It goes beyond the sport of fishing or tournament fishing. It’s harming fish wildlife. Adds pressure to fish meant to have safe sanctuaries and probably harming fish ripped from deep water
Thats not fishing thats fish hunting. I worked hard for years to become a good fisherman these people want it handed to them. NOT FAIR CHASE thanks Randy
FFS is hurting all species of fish, most young anglers have to use it to be competitive. Young kids with rich parents mainly. Otherwise they are totally lost.
I agree with you. We can call it bass catching with ffs, not fishing. Bass catching tournaments. How sad you're looking at a video screen all day. They have lost all their skill and cunning.
Ok !!!! If we're gonna bash something for the impact on fish population let state the obvious. Fishing Ternaments are bigger than they ever been and every tournament just in my little area couple hundred fish relocated or killed every weekend of the world. Even during spawning. Tournaments during this time do far more harm to fish population than FFs ever will. The fisherman I know including myself catch a big fish I might take a picture the put it right back where I caught it and yes I do use FFs it has helped me understand fish behavior better but it has never ever caught a fish for me. FFs never was there when I was figuring it out all by myself from age 10 and I'm now age 47.. I learned on my own the hard way. No sonar will catch a fish for u. I don't get the hatred about it.. anyone with FFs that never fished before!!! How will it help them catch the fish if they don't know the first thing about catching fish.. So put the blame where it belongs, TOURNAMENTS has the most blame for damage to fishery population . Now the 1% of people that seem to get the big o e to jump in the boat no matter where they are is a different story with FFs. If they put them right back after catching. Then no problem.. So !!!!! Why do you not call out all the Tournaments. Cause they do far more damage all by them selves without FFs.
Exactly! Also if I may, I find it hilarious how he talks about how money corrupts? Riiiiight! Soooooo when the sponsors came to him with new boat, new motor, aaaaall the gear he could possibly imagine using , and hell even a new truck meanwhile the average Joe like myself has to fish with what I have, I’m sure he turned them all away to keep it equal. After all, money corrupts😂😂😂
@@KennethMiller-tv7jp how have the people been winning the tournaments dir dir it's dominated by FFS!? YES Tournaments are drastically affecting the bass population an quality of the bass an all other fish that are kept for that matter buut the big bass that people are catchin to win wouldnt be chased down like dogs an up to 45% mortality rate without FFS!?WHATS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT🤦♂️
I fish the Alabama gulf coast and I don't even have a depth finder I'm looking into getting one to locate underwater structure but I catch plenty of fish in a tree hundred dollar kayak and wade fishing also and buy my own gear I wonder if he could catch fish like that without a hundred thousand dollar boat and electronics and graphs
You say the only reason these young ones are winning is cause of ffs If you would talk to then they spend many many hours studying the lake with maps ,topo maps, finding the places that should hold fish and everything else Just cause you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong
I love fuzzy dice. I fish from the bank, so certainly no electronics. I put them on a drop shot or wacky rigged. I even use a straight shank hook on your recommendation. They're expensive, so I get them on temu. Same thing. I heard Matt Stephan, and I think Ike as well talk about how they resemble food that the bass ate as babies. I use it the same way I would any other soft plastic.
As I recall, B.A.S.S. outlawed underwater TV long ago. Trolling is not allowed in bass tournaments. There is already precedent for banning technology and techniques.
1st and foremost I would like to say I'm sorry I reckon I've left one or two rude comments on here about not keeping up with the young. As I see the effects of forward facing sonar I would like to say I'm 100% on your side it needs to be banned and we don't need fishing tournaments on public lakes if it is on public lakes it needs to be catch weight and released no Wayins. And no tournaments during the spawned thanks for keeping up the good fight I greatly appreciate it all you're doing for the sport and the fish
As a guy who loves to just walk the shoreline pitching worms and the occasional hula popper if conditions are right ( yes I'm that old, some people still use those, and yes they still work very well under the right conditions), I have to agree. Using a better sonar than you would have found on a WW 2 submarine is not bass fishing.
I agree with you what I can foresee coming is thermal imaging in drones to spot fish on the flats fishing. I already see young guys on you tube using drones to spot fish on the flats !
It's incredibly sad that people would rather gravitate towards what's new, flashy, and trendy rather than towards what is sustainable. Advanced technology in fishing is simply not sustainable. Our fisheries has declined for decades and will continue to do so until we take a stand.
Randy, Some of us don't care at all about the history of bass fishing! You are stuck in nostalgia, dude. The cheater box gives me advantages I have been dreaming about for 50 years.
Something else for you to CRY about, people should be able to fish any way they want as long as there not breaking any local fish and Game Laws, Man give it a Break, first time in a long time I checked in on your Videos, Nothing has Changed.
If I don't fish tournaments or keep any fish, I don't understand why some people are so negative about how I fish with my FFS? Maybe I do suck and it makes fishing more enjoyable for me for the one day after working all week and doing house/yard work.
