basically.
@@ChaoticButterfly Yeah walt praised him and if i remember correctly, he was originally invited by Walt but wasn't able to make it because of location(Atlanta was racially segregated at the time).
What did you expect lol 😆. The videos were back in a time where black people were very segregated and Japanese were hated because of the bombing of pearl harbor
@@JamesThePokemonHunter True. Lol😅. It just always leaves me shook, it's awkward watching when you planned to force your future children to watch your childhood movies😅
agreed.. that one isn't as bad compared to some of the others on this list imo.. sure he is stereotyped but so are a lot of characters in movies. just look at a random high school based american movie and you'll always see the same stereotypes of the losers and the mean girl that is extremely popular. it's really the way you look at it.
King Louie is a stretch - the whole movie is based around jazz, so they talked like the jazz "hep cats". Louie reminded me of Sammy Davis; not a racist caricature.
@@0816M3RC That's because people don't learn from it, they wallow in it. They think that forgiving means forgetting. You can forgive past wrongs and still learn from them. My opinion anyway.
12:20 The reason things look better the farther you go back in time was because Disney focused used to focus on quality animation up until they stopped making 2D animated movies. Now every animation studio including Disney focuses on cheap animation because it's cost-effective.
The racism in Peter Pan feels intentional. I mean, Tiger Lily’s skin tone looks more like actual Native Americans, but all the others are red as can be. That shows they knew exactly what native Americans look like and made the decision to make them red anyway.
How quickly you forget. The indians, cuz that's what they are, in Peter Pan are based on what British kids think native Americans are. They're not racial stereotypes, they're just fancy versions of what British kids thought they were.
My paternal grandmother was Kiowa and Peter Pan was actually one of her favorite Disney movies. She loved watching the old cartoons of the 50s and 60s with a high level of tolerance and hoped that one day she would see a proper animation of Native Americans. She got that wish when Pocahontas premiered and while she knew very well that it was not accurate at all, she cried when she saw the characters drawn exactly like her.
Yeah, what everyone forgot is that Disney was legit a HUGE animator when it came to talking about the wars. Legit I watched a series of Disney shorts that were produced around that time.
Still makes it racist. Just like a man beating his wife would still be considered wrong whether or not the beating took place when it was still legal to do that. Wrong is wrong.
The fact that it happened and it is depicted is not racist. The whitewashing, showing slaves to be happy, singing in english in a wholesome and content manner, is. It denies the brutality of slavery, therefore casting anyone who would oppose such a happy-go-lucky society, as a crazed, uninformed contrarian.
I'd be more concerned with Disney being CCP shills, than whether they made some funny Asian jokes. That crap is hilarious. Don't be offended on my behalf. Just stay the f777 away from my constitutional rights and leave my race the hell out of these divide-and-conquer political games. Another hilarious scene: A Christmas Story (Chinese Restaurant scene). People are way too sensitive and easy to manipulate these days. Sh77's funny, get over it.
That wasnt Louis Armstrong, that was Louis Prima that voiced king Louis Fun fact When the Sherman brothers, who did the music for all the classic disney movies, spoke to the musician about the part, he exclaimed "Are you trying to make a monkey out of me?" They replied laughingly, "yeah"
You kind of have to take in to account the attitudes of the time. Stuff like this shouldn't be censored because then you are portraying an incorrect view of how the past was and it would stop us from seeing how far we have come.
@@idontknowreally2474 I watched them as a kid and I was fine. The racism in these shows is mostly in the forms of stereotypes and the actual race being portrayed is inferred. So it will go over their heads. Also children of colour really? Your going to use that politically charged term on children now? I guess there are only two types of kids now the white ones and all the other races neatly packed into a convenient label. I really hate that term because it seems to portray white people as either the standard race and then there is everyone else or it seems that it’s purposely designed to exclude white people as if they aren’t an equal colour of their own. I’m not accusing you of being a racist though.
@@lobbyskids2 POC is a respectful term to refer to non-white people? 😕 Any term you use that singles out white people.... well singles them out? But I'm not gonna include white people because I'm not talking to them! Are you gonna say next that saying "LGBTQ+" singles out heterosexuals as a "standard sexuality"? Also, you can't take your own experience and talk for everybody. You are not everybody. Dont forget that these shows arent THAT old. that there are still racist stereotypes in half or even more everything today, we havent progressed as much as you think. Keeping the sterotypes just adds them to the list. I also still stand by what I said, kids wont see it as a "learning point." Not having good rep and instead using racist sterotypes only says you dont have respect for your POC audience. (even going father, sterotypes for other groups too, (LGBTQ+, women, muslim community, etc) Sorry for the long message, thank you for your time.
King Louie was voiced by jazz/swing musician Louis Prima, who's Italian American and came out of Louisiana. That's exactly how he performed, so not racist. Half this list is BS. She even called the Siamese cats a "Japanese" stereotype.
It’s the people who point out racism that are racist. They are the ones that point and say “if you talk or look like this your that race” they are the ones discriminating and nobody knows that.
Technically it was racist since he's meant to be a mockery of African-American subculture. Especially since he was voiced by a white man. Same reason why Jim Crow from Dumbo is a racist character.
@@vetarlittorf1807 All characters in Disney movies are a mockery and exaggeration of the culture they are depicting. I don't understand why, for instance, Asian characters depicted with slanted eyes are considered racist. They have slanted eyes. How else would they be depicted...with western eyes? Now that would be racist because that would send a message that Asian eyes aren't good enough.
@@blanketstarry7725 There's a difference between animating races accurately and in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at that centaur scene in Fantasia where there's a beautiful, normal-looking white centaur being served by a black centaur with exaggerated features. That is clearly meant to be a mockery of black people and therefore racist.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I agree on that, and many other of the things pointed out in this vid. I disagree on some others and I was using the Asian eyes as an example. That's just how their eyes are and there is nothing racist about that. Of course, in the same scene they do use racist buck teeth, but I've seen people get bent out of shape when it's just the eyes.
People look into it a little to much. It’s a nice art style. I’ve watched Asian cinema,anime and other. I love the art style. Over exaggerating don’t bother me. Also where I’m from everyone’s a stereotypes. Some stereotypes are funny if you’re around them.
I thought Aladdin would be because the only character who actually *looks* Arabic is Jafar, the villain. Aladdin himself was straight up modeled after Tom Cruise, Jennifer Connelly inspired Jasmine. I'd entirely forgotten about the song lol Random fact: In an original draft of the movie, Aladdin's mom was alive. There was even a song around her called "Proud of Your Boy", which ended up being cut. For some "WTF" reason, that is where the far-right group got their name. Also, Abu was voiced by Megatron.
It’s not racist to depict stereotypes. They exist and are perpetuated for a reason. Wether you like it or not people look, talk, and act in a way that characterizes enough of a population to stick with that population for a long time. This magical world where everyone looks acts and sounds the exact same (whatever we decide normal is) to avoid offending anyone sounds far more racist to me.
Disney now includes a disclaimer on certain movies and episodes saying that this film/Episode contains unflattering racial depictions that were not ok then and are not ok now. But we're continuing to include them and acknowledge our mistakes in the hope of opening up conversation about these topics so we can grow past..." or something to that effect. I don't know the exact wording.
I wish i was born back in the day where people didnt bitch about stereo types in cartoon movies. It kinda looks like humanity is going down the drain the more people start to focus on racism they even find it at places there isnt any nowadays.... there are cultural differences between where humans are born/raised and people cant mention that now because we live together? Bro i hate emotional thinkers/fake empathy
Divide and conquer, because wiping out all the small businesses and replacing them all with megacorps wasn't enough. They want everything, your identity, your rage, everything.
@@manictiger looks like you don't have a problem with corporatism per se but Capitalism in general, and that's pretty good, I'd suggest looking more into why corporations are bad other than whatever reactionaries tell you why (they want to divide via identity politics and culture wars rather than class solidarity)
@@techissus7449 I'm against corruption and neo-feudalism, not capitalism. The globalists are trying to warp capitalism into neo-feudalism. Capitalism isn't what they're after, or they wouldn't be creating so much fiat currency. "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy about it" is their goal. Come to think of it, it sounds exactly like communism.
