To those who say that anything that can be done with a polarizer filter can be done in Photoshop: Good luck trying to achieve the same results when doing tide pool work or any work when shooting through water! I guess the question becomes: Are you a photographer or a Photoshop editor? I prefer to uses photographic tools in the field and then use Photoshop to prepare my images for display.
The only effect of a polarizer that can´t be reproduced in post is cutting glare i.e. when shooting through water or windows, everything else can be done in post pretty easily.
It would seem to me that with the polarized filter cutting the glare that you will get a cleaner photo and you can probably do even more with in post .
I'm glad I came across this video - years later! I plan on taking my DSLR camera and new polarizer filter up in the mountains tomorrow for great pics/videos for my UA-cam channel.
These days, with high shutter speeds and image stabilization available in almost every newer camera, you can essentially leave a high quality circular polarizer on your lenses about 80% to 90% of the time when shooting outside and even inside sometimes. At most it might cost you 1 stop or so, but I find the convenience to be well worth it. When I first started photography as a hobby, I loved using all sorts of attachments to enhance my photographs, but now, 35 years later, the less I have to mess with the camera (except for focus and exposure, of course), the better. Oh, and I don't use Photoshop either, except on rare and very specific occasions. It's a wonderful product but I think that not depending on it forces you to use your best creative abilities before taking the shot. To each, his own, I suppose.
+Andrea Thode Brought to you objectively by B and H, a company that has no interest in selling polarizers? I think the need for polarizers depends on the specific situation. I've had pictures enhanced through polarization and some ruined by polarization. They can be used occasionally if done correctly. In my opinion they are overrated, but they have a place in some situations.
+Andrea Thode Tony Northrup's video was intended for beginners, who need to develop technique rather than splurging on gear. That video shows *alternative methods* to acquiring the same (in most cases) or similar shot. It does not explicitly tell you to throw out all your filters...
I'm new to photography/ video... Do all the polarized lens have a rotational rings? I saw a $15 one on Amazon but no reviews. Or should I just buy the Globe $80 kits?
What are your or other people's thoughts or experiences with using circular polarizers with ultra wide lenses, specifically the rokinon (samyang) 12mm?
I do swimwear test shots at the beach (Miami Beach, Fl), which polarizes filter would you recommend me? I saw another photographer using one of them, it was a B+W but didn't have the chance to see the specifications. Thank you for your help. I use a Batis 85mm and planning to get the 70-200mm f/2.8 for my Sony A7RII camera. @bandh
+GS Wing Nut Circular polarizers and linear polarizers are different in a few ways. Linear polarizers should only be used with film cameras and only block certain orientations of plane polarized light. For example, at one orientation, it may allow the passage of vertically polarized light, but if rotated 90 degrees, it would allow the polarization of horizontally polarized light. This differs from a circular polarizer, which can be used with digital and film cameras, and is made of two elements - a linear polarizer, and a quarter wave plate. The quarter wave plate is fused to the back of the linear polarizer and oriented in a way that makes the light hitting the filter circularly polarized. This is important, as the intensity of reflection from partially reflecting surfaces is dependent on the angle of polarization, and the partially reflecting surfaces includes the mirror inside of your camera. While older film cameras use a fully reflecting mirror, newer SLRs and digital cameras use a partially reflecting mirror, so the intensity of transmitted light will affect the meter reading. When you use a circular polarizer, the polarized light is reflected with intensity that is independent from the angle of the filter, so metering errors are eliminated. |Heather|
B+W is a brand name. The difference between B+W filters and filters from other manufacturers would be their proprietary designs and/or construction of the filters. The use of a polarizer filter from any brand would be relatively similar, as they are all designed to polarize light in the same manner. However, each brand may have different types or number of coatings depending on the specific filter line, the material and thickness/thinness of the filter ring, and/or other properties of the specific filter design. Multi-coatings are not a necessity. They are a feature, and often recommended, but it is not a necessity (the filter will work without coatings or with a single coating). Coatings on filters are designed to reduce flare, glare, and internal reflections that can reduce contrast, sharpness, or image quality. Other coatings can strengthen the glass, or can make it harder for water and oil to adhere to the filter. As stated, multi-coatings are not a necessity, and there are filters without coatings, but they are often sought after for their beneficial properties and benefits to the overall image quality and/or ease of cleaning the filter.