I watched "The Cast" "White River" and I wonder what you think Forrest Wood using fiberglass to make bass boats with raised decks was if not technology? Was the invention of the trolling motor not technology? Is the very thing that feeds your family today (UA-cam) not technology? I know you don't really believe yourself dude, you are intelligent. Whatever drives the algorithm I guess. That's why you sir should be ashamed! Happy Inauguration day!😂😂45,47!!
I started using livescope back in 2018. And I was always a person who thought the fish finder was good enough to tell you the death, the structure, and the water temperature. And that's how I used it. I purchased the livescope mainly because I just bought a new boat and it was time to put everything on it for you too. And am I very beginning videos I said that this is cheating. It was not as fun to catch fish on it because it took away mystery and just overall accomplishment thereafter. Was it cool to see fish and see how they react to your lures and things like that, absolutely. I always told my viewers that you know it was something that was cool to see and learn how fish react to your lures, but after that I always fish with it off. I sold the bree-z box around the world to network Garmin fish finders and I definitely appreciate all of the cells. But I don't use livescope the majority of the time I fish. I have fished bass tournaments and probably why I lost, but I didn't use it. I like the way that I grew up fishing of learning the structure and and just testing things out. The term video game fishing has been around well before livescope. Even with my Garmin echo that I have with a 4-in screen, it had a a scope. A scope allow you to vertical jig and things like that where you saw live interaction of your lure going up and down and fish interacting with it. So I will be in my kayak and I was using that in 2014. Now that's no different than what a flasher would do in a ice fisherman would do. And a lot of people don't even know how to use those old methods. I really truly think that livescope should not have a place in all fishing tournaments. I think that there should be challenges and seasons where it's not allowed. I'm not going to just take it away because it's a process out there. The main reason the industry won't take it away is because they're all making so much money from sales and sponsorships. I used to talk to a couple other tournament fisherman in Northern California and they're older too. But they really are from the old school mind that you can learn what the fish are doing by looking at the environment of that day. This technology is taking it away. Yeah older people don't want to learn new things. But as a technology person, I find myself going back to traditional methods in hunting, computing, learning to fix my own vehicles and things like that. There is a sporting advantage of a person who has Tru skillz and not just skills in using a computer, but using their hands and mind in the natural world. I think that was super easy when the system is down, what are you going to do
Why? I've embarrased people by outfishing them with it. No livescope either. Bass have been proven to bite almost anything. If you fish pressure waters it gives the fish something new to look at. I've had days where I get onto a school of fish and they wouldn't touch the dice, only minnow plastics. I get hating FFS because that ruins the whole finding fish thing but why hate on a lure because its odd? If you banned FFS then those lures would just work like any dropshot baits.
I'm a bank fisherman. I have no fancy screens to stare at. I catch my fish based on my skills. But I'm also one of don't give a crap if one decides to use ffs. To each their own.
So many good comparisons to be made in sports with technology being banned as an unfair advantage. Glasses that make the baseball look slower is not one of them😂
Nothing because thats not important. Its just another fun bait that gives the fish something new to look at. Ban ffs and it becomes just like any other type of plastic. Wait a couple of years until fish get used to it then its no different, just look at the whopper plopper results when it hit the market vs now. That bait still get bit but it isn't nearly as effective as before.
Would it be ok to use those baits if you don’t have FFS? I don’t, but I’m sort of curious about trying the dice some time. BTW… you can make your own dice with chunks cut from a stick bait and threading silicone strands that may have come off an old jig through the chunk using a needle.
Actually it "doesn't need to be said ..." your constant "my way or the high way" is why most just consider your opinions "fringe". I guess I missed the day you were put in charge of all bass fishing on the planet and became Bass Fishing Supreme Leader and therefore get to decide what is the only correct way to bass fish ... luckily I rarely if ever concern myself with what others think about how I choose to live my life so I never have to worry about being "ashamed " of how I fish. What I would be ashamed of is if I displayed the kind of attitude you do to anyone who doesn't think exactly like you. Of course there's a lot of "do as I say not as I do" like when the NPFL banned FFS yet you continue to fish tournaments that allow it and then complain every chance you get how unfair it is ... priceless 👽🦖
I'm guilty of buying the cheaper Yum ff sonar minnow but I don't have ff sonar. It was cheap costing $4 bux and looks like a nice straight tail trailer for a chatterbait or a spinnerbait. The houdini shad color looks awesome.
If they sold new flashers these days I would use them on my boat. Both of my flashers are broken and I have to use 2D sonar units. 30 years ago you could send your flasher to Lawrence and they would repair it for free but now they have no interest in repairing older sonar units.
Randy, I like fuzzy dice and tungsten minnows because neither are made from toxic Lead like your jigs. Ever watch the 2009 documentary on Tar Creek? It details the history of what was at one time the worst environmental disaster in the United States, owing to Toxic Lead mining, just upstream from your beloved Grand Lake. There’s 30,000,000 tons of Toxic Lead chat there. Where is your Lead mined?