@@manictiger do you know *why* so many died? There were a multitude of factors, poor communication (the country was literally just building it's communication infastructure to the point the USSR was asking why they were going so slow) to the point they didn't know so many were starving, had they known they could've diverted resources and saved millions (they had more than enough in other regions to feed all). their soil was irregular, and so conventional farming didn't work in certain areas. Not to mention the areas that starved weren't new to this as it was a regular occurrence under the old regeime, it's worth noting this never happened again after the first 5 year plan
@@mervynlarrier9424 No, the definition of rascist is thinking that a certain race is above another. Stereotypes are the go to thought you have when thinking of a group of people. Or maybe this video is more prejudice, which isn’t always bad
Yeah, speaking the voice of King Louie while being black isn't racist, his voice would have been fitting for the character. You play a fictional cartoon character. And all humans were monkeys at some time. And if it would be racist for black people so it would be for all other people, too. Or are black people too good for that, Watchmojo? That would be racist. In the end it is a job with a paycheck and we don't see the face of the actor. Watchmojo is known for blowing stuff out of proportions, don't take it too seriously.
@@adriangonzalez3yearsago927 you can't use that definition in reference to art but you can't easily translate racial superiority into art. This cartoon was during anti communsim era and the point of it was degrade the asain people
And Pinocchio's dad is a stereotype of a German, and Captain Hook is a stereotype of a Spanish pirate. And nobody cares because there's no woke points to gain in crying about white caricatures. Who actually cares? Generations from now people are going to look back at this alarmism over racism and think we're insane.
No one would know that about Captain Hook (he doesn’t even have a Spanish accent) and Giapetto is Italian because the story Pinocchio is literally from Italy before Disney made the movie. This is more than an accent, this is about negative stereotypes like drawing black people to look close to monkeys like that mermaid scene or have a character named Jim Crow be black. And it’s not even about the time period either, the video is literally about racist clips in Disney films.. that’s it. You’re acting like we can’t look back and think of how bad that actually was. It’s history that reminds us not to repeat it and to prevent our kids from growing up seeing themselves interpreted in that light. That’s the whole point of history
Song of the South is during the Reconstruction era. Remember, Uncle Remus left the plantation on his own free will after Johnny’s Mother disapproved of his stories, and he came back once he heard Johnny was struck by the bull.
This. A lot of the issues with song of the south is the way it was written actually hid a lot of details that are super important to understanding that the story isn't as racist as it seems to be starting off.
Song of the South was a passion project for Walt Disney, as it was based on material he had a strong sense of nostalgia over. Now, a film made in the 40s, based on something that was nostalgic to its creator? Yeah, no wonder it did not age well. Disney is trying their damndest to pretend this movie does not even exist. Forget releases on Disney Plus with a content warning, this thing will never be rereleased, ever. Which honestly is a bit of a shame, as some of the fully animated segments are actually really good.
Some "racist" things aren't ACTUALLY racist, by English definition, they're just things said buy an extra soft "woke" person who's offended by everything
There were four black centaurettes in the Pastoral Symphony scene. There was Sunflower, pictured there, another, similar to her, that is called Otika (different hairstyle than Sunflower), then there were two zebra-bodied centaurettes who acted as servants to Bacchus. They actually designed male and female ones, but only two females made it to the final film. Louis Prima (who voiced King Louis) was also a Jazz musician/band leader, at the time. I'd imagine he was familiar with Jive.
Absolutely none of these things are racist. What, you want every single character in your movie to look, sound, and act like a white person? Besides, most of those characters weren't exactly the bad guys. Hell, aside from his own mother and Timothy, those crows were like the only characters who were ever nice to Dumbo. And as for Song of the South, two things: 1. People who slam that movie are completely missing the point; which is that stories can be used as a means of helping people get through rough times. That's the reason why Uncle Remus is in such high spirits. Times are rough (to say the least), but he has those stories to help cheer him up and he feels good when he has an audience to tell them to. 2. The actor who played Uncle Remus was the first black male actor to receive an Academy Award; which was for his work on that movie. So banning that movie is doing him and the black community a disservice.
There’s no way you actually said none of these are racist you must be either a racist yourself or just incredibly stupid. No one said they had to act like “white people” they should just act like a normal fucking human being instead of building them off of racist stereotypes and honestly what does it mean to act like a white person? You’re honestly a disgusting person
The racist stereotypes of indigenous people is pretty messed up, considering I’m indigenous myself it tends to piss me off seeing how they depicted us. Bright red skin, giant noses, drunks, bandannas with a feather in it & making that stupid noise when nowhere in history did indigenous tribes never made those sounds.
Wanerbros still put things like this out. They put a notice on the beginning saying it might offend but it's a product of it's time and history shouldn't be ignored.
No he’s not racist, but he’s a stereotypical character Disney wants to put! Btw if you’re dumbo isn’t racist (I know you didn’t mention it) but dumbo is highly racist for one reason and one reason only, actually 2! For the crows! Did you know that the person that who acts as the leader crow aka Jim Crow, IS WHITE?! Yes the crows were nice and friendly and honestly they were my favorites until I researched some shit and like they said, that doesn’t change the fact that it’s extremely offensive to black people including myself! I cry at that scene more than the baby mine scene. And remember the hammer and working song from dumbo? Well if you hear the lyrics “we work all day we work all night, we never learn to read it right we’re happy hearted roustabouts” and so on and so forth and ALL of the workers were African Americans! And the animals were there too, but still.....you’re gonna tell me that’s not racist? My point is Walter Elias Disney wasn’t a bad person, but we was extremely racist and made a joke out of animal cruelty if you take a real close look at dumbo and it’s story. And also I read an article saying that uncle Remus is an Uncle Tom joke! Do you even know who Uncle Tom is?
And btw some people might say dumbo isn’t supported animal cruelty, it’s showing that it’s an actual thing and it should stop and maybe I agree with that..... but the racist stuff in cartoons? They wouldn’t allow that today.
While I and my friends agree on some of these being stereotypical in a malignant sense (the Japanese portrayal in Commando Duck for example and the black centaur), we agree that these days people are aware, even kinda hyper aware, of these kinda things and as soon as something is seen as stereotypical it is automatically "Baaad". Let me give an example of a neutral stereotype: "Ach, laddie". I said that to someone I learned was from Scotland as a light joke, didn't mean anything bad with it, and he took mild offense. Not because it was offensive, but it was stereotypical. Now, in that case it was subjective as someone else I know simply rolled their eyes with a smile at silly foreigners and took no offense. Thing is, there are charming and attractive aspects of different peoples and cultures that people like to make neutral stereotypes of, not to be racists or anything like that, but because they like them. Look at Star Wars the Clone Wars series. In it we have quite a few races depicted in various ways and speaking with different accents. Are these meant to be stereotypes because of that? The native speakers may or may not decide so as it is entirely subjective, but we all ought to know that they were never meant to be stereotypical in nature, but simply to add diversity to a big and populated galaxy. Or perhaps the Star Wars galaxy is one big stereotype of mankind herself. I grew up on Disney film such as The Jungle Book and I never once bought into the whole racism thing surrounding the portrayal of King Louie and his gang. My thought, as a kid, was that because it took place in Africa (I later learned it was actually in India), it made sense they cast at least one who has roots there, or so I was taught anyway. Aside from that, King Louie is a beloved character for a reason, (him being funny and charming, like real apes, being key reasons) and his later depiction (largely unchanged) in Talespin as a close friend and "cousin" character to Baloo's seems to promote friendship and equality rather than anything else. Want to talk stereotypes? Look at the Lion King. Rafiki is a stereotypical black native shaman, but that doesn't stop be from liking him nor does it make me think low of black people in any way. Mufasa was voice by James "Darth Vader" Earl Jones. His mighty voice for Mufasa can be seen as stereotypical since he's African-American but I am too in awe of it to care. Zazu is the stereotypical British Butler/Adjutant but British people I know don't give a hoo-haa about it. And is no one going to point out that an obviously white adjutant is serving a black guy in this film? That's a win for equality. No, the fact that this is a very African themed movie makes pretty much all stereotypes, whether you perceive them to be neutral or bad, moot, no more than that, it makes everything fitting the theme instead. Native Americans being depicted as red to me is because they were tribes people (I do not know whether they are tribes today or not so any Native Americans reading this, please forgive me if that was in error), living a simple yet at the same time tough life with nature. This meant spending a lot of time in the sun and thus getting a good sunburn. To me that is common sense, not racism. As for the song and such in the Peter Pan movie, I would teach my kids that these indians are singing only of themselves, as in the indians of Never Never Land. Real Indians, or rather the Native Americans, they'd have to look into themselves. And don't you think there are stereotypes they have of white men or westerners right back? I chose to view such things are ridiculous or funny, I just get unhappy if I take offense and it wont make a difference if I do. I live in Sweden, and within Scandinavia we have stereotypes and jokes about one another. Some might be a tad offensive in nature but I don't tell them kinds of jokes. But we are all aware of the jokes and we still can laugh with each other about it. I once worked in Norway and I was to receive a piece of paper containing some information I needed, but I received the one from the day before by mistake and I pointed this out and once I got the right one I said: "See, us Swedes are only half as stupid as you think we are ;)" and we all laughed at that. So, my bottom line is this; do yourselves a favor and learn to see the difference between bad stereotypes and neutral stereotypes. And once you do, learn to take the neutral ones in stride, especially the ones not even directed at you. You are likely to live a slightly easier and happier life doing so.
