I stumbled on this video last night as to see more info on a Logan 850 .. I purchased a 850 in working order yesterday, I’m kinda unsure if one still uses this model and if one would need parts for it .. In all honesty I’m a seller and I like buying out machine shops mainly for small items but it had a price at 500.00 and kinda couldn’t say no even tho it’s a pretty heavy machine as one unit ... I’m kinda confused as to sell it for parts or as one unit .. It had many extras so I know it has plenty of value just unsure if the 850 can be used with the 815 or a 200 or any other model within the generation made ... I really enjoy your videos and any info you can give me on what to do with the lathe as a whole and or part it out .. I could make a video of it if needed as to what it looks like and how it sits at the moment ... I’ve managed to get it home and it’s in my truck at the moment .. Thanks Mr Pete
I just bought one of these today!!! My first lathe!!! Was a one owner and hardly used!!! Got a great deal and I'm super happy to have it!!! Keep Rocking it out!!!
HI, I hope you have enjoyed your lathe! I know you posted this comment about 3 years ago but I am looking for my first lathe as well! Do you remember how much you paid for yours? I have been looking frequently for Sheldon, Logan, and Atlas/Craftsman lathes. I am able to find good deals on them but they're either too far away, or sell within an hour. Apparently these old machines are highly sought after! Thanks!😃
mrpete, I just got a great deal on a Logan Model 200 serial# 10889. I have several wood lathes and I'm ready to start messing around with metal and couldn't pass up this opportunity. Thank you for your time and effort you put in these videos!
I will hopefully be picking up a logan 820 tomorrow. Really excited. This will be my first "real" lathe. The one i found is a 2 owner unit and looks nearly new. QC gear box. Still had the quill dauber on the tail stock too.. Thanks for all your vids!
Going to look at a 10" logan lathe tomorrow, this was handy as all get out for knowing what I"ll be looking at, because based on what I saw, it was the same lathe. Thanks for posting it 8 years ago. :)
Thank you very much Mr . You should be grateful if you could make a video with this way for us amateurs . Thank you again and wish you Happy New Year with health and happiness .
517 th 👍's up thanks again for taking us all along with you for the rest of the story 😊 I have picked up on a week ago Slowly getting it all cleaned up and put together so I can use it Tom Porter at adelman engine used to have the exactly one I used it there before Thanks again for the great video
I had a combination of 10" Logans and SB heavy 10's at my first school and we did experience a couple of crunched fingers with that cast iron belt guard, They had been crashed several times over their life and.while not extremely accurate, were fine for student instruction.
I just sold my Logan 821. I used it maybe 20 times over the last ten years. I miss it. I'd like to get a benchtop lathe cause i only really used my logan to turn bushings and it was so overkill... Needed the space and the money. When I first got it I totally disassembled clean and lubed it. Paint was in good shape so. Mine had a quickchange gearbox, it was so convenient. Bought for 900 10 years go, sold for 1200 so I made a little money..
Cool, Just about the same as my Logan/wards 84TLC-2136 lathe. (made in 1948) mine is the same, manual change gears, and Think they call it plain apron? Do you think the capability of longitudinal feeding only through the half nut is much of a disadvantage? Our shop teacher in high school was always talking about the QCGB, but I really didn't know what he was talking about.Not interested at the time. Aren't I allowed to post a link here?
I just watched your tour of the Logan 10" lathe. I picked up one of these lathes (Model 200) as a gift from a friend yesterday and brought it home. It looks like it's in fairly good shape but it needs a new flat belt. I noticed your lathe had a nice new looking belt. Where can I obtain one of these flat belts?Doug Auburg
Thank you for the tour! Curious if you could speak to the quality of the Logans that were sold through Montogomery Ward. I may have a lead on purchasing one, the model is 64tlc-2130. Thanks!
you make it all so clear. i don't have a lathe as of yet, and when i will have one i'll owe you a great deal. i'm planning on converting the smallest lathe i can find into a glassblowing lathe, the curlpit is the need for both heads to spin the same speed. i will have to buy a used lathe. do you know any small models that might fit this need? i'm also considering building from scratch. it doesn't have to be so accurate as metalworking lathe.
Coming a bit late: you really could make your own, power a shaft under the bed with a vfd motor or a treadmill motor, toothed belt drive to 2 headstocks, build this from a couple of used wood lathes. Dirt cheap.