The 25% Randy refers to are FFS diehards because they want to catch the BIG fish. They don’t want to waste their time catching small fish. There is only 1 thing that will change the Tournaments allowing FFS. The anglers are going to have to boycott the tournaments. Problem is we all know that won’t happen. There are plenty of young guns who will take those anglers place in the tournaments. This again show why professional bass anglers MUST have other streams of income so they can boycott the tournaments and the electronic companies. It’s not going to happen overnight but it’s looking like there is no other way to get FFS banned from tournaments.
Your right. If you ever listen to the guys that use it talk about going out in the tournaments. They truly don't want to have to ho out and find them. They rely on the technology to show them were they all are..wtf right.
@@robertdtimmerman 😂🤣No it's up to respectable authority folk at the top to understand what is honorable and ban trouble making. You did say ho out and honorable wise leave it though so....
Ffs is not killing the sport its all the negativity and negative people. Everybody has to always give their opinion and their 2 cents these days. Fishing is supposed to be fun and something you enjoy so why are all these anti ffs and even the ffs guys always complaining and getting at eachothers tails and killing the enjoyment and fun for themselves. How abt instead of making negative videos all the time and saying that the sport is gone, you make a positive video trying to actually help the sport and make people want to go fish and not associate it with negativity.
Yea it is literally helping tournament anglers catch these big good genetic female bass an bass In general an with up to 45 % mortality rate theyre killin the reproduction of good fish that they wouldn't be able to catch without ffs let alone the baro trauma of these giant bass bein brought up out deep water too fast mostly caught with ffs an post catch mortality from it ffs is not fishing its spotlighting for bass an chasein them down like dogs
@ we are all entitled to our own opinions and conclusions about this i personally havent seen any studies or seen in person an increase in mortality from it as long as you properly care for the fish, what i have seen high mortality rates from is water temps. high water temps=high mortality rate from what i have seen so maybe we should ban summer time tournaments if we are worried abt mortality rates. Also if we are worried abt future fish populations and the big good genetic females there should not be tournaments during bedding season, those 2 things combined probably do way more damage to fisheries than ffs.
@@Glock-1 im not trolling i made a valid point in a nice way, there is so much negativity these days in the sport ie. ur comment proving my point. If i was trolling i would have trashed randy but i didnt because i respect him he has great tip videos and stuff like that but everything has just been so negative.
Toxic Trinkets - I would definitely be embarrassed masquerading as an environmentalist while promoting a line of toxic Lead lures like you do. When’s your non-toxic prototype going to be unveiled?
With all due respect Randy your best moments are when you are sharing your knowledge on techniques and modifications i dont know if you have ever used ffs sorry cheater box and you cant get the hang of it or that it makes you so good that every cast puts a fish in the boat i know most of your friends use it fish the moment mat steffon and others i think there is alot of guys with the cheater box may be helping little but not loading the boat everytime they go out there is plenty of other things that have been just as damaging to the sport you have been apart of for years i am talking about thousands of tournaments held over the spawn in the heat of summer halling bass all day in your live well there are plenty of studies showing the damage this causes latest state of Alabama i dont hear you speak about that as much as the cheater box it seems as that consumes your every thought yes i have a cheater box but i am not super tech guy and ware i see helps me the most is using it with mapping to see cover in real time yes there are guys that are crazy good with it and it took a lot of time on the water to get there most are the tournament guys that brings us back to tournaments over the spawn the heat and slamming around i your live well all day with a mortality rate at 45 persent i respect your thoughts but the ffs cheater box just dont feel like the biggest problem to address i love the sport the outdoors i know you do as well and maybe my opinion is because i dont live in your part of the country and i am not seeing the affects you are as always thanks for the video
If you understand why a bass would eat/bite the dice, you also understand that it's an insult to the fish and the sport of fishing. It's just making a joke of bass curiosity. Real fishermen rely on the predator behavior of the fish as part of the challenge of fishing.
I agree Randy. They need to make forward facing sonar illegal to fish with altogether, even non tournament angling....Period! Technology needs to stop here with our lakes and rivers now before it gets worse! It will lead to very bad outcomes in the future. Anyone with common sense should recognize this fact. Too many people greedily focused on what they can get out of life now without any careful thought of the future. Yes, it's also money and greed and power.
Talking about money, how many fisherman would fish tournaments if they did not have a chance to make money In other words, it’s all about money even to the professional fisherman
Well Randy your point here is getting closer, Again for the 20th time ….. 300 bass boats filled with 50 gallons of gasoline, going 70 mph , does not fit their deep state game plan ! There is no other way to stop bass tournaments except ruining the “ROOT CAUSE” of the enjoyment !!! That “ROOT CAUSE” is the mystery of the cast . They took it away . Randy they are smart , they plan , and bass tournaments simply do not fit any puzzle piece in their game plan for the future . Maybe the pyramid next to bass pro shops in Springfield isn’t enough of a symbol ? I think it’s time we all wake up and hope Trump can change the coarse !
Not a cheater box not cheating in anyway. Just because you have ffs doesn’t mean the fish is going to bite and your going to catch it. It in no way unfair when everybody can go buy it. If you don’t have the money work harder.