Yeah... look, we need to stop calling them "Native Americans". Anyone born in North America is a "Native American" by definition of "Native" and besides that, my "Native American" ancestors came here from Asia some 10,000 to 25,000 years ago, so calling them "Native Americans" makes 0 sense.
I think all of this stuff should be preserved for the future. It's a part of history, a very uncomfortable and frankly, evil part but also quite important. They say those who forget past mistakes are liable to repeat them, after all. These clips could actually be really useful for history classes (particularly in America but also in many other countries) to provide examples of what the world used to be like and what we want to avoid ever happening again. Of course, they'd need a disclaimer and some background information for context, that goes without saying. We need to make it clear to the viewer that these clips are being presented specifically as a historical document and cautionary tale. However, if handled correctly, it could work and be very beneficial.
I did not know in the part of the "When i see an elephant fly" that there were stereotypical black speech.... i just watched and just stared there and enjoyed the movie.... i thought it was like "thats how people speak because crows can't talk"... now im seeing it in a new light
back in a time were no one bat an eye about things to bad we got to senstive these days that people get to offended at everything it has even got so far that people who are not part of the group complain about how a group got offended and now they are killing the voice act industry by replacing good actors with bad ones just becausethey did not have same color as the character they made whats next will not people be allowed voice animals in cartoons anymore because that offends animals.. sorry to rant i just think the world becomes so pathetic in recent years
They even complain when the voice actor is the same race as the character. Like the comedian Fluffy is voicing Speedy Gonzales in the new Space Jam and the woke people are screaming racist. There is no pleasing those people.
King Louie wasn’t racist, he was played by Louis Prima, a jazz musician, and king Louie, and they were playing jazz. And the Siamese cats aren’t Japanese, they’re Siamese.
You can still find Song of the South on the internet. Our church youth group went to see it in the theater in Sherman, TX in 1980. I'm glad y'all have never seen it.
Some additional info on the racism of the animation studios, specifically to indigenous people is the fact that most native American/indigenous women in movies where sexualized. Meaning they were drawn with less clothing not accurate to their culture or shown to be acting sexually to other characters, mostly the main character(s). for example, tiger Lily from Peter pan, Pocahontas from Pocahontas, Chel from road to El dorado and kida from atlantis the lost empire. If anyone wants me to go into more detail I'm happy to I like spreading awareness bout this topic
When I was a kid when I first saw Dumbo, and I saw that part, I didn’t really think much of it other than they were entertaining singing crows. I just liked how awesome they were Because they sing so well and they seemed so cool. I thought they carried the movie. But it’s sad to realize the overall stereotypes and the connotations behind these characters.
The stereotypes are somewhat justified with context though because many black performers in those time is who the crowd were based off of so it’d be like when in zootopia they have an animal played by sharkia behave like how shakira does in a jungle setting but is it racist because she’s Colombian or accurate to the celebrity it’s based off of. Same with Chechen and Ching in that film, stereotypes based off individuals are just caricatures but based a whole group is bigoted
King Louie actually wasn't racist. He was played by popular jazz singer Louis Prima. Louis was an Itallian singer from New Orleans who took inspiration from many black musicians like Louis Armstrong because he often frequented Itallian Jazz clubs where him and many of the black musicians played together. So it was reflected in his style of music and this was just how he talked and sang.
@@andreja9425 1. Trading proper storytelling for the sake of inclusivity and pandering to specific viewpoints (Captain Marvel, Mulan, Star Wars sequels). 2. Contributing to cancel culture by firing people for unintentional comments or voicing their own opinions and views (Gina Carson, James Gunn, etc.)
@@JDog2656 Gina Carano was fired for a good reason (Disney asked her to stop tweeting insensitive stuff, which she said sure. But of course, she didn’t stop), and James Gunn was rehired. So... no
Imagine growing up with these being your 7AM cartoons in a time where that kind of assholery was openly accepted and encouraged Couldn't be me This comment was made by the 2002 watching Sonic X gang
Honestly while the asian wartime ones and the black ones like the Santa and centaur ones were pretty bad All the others I don't see as racist really, like stereotypical which can be offensive to some but most of the characters they say are racist were characters most people thought were cool and were liked. King Louie and the Siamese cats while kinda bad guys aren't made out as bad because of the race they may depict, and even then their songs are great and the characters are considered good bad guys. Whereas the Indians in Peter Pan, The asian cat in The Aristocats, and the Crows from Dumbo while again being stereotypical were good guys and were liked by both the characters in the movies and the fans of the movies. Not because they are stereotypes to make fun of but because they are seen as cool characters. Sure you can laugh at the stereotypes which could be seen as being a racist but like at the same time most kids still liked the characters innocently.
Good video, I will always retain the opinion that racism CAN be funny, when done correctly. Some of these older videos might have pushed the line on it though.
To me, the real issue is if its being done as mockery. The japanese scenes in cartoons in the 40s were done as racist mockeries of our wartime enemies. But I dont think king louie could be considered the same way. Yes there are unfortunate implications, but its not being done on the level of that mammy doll. I think that should be the main question when deciding to be offended by something, "what was the intent of this bit?" If its being done to insult or deride the group, then by all means, demand its removal. That chopstick piano playing cat for instance, that was clear and obvious mockery. The siamese cats in lady and the tramp? Not so much.
Can you guys pls react to “Prosecutors sends innocent black man to jail, and lives to regret it” by dhar mann i know aaron is gonna get mad by watching this so i would love to see your reaction
As a native, I don't find the song from Peter Pan or the name Redskins as offensive. I mean "What makes the Red man red" is stupid but not something I feel like oppressed against
From Wikipedia: “In recognition of his portrayal of (Uncle Remus), (James Baskett) was given an Honorary Academy Award, making him the first black male performer to receive an Oscar. Despite his leading role, Baskett was not considered for a competitive Academy Award for Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor.” It’s a shame that Disney will not allow his performance to be seen because of their own mistakes. They should own up to it the way Warner Brothers does and release it with a disclaimer. They are erasing African American history in an attempt to hide their past racism.
The last one was THE worst one... and I know for a fact that they played that uncut version for kids everywhere in daycares and elementary schools before people objected enough where Disney removed it permanently from everywhere.
If you actually bothered to research the film, you'd realize how good it is and that by hiding it away you are demonstrating racism toward the actors and actresses that starred in it.
6:42 I’m Native American and I’m not that red!! In fact my family is quite pale! Why did they make them so red? Sure when I get sunburned I look like a lobster, but this is a whole other share of red!
Its actually really disturbing where the term "redskins" come from, although the warriors handprint is red, it actually comes from way back to when the Europeans came and conquered our land, their were bounties set up for any Native Americans who were causing a lot of trouble (obviously to fight back against the colonizers ways), they would send people out to kill who ever was wanted and had to bring back the scalp of that native in order to prove that he or she killed him/her, hence, thats where redskin came from.