+John Strange The logan in this video is a MW. I am not familiar with a reywood gearbox, which I think is after market. MACHINE SHOP TIPS #111 Tubalcain Buys Yet Another Lathe-This Time a Logan part 1
Need some advice....my friend is selling his used logan 200 lathe ..with orig stand...works ok....no accessories included....no change gears...$350 is that a good price or no?
i enjoy your videos i recently acquired a Logan 840 similar to this one and am interested in learning how to use it. it has a quick change attachment and the plunger for the back gear seems to lock up when pulled out any input would be much appreciated thank you
Thank you for watching. I will soon have my 40 chapter video course on the Logan Lee is available on Vimeo. Many people struggle with the back your plunger. Are youaware that there is a small spring loaded catch underneath the plunger. Get a flashlight and look under the plunger on the front side
Hello Mr. Pete. I have a very similar Logan Lathe which my father bought new in 1941. It needs a lot of care, including replacing the flat belt which I have purchased but not installed. Just looking for a good home for it and a whole bunch of tooling that goes with it, since I no longer have the space. Located in Santa Ana, CA. Let me know if you might know of anyone who might be interested. Thanks, Jack
Thanks. I'm not familiar with your process. Try to find a small lathe such as an Atlas that you can modify. If you get cheap, you can consider it expendable.
My lathes isn’t that quiet. But not that bad. What could I do to make it not as noisy? It’s a south bend and it hasn’t ran in 40 years. But it runs pretty good I must say
What is the listed model number of this lathe? I just bought one that seems to be identical apart from having a larger/deeper chip tray. Mine has a name plate that suggests it's a model #830, but as far as I can tell, the 830 is a turret lathe. I'm just learning these machines and any help would be appreciated.
I have the montgomery ward 04tlc-700a which I believe is the same or very similar. I would like to know what are the RPMs for the various combination pulley / gear combinations. Thanks!
Good night I was wondering if you could help me, I want to fix a machine like this. If you could send me pictures of the gears to see how many teeths each gear has.
Tubalcain- I'm going through a M.W. 04TLC-700A which I recently purchased. It appears that the Saddle Carriage Locking Nut? or Saddle Clamp Nut? Is gone. I see parts on ebay bearing both of those names. It appears Logan does not sell this part anymore, and I'm a bit scared of what they would want for one if they did. My question is, they show a machine screw with a hex head. I was expecting a lever. Isn't this what a person would use to lock the carriage when facing off a piece of material. does it require a wrench every time? Also, did the 04TLC-700A have auto crossfeed?
+mrpete222 I'm just getting my bearings again on the metal lath. Am I correct in thinking that the ability to lock the carriage is essential when facing?
I just got one of these today but I have to get a motor to make it work. While spinning the chuck by hand, I pulled the knob for the back gears and now the lathe seems to be locked up and I don't see how to disengage it. Any help would be appreciated
Did you know atlas and Logan use the same change gears? Was happy to find out,, the Logan I just bought has broken gear box and I have 2 sets of change gears for my atlas lathes but bought have quick change gear boxes,,
@@mrpete222 use one,,, I was searching Logan change gears and atlas and Logan showed up as same and sure enough Logan changed at banjo to same teeth gears as atlas on my 11 inch Logan and 10 and 12 atlas change gears are listed the same.. look up Logan change gears and watch what comes up..
@@mrpete222 glad I looked was going to have a set printed made my day to find out and I have 2 sets I don't need for my 12 inch atlas with quick change gear boxes
@@mrpete222 you know far more than I Pete,, some changes will set up as drive gear with double key way are as just free spin reduction gear so one are 2 keys won't matter.
I'm picking up a Logan 200 tomorrow. Can anyone chime in on the weight of the machine? I've seen 520 pounds, but unsure if that's the weight of the lathe and stand. Any help is appreciated, as this lathe is in a basement and must come up stairs. Thanks!
@catman72 If you are dead set on making your own glass lathe look for a lathe for free on craigs list. You'll need to build a new headstock, tailstock and planetary chucks. Most metal lathe headstocks won't go above 1" diameter. About the only usable parts will be the carriage, Ways, and extra gears. You may be better off calling as many schools as you can and ask to talk to the chemist who has been there the longest and see if they have one in storage.
The motor has a v belt pulley...????....it looks like the larger counter wheel or pulley is flat..what are you using...I have one of these and and need to hook a motor up to it...wondering what do I need for the hook up..??
Can you send me some pictures of the gears I want to see how many teeths has each gear and also can you send me the picture from the cover to see how I can change the gears.....Thank you
These are the best training videos on the planet; bar none!
Thankyou
Dave
This was a great video. Thank you for all of the things I've learned from you through the years.
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And it always comes back to MrPete ... thanks mr Pete again ,I enjoyed it
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I stumbled on this video last night as to see more info on a Logan 850 ..