It doesn’t have anything to do with not having the money to buy a stupid transducer it has everything to do with the meaning of Bass Fishing. It is not Bass Fishing. Clearly you never grew up fishing, bass ponds, or fishing from the bank on a lake and figuring out the bite And how the fish were staging on structure or else you would understand what he is talking about putting a fucking electronic down in the water to tell you where to cast and where the fish are at is not real Bass Fishing that is exactly what he was saying in the video how 25% of the people out there don’t understand this you clearly are one of those people. It is destroying the sport and turning it into a fucking Nintendo game it’s BS
No it doesn't mean the fish are necessarily going to bite but it does increase the odds exponentially when you know the exact location of the fish. The fact that the "pros" like Randy have always been hesitant to share is that in the game of fishing about 80% of catching the fish is finding the fish. The "pros" have always focused on the secret lure or technique because they can sell you lure while they can't sale you the knowledge they developed through years of trail and error. Now you can circumvent those years of experience with this device. To them it is like having to look at your girlfriend in a dirty movie. In my opinion it is cheating as the virtue of sportsmanship is purely defined.
@@lanceh.5671nobody before ffs was able to actively pursue pelagic bass which is what ffs allows anglers to do. If anything youtube is what really ruined the secret to finding fish. In all honesty I believe the MLF format is the best. Have anglers be good at both open water fishing and old school cover and high percentage fishing aswell.
@@lanceh.5671 so now everyone can fish with the “pros” just takes the title away from the clowns with sponsors. Now anybody can go and compete and that hurts the feelings of all the “pros”.
We love ffs and fuzzy dice cause we want to sharp and cutting edge its a new day in bass fishing randdle FFS CATCHES WINS IT ALL LOOK AT ALL THE BEST UA-camRS INFLUENCERS there scopers
Exactly it makes anyone a so-called person who can catch fish. Fish are not hard to catch. They're just hungry. It's nothing hard about catching a fish. What made fishing fishing was that you actually had to have some skill in your mind to know where to go. So yeah for a babies or anyone else who need help. You got crutches with livescope. There is a real idea that you want to have skill. And there should be a division. People who can only catch fish with electronics versus you know and let them have their handicap segments and then you have people who know what they're doing have a different segments. When the electronics are gone how many of these influencers will still catch fish? At the end of the day it's all legal and people can do what they want to do..... But I'm not impressed by anyone using the technology. I own it all, but there is nothing that impresses me with it. What impresses me is that old grandma that to go out there and I'll finish somebody with old skill and not spending anything more than $10 on a fishing pole. only thing this industry is capitalizing on now is that the perception that UA-cam and influencers and all these people have some type of real value. Their value is only to the company that they're doing the marketing for. Their value is to themselves for influencing you. That has nothing to do with real skill. It's just about sales. That's what it's always been about. So figure out where you stand, but you're in a conversation where this guy is actually going to compete with people who can really fish.
If you don’t like what Randy says on his channel quit watching it don’t troll and be a keyboard warrior behind a screen where nobody can confront you, if you get butt hurt about someone saying something bad about the cheat machine then you’re watching the wrong channel.Period
It goes beyond the sport of fishing or tournament fishing. It’s harming fish wildlife. Adds pressure to fish meant to have safe sanctuaries and probably harming fish ripped from deep water
Thats not fishing thats fish hunting. I worked hard for years to become a good fisherman these people want it handed to them. NOT FAIR CHASE thanks Randy
Aren’t fuzzy dice what you hang from your rear view mirror?
LIVESCOPE SUCKS & ALL BASS TOURNAMENTS SUCK!
Funny how some anglers seem to NOT talk about the effect that tournaments have on bass.
@richardbossman9875 Their DISTROYING The Fishing 🎣 that's what their doing!
FFS is hurting all species of fish, most young anglers have to use it to be competitive. Young kids with rich parents mainly. Otherwise they are totally lost.
I agree with you. We can call it bass catching with ffs, not fishing. Bass catching tournaments. How sad you're looking at a video screen all day. They have lost all their skill and cunning.
Ok !!!! If we're gonna bash something for the impact on fish population let state the obvious.
Fishing Ternaments are bigger than they ever been and every tournament just in my little area couple hundred fish relocated or killed every weekend of the world.
Even during spawning. Tournaments during this time do far more harm to fish population than FFs ever will. The fisherman I know including myself catch a big fish I might take a picture the put it right back where I caught it and yes I do use FFs it has helped me understand fish behavior better but it has never ever caught a fish for me. FFs never was there when I was figuring it out all by myself from age 10 and I'm now age 47.. I learned on my own the hard way. No sonar will catch a fish for u. I don't get the hatred about it.. anyone with FFs that never fished before!!! How will it help them catch the fish if they don't know the first thing about catching fish..
So put the blame where it belongs, TOURNAMENTS has the most blame for damage to fishery population . Now the 1% of people that seem to get the big o e to jump in the boat no matter where they are is a different story with FFs. If they put them right back after catching. Then no problem..