@@Plaugonic 😳 slightly disturbing and interesting information. I just always thought Native Americans were called that because we have a slight red coloring in our skin
@@stellastargazer1972 I wished that was true, though it might have a little bit to do with that, its mainly because of what i said. Sorry to disturb you.
As a Cherokee...I never found the Indians in Peter Pan racist...If I didn't stay indoors as often as I do, I turn beat red...And I mean long term. I used to work as a Landscaping and Irrigation handyman and during those years I was just as red as they were depicted... Secondly, in the Aristocrats scene from the song Everybody Wants to be a Cat, the Asian cat even says he is gonna play Chopsticks (the piano music) with Chopsticks (eating utensils) and comes up with that rhyme on the fly as most of the lyrics are "Improvisations" (From the movies perspective). The kids get in on it, the adults, they all take turns just adding lyrics...the horse, the goose grandpa... Let's be real people...If you want to find something offensive you can go out of your way to find it. Sure some of these were rough, but it was a different time and while they aren't acceptable to replicate these days, these movies are classics and don't need censorship...Adults and Kids can look at Jim Crow and be like "That shit is racist..." And enjoy the rest of the movie, Hell even enjoy the character as he is a pretty likable one.
Disney would be so screwed if they had the same idea when these shows were relisesed and then aired them today. They would get so many lawsuits and so many people would get them canceled.
All far in love and warfare, so I'd give all the cartoons made during wartime a pass since it's actually meant to dehumanize the enemy and not out of misguided or ignorant views.
@@akirachiyoko2134 In the next major war you'll see the same thing repeating on both sides, ever watch the Vietnam or Korean cartoons portraying Americans as literal invading capitalist pigs or cold blooded wolfs? While I don't really believe all is fair in love, war is war and the past shows sides accusing the other of any number of dehumanizing lies, one example being cannibalism.
As a child i loved the crows I've never seen any racism in them. But maybe it's because i'm not american They are still legends and dumbo is one of my favorite movies
With king louie, i'd say eye of the beholder. I like the king orangutan and the actual orangutan is a very intelligent creature that i believe can one day become equal to human intelligence. They learned to mimic human behavior, i believe they'll be a step closer to take human's place.
1:15 I'm from asia and I don't see any problem from that specialy when it was created during ww2. So the reaction of the UA-camrs offended me a little bit because it was like making the Japanese during that time look innocent.
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Bruh
6:15 dude they're watchmojo they complain about everything and anything for views
Wwe actually has alot of racist moments including a black wrestler acting Nigerian with a stereotypical accent look up wwe apollo crews today
Yall should react to the 3rd SpongeBob theory by Alex bale since yall reacted to the first 2
watch Honest Trailer Peter Pan
Quick correction on the Siamese cat part, they were not Japanese stereotypes, they were Thai. Thailand was formerly called Siam. The Siamese peninsula is comprised of Thailand, Vietnam, Myanmar, and arguably Malaysia.
Oh I never knew that
Siam was also the setting for The King and I
Only if u knew
Thank you for sharing that. It's nice to learn some new
Yeah I was about to say they got the country completely wrong. That’s ignorance on their part
Fun Fact: Despite being the Main Character, the actor that played Uncle Remus was not allowed to attend the premiere of the film due to the color of his skin.
now that’s just crazy....😳
It's due to segregation not because they didn't want him to be there
@@bsharahourany154 There’s like no difference. Either way, he couldn’t attend because he was black.
@@bryguy1502 i know and i was just clarifying that Walt Disney had nothing to do with it, ause because of Walt Disney he was the first black actor to win an Oscar
That’s just sad
I’m a full blood Native American Indian and I thought those redskins from Peter Pan were lit asf 😭😭
I did too, I thought all the characters were lit, especially the crows and the cats.... but it was still blatant racism. As long as you don't find it offensive it ok tho, it just shouldn't be replicated today.
Personally think the people pointing out this “racism” are racist for pointing at the stereotypes saying “oh well he’s black. Because he talks funny” it’s like bruh I think the crows and Indians to be my favorite characters for how they acted. Hell when I was little I remember dancing around chanting like a Native American after watching that because I wanted to be one of them. Disappointing fr
When I was really young that movie, along with other movies that had like cowboys versus natives, made me think they were scary and backwards. The bit where they tried to make Wendy stay and do "women's work" also kinda stuck with me and it made me feel weird. I know now that those were stereotypes but growing up I didn't have very many positive experiences with Natives in media. The only one that was somewhat respectful was the Indian in the Cupboard movie. I'm not sure how it holds up now but it was the first time I can recall seeing something that didn't make native Americans seem like crazy warrior people that treated women badly
@@thedeadlydoc2379 pointing out those things doesn't make someone racist but it probably means they have a fixation on race related things, I never understood the whole "you're racist for saying its racist" line
Same here 💀
I always felt sorry for the actor who portrayed the character of Uncle Remus. He stole the movie, with his songs and jovial attitude. Yet, he was still discriminated to the point that he was denied entry to the theater premiering the movie HE starred in.😠😭
Yeah. That's cause they choose to premiere it in Atlanta. If they'd done it in California, he probably would've been able to attend. He legit required very little direction, and Walt praised him by saying he was probably the best actor around, basically.
@@ChaoticButterfly Yeah walt praised him and if i remember correctly, he was originally invited by Walt but wasn't able to make it because of location(Atlanta was racially segregated at the time).
@@xXLunatikxXlulthis was because Georgia was the home state of the author of the Uncle Remus Brer Rabbit stories
No bruh Disney had some very questionable things. The racism was so slick that you could gel your hair up with it😂
What did you expect lol 😆. The videos were back in a time where black people were very segregated and Japanese were hated because of the bombing of pearl harbor
@@JamesThePokemonHunter True. Lol😅. It just always leaves me shook, it's awkward watching when you planned to force your future children to watch your childhood movies😅
There was nothing subtle about most of these, blows my mind tho. I'm glad that shit didn't subconsciously make me a racist. Fuck Disney
Disney
HAH
Try Warner
@@spacetacos7574 this is true, they were obnoxious with it too
Crows from Dumbo: "No, I ain't seen yo kid 'round here, no way, no how."
Peter Griffin: "That's good old fashioned family racism."
Nice reference to Alexander the Great in your profile name. 👌🏻👌🏻
I don't care if Louie is a stereotype. He's awesome and sings my favorite Disney song of all time.
agreed.. that one isn't as bad compared to some of the others on this list imo.. sure he is stereotyped but so are a lot of characters in movies. just look at a random high school based american movie and you'll always see the same stereotypes of the losers and the mean girl that is extremely popular. it's really the way you look at it.
I dont think he was. His voice was Louis Prima, and they made him act and sound like Louis Prima, and hes Sicilian Italian as were most of his band.
King Louie is a stretch - the whole movie is based around jazz, so they talked like the jazz "hep cats". Louie reminded me of Sammy Davis; not a racist caricature.
@@JTheTeach thank you for pointing this out!
@@JTheTeach pardon my ignorance, but who’s that?
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
Thank you
Now the USA whitewashing history, present and possibly the future everyone’s just accepting it.
Even when we remember history we seem to repeat it?
@@0816M3RC That's because people don't learn from it, they wallow in it. They think that forgiving means forgetting. You can forgive past wrongs and still learn from them. My opinion anyway.
Maybe we could move forward if people wouldn’t hold on to the past so much. I mean people bring up slavery which is outdated
@@nolan4826 Slavery still exists in other countries. Just because it ended in the US, doesn't mean it ended everywhere else.
12:20 The reason things look better the farther you go back in time was because Disney focused used to focus on quality animation up until they stopped making 2D animated movies. Now every animation studio including Disney focuses on cheap animation because it's cost-effective.
The racism in Peter Pan feels intentional. I mean, Tiger Lily’s skin tone looks more like actual Native Americans, but all the others are red as can be. That shows they knew exactly what native Americans look like and made the decision to make them red anyway.
They painted their skin. That is why they were called red skins. Come on man.
Oh they made the love interest look appealing
How quickly you forget. The indians, cuz that's what they are, in Peter Pan are based on what British kids think native Americans are. They're not racial stereotypes, they're just fancy versions of what British kids thought they were.
