So happy I found this. You're website is a favourite too. Although, I'm not so happy about being old enough to know what the containers are that you used, without explaining. Best explanation on the Web.
Oh my goodness, you are my hero. I spent several years trying to muddle my way through the process, reading books and watching vague videos. I finally gave up just before the pandemic. Thank you for this! Question: what is the benefit of making different glues of different strengths?
Thank you for the great video. Off topic …. Is there a reputable online resource to learn about frame buying? I know very little about identifying high quality frames and knowing if I’m paying the right amount and what to look for. Thank you.
That took me a long time of working on frames to be able to recognise a good one, but I have no idea of prices. This could help you learn about frames theframeblog.com/about/
Ok...I had never heard of de-ionized water before today...I've been using distilled water! I looked it up and the de-ionized water I can get here has a "bittering agent" added to it to discourage silly people from drinking it. Would this make it unsuitable for gilding?
@@ConcreteBombDeep we don't eat many rabbits anymore, so its harder to get hold of. The pack I'm using is genuine rsg. Sometimes the cheaper stuff acts a bit off, giving an orange peel look to the gesso and bole.
Not to make rabbit skin glue. The only thing I can think is, they are referring to gilding water. I use to use meths in that, but I was taught very badly! I now use isopropanol alcohol. Meths can be an issue because of the dye in it.
Ruth, thank you for your videos! I see another person has asked a similar question so forgive me for asking... when I purchase RSG here in the USA it either comes very fine (like table salt) or as pellets that are more like peppercorns. Given the two grades, 1T (or film canister in your case) each have different weights, and as a result my mixtures can vary quite a bit. Can you share the weight of 1 film canister of RSG flakes? Thank you!
When I get back to the workshop this weekend. I'll do that for you. I hadn't realised about the bigger bits, that would make a big difference. I'll weigh the RSG and measure out the water in ml or should that be fl oz 😁
@@RuthTappinGilder Super! I really appreciate that. I usually only gild a few projects each year, but for some reason this time I've had some trouble with small cracks in the gesso, and so I realize I need to get more precise with my measurements. Thank you!
You explain everything and you make them seem so simple 👍👍👍 I would like to ask You put a ratio 1/8 glue to deionised water But what is the ratio per weight??? Is it important to have the ratio per weight????
I do it by ratio because that can be any amount of glue. I use a lot so make up a big batch. But someone may want much less glue. So can measure out using a bottle cap and still end up with the right strenth.
Dear Ruth. Many thanks for the fast reply!! I buy sprayed gesso mouldings for my picture frames and I’m trying Kölner gesso bole prior to water gilding. I’m still on a big learning curve but your videos have been a huge help and inspiration.
A silly question ... I'm older than dirt Yank, that now lives in Australia and used to Gold leaf letter boats, cars and motorcycles back in the 60's in Michigan. I also did some reverse gold leaf and floating painted imaged reversed floating it with gelatin on glass ... I want to do some chip glass.... bought the glue and the temps you gave... are they in Celsius or Fahrenheit? thanks....
I just started following your channel. In woodwork I use hide glue. Is this the same? Sure looks so. I use a baby bottle warmer to heet the hide glue and keep it at that temp.
Animal glue or pearl glue is made with lots of bits from the animal. Rabbit skin glue is just made from skin. And that's what you need for gesso and bole. You could also use parchment glue.
@@alashibany168 if you can't get hold of the gelatin capsules are gelatin sheets available? You should use gelatin for gilding on glass. Rabbit skin glue may work, not sure though?
To my knowledge, rabbit skin glue is still 100% made from rabbits. I don't know what makes you think the opposite but if you have references please share :)
In the UK it's no longer made from rabbits. It's now gelatin from animals. There is no longer a trade in rabbit meat like there use to be so no skin. A quick Google search found www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2013/04/10/rabbit-skin-glue-2/ Which country are you from, would be interested in getting hold of some RSG that is made of rabbits to see if there is a difference. I believe Spain still makes it that way.
@@RuthTappinGilder wow, thank you for the reference. I was totally wrong. Very interesting. I'm Italian and here I believe it's still made from rabbits, but now I'm not so sure anynmore, lol
@@darkdogstudios there my dyslexia kicking in, not reading things! I'll have to find out. I know the last RSG wasn't 'real' Bit jealous of you nice glass muller plate, mine is way too small. 😁
@@RuthTappinGilder yes, now I just need a bigger muller! 😆 I enjoyed your video thank you, I’m making gessoed boards, to hopefully try silverpoint drawing on. I got some marbledust from a sculptor friend, so I’m trying that with the RSG. I sieved it dry, but I think maybe filtering as you showed, maybe more successful!
