I wish they’d update the audio engine cos that weird bending of the sound when the game stutters has to be the most annoying immersion breaking thing, that I try so hard to ignore but can’t! Either way, as per usual, amazing work and was looking forward to hearing what was next from you and of course you never disappoint! ❤
You deserve a medal, I guessed it would be most likely be you who would produce t his sound mod (together with you updating the sound mod on the Bakerloo stock to work with TSW5 and the Class 387 etc) - fantastic mod and certainly brings the Pendolino to life. The original sounds were okay (no better) - now it sounds like a Pendolino. Fantastic work, Dovetail Games, sign him up now !!
Honestly this is fantastic! I downloaded it last night and it makes the Pendolino sound as real as it gets. Huge well done and thank you from us simmers because it’s greatly appreciated. DTG could learn a lot from you.
dovetail should be putting the effort in themselves to get good quality audio, especially the price they charge for stuff. Shouldn't be left to modders to do their job for them.
@MattJames2211 fr though I mean it's common sense to have decent sounded trains and decent physics too and then the trains sound garbage without mods and then they charge £60 for deluxe for that ngl I'd rather have to pay £25 for deluxe
For a game that wants you to buy a new version of it every year, this should have been the vanilla feature. Sad how a single person had to do it as a mod, but a damn good job you did at that!
This is a great sound mod but ngl the one thing that i WISH someone would implement, are the onboard announcements. Id love to just hear the "*chime plays* welcome aboard this- AVANTI WEST COAST SERVICE to: Milton Keynes Central"
Thank you so much for your mod. I was extremely disappointed with the quality of the Pendolino sounds, so much so that I started check Windows Sound Control Panel to make sure that Loudness Equalisation and Voice Boost were turned off.
Can't wait for the day i can move to pc. Even though i can't transfer my dlc to pc I'm happy with re purchasing just the wcml to use the mods because they're too good to avoid, the level of detail is just insane
@ItsYa165 Tired of being stuck with the quality that dtg releases and hoping that they fix it, it's long torture. The modding community always understands the details missing and I'd rather rely on the people who care about the finer details. Still enjoying the wcml, glad it is here but it's the details the complete the experience. Even though it's a short route for the 390, when a route is quality and feels alive the length of the route doesn't matter as much.
The gear box harmonics dont sound like any train ive heard even on the real life footage, youd think theyd have a slower , higher speed sound of class 334s or 458s, but nope. They are Very unique. Usually from what i hear, majority of trains have similar variations of gearbox sounds representing gear ratios that seem to be used accross the board somewhat, in ways that make predictable sounds. For example some high speed trains sound similar to each orher accross the world via the gearbox harmonics. Class 395s, sound like a good portion of shinkansen and also some high speed ABB stuff etc. Even trains that his 100mph have similar gearbox sounds to higher speed 125mph rolling stock. Just geared downwards (class 378 and talent 2s for example sound very similar via the gearbox and even hit the relitively the same frequencies at the exact same speeds as one another ) This case , idk what the hell the 390s sound like. Tbh the underground stock seem to have unique gearbox sounds too. But whilst S stock can be differentiated from a 96 stock via all the layers of sounds it makes, theres a few similar frequencies from the gearbox you can hear. So i won't be suprised if some rolling stock share similar gear ratios despite being made by different companies. 96 apparently has double reduction. So its probably why you hear a multitude of sounds separate from the GTO.
Almost everything you've said is sensical. The only thing which will now hopefully make more sense for you is that a high speed train and a low speed train can actually sound the same if the gear ratio is altered by adding another gear. This is two gear ratios multiplied together! So you can get the sound similar to the Class 334 on the Class 390... plus the additional frequencies of the torque reducing gear which increases the speed range in tradeoff. You might find that a few trains around the world may do this to offer high and low speed variants of a Class or platform in an affordable fashion. And we all know Alstom used to be very cheap...
@@ItsYa165 yeah I figured as much. Given that it's all mechanical and gear sized and teeth are scaled up and down many trains will sound somewhat similar. Hence why I tend to notice that BREL 465 have similar blends of sounds as a 365/395/Talent 2s etc.(although 365s gearbox was really quiet for some reason but every train is different so theres that) and how alot of mitsubishi/hitachi gear boxes also sound similar because of their gear ratios. Would be cool to have more mitsubishi style gear boxes /or gear ratios here in the uk, at least then some units would sound like keiyku N1000s somewhat 😂it's a nice hypothetical, even the Stadlers are mainly similar in sound due to the same reasons most likely too. Side note* This is also how I sort of realised some trains are likely capable of significantly higher speeds than they are limited to at such as class 378s (probably 100mph in theory) given the gear box sounds and the occurring oscillating frequencies at a given speed relitive to other trains that have higher speed ratings (talent 2s in this case). Obvs there's a limiting factor for a reason the most obvious being no lateral dampers, and the second likely being the purpose it serves. So most of what im saying is deduced over Time and hypothetical In this case. But it seems to make sense to me. This logic can apply to other trains too (obviously) But yeah thanks for confirming, I was just curious to know why some trains sound like others.