My paternal grandmother was Kiowa and Peter Pan was actually one of her favorite Disney movies. She loved watching the old cartoons of the 50s and 60s with a high level of tolerance and hoped that one day she would see a proper animation of Native Americans. She got that wish when Pocahontas premiered and while she knew very well that it was not accurate at all, she cried when she saw the characters drawn exactly like her.
The ride splash mountain comes from a story uncle Remus tells.
Yeah
That's why they're supposedly re-branding it.
@@MichaelDavis-bj2bs that’s what I heard
Didn't they still have the "t**baby" scene still in the ride in the early 90's?
@@THETexxStarr They never had that scene on the ride
Yeah, what everyone forgot is that Disney was legit a HUGE animator when it came to talking about the wars. Legit I watched a series of Disney shorts that were produced around that time.
1 thing you HAVE to remember watching these old Disney movies is that they were made in a whole diffrent time period.
....and? That doesn't make it not racist. Haha
@@ernestorodriguez8388 i think it means that there weren't snowflakes at the time.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjenson1095 I think there were definitely people calling it out. The only difference is now people are being held accountable!
@@smittywerbenjagermanjenson1095 nice bait, learn what snowflakes applies to next time though
@@KvngLeroy1 wasnt baiting but okie
You know its the things you never would have thought of as a kid that when you look back when you're older how much you pay more attention to detail.
I'm surprised no one has gone after a Pinocchio yet
and its still just as funny as it was back then
@@buchan448 damn right it is lol
To me as a black man I don’t think that number one is racist because of the time period we’re the movie takes place in is accurate to history.
I agree, however, they should be called out but as long as the viewer isn't offended its ok to watch. It just shouldn't be replicated in today's time
Im more surprised they didn't say the fact brier rabbit punches an insensitive depiction of a black person for not saying hello.
Still makes it racist. Just like a man beating his wife would still be considered wrong whether or not the beating took place when it was still legal to do that. Wrong is wrong.
It's definitely racist however whether you take offense to it is your choice
The fact that it happened and it is depicted is not racist. The whitewashing, showing slaves to be happy, singing in english in a wholesome and content manner, is. It denies the brutality of slavery, therefore casting anyone who would oppose such a happy-go-lucky society, as a crazed, uninformed contrarian.
Disney: I just want to say that I apologize for my actions can y’all forgive me 👁👄👁
Nope sorry, too much bad history. And you just can't erase that much bad history.
I'd be more concerned with Disney being CCP shills, than whether they made some funny Asian jokes. That crap is hilarious. Don't be offended on my behalf. Just stay the f777 away from my constitutional rights and leave my race the hell out of these divide-and-conquer political games.
Another hilarious scene: A Christmas Story (Chinese Restaurant scene). People are way too sensitive and easy to manipulate these days. Sh77's funny, get over it.
They have to apologize for their current antics
A few of these are bad the others were just awesome characters
No need, i find it all funny. You did good.
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They are alread-.... eh Nevermind enjoy your day
Amen
350k subs. Safe to say they made it, especially considering other reaction based channels.
King Louie is voiced by Louie Prima, an Italian singer famous for songs like “pennies from heaven” and his scat singing.
pennies from heaven, how about I aint got nobody?
That wasnt Louis Armstrong, that was Louis Prima that voiced king Louis
Fun fact
When the Sherman brothers, who did the music for all the classic disney movies, spoke to the musician about the part, he exclaimed
"Are you trying to make a monkey out of me?"
They replied laughingly, "yeah"
You kind of have to take in to account the attitudes of the time. Stuff like this shouldn't be censored because then you are portraying an incorrect view of how the past was and it would stop us from seeing how far we have come.
Some were awesome tho
@@doomslayer1210 yer I’m not saying that you can’t enjoy these films. I enjoy them.
yeah but these are kids shows. you are showing children of color this. i dont think a child will go "wow look how far we've come!"
@@idontknowreally2474 I watched them as a kid and I was fine. The racism in these shows is mostly in the forms of stereotypes and the actual race being portrayed is inferred. So it will go over their heads.
Also children of colour really? Your going to use that politically charged term on children now?
I guess there are only two types of kids now the white ones and all the other races neatly packed into a convenient label.
I really hate that term because it seems to portray white people as either the standard race and then there is everyone else or it seems that it’s purposely designed to exclude white people as if they aren’t an equal colour of their own.
I’m not accusing you of being a racist though.
@@lobbyskids2 POC is a respectful term to refer to non-white people? 😕 Any term you use that singles out white people.... well singles them out? But I'm not gonna include white people because I'm not talking to them! Are you gonna say next that saying "LGBTQ+" singles out heterosexuals as a "standard sexuality"?
Also, you can't take your own experience and talk for everybody. You are not everybody.
Dont forget that these shows arent THAT old. that there are still racist stereotypes in half or even more everything today, we havent progressed as much as you think. Keeping the sterotypes just adds them to the list.
I also still stand by what I said, kids wont see it as a "learning point."
Not having good rep and instead using racist sterotypes only says you dont have respect for your POC audience. (even going father, sterotypes for other groups too, (LGBTQ+, women, muslim community, etc)
Sorry for the long message, thank you for your time.
King Louie was voiced by jazz/swing musician Louis Prima, who's Italian American and came out of Louisiana.
That's exactly how he performed, so not racist.
Half this list is BS. She even called the Siamese cats a "Japanese" stereotype.
It’s the people who point out racism that are racist. They are the ones that point and say “if you talk or look like this your that race” they are the ones discriminating and nobody knows that.
Technically it was racist since he's meant to be a mockery of African-American subculture. Especially since he was voiced by a white man. Same reason why Jim Crow from Dumbo is a racist character.
@@vetarlittorf1807 All characters in Disney movies are a mockery and exaggeration of the culture they are depicting. I don't understand why, for instance, Asian characters depicted with slanted eyes are considered racist. They have slanted eyes. How else would they be depicted...with western eyes? Now that would be racist because that would send a message that Asian eyes aren't good enough.
@@blanketstarry7725 There's a difference between animating races accurately and in a stereotypical way. I mean, look at that centaur scene in Fantasia where there's a beautiful, normal-looking white centaur being served by a black centaur with exaggerated features. That is clearly meant to be a mockery of black people and therefore racist.
@@vetarlittorf1807 I agree on that, and many other of the things pointed out in this vid. I disagree on some others and I was using the Asian eyes as an example. That's just how their eyes are and there is nothing racist about that. Of course, in the same scene they do use racist buck teeth, but I've seen people get bent out of shape when it's just the eyes.
As a child I didn't think anything of this, but... HOLY SHIT THIS IS HARD TO WATCH
Lmao
Hard to watch? Lol this shit is hilarious they should make more
People look into it a little to much. It’s a nice art style. I’ve watched Asian cinema,anime and other. I love the art style. Over exaggerating don’t bother me. Also where I’m from everyone’s a stereotypes. Some stereotypes are funny if you’re around them.
@@TV-cv1eb Do you not feel ashamed of yourself? People like you make me want to throw up
@rileymcmanus
Never thought of it either , as you said many of us were trying to live their childhood (whatever we had if some of us had any)
You remember when people didn't have such sensitive skin and the word racist had actual meaning...
I do, ah the good old days. How I miss them.
Don't know what Watchmojo was on but King Louie was in the original Jungle Book novel by R. Kipling.
"INSANELY racist moments"
Also known as innocuous stereotype jokes.
The most racist part is where they called the Siamese cats Japanese stereotypes.
@@manualspiceyapple3788 not even being japanese and they are assuming they are would be racist, right?
I thought Aladdin would be because the only character who actually *looks* Arabic is Jafar, the villain. Aladdin himself was straight up modeled after Tom Cruise, Jennifer Connelly inspired Jasmine. I'd entirely forgotten about the song lol
Random fact: In an original draft of the movie, Aladdin's mom was alive. There was even a song around her called "Proud of Your Boy", which ended up being cut. For some "WTF" reason, that is where the far-right group got their name.
Also, Abu was voiced by Megatron.
Teacher: Alright name me three things that are most likely to be white
Kid: Rica, milk and Disney princesses
Teacher:........ You're right
Princess and the frog?