So !!!!! Why do you not call out all the Tournaments. Cause they do far more damage all by them selves without FFs.
Exactly!
Also if I may, I find it hilarious how he talks about how money corrupts? Riiiiight! Soooooo when the sponsors came to him with new boat, new motor, aaaaall the gear he could possibly imagine using , and hell even a new truck meanwhile the average Joe like myself has to fish with what I have, I’m sure he turned them all away to keep it equal.
After all, money corrupts😂😂😂
@@KennethMiller-tv7jp how have the people been winning the tournaments dir dir it's dominated by FFS!? YES Tournaments are drastically affecting the bass population an quality of the bass an all other fish that are kept for that matter buut the big bass that people are catchin to win wouldnt be chased down like dogs an up to 45% mortality rate without FFS!?WHATS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT🤦♂️
I fish the Alabama gulf coast and I don't even have a depth finder I'm looking into getting one to locate underwater structure but I catch plenty of fish in a tree hundred dollar kayak and wade fishing also and buy my own gear I wonder if he could catch fish like that without a hundred thousand dollar boat and electronics and graphs
You say the only reason these young ones are winning is cause of ffs
If you would talk to then they spend many many hours studying the lake with maps ,topo maps, finding the places that should hold fish and everything else
Just cause you don't understand it doesn't mean it's wrong
I love fuzzy dice. I fish from the bank, so certainly no electronics. I put them on a drop shot or wacky rigged. I even use a straight shank hook on your recommendation. They're expensive, so I get them on temu. Same thing. I heard Matt Stephan, and I think Ike as well talk about how they resemble food that the bass ate as babies. I use it the same way I would any other soft plastic.
As I recall, B.A.S.S. outlawed underwater TV long ago. Trolling is not allowed in bass tournaments. There is already precedent for banning technology and techniques.
Every ffs guy-" Just because the box finds the fish, doesnt mean they're gonna bite! You still have to CATCH them, and its really hard!🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
1st and foremost I would like to say I'm sorry I reckon I've left one or two rude comments on here about not keeping up with the young. As I see the effects of forward facing sonar I would like to say I'm 100% on your side it needs to be banned and we don't need fishing tournaments on public lakes if it is on public lakes it needs to be catch weight and released no Wayins. And no tournaments during the spawned thanks for keeping up the good fight I greatly appreciate it all you're doing for the sport and the fish
Spinner baits shouldn't cost 15 bucks. The prices of these simple baits have gotten out of control.
As a guy who loves to just walk the shoreline pitching worms and the occasional hula popper if conditions are right ( yes I'm that old, some people still use those, and yes they still work very well under the right conditions), I have to agree.
Using a better sonar than you would have found on a WW 2 submarine is not bass fishing.
I agree with you what I can foresee coming is thermal imaging in drones to spot fish on the flats fishing. I already see young guys on you tube using drones to spot fish on the flats !
Being anti-dice is wild. OSP is an awesome company.
I drop shot them without FFS as a Co and have a great time. Didn’t realize I was cheating 😂
I'm not ashamed at all. I fish every kind of lure including the OSP fuzzy dice. I don't give a damn what you think.
Well don’t watch his channel and quit trying to be a hard ass keyboard warrior
@Glock-1 so that's what you are trying to do to me, right. Don't tell me what I can do
@Glock-1 besides he can say what he wants and we have no opinion? Yeah it's his channel but youtube is a community that we all can use.
Your just a kid
@jamesoosterbaan556 thank you for the gotcha comment.
I totally agree 🎉
Livescope is amazing and FFS minnows are awesome and they catch big fish. Randy’s just mad because he can’t catch bass anymore.
Just a great segment Randy ! Truth, facts and passion ! Thanks Randy !
It's incredibly sad that people would rather gravitate towards what's new, flashy, and trendy rather than towards what is sustainable. Advanced technology in fishing is simply not sustainable. Our fisheries has declined for decades and will continue to do so until we take a stand.
Randy,
Some of us don't care at all about the history of bass fishing! You are stuck in nostalgia, dude.
The cheater box gives me advantages I have been dreaming about for 50 years.
Something else for you to CRY about, people should be able to fish any way they want as long as there not breaking any local fish and Game Laws, Man give it a Break, first time in a long time I checked in on your Videos, Nothing has Changed.
And Randy can make any video he wants it’s his channel. You sound like a hypocrite crying about Randy
Watch another channel if you’re butt hurt bro! Quit trolling and get out of your moms basement
If I don't fish tournaments or keep any fish, I don't understand why some people are so negative about how I fish with my FFS? Maybe I do suck and it makes fishing more enjoyable for me for the one day after working all week and doing house/yard work.
I use both without live scope 🤷
What does the dice lure have to do with FFS?
I watched "The Cast" "White River" and I wonder what you think Forrest Wood using fiberglass to make bass boats with raised decks was if not technology? Was the invention of the trolling motor not technology? Is the very thing that feeds your family today (UA-cam) not technology? I know you don't really believe yourself dude, you are intelligent. Whatever drives the algorithm I guess. That's why you sir should be ashamed! Happy Inauguration day!😂😂45,47!!