@@ItsYa165 cool. Just as a critical view from my end at other game devs like AP or Dovetail. Alot of game Devs make the 465 sound extra extra bassey or make the track run sounds too loud. They don't really know what a 465 sounds like to it's core. They also miss the critical part , the gear box frequencies. You dont even hear it in game. All you hear the the sync mode frequencies on the /9 then it just fades into bass territory alone they don't consider the "whooing" air rush noise either. In reality you can hear the gearbox screams a tad bit even after 60mph and to max speed on some/9s, but most importantly, you can always hear them from the outside when the train flies by, no matter the speed. In summary track noise too loud as a distraction and the bass of the motor components are too bloody harsh in game . But thanks for my Ted Talk and hopefully you will save the day for the 465/9s in future 😂 💫💫💫
It might do, it might not. Microsoft Store products tend to be a lot more secure and difficult to modify. If you can find the same directory as listed on the download page but for the Microsoft Store / Xbox for Windows PC edition of TSW, you can try it for yourself and let me know. It's purely because the MS Store is the least popular platform for buying PC editions of TSW, whereby Steam is the most popular... followed by Epic Games. As a result, it's rarely tested and never discussed.
@@ItsYa165 yeah mate, the only reason why I got it on ms store is because I used to play on Xbox before I got my PC and I don’t want to spend over £200 reacquiring all of my DLC’s. I’ll check tomorrow and see if it works.
I like your outside sounds but the inside sounds are too loud. You can't really hear the train over the air conditioning and people talking when you ride in it IRL.
You can hear the traction system over people talking because both me and Sepian have it in our recordings. Additionally, TSW NPCs don't talk so there's no reference for that whatsoever. But I've addressed the HVAC sounds with new recordings. Even with the HVAC on, you can easily hear the traction drive over it (because it's in my recordings). The difference between what you think is correct vs. what actually is correct is the difference between your opinion and the microphone.
I don't intend to release my recordings on UA-cam at this time, but go and watch Sepian's video ua-cam.com/video/idA6OV4TdNY/v-deo.html. Somebody literally coughs and you can still hear the gearbox over that. Not only is the gearbox significantly louder than the HVAC, it's louder than the onboard announcements, louder than the crisp packets being ruffled before arriving at Rugby, it's louder than the passing train, and even at high speed you can still hear it amongst these people chatting ua-cam.com/video/idA6OV4TdNY/v-deo.html. You've probably just not sat where the transmission is mounted, and instead sat somewhere else in the carriage or just a trailer altogether...
@@trainsimulatordriver If you were on a /0, you were just sat in an unpowered trailer and probably only heard it faintly from the next car over. I, however, used the Angel Trains website to find the right car and then my copper inductor to find exactly where stator was mounted to the chassis. I'm diligent.
The Class 350 sound mod is already a thing but I'm not satisfied with its run sounds after setting the bar higher with the Class 390. So it will be a while yet before it comes out.
I wish they’d update the audio engine cos that weird bending of the sound when the game stutters has to be the most annoying immersion breaking thing, that I try so hard to ignore but can’t! Either way, as per usual, amazing work and was looking forward to hearing what was next from you and of course you never disappoint! ❤
You deserve a medal, I guessed it would be most likely be you who would produce t his sound mod (together with you updating the sound mod on the Bakerloo stock to work with TSW5 and the Class 387 etc) - fantastic mod and certainly brings the Pendolino to life. The original sounds were okay (no better) - now it sounds like a Pendolino. Fantastic work, Dovetail Games, sign him up now !!
Honestly this is fantastic! I downloaded it last night and it makes the Pendolino sound as real as it gets. Huge well done and thank you from us simmers because it’s greatly appreciated. DTG could learn a lot from you.
You should reach out to DTG and allow them to use your sounds to make the game actually worth playing
Maybe I should...
@@ItsYa165 No maybe about it
@@ItsYa165u defo should without the sound mods most of the trains are undrivable or at the very least unbearable to listen to when driving
dovetail should be putting the effort in themselves to get good quality audio, especially the price they charge for stuff. Shouldn't be left to modders to do their job for them.