Your videos are a treasure. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your knowledge.
You have demystified this proess for me. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Your welcome 😊
So happy I found this. You're website is a favourite too. Although, I'm not so happy about being old enough to know what the containers are that you used, without explaining. Best explanation on the Web.
Brava ruth
Oh my goodness, you are my hero. I spent several years trying to muddle my way through the process, reading books and watching vague videos. I finally gave up just before the pandemic. Thank you for this!
Question: what is the benefit of making different glues of different strengths?
@@Thebladeandbriarthanks 😊
You want a stranger glue (less water) for gesso and a weaker glue for bole.
@@RuthTappinGilder Hello Ruth! As usual, incredible video. Would you agree with 8/1 -regular gesso, 9/1 - first layer of gesso and 10/1 - bole?
@@m.m.375 on the bole pot it recommend 13-1 I use 12-1
@@RuthTappinGilder thanks! I’m going to be making my own bole from dry clay so this is a helpful tip 🙏🏻
@m.m.375 I've never made it from dry. But I know some gilders use a rock tumbler for a few days with the dry bole and sone water to get it to a paste.
Are the little measures 35m film canisters? Yes, I am THAT old. xxxx
😄 me too!
35mm film canisters?
Spot on 👍
Thank you for the great video. Off topic …. Is there a reputable online resource to learn about frame buying? I know very little about identifying high quality frames and knowing if I’m paying the right amount and what to look for. Thank you.
That took me a long time of working on frames to be able to recognise a good one, but I have no idea of prices. This could help you learn about frames theframeblog.com/about/
@@RuthTappinGilder Thank you so much for the info and fast reply. I’ll check the link you shared.
Ok...I had never heard of de-ionized water before today...I've been using distilled water! I looked it up and the de-ionized water I can get here has a "bittering agent" added to it to discourage silly people from drinking it. Would this make it unsuitable for gilding?
Keep using the distilled water. 😁
Why is it not made of rabbits anymore? I just made hide glue for the first time with dog rawhide (cattle) but apparently rabbit is the best?
@@ConcreteBombDeep we don't eat many rabbits anymore, so its harder to get hold of. The pack I'm using is genuine rsg. Sometimes the cheaper stuff acts a bit off, giving an orange peel look to the gesso and bole.
Could i use hide glue pellets (which i have already)?
It may be too strong if it's not rabbit hide glue. Definitely not if it's pearl glue.
@@RuthTappinGilder thank you. I will try and get hold of some rabbit skin glue.
I have read in other sites ,that you have to add methylated spirit...Why..and..what's this for ?Thank you and I truly am interested in your videos.
Not to make rabbit skin glue. The only thing I can think is, they are referring to gilding water. I use to use meths in that, but I was taught very badly! I now use isopropanol alcohol. Meths can be an issue because of the dye in it.
@@RuthTappinGilder Yes correct..it's mixed with gilding water...thanks
Hi!
Do use the rabbit skin glue to seal bare wood? First that glue and then the gesso on top and lastly the bole?
Yes that's right. 😁
@@RuthTappinGilder Perfect. So when I seal with the glue, it should make a film over the bare wood?
@@MKWHD not really, it will soak into the wood, which Is what you want it to do.
@@RuthTappinGilder Great! Thanks. ✌️
@@RuthTappinGilder is that why you use the 12:1 ratio?
Ruth, thank you for your videos! I see another person has asked a similar question so forgive me for asking... when I purchase RSG here in the USA it either comes very fine (like table salt) or as pellets that are more like peppercorns. Given the two grades, 1T (or film canister in your case) each have different weights, and as a result my mixtures can vary quite a bit. Can you share the weight of 1 film canister of RSG flakes? Thank you!
When I get back to the workshop this weekend. I'll do that for you. I hadn't realised about the bigger bits, that would make a big difference. I'll weigh the RSG and measure out the water in ml or should that be fl oz 😁
So the little pot contains 20g of RSG 0.705oz and one pot of water is 33ml 1.116 us fl oz
So if you want to make 8-1
20g of RSG and 264ml of water.
@@RuthTappinGilder Super! I really appreciate that. I usually only gild a few projects each year, but for some reason this time I've had some trouble with small cracks in the gesso, and so I realize I need to get more precise with my measurements. Thank you!
Oh, right. I just made my first batch using the finer US RSG. How will I know if the strength is too aggressive or weak for gesso?