I started using livescope back in 2018. And I was always a person who thought the fish finder was good enough to tell you the death, the structure, and the water temperature. And that's how I used it. I purchased the livescope mainly because I just bought a new boat and it was time to put everything on it for you too. And am I very beginning videos I said that this is cheating. It was not as fun to catch fish on it because it took away mystery and just overall accomplishment thereafter. Was it cool to see fish and see how they react to your lures and things like that, absolutely.
I always told my viewers that you know it was something that was cool to see and learn how fish react to your lures, but after that I always fish with it off.
I sold the bree-z box around the world to network Garmin fish finders and I definitely appreciate all of the cells. But I don't use livescope the majority of the time I fish. I have fished bass tournaments and probably why I lost, but I didn't use it. I like the way that I grew up fishing of learning the structure and and just testing things out.
The term video game fishing has been around well before livescope. Even with my Garmin echo that I have with a 4-in screen, it had a a scope. A scope allow you to vertical jig and things like that where you saw live interaction of your lure going up and down and fish interacting with it. So I will be in my kayak and I was using that in 2014. Now that's no different than what a flasher would do in a ice fisherman would do. And a lot of people don't even know how to use those old methods.
I really truly think that livescope should not have a place in all fishing tournaments. I think that there should be challenges and seasons where it's not allowed. I'm not going to just take it away because it's a process out there. The main reason the industry won't take it away is because they're all making so much money from sales and sponsorships.
I used to talk to a couple other tournament fisherman in Northern California and they're older too. But they really are from the old school mind that you can learn what the fish are doing by looking at the environment of that day. This technology is taking it away. Yeah older people don't want to learn new things. But as a technology person, I find myself going back to traditional methods in hunting, computing, learning to fix my own vehicles and things like that. There is a sporting advantage of a person who has Tru skillz and not just skills in using a computer, but using their hands and mind in the natural world. I think that was super easy when the system is down, what are you going to do
I'd be embarrassed to fish with a fuzzy dice lure.
Why? I've embarrased people by outfishing them with it. No livescope either. Bass have been proven to bite almost anything. If you fish pressure waters it gives the fish something new to look at. I've had days where I get onto a school of fish and they wouldn't touch the dice, only minnow plastics. I get hating FFS because that ruins the whole finding fish thing but why hate on a lure because its odd? If you banned FFS then those lures would just work like any dropshot baits.
@torment6369 I fish in the saltwater. Maybe some species would bite a dice lure but most wouldn't I don't think. I'd get laughed at, and deserve it.
I'm a bank fisherman. I have no fancy screens to stare at. I catch my fish based on my skills. But I'm also one of don't give a crap if one decides to use ffs. To each their own.
Great Video. You are Right. Big Ego fishing SUCKS.
They’ve got those glass for golf. Shows you the breaks in contour on the putting green
So many good comparisons to be made in sports with technology being banned as an unfair advantage. Glasses that make the baseball look slower is not one of them😂
What the hell does the fuzzy dice suppose to represent bait wise?
Nothing because thats not important. Its just another fun bait that gives the fish something new to look at. Ban ffs and it becomes just like any other type of plastic. Wait a couple of years until fish get used to it then its no different, just look at the whopper plopper results when it hit the market vs now. That bait still get bit but it isn't nearly as effective as before.
Would it be ok to use those baits if you don’t have FFS? I don’t, but I’m sort of curious about trying the dice some time. BTW… you can make your own dice with chunks cut from a stick bait and threading silicone strands that may have come off an old jig through the chunk using a needle.
Actually it "doesn't need to be said ..." your constant "my way or the high way" is why most just consider your opinions "fringe". I guess I missed the day you were put in charge of all bass fishing on the planet and became Bass Fishing Supreme Leader and therefore get to decide what is the only correct way to bass fish ... luckily I rarely if ever concern myself with what others think about how I choose to live my life so I never have to worry about being "ashamed " of how I fish. What I would be ashamed of is if I displayed the kind of attitude you do to anyone who doesn't think exactly like you. Of course there's a lot of "do as I say not as I do" like when the NPFL banned FFS yet you continue to fish tournaments that allow it and then complain every chance you get how unfair it is ... priceless 👽🦖
Ditto. Well said.
He can’t make a living fishing, so clickbait FFS rants are all he has left.
@ what do think will happen if FFS actually gets banned ( not gonna happen) from BASS and MLF? He won't have anything to complain about ... 🥸
Randy hasn’t been relevant in 20 years in bass fishing!
One thing he is good at is clickbaiting!!
Sad, that is all he has left!!!!
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I'm guilty of buying the cheaper Yum ff sonar minnow but I don't have ff sonar. It was cheap costing $4 bux and looks like a nice straight tail trailer for a chatterbait or a spinnerbait. The houdini shad color looks awesome.