I would suggest looking at a circular polarizer from B+W or Hoya: they make some of the better filters on the market. I would also suggest looking at a multicoated filter as they are less likely to cause ghosting or flare. That being said, we would need to know the exact lens you are using to make specific recommendations. You could send us an email with this information and we could respond with some recommendations. *Christina* AskUA-cam@bhphoto.com
It is possible to use a circular polarizer with a lens hood attached. Some lenses offer hood with a retractable window in order to control the filter. Other lenses like long telephoto primes would have a circular polarizer that can be inserted towards the back of the lens with a dial to control it. Otherwise, lens with none of these functions would require the adjustment of the filter to be made before attaching the hood.
You can use a polarizing filter at night, but be aware that doing so will effectively block one to two stops of light which will necessitate opening the aperture and/or using a slower shutter speed. >Mark
Hihave a question about ND variable filter and the Polarizer. ND variable Filter reduces steps of light, but it neither cut nor control undesired reflections and haze. In the contrary, the polarizer will reduce two step of light as the max, but will not substitute ND. Combining them could make an improvement under some circumstances. I know that if stacking the ND in front of the pola won't work. Primordially, this is a technique used in photography. But It could work for filmmaking only under some outdoor circumstances. Would you agree?
cpl were made for auto because the metering system for autofocus (in dslr and most cameras) uses a beam splitter that also polarizes light. Cpl is actually a linear polarizer with a quarter wavelength film behind it, so light passing though ends with a circular polarization.
Personally, I think you would need both (depending on your shooting needs), but that depends on a few factors, such as your ambient light level, the amount of filtration or density correction you need, and the polarizer filter you own. The answer is "yes" and "no;" - I'll explain below. . Different polarizer filters have different amounts of density reduction. For typical shooters, they most often prefer a polarizer filter with the least amount of light loss so they retain the most options in terms of setting their exposure. Most polarizer filters reduce light input into the camera by between 1.3 stops to 3 stops of light. For this reason, they _can_ be used as a neutral density filter. However, you also have to realize that the amount of light that is lost by using filter depends on the position to which the filter is rotated, and if you are photographing a scene, rotating the filter changes the amount of filtration; both happen concurrently. . As such, if you are using the filter as a polarizer filter, you would not be able to accurately set the amount of polarization you wanted for your scene while simultaneously dialing in the amount of density reduction you achieved. Conversely, if you are using the filter as a neutral density filter, the setting needed for your desired density reduction may not be adequate to reduce reflections and/or adjust contrast/saturation of the scene you are photographing, or you may have uneven polarization across the scene (especially if using a wide angle lens). . The best bet is if you need polarization, use a polarizer filter. If you need density reduction, then purchase a neutral density filter or a variable ND filter. If you need both, purchase both. A polarizer *_CAN_* do both, but I don’t think it *_SHOULD_* do both (or be used for both at the same time - use the polarizer filter for its intended purpose). .
When working in bright conditions, a lens hood in conjunction with a circular polarizer is useful. Some lenses have a built in slot to allow the circular polarizer to be adjusted while the hood is on the lens.
I didn't know about degradation problems with wide lenses. In general I think that the necessity of polarized filters is overestimated. Photoshop most of times can solve problems. Nevertheless a polarize filter or any kind of filter can save time for professionals.
Polarizer. A polarizer is an optical filter that lets light of a specific polarization pass and blocks waves of other polarizations. It can convert a beam of light of undefined or mixed polarization into a beam of well-defined polarization, that is polarized light. *Andrea
02:06 "90* to Sun" : Thanks for the tip. I wasn't aware.....
To those who say that anything that can be done with a polarizer filter can be done in Photoshop: Good luck trying to achieve the same results when doing tide pool work or any work when shooting through water! I guess the question becomes: Are you a photographer or a Photoshop editor? I prefer to uses photographic tools in the field and then use Photoshop to prepare my images for display.