@@scottiekunkle294 that are most likely to be white
@@trevorghalt1881 ok true
Princess and the frog, Mulan, Jasmin, Moana, Riya... there are plenty of non white disney princesses.
Do people really have an issue with European characters being white? lol
Walt Disney actually hated Jews when he was still alive. As they say, he was a product of his generation. Sad but true
Based
It’s not racist to depict stereotypes. They exist and are perpetuated for a reason. Wether you like it or not people look, talk, and act in a way that characterizes enough of a population to stick with that population for a long time. This magical world where everyone looks acts and sounds the exact same (whatever we decide normal is) to avoid offending anyone sounds far more racist to me.
I loved when Paul Mooney did the bit on the crows from Dumbo.
Ah song of the south...the film disney won't touch with a 30 foot pole
Still won an Academy Award for "Zip-a-dee-doo-dah"
Disney now includes a disclaimer on certain movies and episodes saying that this film/Episode contains unflattering racial depictions that were not ok then and are not ok now. But we're continuing to include them and acknowledge our mistakes in the hope of opening up conversation about these topics so we can grow past..." or something to that effect. I don't know the exact wording.
I wish i was born back in the day where people didnt bitch about stereo types in cartoon movies. It kinda looks like humanity is going down the drain the more people start to focus on racism they even find it at places there isnt any nowadays.... there are cultural differences between where humans are born/raised and people cant mention that now because we live together? Bro i hate emotional thinkers/fake empathy
Divide and conquer, because wiping out all the small businesses and replacing them all with megacorps wasn't enough. They want everything, your identity, your rage, everything.
Shup up reactionary
@@manictiger looks like you don't have a problem with corporatism per se but Capitalism in general, and that's pretty good, I'd suggest looking more into why corporations are bad other than whatever reactionaries tell you why (they want to divide via identity politics and culture wars rather than class solidarity)
@@techissus7449
I'm against corruption and neo-feudalism, not capitalism.
The globalists are trying to warp capitalism into neo-feudalism. Capitalism isn't what they're after, or they wouldn't be creating so much fiat currency.
"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy about it" is their goal. Come to think of it, it sounds exactly like communism.
@@manictiger do you know *why* so many died? There were a multitude of factors, poor communication (the country was literally just building it's communication infastructure to the point the USSR was asking why they were going so slow) to the point they didn't know so many were starving, had they known they could've diverted resources and saved millions (they had more than enough in other regions to feed all). their soil was irregular, and so conventional farming didn't work in certain areas. Not to mention the areas that starved weren't new to this as it was a regular occurrence under the old regeime, it's worth noting this never happened again after the first 5 year plan
i dont think these are rascist moments i think they're more stereotypical moments.
With the Jim Crow and Uncle Remus, you could make a good argument over those being racist, but yeah, the others are more stereotypes.
there literally isn't a difference. stereotypes are, by definition, racist. Regardless of if they're positive or negative.
@@mervynlarrier9424 No, the definition of rascist is thinking that a certain race is above another. Stereotypes are the go to thought you have when thinking of a group of people. Or maybe this video is more prejudice, which isn’t always bad
Yeah, speaking the voice of King Louie while being black isn't racist, his voice would have been fitting for the character. You play a fictional cartoon character. And all humans were monkeys at some time. And if it would be racist for black people so it would be for all other people, too. Or are black people too good for that, Watchmojo? That would be racist. In the end it is a job with a paycheck and we don't see the face of the actor. Watchmojo is known for blowing stuff out of proportions, don't take it too seriously.
@@adriangonzalez3yearsago927 you can't use that definition in reference to art but you can't easily translate racial superiority into art. This cartoon was during anti communsim era and the point of it was degrade the asain people
song of the south had some of the best animation ever, and all hand drawn
And Pinocchio's dad is a stereotype of a German, and Captain Hook is a stereotype of a Spanish pirate. And nobody cares because there's no woke points to gain in crying about white caricatures. Who actually cares? Generations from now people are going to look back at this alarmism over racism and think we're insane.
No one would know that about Captain Hook (he doesn’t even have a Spanish accent) and Giapetto is Italian because the story Pinocchio is literally from Italy before Disney made the movie. This is more than an accent, this is about negative stereotypes like drawing black people to look close to monkeys like that mermaid scene or have a character named Jim Crow be black. And it’s not even about the time period either, the video is literally about racist clips in Disney films.. that’s it. You’re acting like we can’t look back and think of how bad that actually was. It’s history that reminds us not to repeat it and to prevent our kids from growing up seeing themselves interpreted in that light. That’s the whole point of history
the quality of the Disney animation is epic though... Legendary!
Song of the South is during the Reconstruction era. Remember, Uncle Remus left the plantation on his own free will after Johnny’s Mother disapproved of his stories, and he came back once he heard Johnny was struck by the bull.
This. A lot of the issues with song of the south is the way it was written actually hid a lot of details that are super important to understanding that the story isn't as racist as it seems to be starting off.
Song of the South was a passion project for Walt Disney, as it was based on material he had a strong sense of nostalgia over. Now, a film made in the 40s, based on something that was nostalgic to its creator? Yeah, no wonder it did not age well. Disney is trying their damndest to pretend this movie does not even exist. Forget releases on Disney Plus with a content warning, this thing will never be rereleased, ever. Which honestly is a bit of a shame, as some of the fully animated segments are actually really good.
Fun Fact: Shun Gon was voiced by the late Paul Winchell, who also voiced Tigger.
Some "racist" things aren't ACTUALLY racist, by English definition, they're just things said buy an extra soft "woke" person who's offended by everything
There were four black centaurettes in the Pastoral Symphony scene. There was Sunflower, pictured there, another, similar to her, that is called Otika (different hairstyle than Sunflower), then there were two zebra-bodied centaurettes who acted as servants to Bacchus. They actually designed male and female ones, but only two females made it to the final film.
Louis Prima (who voiced King Louis) was also a Jazz musician/band leader, at the time. I'd imagine he was familiar with Jive.
Never seen "Song of the South" because Disney has BURIED that in the vault and refuses to let it out
We gon ignore king louie looks like lanky kong?
Absolutely none of these things are racist. What, you want every single character in your movie to look, sound, and act like a white person? Besides, most of those characters weren't exactly the bad guys. Hell, aside from his own mother and Timothy, those crows were like the only characters who were ever nice to Dumbo. And as for Song of the South, two things:
1. People who slam that movie are completely missing the point; which is that stories can be used as a means of helping people get through rough times. That's the reason why Uncle Remus is in such high spirits. Times are rough (to say the least), but he has those stories to help cheer him up and he feels good when he has an audience to tell them to.
2. The actor who played Uncle Remus was the first black male actor to receive an Academy Award; which was for his work on that movie. So banning that movie is doing him and the black community a disservice.
There’s no way you actually said none of these are racist you must be either a racist yourself or just incredibly stupid. No one said they had to act like “white people” they should just act like a normal fucking human being instead of building them off of racist stereotypes and honestly what does it mean to act like a white person? You’re honestly a disgusting person
The racist stereotypes of indigenous people is pretty messed up, considering I’m indigenous myself it tends to piss me off seeing how they depicted us. Bright red skin, giant noses, drunks, bandannas with a feather in it & making that stupid noise when nowhere in history did indigenous tribes never made those sounds.
See this is why I like these guys they give a you a satisfying response to it all keep moving forward as human beings😃👌
Wanerbros still put things like this out. They put a notice on the beginning saying it might offend but it's a product of it's time and history shouldn't be ignored.
Uncle Remus isn't racist. This is one of those cases where doing your research pays off.
No he’s not racist, but he’s a stereotypical character Disney wants to put! Btw if you’re dumbo isn’t racist (I know you didn’t mention it) but dumbo is highly racist for one reason and one reason only, actually 2! For the crows! Did you know that the person that who acts as the leader crow aka Jim Crow, IS WHITE?! Yes the crows were nice and friendly and honestly they were my favorites until I researched some shit and like they said, that doesn’t change the fact that it’s extremely offensive to black people including myself! I cry at that scene more than the baby mine scene. And remember the hammer and working song from dumbo? Well if you hear the lyrics “we work all day we work all night, we never learn to read it right we’re happy hearted roustabouts” and so on and so forth and ALL of the workers were African Americans! And the animals were there too, but still.....you’re gonna tell me that’s not racist?