@MattJames2211 fr though I mean it's common sense to have decent sounded trains and decent physics too and then the trains sound garbage without mods and then they charge £60 for deluxe for that ngl I'd rather have to pay £25 for deluxe
For a game that wants you to buy a new version of it every year, this should have been the vanilla feature. Sad how a single person had to do it as a mod, but a damn good job you did at that!
This is a great sound mod but ngl the one thing that i WISH someone would implement, are the onboard announcements. Id love to just hear the "*chime plays* welcome aboard this- AVANTI WEST COAST SERVICE to: Milton Keynes Central"
Love the AP style you went for mate
Thank you so much for your mod. I was extremely disappointed with the quality of the Pendolino sounds, so much so that I started check Windows Sound Control Panel to make sure that Loudness Equalisation and Voice Boost were turned off.
There have also been some minor improvements since this video as well. The next thing coming is the Class 350.
Just got the mod and it’s awesome 😀😀 sounds great thank you
This is fantastic! Now the 390 is worth getting
Absolutely brilliant, thank you for your hard work.
Amazing work as usual. Hopefully along with some scenery and timetable mods in the future the WCML can be somewhat saved from its current poor state.
This is epic! Massive well done mate.
Already a new sound pack for the just released brand new Class 390, DTG obviously didn't put the effort in.
If only creators club allowed sounds mods too 😞
Can't wait for the day i can move to pc. Even though i can't transfer my dlc to pc I'm happy with re purchasing just the wcml to use the mods because they're too good to avoid, the level of detail is just insane
That's some commitment
@ItsYa165 Tired of being stuck with the quality that dtg releases and hoping that they fix it, it's long torture. The modding community always understands the details missing and I'd rather rely on the people who care about the finer details.
Still enjoying the wcml, glad it is here but it's the details the complete the experience. Even though it's a short route for the 390, when a route is quality and feels alive the length of the route doesn't matter as much.
The gear box harmonics dont sound like any train ive heard even on the real life footage, youd think theyd have a slower , higher speed sound of class 334s or 458s, but nope. They are Very unique.
Usually from what i hear, majority of trains have similar variations of gearbox sounds representing gear ratios that seem to be used accross the board somewhat, in ways that make predictable sounds.
For example some high speed trains sound similar to each orher accross the world via the gearbox harmonics. Class 395s, sound like a good portion of shinkansen and also some high speed ABB stuff etc. Even trains that his 100mph have similar gearbox sounds to higher speed 125mph rolling stock. Just geared downwards (class 378 and talent 2s for example sound very similar via the gearbox and even hit the relitively the same frequencies at the exact same speeds as one another )
This case , idk what the hell the 390s sound like. Tbh the underground stock seem to have unique gearbox sounds too. But whilst S stock can be differentiated from a 96 stock via all the layers of sounds it makes, theres a few similar frequencies from the gearbox you can hear. So i won't be suprised if some rolling stock share similar gear ratios despite being made by different companies. 96 apparently has double reduction. So its probably why you hear a multitude of sounds separate from the GTO.
Almost everything you've said is sensical. The only thing which will now hopefully make more sense for you is that a high speed train and a low speed train can actually sound the same if the gear ratio is altered by adding another gear. This is two gear ratios multiplied together! So you can get the sound similar to the Class 334 on the Class 390... plus the additional frequencies of the torque reducing gear which increases the speed range in tradeoff.
You might find that a few trains around the world may do this to offer high and low speed variants of a Class or platform in an affordable fashion. And we all know Alstom used to be very cheap...
@@ItsYa165 yeah I figured as much. Given that it's all mechanical and gear sized and teeth are scaled up and down many trains will sound somewhat similar. Hence why I tend to notice that BREL 465 have similar blends of sounds as a 365/395/Talent 2s etc.(although 365s gearbox was really quiet for some reason but every train is different so theres that) and how alot of mitsubishi/hitachi gear boxes also sound similar because of their gear ratios. Would be cool to have more mitsubishi style gear boxes /or gear ratios here in the uk, at least then some units would sound like keiyku N1000s somewhat 😂it's a nice hypothetical, even the Stadlers are mainly similar in sound due to the same reasons most likely too.
Side note*
This is also how I sort of realised some trains are likely capable of significantly higher speeds than they are limited to at such as class 378s (probably 100mph in theory) given the gear box sounds and the occurring oscillating frequencies at a given speed relitive to other trains that have higher speed ratings (talent 2s in this case). Obvs there's a limiting factor for a reason the most obvious being no lateral dampers, and the second likely being the purpose it serves. So most of what im saying is deduced over Time and hypothetical In this case. But it seems to make sense to me. This logic can apply to other trains too (obviously)
But yeah thanks for confirming, I was just curious to know why some trains sound like others.