Theres even photographers with popular youtube channels that say that
The only effect of a polarizer that can´t be reproduced in post is cutting glare i.e. when shooting through water or windows, everything else can be done in post pretty easily.
@@Soonjai that's what the polarizing filter is used most for though
It's the difference from being a photographer, and GOOD photographer .
It would seem to me that with the polarized filter cutting the glare that you will get a cleaner photo and you can probably do even more with in post .
I'm glad I came across this video - years later! I plan on taking my DSLR camera and new polarizer filter up in the mountains tomorrow for great pics/videos for my UA-cam channel.
Wow, I was using a polarizer wrong. I thought you just screwed it on and left it.......didnt think to rotate it around to the sky. Wow; epic fail.
Daniel Medley 😂
we all been there T..T
dunno about that.. that is pretty dumb.. who buys a cpol filter and dosent know it rotates ?>?>
@@RobBob555 me
I Using a plarizer filters Sports Photography
These days, with high shutter speeds and image stabilization available in almost every newer camera, you can essentially leave a high quality circular polarizer on your lenses about 80% to 90% of the time when shooting outside and even inside sometimes. At most it might cost you 1 stop or so, but I find the convenience to be well worth it. When I first started photography as a hobby, I loved using all sorts of attachments to enhance my photographs, but now, 35 years later, the less I have to mess with the camera (except for focus and exposure, of course), the better. Oh, and I don't use Photoshop either, except on rare and very specific occasions. It's a wonderful product but I think that not depending on it forces you to use your best creative abilities before taking the shot. To each, his own, I suppose.
Best info I have seen on the various types of filters, well done. Thanks B&H
Everything is said. Each phrase contains one important information. Video to be watched several times.
Great job. Lots of great info.
Just seeing the Austin Healey was worth the article :)
One way to eliminate vignetting is to buy a filter one size up and use a set-up ring.
Is this the answer to Tony Northrups post?! Just saying....
+Andrea Thode Brought to you objectively by B and H, a company that has no interest in selling polarizers? I think the need for polarizers depends on the specific situation. I've had pictures enhanced through polarization and some ruined by polarization. They can be used occasionally if done correctly. In my opinion they are overrated, but they have a place in some situations.
lol
+Andrea Thode Tony Northrup's video was intended for beginners, who need to develop technique rather than splurging on gear. That video shows *alternative methods* to acquiring the same (in most cases) or similar shot. It does not explicitly tell you to throw out all your filters...
@@fernank017 what video is that?
I'm new to photography/ video... Do all the polarized lens have a rotational rings? I saw a $15 one on Amazon but no reviews. Or should I just buy the Globe $80 kits?
Can we use a Cpl on a wide/ultra wide angle (Non fisheye)?
What are your or other people's thoughts or experiences with using circular polarizers with ultra wide lenses, specifically the rokinon (samyang) 12mm?
Are all CPLs the same strength? Trying to figure out if there is a difference or if they all reduce the very same amount of haze.
so a B+W f pro mrc wouldnt be the correct cpl for sigma 16mm 1.4 on an apsc?
Thanks Alan. You guys at B&H rock! Wish you had a store here in north FL.
I do swimwear test shots at the beach (Miami Beach, Fl), which polarizes filter would you recommend me? I saw another photographer using one of them, it was a B+W but didn't have the chance to see the specifications. Thank you for your help.
I use a Batis 85mm and planning to get the 70-200mm f/2.8 for my Sony A7RII camera. @bandh
I wish I could live there, it's a great store. Packed a lot of useful info into 4:45.
Will this reducing reflections/double exposures on windows when shooting video at night please?
Seems like an add on out of pocket expense Se that could get same result in post production software during touch up
What’s the best polarizer could you recommend for my sigma 16mm f1.4? 😅
Thank you very much..
It was very helpful..
idk why but, I can imagine Stone Cold and Booker T just absolutely brawling their way through the background of this guys explanation XD
A lot of info, thanks Allan !
Phil (France)
Question: Can you describe the difference between the circular polarizer and the other type? How are they used and why?
Thanks!