I purchased a 850 in working order yesterday, I’m kinda unsure if one still uses this model and if one would need parts for it ..
In all honesty I’m a seller and I like buying out machine shops mainly for small items but it had a price at 500.00 and kinda couldn’t say no even tho it’s a pretty heavy machine as one unit ...
I’m kinda confused as to sell it for parts or as one unit ..
It had many extras so I know it has plenty of value just unsure if the 850 can be used with the 815 or a 200 or any other model within the generation made ...
I really enjoy your videos and any info you can give me on what to do with the lathe as a whole and or part it out ..
I could make a video of it if needed as to what it looks like and how it sits at the moment ...
I’ve managed to get it home and it’s in my truck at the moment ..
Thanks Mr Pete
I just bought one of these today!!! My first lathe!!! Was a one owner and hardly used!!! Got a great deal and I'm super happy to have it!!!
Keep Rocking it out!!!
HI, I hope you have enjoyed your lathe! I know you posted this comment about 3 years ago but I am looking for my first lathe as well! Do you remember how much you paid for yours? I have been looking frequently for Sheldon, Logan, and Atlas/Craftsman lathes. I am able to find good deals on them but they're either too far away, or sell within an hour. Apparently these old machines are highly sought after!
Thanks!😃
mrpete, I just got a great deal on a Logan Model 200 serial# 10889. I have several wood lathes and I'm ready to start messing around with metal and couldn't pass up this opportunity. Thank you for your time and effort you put in these videos!
Nice work Mr Pete, I always appreciate your videos. With your soft-spoken sincere voice.
Thanks
I just picked one up at auction. Thanks for the overview!
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Great video! A Bridgeport edition would be fantastic...
I will hopefully be picking up a logan 820 tomorrow. Really excited. This will be my first "real" lathe. The one i found is a 2 owner unit and looks nearly new. QC gear box. Still had the quill dauber on the tail stock too.. Thanks for all your vids!
+TODD FINK Thanks for watching--you will like that logan
Going to look at a 10" logan lathe tomorrow, this was handy as all get out for knowing what I"ll be looking at, because based on what I saw, it was the same lathe. Thanks for posting it 8 years ago. :)
Excellent presentation! Thanks!
Mr. Pete please do a video regarding “Change Gears”. How do you determine which combinations do you use for various operations?
Great video! A Bridgeport version of this would be fantastic...
Thank you very much Mr . You should be grateful if you could make a video with this way for us amateurs . Thank you again and wish you Happy New Year with health and happiness .
thank you sir. i hope to see many more videos from you. you are a great teacher.
Many Thanks Tubalcain. As already noted you are a great teacher.
Thank you mrpete, as always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~
Thanks for watching
Thank you, I'm looking for a Logan
thnx for the vids mr pete, am going to restore my old girl, Have a good holiday to you and yours
Wow... Nice i jus got me one of those not knowing how practical and nice they are...
517 th 👍's up thanks again for taking us all along with you for the rest of the story 😊
I have picked up on a week ago
Slowly getting it all cleaned up and put together so I can use it
Tom Porter at adelman engine used to have the exactly one I used it there before
Thanks again for the great video
👍Glad you liked it
I had a combination of 10" Logans and SB heavy 10's at my first school and we did experience a couple of crunched fingers with that cast iron belt guard, They had been crashed several times over their life and.while not extremely accurate, were fine for student instruction.
👍 hello Roger
just inherited an 11" Logan. excellent video, thanks a lot
Greg Whitcher Great--now you can make some models.
@mrpete222 thnx for the vids mr pete yours and band would have been my favorite classes, do you still have this lathe?
I just sold my Logan 821. I used it maybe 20 times over the last ten years. I miss it. I'd like to get a benchtop lathe cause i only really used my logan to turn bushings and it was so overkill... Needed the space and the money. When I first got it I totally disassembled clean and lubed it. Paint was in good shape so. Mine had a quickchange gearbox, it was so convenient. Bought for 900 10 years go, sold for 1200 so I made a little money..
+Jay Walt Thanks for watching--I always have sellers remorse after I get rid of machines
Very informative. Your a natural teacher sir. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks
He's like an aging high school shop teacher, and that's coming from an aging high school shop teacher.
Thank you I appreciate your video I inherited one of these from my grandfather and am trying to figure it out
Thanks for watching
Very nice video, Thank You.
Thanks !!
old but beautiful
thank you very much this was super helpful
Cool, Just about the same as my Logan/wards 84TLC-2136 lathe. (made in 1948)
mine is the same, manual change gears, and Think they call it plain apron?
Do you think the capability of longitudinal feeding only through the half nut is much of a disadvantage?