My point is Walter Elias Disney wasn’t a bad person, but we was extremely racist and made a joke out of animal cruelty if you take a real close look at dumbo and it’s story. And also I read an article saying that uncle Remus is an Uncle Tom joke!
Do you even know who Uncle Tom is?
And btw some people might say dumbo isn’t supported animal cruelty, it’s showing that it’s an actual thing and it should stop and maybe I agree with that..... but the racist stuff in cartoons? They wouldn’t allow that today.
My history teacher played Native American looney toons💀 (I was right infront of his desk)
4:42 its like saying its racist for a black man to play black panther.
Dude that's racist
@@bobherobrine3415 no its not
@@bobherobrine3415 tell me how
No, black panther isn't racist
While I and my friends agree on some of these being stereotypical in a malignant sense (the Japanese portrayal in Commando Duck for example and the black centaur), we agree that these days people are aware, even kinda hyper aware, of these kinda things and as soon as something is seen as stereotypical it is automatically "Baaad". Let me give an example of a neutral stereotype: "Ach, laddie". I said that to someone I learned was from Scotland as a light joke, didn't mean anything bad with it, and he took mild offense. Not because it was offensive, but it was stereotypical. Now, in that case it was subjective as someone else I know simply rolled their eyes with a smile at silly foreigners and took no offense.
Thing is, there are charming and attractive aspects of different peoples and cultures that people like to make neutral stereotypes of, not to be racists or anything like that, but because they like them. Look at Star Wars the Clone Wars series. In it we have quite a few races depicted in various ways and speaking with different accents. Are these meant to be stereotypes because of that? The native speakers may or may not decide so as it is entirely subjective, but we all ought to know that they were never meant to be stereotypical in nature, but simply to add diversity to a big and populated galaxy. Or perhaps the Star Wars galaxy is one big stereotype of mankind herself.
I grew up on Disney film such as The Jungle Book and I never once bought into the whole racism thing surrounding the portrayal of King Louie and his gang. My thought, as a kid, was that because it took place in Africa (I later learned it was actually in India), it made sense they cast at least one who has roots there, or so I was taught anyway. Aside from that, King Louie is a beloved character for a reason, (him being funny and charming, like real apes, being key reasons) and his later depiction (largely unchanged) in Talespin as a close friend and "cousin" character to Baloo's seems to promote friendship and equality rather than anything else.
Want to talk stereotypes? Look at the Lion King. Rafiki is a stereotypical black native shaman, but that doesn't stop be from liking him nor does it make me think low of black people in any way. Mufasa was voice by James "Darth Vader" Earl Jones. His mighty voice for Mufasa can be seen as stereotypical since he's African-American but I am too in awe of it to care. Zazu is the stereotypical British Butler/Adjutant but British people I know don't give a hoo-haa about it. And is no one going to point out that an obviously white adjutant is serving a black guy in this film? That's a win for equality.
No, the fact that this is a very African themed movie makes pretty much all stereotypes, whether you perceive them to be neutral or bad, moot, no more than that, it makes everything fitting the theme instead.
Native Americans being depicted as red to me is because they were tribes people (I do not know whether they are tribes today or not so any Native Americans reading this, please forgive me if that was in error), living a simple yet at the same time tough life with nature. This meant spending a lot of time in the sun and thus getting a good sunburn. To me that is common sense, not racism. As for the song and such in the Peter Pan movie, I would teach my kids that these indians are singing only of themselves, as in the indians of Never Never Land. Real Indians, or rather the Native Americans, they'd have to look into themselves.
And don't you think there are stereotypes they have of white men or westerners right back? I chose to view such things are ridiculous or funny, I just get unhappy if I take offense and it wont make a difference if I do.
I live in Sweden, and within Scandinavia we have stereotypes and jokes about one another. Some might be a tad offensive in nature but I don't tell them kinds of jokes. But we are all aware of the jokes and we still can laugh with each other about it. I once worked in Norway and I was to receive a piece of paper containing some information I needed, but I received the one from the day before by mistake and I pointed this out and once I got the right one I said: "See, us Swedes are only half as stupid as you think we are ;)" and we all laughed at that.
So, my bottom line is this; do yourselves a favor and learn to see the difference between bad stereotypes and neutral stereotypes. And once you do, learn to take the neutral ones in stride, especially the ones not even directed at you. You are likely to live a slightly easier and happier life doing so.
Yeah... look, we need to stop calling them "Native Americans". Anyone born in North America is a "Native American" by definition of "Native" and besides that, my "Native American" ancestors came here from Asia some 10,000 to 25,000 years ago, so calling them "Native Americans" makes 0 sense.
I think all of this stuff should be preserved for the future. It's a part of history, a very uncomfortable and frankly, evil part but also quite important. They say those who forget past mistakes are liable to repeat them, after all. These clips could actually be really useful for history classes (particularly in America but also in many other countries) to provide examples of what the world used to be like and what we want to avoid ever happening again. Of course, they'd need a disclaimer and some background information for context, that goes without saying. We need to make it clear to the viewer that these clips are being presented specifically as a historical document and cautionary tale. However, if handled correctly, it could work and be very beneficial.
Here’s a guy who gets it
I did not know in the part of the "When i see an elephant fly" that there were stereotypical black speech.... i just watched and just stared there and enjoyed the movie.... i thought it was like "thats how people speak because crows can't talk"... now im seeing it in a new light
3:45 as much as people say it’s “bad” king Louie was my favorite character in the jungle book, and had one of the catchiest songs
back in a time were no one bat an eye about things to bad we got to senstive these days that people get to offended at everything it has even got so far that people who are not part of the group complain about how a group got offended and now they are killing the voice act industry by replacing good actors with bad ones just becausethey did not have same color as the character they made whats next will not people be allowed voice animals in cartoons anymore because that offends animals.. sorry to rant i just think the world becomes so pathetic in recent years
They even complain when the voice actor is the same race as the character. Like the comedian Fluffy is voicing Speedy Gonzales in the new Space Jam and the woke people are screaming racist. There is no pleasing those people.
King Louie wasn’t racist, he was played by Louis Prima, a jazz musician, and king Louie, and they were playing jazz.
And the Siamese cats aren’t Japanese, they’re Siamese.
No he was lanky Kong
People back then wouldn't make or care about the distinction.
@@scifigirl7004 I’m not saying the cats weren’t racist I’m pointing out that Wathmojo got it’s facts wrong.
You can still find Song of the South on the internet. Our church youth group went to see it in the theater in Sherman, TX in 1980. I'm glad y'all have never seen it.
Some additional info on the racism of the animation studios, specifically to indigenous people is the fact that most native American/indigenous women in movies where sexualized. Meaning they were drawn with less clothing not accurate to their culture or shown to be acting sexually to other characters, mostly the main character(s). for example, tiger Lily from Peter pan, Pocahontas from Pocahontas, Chel from road to El dorado and kida from atlantis the lost empire.
If anyone wants me to go into more detail I'm happy to I like spreading awareness bout this topic
When I was a kid when I first saw Dumbo, and I saw that part, I didn’t really think much of it other than they were entertaining singing crows. I just liked how awesome they were Because they sing so well and they seemed so cool. I thought they carried the movie. But it’s sad to realize the overall stereotypes and the connotations behind these characters.
The stereotypes are somewhat justified with context though because many black performers in those time is who the crowd were based off of so it’d be like when in zootopia they have an animal played by sharkia behave like how shakira does in a jungle setting but is it racist because she’s Colombian or accurate to the celebrity it’s based off of. Same with Chechen and Ching in that film, stereotypes based off individuals are just caricatures but based a whole group is bigoted
Plus, the godfather shrew could be seen as an Italian stereotype.
Yikes, I’m not surprised lol
King Louie actually wasn't racist. He was played by popular jazz singer Louis Prima. Louis was an Itallian singer from New Orleans who took inspiration from many black musicians like Louis Armstrong because he often frequented Itallian Jazz clubs where him and many of the black musicians played together. So it was reflected in his style of music and this was just how he talked and sang.