+GS Wing Nut Circular polarizers and linear polarizers are different in a few ways. Linear polarizers should only be used with film cameras and only block certain orientations of plane polarized light. For example, at one orientation, it may allow the passage of vertically polarized light, but if rotated 90 degrees, it would allow the polarization of horizontally polarized light. This differs from a circular polarizer, which can be used with digital and film cameras, and is made of two elements - a linear polarizer, and a quarter wave plate. The quarter wave plate is fused to the back of the linear polarizer and oriented in a way that makes the light hitting the filter circularly polarized. This is important, as the intensity of reflection from partially reflecting surfaces is dependent on the angle of polarization, and the partially reflecting surfaces includes the mirror inside of your camera. While older film cameras use a fully reflecting mirror, newer SLRs and digital cameras use a partially reflecting mirror, so the intensity of transmitted light will affect the meter reading. When you use a circular polarizer, the polarized light is reflected with intensity that is independent from the angle of the filter, so metering errors are eliminated. |Heather|
Thank you, Alan! Very helpful!
i am using nikon D3300,can i use CPL filter?
You just need to rub some Vaseline on the lense first
Nice point the 90° light :)
whats the difference between B+W polarizers and non B+W filters?
and is multi resistant coating necassary
B+W is a brand name. The difference between B+W filters and filters from other manufacturers would be their proprietary designs and/or construction of the filters. The use of a polarizer filter from any brand would be relatively similar, as they are all designed to polarize light in the same manner. However, each brand may have different types or number of coatings depending on the specific filter line, the material and thickness/thinness of the filter ring, and/or other properties of the specific filter design.
Multi-coatings are not a necessity. They are a feature, and often recommended, but it is not a necessity (the filter will work without coatings or with a single coating). Coatings on filters are designed to reduce flare, glare, and internal reflections that can reduce contrast, sharpness, or image quality. Other coatings can strengthen the glass, or can make it harder for water and oil to adhere to the filter. As stated, multi-coatings are not a necessity, and there are filters without coatings, but they are often sought after for their beneficial properties and benefits to the overall image quality and/or ease of cleaning the filter.
1:35 the chimping 😂….
before the EVF changed our lives forever
What about using a lens hood, at the same time as a hood ?? Any body........
Which polarizes filter should i use in portrait in sunlight????
I would suggest looking at a circular polarizer from B+W or Hoya: they make some of the better filters on the market. I would also suggest looking at a multicoated filter as they are less likely to cause ghosting or flare. That being said, we would need to know the exact lens you are using to make specific recommendations. You could send us an email with this information and we could respond with some recommendations. *Christina* AskUA-cam@bhphoto.com
Can I use this for outdoor portraits
Thanks..Well explained.
they dont seem to work on LED lights
Thank you for sharing!
Lots of useful info. I'll be in the market for the nice B+W CPL :-)
Good video. Thanks
Hi, does the polarized filter works with steel?
Polarizing filters are not effective with metallic surfaces. >Mark
Opppsss....my mistake. What about using a lens hood with the pola filter, at the same time? Anyone....
It is possible to use a circular polarizer with a lens hood attached. Some lenses offer hood with a retractable window in order to control the filter. Other lenses like long telephoto primes would have a circular polarizer that can be inserted towards the back of the lens with a dial to control it. Otherwise, lens with none of these functions would require the adjustment of the filter to be made before attaching the hood.
Can polarised filter used in night pic
You can use a polarizing filter at night, but be aware that doing so will effectively block one to two stops of light which will necessitate opening the aperture and/or using a slower shutter speed. >Mark
CPL works on linearly polarized light, the effect has nothing to do with UV.
Can I still mount a lens hood on top of these filters?
MedTHC Ontario Yes, most if not all filters can.
Thanks alan, Cool shirt
can use cpl filters for video camera also?
Yes, you can use a Circular Polarizing Filter for Video Cameras as well.
Thanks!
-Joey P
Good for sports or no?
You can certainly use a circular polarizer when shooting sports to help deepen the colors or reduce reflections in the frame.
Very helpful. I ❤ B+H
Thank you for the info 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Glad you enjoyed.
Great video!
Use polarizing filters as you would polarized sunglasses. Too much glare? Put them on😀
Great video
Hihave a question about ND variable filter and the Polarizer.