You explain everything and you make them seem so simple 👍👍👍
I would like to ask
You put a ratio 1/8 glue to deionised water
But what is the ratio per weight???
Is it important to have the ratio per weight????
I do it by ratio because that can be any amount of glue. I use a lot so make up a big batch. But someone may want much less glue. So can measure out using a bottle cap and still end up with the right strenth.
@@RuthTappinGilder so you make glue with high density in order to make it weaker if you want by adding water?
@@ΗΛΙΑΣΚΟΥΤΣΟΥΚΟΣ the more water you add the weaker the glue gets. I make up the strength I need for each job.
I prefer to make my gilding water with gelatine capsules. Ruth, is this OK? Thank you so much for your great videos, you've save my sanity!!
Gelatin is usually for glass gilding. But I know people who do use it for water gilding.
Dear Ruth. Many thanks for the fast reply!! I buy sprayed gesso mouldings for my picture frames and I’m trying Kölner gesso bole prior to water gilding. I’m still on a big learning curve but your videos have been a huge help and inspiration.
I think for chipping glass it’s around 2.5:1 RSG. If I remember right…
A silly question ... I'm older than dirt Yank, that now lives in Australia and used to Gold leaf letter boats, cars and motorcycles back in the 60's in Michigan. I also did some reverse gold leaf and floating painted imaged reversed floating it with gelatin on glass ... I want to do some chip glass.... bought the glue and the temps you gave... are they in Celsius or Fahrenheit? thanks....
Temps are in celsius. 60'c would be 140'f
@@RuthTappinGilder i'm old...lol...thank you.
I read you can use GAC 100 in place of rabbit skin glue, is this true?
Not sure what that is, but if it's synthetic then no. You could use parchment glue.
@@RuthTappinGilder wow ok thank you so much. ❤❤
I just started following your channel. In woodwork I use hide glue. Is this the same? Sure looks so.
I use a baby bottle warmer to heet the hide glue and keep it at that temp.
Thanks for the follow. Good tip with the baby bottle. RSG is a hide glue but I thinks it's a little weaker.
Granules? I thought you were going to show us how to make rabbit skin glue?😅 no rendering?
dear friend, thank you for all video . . . im ask aboit rabbit skin glue same animals glue or different . . . with my best wishes
Animal glue or pearl glue is made with lots of bits from the animal. Rabbit skin glue is just made from skin. And that's what you need for gesso and bole. You could also use parchment glue.
@@RuthTappinGilder i need to use for gilding on glass . need glue high transparents
@@RuthTappinGilder like gelatine capsuls but not available in my country
@@alashibany168 if you can't get hold of the gelatin capsules are gelatin sheets available? You should use gelatin for gilding on glass. Rabbit skin glue may work, not sure though?
@@RuthTappinGilder thank you Ruth
Another good 'un thanks
RSG no longer made from rabbits. Well that's what happens if you're last in the 3.30 at kempton Park.
Great videos. What strength RSG do you use when making compo?
Rabbit skin glue is the wrong glue for compo. It should be pearl glue.
You can go 60 to 63
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container might be from an old camera roll >D
They used to contain 35mm film canisters
Just for a split second, I thought you where about to drink the glue, comming out of the micro wave.... 🤣
To my knowledge, rabbit skin glue is still 100% made from rabbits. I don't know what makes you think the opposite but if you have references please share :)
In the UK it's no longer made from rabbits. It's now gelatin from animals. There is no longer a trade in rabbit meat like there use to be so no skin.
A quick Google search found www.jacksonsart.com/blog/2013/04/10/rabbit-skin-glue-2/
Which country are you from, would be interested in getting hold of some RSG that is made of rabbits to see if there is a difference. I believe Spain still makes it that way.
@@RuthTappinGilder wow, thank you for the reference. I was totally wrong. Very interesting. I'm Italian and here I believe it's still made from rabbits, but now I'm not so sure anynmore, lol
So the fact that it clearly says “genuine” rabbitskin glue on the packet is a bit confusing! 🤨
@@darkdogstudios there my dyslexia kicking in, not reading things! I'll have to find out. I know the last RSG wasn't 'real'
Bit jealous of you nice glass muller plate, mine is way too small. 😁
@@RuthTappinGilder yes, now I just need a bigger muller! 😆 I enjoyed your video thank you, I’m making gessoed boards, to hopefully try silverpoint drawing on. I got some marbledust from a sculptor friend, so I’m trying that with the RSG. I sieved it dry, but I think maybe filtering as you showed, maybe more successful!
35mm film tins...lol
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