The wolf in the three little pigs is a stereotype of a Jewish salesman in case you two are wondering.
And people wonder why Disney is so “woke” now. Course they take that too far.
Out of curiosity what is Disney doing that is too far in regards to wokeness?
@@andreja9425 1. Trading proper storytelling for the sake of inclusivity and pandering to specific viewpoints (Captain Marvel, Mulan, Star Wars sequels).
2. Contributing to cancel culture by firing people for unintentional comments or voicing their own opinions and views (Gina Carson, James Gunn, etc.)
@@JDog2656 Gina Carano was fired for a good reason (Disney asked her to stop tweeting insensitive stuff, which she said sure. But of course, she didn’t stop), and James Gunn was rehired. So... no
@Jeremy G Dang did you have my reply removed? shame you couldn’t handle it
@@andreja9425 What?! No! Must have been someone else.
Imagine growing up with these being your 7AM cartoons in a time where that kind of assholery was openly accepted and encouraged
Couldn't be me
This comment was made by the 2002 watching Sonic X gang
Respect
Periodt
And 2003 TMNT!!!
This is the calmest yall ever bern in a video
Anyone that knows ANYTHING about Disney and its past knows its anything BUT clean and wholesome.
Bro they getting mad at WW2 propaganda
Honestly while the asian wartime ones and the black ones like the Santa and centaur ones were pretty bad
All the others I don't see as racist really, like stereotypical which can be offensive to some but most of the characters they say are racist were characters most people thought were cool and were liked. King Louie and the Siamese cats while kinda bad guys aren't made out as bad because of the race they may depict, and even then their songs are great and the characters are considered good bad guys.
Whereas the Indians in Peter Pan, The asian cat in The Aristocats, and the Crows from Dumbo while again being stereotypical were good guys and were liked by both the characters in the movies and the fans of the movies. Not because they are stereotypes to make fun of but because they are seen as cool characters. Sure you can laugh at the stereotypes which could be seen as being a racist but like at the same time most kids still liked the characters innocently.
As a black man, the crows from dumbo were my favourites, even when I know they are racist
The uncle Remus song was played during riding the splash mountain ride. I shocked that was number 1 though
Good video, I will always retain the opinion that racism CAN be funny, when done correctly. Some of these older videos might have pushed the line on it though.
I’m Indian decent, Cherokee, and I simply don’t care, just a movie 🤷♂️
Exactly
To me, the real issue is if its being done as mockery. The japanese scenes in cartoons in the 40s were done as racist mockeries of our wartime enemies. But I dont think king louie could be considered the same way. Yes there are unfortunate implications, but its not being done on the level of that mammy doll. I think that should be the main question when deciding to be offended by something, "what was the intent of this bit?" If its being done to insult or deride the group, then by all means, demand its removal. That chopstick piano playing cat for instance, that was clear and obvious mockery. The siamese cats in lady and the tramp? Not so much.
Disney trying to bury Song of the South right next to the Ark of the Covenant
I don’t want to think of King Loui as racist because he’s so lovable.
Can you guys pls react to “Prosecutors sends innocent black man to jail, and lives to regret it” by dhar mann i know aaron is gonna get mad by watching this so i would love to see your reaction
As a native, I don't find the song from Peter Pan or the name Redskins as offensive. I mean "What makes the Red man red" is stupid but not something I feel like oppressed against
When I was a kid, I thought the crows in Dumbo just talk funny but still catchy
Tbh Disney is still racist af. Hidden under that thinly veiled holier than thou attitude. But man... those old cartoons were BAAAD
Well at least we can learn from the pasts mistakes, and not hold on to it forever and move on to a better future
Finding racism for the sake of finding racism where racism doesn't exist because racism.
From Wikipedia:
“In recognition of his portrayal of (Uncle Remus), (James Baskett) was given an Honorary Academy Award, making him the first black male performer to receive an Oscar. Despite his leading role, Baskett was not considered for a competitive Academy Award for Best Actor or Best Supporting Actor.”
It’s a shame that Disney will not allow his performance to be seen because of their own mistakes. They should own up to it the way Warner Brothers does and release it with a disclaimer. They are erasing African American history in an attempt to hide their past racism.
The last one was THE worst one... and I know for a fact that they played that uncut version for kids everywhere in daycares and elementary schools before people objected enough where Disney removed it permanently from everywhere.
If you actually bothered to research the film, you'd realize how good it is and that by hiding it away you are demonstrating racism toward the actors and actresses that starred in it.
6:42 I’m Native American and I’m not that red!! In fact my family is quite pale! Why did they make them so red? Sure when I get sunburned I look like a lobster, but this is a whole other share of red!
Its actually really disturbing where the term "redskins" come from, although the warriors handprint is red, it actually comes from way back to when the Europeans came and conquered our land, their were bounties set up for any Native Americans who were causing a lot of trouble (obviously to fight back against the colonizers ways), they would send people out to kill who ever was wanted and had to bring back the scalp of that native in order to prove that he or she killed him/her, hence, thats where redskin came from.
@@Plaugonic 😳 slightly disturbing and interesting information. I just always thought Native Americans were called that because we have a slight red coloring in our skin
@@stellastargazer1972 I wished that was true, though it might have a little bit to do with that, its mainly because of what i said. Sorry to disturb you.
@@Plaugonic it’s fine I’ve heard worse ^w^
1:13 they attacked us lol this was Disney's revenge lmao
As a Cherokee...I never found the Indians in Peter Pan racist...If I didn't stay indoors as often as I do, I turn beat red...And I mean long term. I used to work as a Landscaping and Irrigation handyman and during those years I was just as red as they were depicted...
Secondly, in the Aristocrats scene from the song Everybody Wants to be a Cat, the Asian cat even says he is gonna play Chopsticks (the piano music) with Chopsticks (eating utensils) and comes up with that rhyme on the fly as most of the lyrics are "Improvisations" (From the movies perspective). The kids get in on it, the adults, they all take turns just adding lyrics...the horse, the goose grandpa...
Let's be real people...If you want to find something offensive you can go out of your way to find it. Sure some of these were rough, but it was a different time and while they aren't acceptable to replicate these days, these movies are classics and don't need censorship...Adults and Kids can look at Jim Crow and be like "That shit is racist..." And enjoy the rest of the movie, Hell even enjoy the character as he is a pretty likable one.
You know, I've never seen song of the south, but the clips alone scares me!
Walt Disney, the man named after the whole company, was racist c:
Racist*
Yes he was
Everyone was actually
@@hungryferret9806 yea i can't spell ;-;
Disney would be so screwed if they had the same idea when these shows were relisesed and then aired them today. They would get so many lawsuits and so many people would get them canceled.
Thats why the dont.
They were made in a time where it was normal and everybody talked like that.
Go 100 year back in time, and is even worse.
11:45 The Jewish peddler in the 3 little pigs is crazy
Sometimes it's so hilarious that i can't hold my laugh
I'm so sorry 😂
All far in love and warfare, so I'd give all the cartoons made during wartime a pass since it's actually meant to dehumanize the enemy and not out of misguided or ignorant views.
Still non excusable.
@@akirachiyoko2134 In the next major war you'll see the same thing repeating on both sides, ever watch the Vietnam or Korean cartoons portraying Americans as literal invading capitalist pigs or cold blooded wolfs? While I don't really believe all is fair in love, war is war and the past shows sides accusing the other of any number of dehumanizing lies, one example being cannibalism.
@@anonco1907 I have. Still non excusable.
In TNMNT the movie there's a scene where Michaelangelo was watching a cat playing a piano with chopsticks
Can't believe they dont know about song of the south smh I think EVERY one should know how heinous disney IS
As a child i loved the crows
I've never seen any racism in them. But maybe it's because i'm not american
They are still legends and dumbo is one of my favorite movies
With king louie, i'd say eye of the beholder. I like the king orangutan and the actual orangutan is a very intelligent creature that i believe can one day become equal to human intelligence. They learned to mimic human behavior, i believe they'll be a step closer to take human's place.
1:15 I'm from asia and I don't see any problem from that specialy when it was created during ww2. So the reaction of the UA-camrs offended me a little bit because it was like making the Japanese during that time look innocent.
More movies to get a hold of before they disappear forever, thanks.