ND variable Filter reduces steps of light, but it neither cut nor control undesired reflections and haze. In the contrary, the polarizer will reduce two step of light as the max, but will not substitute ND. Combining them could make an improvement under some circumstances.
I know that if stacking the ND in front of the pola won't work.
Primordially, this is a technique used in photography. But It could work for filmmaking only under some outdoor circumstances.
Would you agree?
Can u use polarizer filters shooting video
Hi C Mack, yes you can use a circular polarizer when shooting video. Thanks for watching.
How do you know what circle size fits on your lenses
theres a number on the front of your lens
Dimension is also given if you look inside your lense cap!
Generally this is noted on the inside of the lens cap and can also be found written on the front of the lens.
Why do you say the circular one is specifically made for auto but then later on say these can be used on both auto and manual?
I think he meant they CAN ALSO be used with auto, since he says linear ones are strictly for manual use
cpl were made for auto because the metering system for autofocus (in dslr and most cameras) uses a beam splitter that also polarizes light. Cpl is actually a linear polarizer with a quarter wavelength film behind it, so light passing though ends with a circular polarization.
Great stuff
Do I need a ND if I have a Polarizer?
Personally, I think you would need both (depending on your shooting needs), but that depends on a few factors, such as your ambient light level, the amount of filtration or density correction you need, and the polarizer filter you own. The answer is "yes" and "no;" - I'll explain below.
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Different polarizer filters have different amounts of density reduction. For typical shooters, they most often prefer a polarizer filter with the least amount of light loss so they retain the most options in terms of setting their exposure. Most polarizer filters reduce light input into the camera by between 1.3 stops to 3 stops of light. For this reason, they _can_ be used as a neutral density filter. However, you also have to realize that the amount of light that is lost by using filter depends on the position to which the filter is rotated, and if you are photographing a scene, rotating the filter changes the amount of filtration; both happen concurrently.
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As such, if you are using the filter as a polarizer filter, you would not be able to accurately set the amount of polarization you wanted for your scene while simultaneously dialing in the amount of density reduction you achieved. Conversely, if you are using the filter as a neutral density filter, the setting needed for your desired density reduction may not be adequate to reduce reflections and/or adjust contrast/saturation of the scene you are photographing, or you may have uneven polarization across the scene (especially if using a wide angle lens).
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The best bet is if you need polarization, use a polarizer filter. If you need density reduction, then purchase a neutral density filter or a variable ND filter. If you need both, purchase both. A polarizer *_CAN_* do both, but I don’t think it *_SHOULD_* do both (or be used for both at the same time - use the polarizer filter for its intended purpose).
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Honestly, I use my polarizer as an ND filter all the time for field work. Gives 2 solid stops which is usually enough to do what I need.
Which is better? Lens hoods or polarizers?
When working in bright conditions, a lens hood in conjunction with a circular polarizer is useful. Some lenses have a built in slot to allow the circular polarizer to be adjusted while the hood is on the lens.
pretty dumb question.. how is a hood gonna stop reflections on glass, and cut thru water etc ?? did you even watch this video ??
@@BandH Sony DSC H400 -- Would a polarizing filter improve the stills ?
great!
good info
Are polarizer good for streetphotography?
A polarizer can be used for street photography when the sun is positioned 90° from where you are shooting.
Better color one reason why you use
I didn't know about degradation problems with wide lenses. In general I think that the necessity of polarized filters is overestimated. Photoshop most of times can solve problems. Nevertheless a polarize filter or any kind of filter can save time for professionals.
Everytime I close my eyes all I can hear is Bobby Flay
polaroizers?
Polarizer. A polarizer is an optical filter that lets light of a specific polarization pass and blocks waves of other polarizations. It can convert a beam of light of undefined or mixed polarization into a beam of well-defined polarization, that is polarized light.
*Andrea
He was making fun of your heavy NY accent :)
lmao
All the camera came from Japan wow what other countries r doing only using 😐
this review was nice but was way to fast and the words started to mix together.
What, no Beard, no Hat?
I came here just for mantis shrimp
The heavy accent is very distracting, I must say haha
polaroisers.
Why to use polarisers? Oh dear