If they sold new flashers these days I would use them on my boat. Both of my flashers are broken and I have to use 2D sonar units. 30 years ago you could send your flasher to Lawrence and they would repair it for free but now they have no interest in repairing older sonar units.
All Sonar units have a flasher feature.
Not hating however the osp dice was never made for ffs it clearly works for sure though
They have glasses that slow it down. Didn't you watch The Matrix?
Randy, I like fuzzy dice and tungsten minnows because neither are made from toxic Lead like your jigs. Ever watch the 2009 documentary on Tar Creek? It details the history of what was at one time the worst environmental disaster in the United States, owing to Toxic Lead mining, just upstream from your beloved Grand Lake. There’s 30,000,000 tons of Toxic Lead chat there. Where is your Lead mined?
The 25% Randy refers to are FFS diehards because they want to catch the BIG fish. They don’t want to waste their time catching small fish. There is only 1 thing that will change the Tournaments allowing FFS. The anglers are going to have to boycott the tournaments. Problem is we all know that won’t happen. There are plenty of young guns who will take those anglers place in the tournaments. This again show why professional bass anglers MUST have other streams of income so they can boycott the tournaments and the electronic companies. It’s not going to happen overnight but it’s looking like there is no other way to get FFS banned from tournaments.
Lol replacement "young guns" bahaha
Your right. If you ever listen to the guys that use it talk about going out in the tournaments. They truly don't want to have to ho out and find them. They rely on the technology to show them were they all are..wtf right.
@@robertdtimmerman 😂🤣No it's up to respectable authority folk at the top to understand what is honorable and ban trouble making. You did say ho out and honorable wise leave it though so....
So now you say 25% of boats have FFS? In one of your last videos, the experts did a study and said 75% had it LOL. Yeah, I trust that study.
Ffs is not killing the sport its all the negativity and negative people. Everybody has to always give their opinion and their 2 cents these days. Fishing is supposed to be fun and something you enjoy so why are all these anti ffs and even the ffs guys always complaining and getting at eachothers tails and killing the enjoyment and fun for themselves. How abt instead of making negative videos all the time and saying that the sport is gone, you make a positive video trying to actually help the sport and make people want to go fish and not associate it with negativity.
FFS is absolutely hurting the fish population. Studies have proven it.
Yea it is literally helping tournament anglers catch these big good genetic female bass an bass In general an with up to 45 % mortality rate theyre killin the reproduction of good fish that they wouldn't be able to catch without ffs let alone the baro trauma of these giant bass bein brought up out deep water too fast mostly caught with ffs an post catch mortality from it ffs is not fishing its spotlighting for bass an chasein them down like dogs
Why don’t you watch another channel instead of trolling this one making stupid comments, if you don’t like it watch something else.
@ we are all entitled to our own opinions and conclusions about this i personally havent seen any studies or seen in person an increase in mortality from it as long as you properly care for the fish, what i have seen high mortality rates from is water temps. high water temps=high mortality rate from what i have seen so maybe we should ban summer time tournaments if we are worried abt mortality rates. Also if we are worried abt future fish populations and the big good genetic females there should not be tournaments during bedding season, those 2 things combined probably do way more damage to fisheries than ffs.
@@Glock-1 im not trolling i made a valid point in a nice way, there is so much negativity these days in the sport ie. ur comment proving my point. If i was trolling i would have trashed randy but i didnt because i respect him he has great tip videos and stuff like that but everything has just been so negative.
I agree! Fuzzy Dice 😅! Stirring the pot!
Toxic Trinkets - I would definitely be embarrassed masquerading as an environmentalist while promoting a line of toxic Lead lures like you do. When’s your non-toxic prototype going to be unveiled?
Nonsense
I caught a bass on a doodle topwater 😂
With all due respect Randy your best moments are when you are sharing your knowledge on techniques and modifications i dont know if you have ever used ffs sorry cheater box and you cant get the hang of it or that it makes you so good that every cast puts a fish in the boat i know most of your friends use it fish the moment mat steffon and others i think there is alot of guys with the cheater box may be helping little but not loading the boat everytime they go out there is plenty of other things that have been just as damaging to the sport you have been apart of for years i am talking about thousands of tournaments held over the spawn in the heat of summer halling bass all day in your live well there are plenty of studies showing the damage this causes latest state of Alabama i dont hear you speak about that as much as the cheater box it seems as that consumes your every thought yes i have a cheater box but i am not super tech guy and ware i see helps me the most is using it with mapping to see cover in real time yes there are guys that are crazy good with it and it took a lot of time on the water to get there most are the tournament guys that brings us back to tournaments over the spawn the heat and slamming around i your live well all day with a mortality rate at 45 persent i respect your thoughts but the ffs cheater box just dont feel like the biggest problem to address i love the sport the outdoors i know you do as well and maybe my opinion is because i dont live in your part of the country and i am not seeing the affects you are as always thanks for the video
Please use punctuation.
If you understand why a bass would eat/bite the dice, you also understand that it's an insult to the fish and the sport of fishing. It's just making a joke of bass curiosity. Real fishermen rely on the predator behavior of the fish as part of the challenge of fishing.