Our shop teacher in high school was always talking about the QCGB, but I really didn't know what he was talking about.Not interested at the time.
Aren't I allowed to post a link here?
nice vid per usual
I just watched your tour of the Logan 10" lathe. I picked up one of these lathes (Model 200) as a gift from a friend yesterday and brought it home. It looks like it's in fairly good shape but it needs a new flat belt. I noticed your lathe had a nice new looking belt. Where can I obtain one of these flat belts?Doug Auburg
Thanks for watching-ebay
Very informative video. What is a lathe like this worth in very good condition with a 3 jaw Chuck and some tooling/cutters?
$1200
Thank you for the tour! Curious if you could speak to the quality of the Logans that were sold through Montogomery Ward. I may have a lead on purchasing one, the model is 64tlc-2130. Thanks!
I have 2 of the MW lathes. I love them. Quality is excellent. Better than craftsman. Almost as good as SB.
Thanks! I'd love to have a SB, but there aren't many available in Houston. I'm a beginner, Hoping this little Logan will be a good fit.
Will a quick change box from a early 820 10' Logan Lathe work on 1942model 200 10' by 24' Lathe .
This one is for sale--after I make a few more videos with it.
Hello, thanks for these videos they are awesome. Can that atlas milling attachment be used on a logan lathe like this? Thanks!
not without major modifications
can u do a video on what to look for and stay away from when buying a used lathe. im looking to buy a used lathe and what to know what to look for
you make it all so clear.
i don't have a lathe as of yet, and when i will have one
i'll owe you a great deal.
i'm planning on converting the smallest lathe
i can find into a glassblowing lathe,
the curlpit is the need for both heads to spin
the same speed.
i will have to buy a used lathe.
do you know any small models that might fit this
need?
i'm also considering building from scratch.
it doesn't have to be so accurate as metalworking lathe.
Coming a bit late: you really could make your own, power a shaft under the bed with a vfd motor or a treadmill motor, toothed belt drive to 2 headstocks, build this from a couple of used wood lathes. Dirt cheap.
nice lathe i have one just like it.
Thanks for watching
Any thoughts or advice on the Monkey Wards branded 10" Logans with Reywood gear box?
+John Strange The logan in this video is a MW. I am not familiar with a reywood gearbox, which I think is after market. MACHINE SHOP TIPS #111 Tubalcain Buys Yet Another Lathe-This Time a Logan part 1
Thank you as always.
where can i put up a flat belt for mine at?
I have a logan lathe but need 2 gears in the gearbox and a 6' chuck need these part recamendation
Need some advice....my friend is selling his used logan 200 lathe ..with orig stand...works ok....no accessories included....no change gears...$350 is that a good price or no?
i enjoy your videos i recently acquired a Logan 840 similar to this one and am interested in learning how to use it.
it has a quick change attachment and the plunger for the back gear seems to lock up when pulled out any input would be much appreciated thank you
Thank you for watching. I will soon have my 40 chapter video course on the Logan Lee is available on Vimeo. Many people struggle with the back your plunger. Are youaware that there is a small spring loaded catch underneath the plunger. Get a flashlight and look under the plunger on the front side
Yes I got the plunger pressed in and it spins but when it's out the spindle seems to be locked up just wondering if that was normal
Did you release the bullpin????
mrpete222 I have zero experience using a lathe so I'm not sure what a bull pin is
I want one! Naow! :)
Hello Mr. Pete. I have a very similar Logan Lathe which my father bought new in 1941. It needs a lot of care, including replacing the flat belt which I have purchased but not installed. Just looking for a good home for it and a whole bunch of tooling that goes with it, since I no longer have the space. Located in Santa Ana, CA. Let me know if you might know of anyone who might be interested. Thanks, Jack
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Is the rust optionally?
I wish I had the money to buy it.
May I ask how to find the series on this 820 Logan Lathe. I would like to view from start to end. Thank you
It is still in the making
at 2:42 what is that lever for? is it to lock the spindle from moving?
Thanks.
I'm not familiar with your process. Try to find a small lathe such as an Atlas that you can modify. If you get cheap, you can consider it expendable.
My lathes isn’t that quiet. But not that bad. What could I do to make it not as noisy? It’s a south bend and it hasn’t ran in 40 years. But it runs pretty good I must say
Yes
The lid will eventually slam on your hand/fingers.
:P
This lathe was made way before lawsuits were popular.
Do you have video show how to make thread with this lathe?
What is the listed model number of this lathe? I just bought one that seems to be identical apart from having a larger/deeper chip tray. Mine has a name plate that suggests it's a model #830, but as far as I can tell, the 830 is a turret lathe. I'm just learning these machines and any help would be appreciated.
mine is 830
mrpete222
Thank you.