Fantastic job, if you could record a replacement cab air con sound that would be even better! Do you plan on doing a pack for the 350 too?
I might actually have cabin crew on aircon, but I'll have to see. The 350 will be available some point this week.
@@ItsYa165 Very excited for that, thanks for the info!
Wow, brilliant, is this available to download?
Indeed
DTG only push out trains as a cash grab, their sound "engineers" need a new career choice. This is spectacular!
Then there would be no sounds then if they all quit their jobs. There are some really great sounds in tsw though
Will this be available without the horn, I just prefer the old one
No
Whats a 465 BREL sound mod looking like for you Mr 165?
(I am also aware that the 465 Brels dont look the exact same So thats a dovetail issue)
I may do it when I redo the 465/9 whenever that happens
@@ItsYa165 cool. Just as a critical view from my end at other game devs like AP or Dovetail. Alot of game Devs make the 465 sound extra extra bassey or make the track run sounds too loud. They don't really know what a 465 sounds like to it's core.
They also miss the critical part , the gear box frequencies. You dont even hear it in game. All you hear the the sync mode frequencies on the /9 then it just fades into bass territory alone they don't consider the "whooing" air rush noise either. In reality you can hear the gearbox screams a tad bit even after 60mph and to max speed on some/9s, but most importantly, you can always hear them from the outside when the train flies by, no matter the speed.
In summary track noise too loud as a distraction and the bass of the motor components are too bloody harsh in game .
But thanks for my Ted Talk and hopefully you will save the day for the 465/9s in future 😂 💫💫💫
if the ICMm sound is garbage, would you make a soundmod for it? :D
Probably not, but I know someone who might.
@@ItsYa165 any is better than dovetail lol
As someone who has never used TSW is it worth investing in this sim? I'm still using Train Simulator.
Bro does this work on the windows Xbox app variant. The sound mod is absolutely brilliant
It might do, it might not. Microsoft Store products tend to be a lot more secure and difficult to modify. If you can find the same directory as listed on the download page but for the Microsoft Store / Xbox for Windows PC edition of TSW, you can try it for yourself and let me know. It's purely because the MS Store is the least popular platform for buying PC editions of TSW, whereby Steam is the most popular... followed by Epic Games. As a result, it's rarely tested and never discussed.
@@ItsYa165 yeah mate, the only reason why I got it on ms store is because I used to play on Xbox before I got my PC and I don’t want to spend over £200 reacquiring all of my DLC’s. I’ll check tomorrow and see if it works.
omds deres a 5th?
I like your outside sounds but the inside sounds are too loud. You can't really hear the train over the air conditioning and people talking when you ride in it IRL.
You can hear the traction system over people talking because both me and Sepian have it in our recordings. Additionally, TSW NPCs don't talk so there's no reference for that whatsoever. But I've addressed the HVAC sounds with new recordings. Even with the HVAC on, you can easily hear the traction drive over it (because it's in my recordings). The difference between what you think is correct vs. what actually is correct is the difference between your opinion and the microphone.
I don't intend to release my recordings on UA-cam at this time, but go and watch Sepian's video ua-cam.com/video/idA6OV4TdNY/v-deo.html. Somebody literally coughs and you can still hear the gearbox over that. Not only is the gearbox significantly louder than the HVAC, it's louder than the onboard announcements, louder than the crisp packets being ruffled before arriving at Rugby, it's louder than the passing train, and even at high speed you can still hear it amongst these people chatting ua-cam.com/video/idA6OV4TdNY/v-deo.html. You've probably just not sat where the transmission is mounted, and instead sat somewhere else in the carriage or just a trailer altogether...
@@ItsYa165 no need to get grumpy lol - it might depend where you sit, but in the recording I made from carriage G you certainly cannot hear it
@@trainsimulatordriver If you were on a /0, you were just sat in an unpowered trailer and probably only heard it faintly from the next car over. I, however, used the Angel Trains website to find the right car and then my copper inductor to find exactly where stator was mounted to the chassis. I'm diligent.
Yeassssssssssassssssss
On console??
Unfortunately not, sorry. I don't have the knowledge or skills to make that happen. The only way you'd get this on console is if DTG got this.
Awesome. Shame that the 350 sounds sucks as well
The Class 350 sound mod is already a thing but I'm not satisfied with its run sounds after setting the bar higher with the Class 390. So it will be a while yet before it comes out.
@@ItsYa165 oh ok thanks for the info and the sound mods you provide to us users!
One of the times I think, why am I on console
Honnestly you should email dovetail.