I agree Randy. They need to make forward facing sonar illegal to fish with altogether, even non tournament angling....Period! Technology needs to stop here with our lakes and rivers now before it gets worse! It will lead to very bad outcomes in the future. Anyone with common sense should recognize this fact.
Too many people greedily focused on what they can get out of life now without any careful thought of the future. Yes, it's also money and greed and power.
I think he wants everyone to have a chance to win
FFS should be outlawed and so should professional bass fishing.
Talking about money, how many fisherman would fish tournaments if they did not have a chance to make money
In other words, it’s all about money even to the professional fisherman
Mmmm if it works it works im 57 and seek some really weird chit some worked some didnt and i get the cheater box and agree with you
I wpuld love for them to not be able to use it and see how the tournament goes!!!
Well Randy your point here is getting closer,
Again for the 20th time …..
300 bass boats filled with 50 gallons of gasoline, going 70 mph , does not fit their deep state game plan !
There is no other way to stop bass tournaments except ruining the “ROOT CAUSE” of the enjoyment !!!
That “ROOT CAUSE” is the mystery of the cast . They took it away .
Randy they are smart , they plan , and bass tournaments simply do not fit any puzzle piece in their game plan for the future .
Maybe the pyramid next to bass pro shops in Springfield isn’t enough of a symbol ?
I think it’s time we all wake up and hope Trump can change the coarse !
He's a guy with an opinion that does make a good point hes a purist your not
It's poaching...period.
Not a cheater box not cheating in anyway. Just because you have ffs doesn’t mean the fish is going to bite and your going to catch it. It in no way unfair when everybody can go buy it. If you don’t have the money work harder.
It doesn’t have anything to do with not having the money to buy a stupid transducer it has everything to do with the meaning of Bass Fishing. It is not Bass Fishing. Clearly you never grew up fishing, bass ponds, or fishing from the bank on a lake and figuring out the bite And how the fish were staging on structure or else you would understand what he is talking about putting a fucking electronic down in the water to tell you where to cast and where the fish are at is not real Bass Fishing that is exactly what he was saying in the video how 25% of the people out there don’t understand this you clearly are one of those people. It is destroying the sport and turning it into a fucking Nintendo game it’s BS
Cope. Your fishing equivalent of adult security blanket will be banned by any respectable tournament circuit.
No it doesn't mean the fish are necessarily going to bite but it does increase the odds exponentially when you know the exact location of the fish. The fact that the "pros" like Randy have always been hesitant to share is that in the game of fishing about 80% of catching the fish is finding the fish. The "pros" have always focused on the secret lure or technique because they can sell you lure while they can't sale you the knowledge they developed through years of trail and error. Now you can circumvent those years of experience with this device. To them it is like having to look at your girlfriend in a dirty movie. In my opinion it is cheating as the virtue of sportsmanship is purely defined.
@@lanceh.5671nobody before ffs was able to actively pursue pelagic bass which is what ffs allows anglers to do. If anything youtube is what really ruined the secret to finding fish. In all honesty I believe the MLF format is the best. Have anglers be good at both open water fishing and old school cover and high percentage fishing aswell.
@@lanceh.5671 so now everyone can fish with the “pros” just takes the title away from the clowns with sponsors. Now anybody can go and compete and that hurts the feelings of all the “pros”.
We love ffs and fuzzy dice cause we want to sharp and cutting edge its a new day in bass fishing randdle FFS CATCHES WINS IT ALL LOOK AT ALL THE BEST UA-camRS INFLUENCERS there scopers
Exactly it makes anyone a so-called person who can catch fish. Fish are not hard to catch. They're just hungry. It's nothing hard about catching a fish. What made fishing fishing was that you actually had to have some skill in your mind to know where to go. So yeah for a babies or anyone else who need help. You got crutches with livescope.
There is a real idea that you want to have skill. And there should be a division. People who can only catch fish with electronics versus you know and let them have their handicap segments and then you have people who know what they're doing have a different segments. When the electronics are gone how many of these influencers will still catch fish?
At the end of the day it's all legal and people can do what they want to do..... But I'm not impressed by anyone using the technology. I own it all, but there is nothing that impresses me with it. What impresses me is that old grandma that to go out there and I'll finish somebody with old skill and not spending anything more than $10 on a fishing pole. only thing this industry is capitalizing on now is that the perception that UA-cam and influencers and all these people have some type of real value. Their value is only to the company that they're doing the marketing for. Their value is to themselves for influencing you. That has nothing to do with real skill. It's just about sales. That's what it's always been about. So figure out where you stand, but you're in a conversation where this guy is actually going to compete with people who can really fish.
If you don’t like what Randy says on his channel quit watching it don’t troll and be a keyboard warrior behind a screen where nobody can confront you, if you get butt hurt about someone saying something bad about the cheat machine then you’re watching the wrong channel.Period
@@Glock-1 we all got opinions... even you
then dont use a boat