I have the montgomery ward 04tlc-700a which I believe is the same or very similar. I would like to know what are the RPMs for the various combination pulley / gear combinations. Thanks!
Kyle Lougnot go to VINTAGE MACHINERY website.. Look up & download logan manuals
The serial numbers start at 1100 and mine is 1103 does this mean mine was the 3rd 04tlc-770a made? Trying to locate manual now.
Good night I was wondering if you could help me, I want to fix a machine like this. If you could send me pictures of the gears to see how many teeths each gear has.
How much do these model 200’s weigh? Manageable with two men?
Three or four man
Hello sir. I have a question to ask you . I have found the same lathe in good condition . I could make threading the same gear .
+kostas dallis Yes
Tubalcain- I'm going through a M.W. 04TLC-700A which I recently purchased. It appears that the Saddle Carriage Locking Nut? or Saddle Clamp Nut? Is gone. I see parts on ebay bearing both of those names. It appears Logan does not sell this part anymore, and I'm a bit scared of what they would want for one if they did. My question is, they show a machine screw with a hex head. I was expecting a lever. Isn't this what a person would use to lock the carriage when facing off a piece of material. does it require a wrench every time?
Also, did the 04TLC-700A have auto crossfeed?
+Norton ED Requires a wrench everytime. not sure about the model.
Often the lock has fallen loose & is inside the apron.--look in there
+mrpete222 thanks, will do. You really are a heck of a guy. Thanks for all of your videos !
+mrpete222 I'm just getting my bearings again on the metal lath. Am I correct in thinking that the ability to lock the carriage is essential when facing?
+Norton ED yes
When I pull out the back gear plunger on my Logan 210, it locks the spindle. Is there a secret to using the slower speeds?
You must also pull the back gear bull pin. Then you have the lower speed.
@LostMachine
thanks. craig's list not so relevant here (israel),
but talking to schools is a good idea :-)
I just got one of these today but I have to get a motor to make it work. While spinning the chuck by hand, I pulled the knob for the back gears and now the lathe seems to be locked up and I don't see how to disengage it. Any help would be appreciated
There is a little Spring loaded stop on the plunger
i would think these lathes are not a god idea to turn in reverse?
Did you know atlas and Logan use the same change gears? Was happy to find out,, the Logan I just bought has broken gear box and I have 2 sets of change gears for my atlas lathes but bought have quick change gear boxes,,
I did not know that thank you. Some of the atlas gears have a double keyway?
@@mrpete222 use one,,, I was searching Logan change gears and atlas and Logan showed up as same and sure enough Logan changed at banjo to same teeth gears as atlas on my 11 inch Logan and 10 and 12 atlas change gears are listed the same.. look up Logan change gears and watch what comes up..
@@mrpete222 glad I looked was going to have a set printed made my day to find out and I have 2 sets I don't need for my 12 inch atlas with quick change gear boxes
@@mrpete222 you know far more than I Pete,, some changes will set up as drive gear with double key way are as just free spin reduction gear so one are 2 keys won't matter.
I'm picking up a Logan 200 tomorrow. Can anyone chime in on the weight of the machine? I've seen 520 pounds, but unsure if that's the weight of the lathe and stand. Any help is appreciated, as this lathe is in a basement and must come up stairs. Thanks!
I would say that 500 pounds about correct if it has the cast-iron legs
@@mrpete222 Thank you! I found your video on disassembling the Logan lathe. That definitely put me at ease!
I picked up the lathe without any issue, and it is in beautiful condition for being 78 years old.
@catman72 If you are dead set on making your own glass lathe look for a lathe for free on craigs list. You'll need to build a new headstock, tailstock and planetary chucks. Most metal lathe headstocks won't go above 1" diameter. About the only usable parts will be the carriage, Ways, and extra gears. You may be better off calling as many schools as you can and ask to talk to the chemist who has been there the longest and see if they have one in storage.
The motor has a v belt pulley...????....it looks like the larger counter wheel or pulley is flat..what are you using...I have one of these and and need to hook a motor up to it...wondering what do I need for the hook up..??
Can you send me some pictures of the gears I want to see how many teeths has each gear and also can you send me the picture from the cover to see how I can change the gears.....Thank you
I sold my Logan lathes
Como desarmar el carro longitudinal
T=up
Regálame una foto de la tabla de rosca cambio de piñones la placa la tienes en la tapa de los piñones logas 200
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Not familiar with that make. --but sounds like a worn half nut.
That things just a toy.
Very limited machine